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Guillermo del Toro on The Hobbit and Frankenstein

Source:Max Evry
October 6, 2008


The filmmaker formally known as Guillermo del Toro, now referred to ubiquitously as Guillermo "I'm making The Motherf****** 'Hobbit'" del Toro, appeared tonight at the Director's Guild of America in midtown Manhattan as part of The New Yorker Festival series of talks. During the conversation with New Yorker staff writer Daniel Zalewski, the director of such modern genre masterpieces as Pan's Labyrinth and the "Hellboy" series talked up some of his future projects, including the aforementioned two-film Tolkien adaptation as well as a new version of Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein."

Currently at the beginning of pre-production on The Hobbit, del Toro discussed his process of gathering ideas, or "feeding his brain," in order to conceptualize his own vision of Middle Earth unique from where Peter Jackson went in his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy…

"I find you have to discipline yourself to write in the morning, and then watch and read in the afternoons stuff that seems relevant, even in a tangential way. For example, reading or watching World War I documentaries or books that I think inform 'The Hobbit,' strangely enough, because I believe it is a book born out of Tolkien's generation's experience with World War I and the disappointment of being in that field and seeing all those values kind of collapse. I think it's a turning point that you need to familiarize yourself with. I'm starting. Peter Jackson is such a fan of that historical moment and obsessive collector of World War I memorabilia, and he owns several genuine, life-size working reproductions of planes, tanks, cannons, ships! He has the perfect obsessive reproductions of uniforms of that time for armies of about 120 soldiers... each. I asked him which books he recommended… because I wouldn't be watching 'Krull' or 'The Dark Crystal,' I need to find my OWN way into the story. That's the same way I did 'Pan's Labyrinth' or 'Devil's Backbone,' by watching stuff you wouldn't think about.

"All my life I've been fascinated by dragons. I was born under the Chinese sign of The Dragon. All my life I'm collecting dragons. It's such a powerful symbol, and in the context of 'The Hobbit' it is used to cast its shadow through the entire narrative. Essentially, Smaug represents so many things: greed, pride… he's 'the Magnificent,' after all. The way his shadow is cast in the narrative you cannot then show it and have it be one thing, he has to be the embodiment of all those things. He's one of the few dragons that will have enormous scenes with lines. He has some of the most beautiful dialogues in those scenes! The design, I'm pretty sure that will be the last design we will sign off on, and the first design we have attempted. It is certainly a matter of turning every stone before figuring out what he looks like, because what he looks like will tell you what he is."

After he completes his work on the two "Hobbit" films in 2012, the prodigiously optimistic del Toro has a whole slew of projects to keep him occupied until 2017, including a new version of Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, his long-delayed Lovecraft adaptation At the Mountains of Madness, a just-announced trilogy of vampire novels (the first of which he claims is already written), and his own version of Frankenstein.

Del Toro is an acknowledged fan of "Frankenstein." He has busts of Boris Karloff as the monster in his house. One of his biggest filmic influences, the 1973 Spanish film The Spirit of the Beehive, revolves around a showing of the classic Universal Frankenstein. He has raved about Bernie Wrightson's illustrated version and the original Frank Darabont script eventually filmed as Mary Shelley's Frankenstein by Kenneth Branagh in '94 and all-but-disowned by Darabont. Del Toro's version, however, sounds decidedly different…

"I'm not doing 'Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.' I'm doing an adventure story that involves the creature. I cannot say much, but it's not the central creation story, I'm not worried about that. The fact is I've been dreaming of doing a 'Frankenstein' movie since I was a child. The one thing I can promise is, compared to Kenneth Branagh, I will not appear shirtless in the movie!"

When pressed by a fan during the Q & A regarding the Wargs' appearance in The Hobbit, del Toro seemed like a child dying to spill the big secret he has but forcing himself to show restraint, joking that "Warner Brothers has a sniper right here in the theater."

"There will be different sensibilities involved in this movie than there were in the original trilogy. First of all, because we have the travelogues in 'The Hobbit' which goes to places and variations on races that were not addressed in the trilogy. My belief on the 'Wargs' issue is that the classical incarnation of the demonic wolf in Nordic mythology is not a hyena-shaped creature. It is a wolf. The archetype is a wolf, so we're going to go back to the slender, archetypical wolf that is, I think, the inspiration for Tolkien. Listen… if we were having a drink two years from now I would spill the beans, because I'm a pretty easy guy about spilling the beans, but I can't in this instance I can't because it's three years from now... believe me, I am jumping up-and-down inside this fat body!"

COMMENTS (101)

Posted by:
PC
October 5, 2008
Pierre Spengler and RatBastard, hell yeah he would rock Dr. Strange! Guillermo del Toro is one of the most original-minded directors of all time. When you watch his films you can really feel the honesty behind all of them. I ****in love this guy!
Posted by:
Rána Singollo
October 5, 2008
Daniel Faraday: You are right, I too am more than a little worried about the prospect of Del Toro attempting to transform Frankenstein as an "adventure story." Personally I was enamoured with Branaugh's interpretation (not searching for a rebuttal here, just saying), Mary Shelley is one of my favorite authors, but it seems Del Toro plans to turn more to the Boris Karloff Frankenstein than to the Mary Shelley source material. That is a comfort, as he will not only not be seeking to ruin that literature, but will not be touching on it. I think that he will be perfect for The Hobbit (anyone complaining about Del Toro's credentials need go back and watch everything in PJ's filmography, I'd take the director of Pan's Labyrinth and the Devil's Backbone over the director of Braindead and Meet the Feebles any day, and look at the masterpiece he created).

And I think that he will be even more perfect for anything Lovecraft (Hellboy one particularly made me think of Lovecraft's universe with the sequence presenting the destruction of the world at the hands of demonic and gargantuan tentacled beasts...).

Frankenstein was his childhood dream and will have much more to do with the monster movies the story has spawned than the literature that inspired it. I do wish that someone would approach some of Shelley's other works, particularly Mathilda, and The Mortal Immortal, neither are Del Toro films certainly, but I still would love to see them.
Posted by:
Rána Singollo
October 5, 2008
Melnutz, I really think Dr. Seuss was just having a bit of harmless fun. And now I away.
Posted by:
mujan
October 5, 2008
VIGGO is from denmark... snap xD
Posted by:
Karen
October 5, 2008
You are such a great writer! With your knowledge of filmmaking, you should be making more films of your own or someone should hire you to work on a film. You have natural instinct that comes out in your writing. You are cool. I enjoy your articles. Keep up the good work. I hope you get more popular! I am a fan of Max Evry for sure.
Posted by:
Max Evry
October 5, 2008
Thanks, Mom!
Posted by:
MATT COLE
October 5, 2008
How comforting to know that

a cinematic adventure such as this

awaits us in the future. Good luck G.
Posted by:
Todd
October 5, 2008
I'm so happy Guillermo will be doing "The Hobbit." Jackson ruined LOTR with his steaming pile of directoral story changes. Hopefully with Guillermo at the helm we won't find out that it was really Arwen that formed the expidition to get rid of Smaug instead of Gandalf.
Posted by:
capnricky
October 5, 2008
Faraday, 2 questions..
Are you my constant?
And where and when is the island from Lost?

Guillermo del Toro is a brilliant mind and his creativity mixed with Jackson's familiarity of that particular universe, despite the fact the movies take place in a different time and era, will make for a great two Hobbit films. Other than Jackson, del Toro would be the best possible other choice. I am counting down the years until this next part of the epic masterpiece is unveiled.
Posted by:
ico
October 6, 2008
I cant wait for all of his other movies. This is the first time i heard about him wanting to do a Jekyll and Hyde movie. I've been a fan of his for a long time, even before Pans Labyrinth. I've been waiting for him to do the Mountains of Madness for years and apparently so has he. The only problem is that i wanted to do a Frankenstein movie. I'm excited to see this, i have complete trust in him to make a great movie and have no doubts about it at all. The bottom line is that this is his movie now and i think he can do what ever he wants. Peter Jackson still has some connection to it and likes whats happening so far, so stop complaining.

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