View Full Version : David Lynch sucks
meatwadsprite3
08-15-2007, 09:43 AM
i watched mulholland drive , all it was was random incoherent scenes with no story and is played like a suspense movie - it's basicly one of the worst movies that could ever be made
i watched 20 minutes of blue velvet and 20 minutes of inland empire and both of them were just like mulholland drive , how does this guy continue to make these horrible movies ?
Dracula
08-15-2007, 10:07 AM
i watched mulholland drive , all it was was random incoherent scenes with no story and is played like a suspense movie - it's basicly one of the worst movies that could ever be made
i watched 20 minutes of blue velvet and 20 minutes of inland empire and both of them were just like mulholland drive , how does this guy continue to make these horrible movies ?
the guy's not my cup of tea either but I wouldn't say he sucks. His movies use what's called "Dream Logic". They're supposed to play out the way that someone would dream somthing, he does this by not being 100% surreal but instead presents somewhat logical things that really make no sence.
Blue Velvet however has a much more traditional narrative, I'm not sure you gave that one much of a chance. You may also want to try The Elephant Man.
HaDoKen
08-15-2007, 10:16 AM
i watched mulholland drive , all it was was random incoherent scenes with no story and is played like a suspense movie - it's basicly one of the worst movies that could ever be made
i watched 20 minutes of blue velvet and 20 minutes of inland empire and both of them were just like mulholland drive , how does this guy continue to make these horrible movies ?
I didnt like mulholland drive much but it did have that scene with the two hot ladies....as for Blue velvet I liked that alot...ever seen Twin Peaks....i never finished that series but it was very good...wouldnt say David Lynch sucks though...but with him its either you love his work or you dont
FranklinTard
08-15-2007, 11:58 AM
yea its more an acquired taste, my brother used to love him, so ive watched a couple of his movies and i appreciate the craziness/"dream logic" to a point.
Ramplate
08-15-2007, 12:02 PM
Oh yeah, The Elephant Man is a good one
kel thuzad
08-15-2007, 01:49 PM
If you dont give give a crap about the dream thing, yet are willing to give him chance try Blue Velvet (I dont understand what was incoherent for you in that one), The Straight story, Wild at Heart, Elephant Man, or even Dune.
And i strongly disagree with 'no story - only dream logic' statement as theres a perfectly understandable body of story in both Mulholland Dr. and Lost Highway, although it takes a couple of viewings to work out most of the stuff. Havent seen Inland Empire yet and that sounds like it will be truly only 'random dream stuff whatever kinda maybe mostly put accidentally together stuff sort of';
Dracula
08-15-2007, 01:57 PM
If you dont give give a crap about the dream thing, yet are willing to give him chance try Blue Velvet (I dont understand what was incoherent for you in that one), The Straight story, Wild at Heart, Elephant Man, or even Dune.
And i strongly disagree with 'no story - only dream logic' statement as theres a perfectly understandable body of story in both Mulholland Dr. and Lost Highway, although it takes a couple of viewings to work out most of the stuff. Havent seen Inland Empire yet and that sounds like it will be truly only 'random dream stuff whatever kinda maybe mostly put accidentally together stuff sort of';
I'm going to disagree with you about Wild at Heart, that thing was just... uhhh
Some of his movies work better for different people just based on their mentalitys. Eraserhead works for me but Mulholland Dr. doesn't, go figure
Andrey83
08-15-2007, 01:59 PM
His style is mostly in his directing, so you should see more before saying "he sucks".
Granted i love his movies, but they are kinda love or hate. Try out Twin Peaks (TV series). Probably the best character drama ever made.
If you dont like confusing movies then dont see Lost Highway (which is a master piece imo).
kel thuzad
08-15-2007, 02:08 PM
If you dont like confusing movies then dont see Lost Highway (which is a master piece imo).
Hell yeah! I think its his best work to date.
Ewok Droppings
08-15-2007, 02:37 PM
Why does meatwad always start new threads instead of just adding his own thoughts to existing ones?
sshuttari
08-15-2007, 02:58 PM
I don't like alot of his movies either, There just not entertaining nor intruging enough for me.
Ramplate
08-15-2007, 05:15 PM
Why does meatwad always start new threads instead of just adding his own thoughts to existing ones?
Have you ever seen Aquateen Hunger force? :D
DeadFlagBlues
08-15-2007, 06:13 PM
I'd have to disagree here. David Lynch certainly does not suck. Anyone who complains about the films having "no plot and completely incoherent" is viewing his films in the wrong mindset. These same individuals always want too much plot. Something Lynch never bogs his films down with.
Yes, the films do contain what is called "dream-logic". I'd mostly agree with Dracula here. He makes films for himself. He does have a very devoted cult following. I, personally, like Lynch's films quite a bit. It seems you hardly gave his films even a chance.
First off, Blue Velvet is absolutely nothing like Mulholland Drive. Mulholland Drive is closer to Inland Empire. Blue Velvet is mostly a very linear story. If you are going to view his films has having concrete meaning and plot, then expect to be disappointed (except for Dune, Elephant Man, Blue Velvet, and The Straight Story). View his films as a dream (or a nightmare) and give them a second chance -- you might be surprised. Interpret each segment as you will. You'll learn you'll have more fun with films that leave interpretation open.
Also, I'd like to add Lynch has done amazing camera work in Inland Empire. You might want to check out Twin Peaks as well. An amazing show.
splooie
01-08-2008, 10:12 AM
Let me start by saying that I have seen most of david lynch's movies.
I have a friend who is very much a fan of his and I generally agree with his taste in music, therefore I have given his movies a fair and honest chance. That being said...Whenever I ask my friend what any of Lynch's movies are about, I get a nonsense answer about how its complicated and symbolism...blah blah blah.
Now, I know I'm gonna get attacked by all the die hard Lynch fans and frankly, I don't care...His movies are artistic and whatnot, but extremely boring and really dont have much of a point.
I challenge anyone to describe the plot of lost highway, or of eraserhead.
There isnt really a plot to these movies.
now I know some people say "its like a painting", or "like a dream"
which is great. I have literally fallen asleep through every Lynch movie I have ever seen.
Its not like I'm "not understanding it", or I'm "not giving it a chance".
I get it, he makes it surreal and uses symbols to explain things...but its boring and really has a hard time captivating most people.
Which is fine, I just hate how all his fans act as if they're special because "they get it"
get over yourselves
If you can't understand how most people could not like his movies...youre deranged.
Ashift30
01-08-2008, 12:57 PM
I am not a fan of Lynch, but he had the balls to take Godfather II. Many passed on the notion of that task. Hardest act in the world would be to follow one of the best movies of all time and try to walk in its shoes.
Requiem for a dream - nonsense.
Hot Fuzz - guilty pleasure
American Psycho - great scenes in it.
The rest - take'em or leave'em doesn't matter.
TheKing88
01-08-2008, 10:18 PM
At least finish Blue Velvet, then try Elephant Man, which is still my favorite Lynch film.
Dracula
01-08-2008, 10:33 PM
I am not a fan of Lynch, but he had the balls to take Godfather II. Many passed on the notion of that task. Hardest act in the world would be to follow one of the best movies of all time and try to walk in its shoes.
Requiem for a dream - nonsense.
Hot Fuzz - guilty pleasure
American Psycho - great scenes in it.
The rest - take'em or leave'em doesn't matter.
wtf
saveus1011
01-08-2008, 10:41 PM
Yeah, no...just no.
Lynch is great, and yes he's certainly an acquired tasted but you can't make a ridiculous claim like this when the man has made films that are hearlded as the best of the best. Yes, I do agree his stuff takes a moment or two to warm up to but once you do, it's a thrill ride.
Saying David Lynch sucks is like saying Brett Ratner is the end all be all of film.
JBond
01-08-2008, 11:18 PM
wtf
So it's not just me?
sshuttari
01-08-2008, 11:30 PM
I am not a fan of Lynch, but he had the balls to take Godfather II. Many passed on the notion of that task. Hardest act in the world would be to follow one of the best movies of all time and try to walk in its shoes.
Requiem for a dream - nonsense.
Hot Fuzz - guilty pleasure
American Psycho - great scenes in it.
The rest - take'em or leave'em doesn't matter.
dude wtf are you talking about I wasn't even going to reply to this thread but Lynch did not make Godfather II and why the hell are you bring in American Psycho and all the other movies you mentioned into the mix?
Did you mix threads or something if not let me know what drugs your taking and how I can get a hold of em ;)
SnoBorderZero
01-08-2008, 11:49 PM
First off, Mulholland Drive, while not great, does have a very complex story, it just takes time to understand so I can understand why people on here who hand out perfect scores to movies like it's hot wouldn't have the intellect to take the time to think about what they just saw.
And wtf....
Ashift30
01-09-2008, 12:12 AM
wtf
I am not a Lynch fan at all.
I read Meatwads' opening post with his recently watched movies and goofed around.
I just want to see if anybody actually reads some of the insanity that gets posted on CS.
Did I already say that I am not a Lynch fan?
Thanks for noticing! :)
FranklinTard
01-09-2008, 12:35 AM
I am not a Lynch fan at all.
I read Meatwads' opening post with his recently watched movies and goofed around.
I just want to see if anybody actually reads some of the insanity that gets posted on CS.
Did I already say that I am not a Lynch fan?
Thanks for noticing! :)
ahem....
wtf
rosncranz
01-09-2008, 12:39 AM
I don't think he sucks, but I don't much care for him. I thought Mullholand Drive was pretty good though.
If you like his films, then fine, but don't try to make it like his movies are just SO complex and blah blah, admit most of his movies are intentionally nonsensical, which is fine, but don't act like you are not smart if you don't like his films.
lennyd44
01-09-2008, 08:30 AM
watch Eraserhead
SnoBorderZero
01-09-2008, 10:46 PM
I don't think he sucks, but I don't much care for him. I thought Mullholand Drive was pretty good though.
If you like his films, then fine, but don't try to make it like his movies are just SO complex and blah blah, admit most of his movies are intentionally nonsensical, which is fine, but don't act like you are not smart if you don't like his films.
I agree there, but I am knocking on people who hate his movies just because they ar the kind of moviegoers who want everything spoonfed to them. These are also those who rush to conclusions on Kubrick as well.
Ashift30
01-10-2008, 01:11 AM
He plays ordinary people blended in to extraordinary situations, Plausible ideals, most work on screen, some just get old to me. they seem repetitious at times.
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