
The filmmaker formally known as Guillermo del Toro, now referred to ubiquitously as Guillermo "I'm making The Motherf****** 'Hobbit'" del Toro, appeared tonight at the Director's Guild of America in midtown Manhattan as part of The New Yorker Festival series of talks. During the conversation with
New Yorker staff writer Daniel Zalewski, the director of such modern genre masterpieces as
Pan's Labyrinth and the "Hellboy" series talked up some of his future projects, including the aforementioned two-film Tolkien adaptation as well as a new version of Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein."
Currently at the beginning of pre-production on
The Hobbit, del Toro discussed his process of gathering ideas, or "feeding his brain," in order to conceptualize his own vision of Middle Earth unique from where Peter Jackson went in his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy…
"I find you have to discipline yourself to write in the morning, and then watch and read in the afternoons stuff that seems relevant, even in a tangential way. For example, reading or watching World War I documentaries or books that I think inform 'The Hobbit,' strangely enough, because I believe it is a book born out of Tolkien's generation's experience with World War I and the disappointment of being in that field and seeing all those values kind of collapse. I think it's a turning point that you need to familiarize yourself with. I'm starting. Peter Jackson is such a fan of that historical moment and obsessive collector of World War I memorabilia, and he owns several genuine, life-size working reproductions of planes, tanks, cannons, ships! He has the perfect obsessive reproductions of uniforms of that time for armies of about 120 soldiers... each. I asked him which books he recommended… because I wouldn't be watching 'Krull' or 'The Dark Crystal,' I need to find my OWN way into the story. That's the same way I did 'Pan's Labyrinth' or 'Devil's Backbone,' by watching stuff you wouldn't think about.
"All my life I've been fascinated by dragons. I was born under the Chinese sign of The Dragon. All my life I'm collecting dragons. It's such a powerful symbol, and in the context of 'The Hobbit' it is used to cast its shadow through the entire narrative. Essentially, Smaug represents so many things: greed, pride… he's 'the Magnificent,' after all. The way his shadow is cast in the narrative you cannot then show it and have it be one thing, he has to be the embodiment of all those things. He's one of the few dragons that will have enormous scenes with lines. He has some of the most beautiful dialogues in those scenes! The design, I'm pretty sure that will be the last design we will sign off on, and the first design we have attempted. It is certainly a matter of turning every stone before figuring out what he looks like, because what he looks like will tell you what he is."
After he completes his work on the two "Hobbit" films in 2012, the prodigiously optimistic del Toro has a whole slew of projects to keep him occupied until 2017, including a new version of
Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, his long-delayed Lovecraft adaptation
At the Mountains of Madness, a just-announced trilogy of vampire novels (the first of which he claims is already written), and his own version of
Frankenstein.
Del Toro is an acknowledged fan of "Frankenstein." He has busts of Boris Karloff as the monster in his house. One of his biggest filmic influences, the 1973 Spanish film
The Spirit of the Beehive, revolves around a showing of the classic Universal
Frankenstein. He has raved about Bernie Wrightson's illustrated version and the original Frank Darabont script eventually filmed as
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein by Kenneth Branagh in '94 and all-but-disowned by Darabont. Del Toro's version, however, sounds decidedly different…
"I'm not doing 'Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.' I'm doing an adventure story that involves the creature. I cannot say much, but it's not the central creation story, I'm not worried about that. The fact is I've been dreaming of doing a 'Frankenstein' movie since I was a child. The one thing I can promise is, compared to Kenneth Branagh, I will not appear shirtless in the movie!"
When pressed by a fan during the Q & A regarding the Wargs' appearance in
The Hobbit, del Toro seemed like a child dying to spill the big secret he has but forcing himself to show restraint, joking that "Warner Brothers has a sniper right here in the theater."
"There will be different sensibilities involved in this movie than there were in the original trilogy. First of all, because we have the travelogues in 'The Hobbit' which goes to places and variations on races that were not addressed in the trilogy. My belief on the 'Wargs' issue is that the classical incarnation of the demonic wolf in Nordic mythology is not a hyena-shaped creature. It is a wolf. The archetype is a wolf, so we're going to go back to the slender, archetypical wolf that is, I think, the inspiration for Tolkien. Listen… if we were having a drink two years from now I would spill the beans, because I'm a pretty easy guy about spilling the beans, but I can't in this instance I can't because it's three years from now... believe me, I am jumping up-and-down inside this fat body!"
COMMENTS (101)
Wrong. One "Hobbit"-film, one "Bridging-the-gap-between-Hobbit-and-LOTR"-movie.
Which means: one movie based on Tolkien, one movie "inspired" by Tolkien.
Yoda, get a life! ;-) You're an epic fail as a jedi master. Actually, you're Sith. Went to Palpatine to murder him. Not the Jedi way, right? Even asked Kenobi to kill his former apprentice. You're just as bad as Palpatine. To put it in your words: "Strong the dark side is in the little green lightsaber-frog." :-D
but i am interested in his other projects though. I would really like to see his take on Frankenstein
Now regarding continuity in The Hobbit, I agree with Rana Singollo and they can stay true to the book without breaking the continuity with PJ's movies.
Nothing say in the movie trilogy that Trolls do not speak, they just don't speak much, or maybe with difficulties. You do not see the Moria Goblins speaking either but you guess that they do. You also see Gandalf whispering, or at least communicating with animals on more than one occasion. And for the spiders, they might not need to make them speak at all, just give them personalities. A good part of Wall-E did not have talking robots and yet you understood the communication.
As for the dancing Elves, it could simply depend on the dance. In the movies, they are portrayed as always wise, calm, almost non-emotional (almost as you would Star Trek vulcans) so I would not see them jumping around a fire, but I can see them dancing a waltz for example.
In any case, I have faith :-)
AHAHAHAHA! Yeah, right. Orcs were stunned when the elves waltzed towards on the battlefield.
HILARIOUS! You made my day.
Maybe give the elves a sort of "Bat Dance". "The Dark Knight" should have included the "Bat Dance", the movie would have been so much better with a dancing Batman.
Good idea: dancing elves in "The Hobbit". I'm sooooo looking forward to this.
Oh, Gandalf whispered to animals, right. But I can't remember them to answer. NOT A SINGLE TIME IN ALL THREE LOTR-MOVIES. NOT ONCE. But they sure did, yeah, mate. Definitely. Gandalf heard them clearly after he smoked too much longleaves tobacco.
Let's see what'll be worse: the next Indiana Jones movie ("Indiana Jones and the Riddle of George Lucas' Lost Marbles") or "The Hobbit". At least, Indy's horses don't talk back. ROFL.
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