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Guillermo del Toro on The Hobbit and Frankenstein

Source:Max Evry
October 6, 2008


The filmmaker formally known as Guillermo del Toro, now referred to ubiquitously as Guillermo "I'm making The Motherf****** 'Hobbit'" del Toro, appeared tonight at the Director's Guild of America in midtown Manhattan as part of The New Yorker Festival series of talks. During the conversation with New Yorker staff writer Daniel Zalewski, the director of such modern genre masterpieces as Pan's Labyrinth and the "Hellboy" series talked up some of his future projects, including the aforementioned two-film Tolkien adaptation as well as a new version of Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein."

Currently at the beginning of pre-production on The Hobbit, del Toro discussed his process of gathering ideas, or "feeding his brain," in order to conceptualize his own vision of Middle Earth unique from where Peter Jackson went in his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy…

"I find you have to discipline yourself to write in the morning, and then watch and read in the afternoons stuff that seems relevant, even in a tangential way. For example, reading or watching World War I documentaries or books that I think inform 'The Hobbit,' strangely enough, because I believe it is a book born out of Tolkien's generation's experience with World War I and the disappointment of being in that field and seeing all those values kind of collapse. I think it's a turning point that you need to familiarize yourself with. I'm starting. Peter Jackson is such a fan of that historical moment and obsessive collector of World War I memorabilia, and he owns several genuine, life-size working reproductions of planes, tanks, cannons, ships! He has the perfect obsessive reproductions of uniforms of that time for armies of about 120 soldiers... each. I asked him which books he recommended… because I wouldn't be watching 'Krull' or 'The Dark Crystal,' I need to find my OWN way into the story. That's the same way I did 'Pan's Labyrinth' or 'Devil's Backbone,' by watching stuff you wouldn't think about.

"All my life I've been fascinated by dragons. I was born under the Chinese sign of The Dragon. All my life I'm collecting dragons. It's such a powerful symbol, and in the context of 'The Hobbit' it is used to cast its shadow through the entire narrative. Essentially, Smaug represents so many things: greed, pride… he's 'the Magnificent,' after all. The way his shadow is cast in the narrative you cannot then show it and have it be one thing, he has to be the embodiment of all those things. He's one of the few dragons that will have enormous scenes with lines. He has some of the most beautiful dialogues in those scenes! The design, I'm pretty sure that will be the last design we will sign off on, and the first design we have attempted. It is certainly a matter of turning every stone before figuring out what he looks like, because what he looks like will tell you what he is."

After he completes his work on the two "Hobbit" films in 2012, the prodigiously optimistic del Toro has a whole slew of projects to keep him occupied until 2017, including a new version of Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, his long-delayed Lovecraft adaptation At the Mountains of Madness, a just-announced trilogy of vampire novels (the first of which he claims is already written), and his own version of Frankenstein.

Del Toro is an acknowledged fan of "Frankenstein." He has busts of Boris Karloff as the monster in his house. One of his biggest filmic influences, the 1973 Spanish film The Spirit of the Beehive, revolves around a showing of the classic Universal Frankenstein. He has raved about Bernie Wrightson's illustrated version and the original Frank Darabont script eventually filmed as Mary Shelley's Frankenstein by Kenneth Branagh in '94 and all-but-disowned by Darabont. Del Toro's version, however, sounds decidedly different…

"I'm not doing 'Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.' I'm doing an adventure story that involves the creature. I cannot say much, but it's not the central creation story, I'm not worried about that. The fact is I've been dreaming of doing a 'Frankenstein' movie since I was a child. The one thing I can promise is, compared to Kenneth Branagh, I will not appear shirtless in the movie!"

When pressed by a fan during the Q & A regarding the Wargs' appearance in The Hobbit, del Toro seemed like a child dying to spill the big secret he has but forcing himself to show restraint, joking that "Warner Brothers has a sniper right here in the theater."

"There will be different sensibilities involved in this movie than there were in the original trilogy. First of all, because we have the travelogues in 'The Hobbit' which goes to places and variations on races that were not addressed in the trilogy. My belief on the 'Wargs' issue is that the classical incarnation of the demonic wolf in Nordic mythology is not a hyena-shaped creature. It is a wolf. The archetype is a wolf, so we're going to go back to the slender, archetypical wolf that is, I think, the inspiration for Tolkien. Listen… if we were having a drink two years from now I would spill the beans, because I'm a pretty easy guy about spilling the beans, but I can't in this instance I can't because it's three years from now... believe me, I am jumping up-and-down inside this fat body!"

COMMENTS (101)

Posted by:
Elliot Nelson
October 5, 2008
Yes!! I have always had the same idea of Wargs in my own mind - much more like a wolf than a hyena.
Posted by:
The Moviegoer
October 5, 2008
He's getting ready to turn once great movies into cheap pieces of crap.
Posted by:
Ahay
October 5, 2008
When I heard that pj wasn't director of the hobbit, I was totally turned off. I am not sure that i want to see it. Peter's imagination for Tolkiens materpiece. Del Toro's work is not very impressive, especially with Hellboy not as creative as it should have been. It was terrible actually... And even though they say they'll be keeping PJ's creativeness of middle earth, i hardly believe that another director is just going to roll over and let PJ tell him what the vision of the Hobbit should be. That sad thing is that The Hobbit was my favorite. It was fantastic, and when Lord of the Rings came out I was praying that Peter would get to direct the Hobbit as well. Hopefully, Del Toro listens to Peter and doesn't screw up the legacy.
Posted by:
vessel
October 5, 2008
JR, I'm totally with you on the HB2 thoughts. The humor didn't work at all: sometimes it felt like I was watching Men in Black 3. And good call on the Golden Army leaving the island (or not leaving). Plus, some of the creatures didn't feel Hellboy-esque :P, but more like taken out of "Pan's Labyrinth"

But "The Hobbit" should be good. There's enough room in the story for GDT to nuts with creatures and stuff without overshadowing the spirit of the original, wich I think was the main problem in HB2.
Posted by:
nees
October 5, 2008
hellboy ii was probably my favorite gdt movie, so i have no idea what any of you are talking about. i was so impressed with it. i especially loved how it wasn't a re-hash of the original, unlike most sequels.
as far as the accents go, i don't care if it's american or english, so long as it's better than elijah wood's.
Posted by:
IM THE JOKER!
October 5, 2008
Del Torro is the man!!! HE has such an imagination & he will succeed on every work he does!!:)
Posted by:
Big Show
October 5, 2008
Hellboy sucked. I fear for the Hobbit.
Posted by:
Melnutz from Sector 2814
October 5, 2008
In Regards to Dr. Seuss' Rant about me being a Frickle Fratz. Here's my Reply...Get outta your Mom's Basement and Try your Hardest to Get a Life. I know that would be Hard for you, since it seems like you Spend Half your Day reading Every Single Post on these Message Boards. And you happen to spend the other Half of your Day hoping to Meet a Single Chick on WOW named Ginger, just to find out that you've been Cybering with a 42 Year old Guy named George.

I still stand by what I said earlier. The Guy from the first Page said and I quote, "I hear Ron Pearlman will be doing the voice of Smaug. I hope he does a good English accent (English English, not American English)." The phrase, "I Hear". To me, sounds like a person trying to start or back up a Rumor. I wasn't trying to do that, I was just Guessing.
Posted by:
Daniel Faraday
October 5, 2008
I just hope that he doesn't ruin Shelley's materpiece, Frankenstein. It would suck for him to ruin that literature.
Posted by:
Alexander Quinn
October 5, 2008
Honestly, I just don't get it. All this hype for Toro, why? Pan's Labrynth and Hellboy 2 were visually stunning, but the experience stops there. Pan's story made next to no sense, and Hellboy 2 did nothing to advance the story or the mythology of the first movie. Blade 2? Crap. Worst movie of the series.
Now, he's gonna screw up the Hobbit. It'll be eye-candy, but hold you thanks for the special effects people, not this guy.

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