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Guillermo del Toro on The Hobbit and Frankenstein

Source:Max Evry
October 6, 2008


The filmmaker formally known as Guillermo del Toro, now referred to ubiquitously as Guillermo "I'm making The Motherf****** 'Hobbit'" del Toro, appeared tonight at the Director's Guild of America in midtown Manhattan as part of The New Yorker Festival series of talks. During the conversation with New Yorker staff writer Daniel Zalewski, the director of such modern genre masterpieces as Pan's Labyrinth and the "Hellboy" series talked up some of his future projects, including the aforementioned two-film Tolkien adaptation as well as a new version of Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein."

Currently at the beginning of pre-production on The Hobbit, del Toro discussed his process of gathering ideas, or "feeding his brain," in order to conceptualize his own vision of Middle Earth unique from where Peter Jackson went in his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy…

"I find you have to discipline yourself to write in the morning, and then watch and read in the afternoons stuff that seems relevant, even in a tangential way. For example, reading or watching World War I documentaries or books that I think inform 'The Hobbit,' strangely enough, because I believe it is a book born out of Tolkien's generation's experience with World War I and the disappointment of being in that field and seeing all those values kind of collapse. I think it's a turning point that you need to familiarize yourself with. I'm starting. Peter Jackson is such a fan of that historical moment and obsessive collector of World War I memorabilia, and he owns several genuine, life-size working reproductions of planes, tanks, cannons, ships! He has the perfect obsessive reproductions of uniforms of that time for armies of about 120 soldiers... each. I asked him which books he recommended… because I wouldn't be watching 'Krull' or 'The Dark Crystal,' I need to find my OWN way into the story. That's the same way I did 'Pan's Labyrinth' or 'Devil's Backbone,' by watching stuff you wouldn't think about.

"All my life I've been fascinated by dragons. I was born under the Chinese sign of The Dragon. All my life I'm collecting dragons. It's such a powerful symbol, and in the context of 'The Hobbit' it is used to cast its shadow through the entire narrative. Essentially, Smaug represents so many things: greed, pride… he's 'the Magnificent,' after all. The way his shadow is cast in the narrative you cannot then show it and have it be one thing, he has to be the embodiment of all those things. He's one of the few dragons that will have enormous scenes with lines. He has some of the most beautiful dialogues in those scenes! The design, I'm pretty sure that will be the last design we will sign off on, and the first design we have attempted. It is certainly a matter of turning every stone before figuring out what he looks like, because what he looks like will tell you what he is."

After he completes his work on the two "Hobbit" films in 2012, the prodigiously optimistic del Toro has a whole slew of projects to keep him occupied until 2017, including a new version of Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, his long-delayed Lovecraft adaptation At the Mountains of Madness, a just-announced trilogy of vampire novels (the first of which he claims is already written), and his own version of Frankenstein.

Del Toro is an acknowledged fan of "Frankenstein." He has busts of Boris Karloff as the monster in his house. One of his biggest filmic influences, the 1973 Spanish film The Spirit of the Beehive, revolves around a showing of the classic Universal Frankenstein. He has raved about Bernie Wrightson's illustrated version and the original Frank Darabont script eventually filmed as Mary Shelley's Frankenstein by Kenneth Branagh in '94 and all-but-disowned by Darabont. Del Toro's version, however, sounds decidedly different…

"I'm not doing 'Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.' I'm doing an adventure story that involves the creature. I cannot say much, but it's not the central creation story, I'm not worried about that. The fact is I've been dreaming of doing a 'Frankenstein' movie since I was a child. The one thing I can promise is, compared to Kenneth Branagh, I will not appear shirtless in the movie!"

When pressed by a fan during the Q & A regarding the Wargs' appearance in The Hobbit, del Toro seemed like a child dying to spill the big secret he has but forcing himself to show restraint, joking that "Warner Brothers has a sniper right here in the theater."

"There will be different sensibilities involved in this movie than there were in the original trilogy. First of all, because we have the travelogues in 'The Hobbit' which goes to places and variations on races that were not addressed in the trilogy. My belief on the 'Wargs' issue is that the classical incarnation of the demonic wolf in Nordic mythology is not a hyena-shaped creature. It is a wolf. The archetype is a wolf, so we're going to go back to the slender, archetypical wolf that is, I think, the inspiration for Tolkien. Listen… if we were having a drink two years from now I would spill the beans, because I'm a pretty easy guy about spilling the beans, but I can't in this instance I can't because it's three years from now... believe me, I am jumping up-and-down inside this fat body!"

COMMENTS (102)

Posted by:
Aussie Critic
October 5, 2008
Im way more excited that he and PJ are working together to bring the Hobbit to life! Words of advice to Mr Guillermo del Toro; Don't F@#!k it up!
Posted by:
the_movie_guy
October 5, 2008
Guillermo del Toro is a f#@*%^! genius!

The Hobbit will be a MASTERPIECE.

Pan's Labyrinth
Blade 2
Hellboy 2
Devil's Backbone

All brilliant IMHO.
Posted by:
Darum
October 5, 2008
I like del toros work but I dont know where he went wrong with Hellboy I bc that didn't even seem like he put effort into creating that. 2 was better but still not that good. Pans Labyrinth and Blade 2 are very well done though. I think the Hobbit will be great.
Posted by:
O. B. van Ken O. B.
October 5, 2008
I like del Toro and his work, but I'm afraid "The Hobbit" won't be made for me.

I love "The Lord of the Rings"-books and -movies, but "The Hobbit" was a children's book. And it'll be a children's movie - Jackson and del Toro already said that themselves in their online discussion with fans a couple of months ago. Do you remember? Singing and dancing elves, rhyming trolls, talking animals, and so on. Great for children, but definitely not what "The Lord of the Rings"-fans expect. Nevertheless, it's close to the book. So, even if I don't like this approach, it's definitely true to Tolkien's book.

del Toro sounds a bit overexcited. Soooo many projects, and he's only for the really big ones: Frankenstein, Cthulu, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde... Cool down, Mr. del Toro. One movie after the other. Don't break your own magic. I'm afraid you could burn out, so breeeeathe, concentrate, my dear Padawan. ;-)
Posted by:
Agent 47
October 5, 2008
why does everyone like him? seriously, he is over ****ing rated and the only reason people like him because they are jumping on the band wagon of Pans Labrynth, he's a hack, he is going to destroy Frankenstein, my god make this poor excuse for a film maker stop, $20 says he give Frankenstein's monster 12 eyes...
Posted by:
Dr. Doc
October 5, 2008
Del Toro doing Frankenstein would be epic !!!

i want it now though !!! not when im 30 !!!
Posted by:
Michael
October 5, 2008
I sure hope Del Toro doesn't go all "Pan's Labyrinth" on The Hobbit. As a huge HUGE fan of Jackson's Lord of The Rings Trilogy, all I want to see is the exact same style film. Del Toro can direct if Jackson won't, but please please do I say to him, don't get all weird with it and ruin such a great thing that was created with LOTR. While I've enjoyed Del Toro's films, I don't put them on anywhere near the level as LOTR. Be careful with this one Guillermo! I don't want to see another one of my favorite series screwed up like what I feel happened with Indiana Jones earlier this year. And that was with the same filmmakers!
Posted by:
Pierre Spengler
October 5, 2008
Marvel Comics SHOULD hire Del Toro to do a WICKED Dr. Strange for them!!! :D
Posted by:
Pecos Bill
October 5, 2008
@O. B. van Ken O. B.

Eh, in that very same Q&A, Del Toro *and* Peter Jackson confirmed that they'll be going for a "Hard PG-13" rating for The Hobbit. It'll be as much for adults as the LotR trilogy was, it definitely will not be aimed at little kids.
Posted by:
tb4000
October 5, 2008
I'll be honest, if they decide to remake Wizard of Oz, I'd be fine with him directing it.

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