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Guillermo del Toro on The Hobbit and Frankenstein

Source:Max Evry
October 6, 2008


The filmmaker formally known as Guillermo del Toro, now referred to ubiquitously as Guillermo "I'm making The Motherf****** 'Hobbit'" del Toro, appeared tonight at the Director's Guild of America in midtown Manhattan as part of The New Yorker Festival series of talks. During the conversation with New Yorker staff writer Daniel Zalewski, the director of such modern genre masterpieces as Pan's Labyrinth and the "Hellboy" series talked up some of his future projects, including the aforementioned two-film Tolkien adaptation as well as a new version of Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein."

Currently at the beginning of pre-production on The Hobbit, del Toro discussed his process of gathering ideas, or "feeding his brain," in order to conceptualize his own vision of Middle Earth unique from where Peter Jackson went in his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy…

"I find you have to discipline yourself to write in the morning, and then watch and read in the afternoons stuff that seems relevant, even in a tangential way. For example, reading or watching World War I documentaries or books that I think inform 'The Hobbit,' strangely enough, because I believe it is a book born out of Tolkien's generation's experience with World War I and the disappointment of being in that field and seeing all those values kind of collapse. I think it's a turning point that you need to familiarize yourself with. I'm starting. Peter Jackson is such a fan of that historical moment and obsessive collector of World War I memorabilia, and he owns several genuine, life-size working reproductions of planes, tanks, cannons, ships! He has the perfect obsessive reproductions of uniforms of that time for armies of about 120 soldiers... each. I asked him which books he recommended… because I wouldn't be watching 'Krull' or 'The Dark Crystal,' I need to find my OWN way into the story. That's the same way I did 'Pan's Labyrinth' or 'Devil's Backbone,' by watching stuff you wouldn't think about.

"All my life I've been fascinated by dragons. I was born under the Chinese sign of The Dragon. All my life I'm collecting dragons. It's such a powerful symbol, and in the context of 'The Hobbit' it is used to cast its shadow through the entire narrative. Essentially, Smaug represents so many things: greed, pride… he's 'the Magnificent,' after all. The way his shadow is cast in the narrative you cannot then show it and have it be one thing, he has to be the embodiment of all those things. He's one of the few dragons that will have enormous scenes with lines. He has some of the most beautiful dialogues in those scenes! The design, I'm pretty sure that will be the last design we will sign off on, and the first design we have attempted. It is certainly a matter of turning every stone before figuring out what he looks like, because what he looks like will tell you what he is."

After he completes his work on the two "Hobbit" films in 2012, the prodigiously optimistic del Toro has a whole slew of projects to keep him occupied until 2017, including a new version of Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, his long-delayed Lovecraft adaptation At the Mountains of Madness, a just-announced trilogy of vampire novels (the first of which he claims is already written), and his own version of Frankenstein.

Del Toro is an acknowledged fan of "Frankenstein." He has busts of Boris Karloff as the monster in his house. One of his biggest filmic influences, the 1973 Spanish film The Spirit of the Beehive, revolves around a showing of the classic Universal Frankenstein. He has raved about Bernie Wrightson's illustrated version and the original Frank Darabont script eventually filmed as Mary Shelley's Frankenstein by Kenneth Branagh in '94 and all-but-disowned by Darabont. Del Toro's version, however, sounds decidedly different…

"I'm not doing 'Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.' I'm doing an adventure story that involves the creature. I cannot say much, but it's not the central creation story, I'm not worried about that. The fact is I've been dreaming of doing a 'Frankenstein' movie since I was a child. The one thing I can promise is, compared to Kenneth Branagh, I will not appear shirtless in the movie!"

When pressed by a fan during the Q & A regarding the Wargs' appearance in The Hobbit, del Toro seemed like a child dying to spill the big secret he has but forcing himself to show restraint, joking that "Warner Brothers has a sniper right here in the theater."

"There will be different sensibilities involved in this movie than there were in the original trilogy. First of all, because we have the travelogues in 'The Hobbit' which goes to places and variations on races that were not addressed in the trilogy. My belief on the 'Wargs' issue is that the classical incarnation of the demonic wolf in Nordic mythology is not a hyena-shaped creature. It is a wolf. The archetype is a wolf, so we're going to go back to the slender, archetypical wolf that is, I think, the inspiration for Tolkien. Listen… if we were having a drink two years from now I would spill the beans, because I'm a pretty easy guy about spilling the beans, but I can't in this instance I can't because it's three years from now... believe me, I am jumping up-and-down inside this fat body!"

COMMENTS (101)

Posted by:
Vote for Indy
October 5, 2008
OB Van I can agree with you I'm starting to feel like this won't be the same film we saw with LOTR I think it will be somthing totally different but with the same cast who can go wrong right right.......
Posted by:
O. B. van Ken O. B.
October 5, 2008
@Pecos Bill
You're right, they said that. Which makes it a bit awkward. On the one hand, they confirm the story about the dancing elves, talking animals, etc., and on the other hand they want it PG13. Quite a contradiction - if it's true to the novel, it doesn't have to be PG13. After all, it's a children's book. Do they want to add guts and bloods to dancing elves and babbling animals? Not a good idea.

But let's see the outcome. They definitely lost me in the Q&A when they answered my question about staying true to the novel. I would have preferred a different "Hobbit". A "Hobbit" like "The Lord of the Rings"-movies. But they don't want to d
Posted by:
O. B. van Ken O. B.
October 5, 2008
o it like this.

Damn. Accidentially clicke the "Submit Comments"-button. So, there's the rest of the sentence. :-)
Posted by:
RatBastard
October 5, 2008
I concur that he would be the man to do a Dr. Strange!
Posted by:
Beren
October 5, 2008
As far as I was aware they stated in that same Q&A that they would be keeping true to PJ's vision of middle-earth seen in the LotR trilogy whilst at the same time making some subtle changes. This was subsequently reinforced with the explanation that the middle-earth seen in the Hobbit is a very different place to the one seen almost sixty years later in the LotR trilogy.
Posted by:
nees
October 5, 2008
agent 47: i think you're making a pointless assumption. first of all, who really cares if people didn't know who del toro was before pan's labyrinth? that was the movie that made people notice him - there is *nothing* wrong with that. and second, don't you think that people probably like his other movies as well, to consider themselves fans? personally, i've loved del toro ever since i saw blade ii, and i've loved every single one of his movies that i've seen. i don't care if he makes the hobbit, or frankenstein, or whatever movie. as long as he keeps directing, i'll be happy.
and exactly what do you consider a hack? somebody who genuinely enjoys their work and puts themselves out there? i'm sort of confused with where you're coming from with that statement. i don't like peter jackson, but you don't see me calling him a hack. i mean, really, wtfayta.
Posted by:
AAy
October 5, 2008
I hear Ron Pearlman will be doing the voice of Smaug. I hope he does a good English accent (English English, not American English).

This isn't a dig at Americans but it would ruin it so much if Middle-Earth all of a sudden had American accents in it after it's been British through all of LOTR. Anyone agree?

(seriously, nothing against Americans here, just when it comes to accents in middle-earth) ;)
Posted by:
Leroy Brown
October 5, 2008
agent47:
Yeah right, he's a hack and you're a nobody. Before Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson was a name no one knew, but critics decried his vision and take on the Lord of the Rings, but man they were proved wrong.

Regarding accents, the main characters Bilbo Baggins spoke with a somewhat British accent while his boy-pal Samwise spoke with an Americanized accent but with a lilt of nobility.
Posted by:
AAy
October 5, 2008
Bilbo was played by Ian Holme, who is British so his accent wasn't "somewhat" British, it was completely British. Sam's accent was meant to be from an area of England known as "the west country" (where everyone seems to sound like ye olde farmers) and the actor (Sean Astin) sometimes let so of his own American accent accidentally slip through.

THAT i don't mind, as long as 95% of the time they can do a convincing English accent.
Posted by:
AAy
October 5, 2008
Are you deaf? He's American in real life and he put on a great English accent! (Viggo)

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