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Doomsday
07-12-2007, 02:31 AM
When I say that this summer has flat out sucked in regards to movies? It's not that the movies themselves have completely sucked, it's just that everything is ending up being a disappointment, Transformers aside since I haven't seen it. But think about it, pretty much every single movie that has come out has been a huge disappointment in one way or another. Between the boring overlong Spider-Man to the confusing and shabby POTC to the flat out dull Shrek 3 to the unnecessary, egotistical Ocean's 13 to the PG-13 Die Hard (ok it was pretty good, just PG-13) to the retarded Fantastic Four, it seems like every movie that was supposed to make this a summer to end all summers has turned out to be a huge letdown. Granted, there are some like Knocked Up that have been nice surprises, but that still doesn't make up for the rest of the crap we've had to put up with. Am I the only one who feels especially hosed this summer?


Fingers crossed that Bourne Ultimatum can at least end it on a somewhat sweet note.

Knerys
07-12-2007, 02:51 AM
I will say it's a been a hyped up summer that hasn't quite live up to it.

Spiderman, disappointing.

Pirates, ambitious but confusing (though I enjoy many parts of it).

Shrek, didn't see it. And honestly didn't really care too...

Oceans 13, I liked but still like the first one better.

Transformers, was shallow but crazy fun.

Die Hard I really enjoyed but I have only very recently been introduced to John McLane so I'm not a long time fanboy.

So far the movies I got the most out of where smaller ones, Day Watch and Shark vs. Eagle. Loved them both.

Where's my elephant?
07-12-2007, 03:13 AM
I got to say that last Summer was disappointing. There were some movies (You Me and Dupree,Nacho Libre,POTC 2) that were hits but will we remember them in years to come?

Nah, didn't think so.

Drizzt240
07-12-2007, 03:17 AM
At least we still have Bratz to look forward to.

rosncranz
07-12-2007, 11:26 AM
I personally was not disappointed by any of the films I have seen this summer i.e. POTC, Spiderman 3 etc. not because they are great, but because I knew they would underwhelm.

I am hoping this is a sign of things to come- I hope that studios see these huge movies under perform and start hiring people to create original stuff due to hits like Once, and Knocked Up. I have a feeling this is the start of a trend, I am really hoping.

I have only seen like 3 or 4 movies on the theater this summer which is a sign of how bad movies are. I usually see a movie almost every weekend. So to summarize the movies the studios are cranking out have been getting worse and worse for awhile now and it is just now really starting to show.

Ramplate
07-12-2007, 11:46 AM
I liked both Spider-man and Fantastic Four - yeah I was a bit miffed that Spider-man was unnecessarily long but I still enjoyed most of it.
Ocean's 13 - it wasn't bad but not enough plot twists.

halo7
07-12-2007, 12:17 PM
I will say it's a been a hyped up summer that didn't quite live up to it.

Spiderman, disappointing.

Pirates, ambitious but confusing (though I enjoy many parts of it).

Shrek, didn't see it. And honestly didn't really care too...

Oceans 13, I liked but still like the first one better.

Transformers, was shallow but crazy fun.

Die Hard I really enjoyed but I have only very recently been introduced to John McLane so I'm not a long thing fanboy.

So far the movies I got the most out of where smaller ones, Day Watch and Shark vs. Eagle. Loved them both.

I agree with all of this except I havent seen the last two due to unavailability.

FranklinTard
07-12-2007, 12:25 PM
did someone call nacho librea and dupree a "hit"? impressive....

but yes, crap summer.

Tornado
07-12-2007, 12:28 PM
I'm actually on the opposite side of the fence on this one, as I tend to feel this was one of the best summers in quite a while.

Spider-Man 3 - Some parts were a bit ridiculous (the dancing), but I still enjoyed it.

Pirates 3 - About a half hour too long, but again, I enjoyed it.

Shrek 3 - Had no interest here.

Fantastic Four 2 - Better than the first, and I liked that one too. So maybe I'm not a good judge of value here.

Ocean's 13 - Much better than 12, but not quite as good as 11.

Die Hard - Awesome. I wish there had been more swearing and blood though.

Transformers - Awesome.

Harry Potter 5 - Probably the best movie I've seen yet this year.

And then there were a handful of lesser-known hits like Mr. Brooks and 1408.

Sora Kahn
07-12-2007, 12:47 PM
Spiderman 3- bashed for no reason sinse the same style of material is praised in a cheesy robot movie.

Pirates 3- Weird. Just weird.

Transformers- good material but far from being great.

Fantastic Four 2- has a problem attracting R rated people to the movie and it's bringing the film series down. Plus they keep making Doom act like Luthor.

Other problem is critics got dumber. Insanely dumb. So dumb we can actually have monkey's be critics nd they'd be smarter. SR rating and The Good Shepard rating proves it.

Dracula
07-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Spider-Man 3 - disapointment

28 Weeks Later… - great suprise

Pirates 3 - worst of the year

Shrek 3 - didn't see

Fantastic Four 2 - the first one sucked, didn't see 2nd

Knocked Up - easily the best movie of the summer

Ocean's 13 - best sequel of the summer, solid but unspectacular

1408 - great little suprise

Die Hard - sold out, I've been boycotting

Transformers - crap

Harry Potter 5 - didn't see 1-4 or read any of the books, won't see this.


The theme here is that everything that was good was a suprise and everything that was bad was a disapointment for the most part.

chewie
07-12-2007, 01:31 PM
I will agree that there was a lot of hype coming into the summer with all of the sequels. They didn't live up to the hype, but there has been/are some good films (Knocked Up, Die Hard, Transformers) that has salvaged this summer up to this point.

JBond
07-12-2007, 07:08 PM
There was Ratatouille, but I guess that's not a "summer movie" per se...

prizm
07-12-2007, 07:14 PM
well, considering the best movie this year was released in the spring (300).... and the second and third were transformers and die hard, with everything else pretty distant after that.....

the only thing i am really disappointed in was that most of the movies seem to be sequels, granted with characters i generally enjoy seeing, and stories I don't mind following along with, but it wouldn't kill the studios to release something original once in a while

i did have minor gripes with some of the movies, but i wouldnt say i was disappointed in them

Tolkien
07-12-2007, 07:15 PM
Harry Potter 5 - didn't see 1-4 or read any of the books, won't see this.

If you didn't see the first four, why bother mentioning you won't see this?

teewee1432
07-12-2007, 07:56 PM
I saw all the big summer movies and pretty much liked them all.

The Chris
07-12-2007, 08:28 PM
I've liked every thing I've seen so far, better than last year.

Knerys
07-12-2007, 08:31 PM
well, considering the best movie this year was released in the spring (300).... and the second and third were transformers and die hard, with everything else pretty distant after that.....


300 is still my top movie of the year. I doubt anyting will surpass that movie for me.

Tolkien
07-12-2007, 08:41 PM
AGREED! :D

Although Knocked Up caught me by surprise as well.

Sora Kahn
07-12-2007, 08:48 PM
Amazing. You guys liked 300? What happened to 'Oh! It has CGI backgrounds! Automatic suck!'?

You guys are very inconsistent.

Knerys
07-12-2007, 09:01 PM
Amazing. You guys liked 300? What happened to 'Oh! It has CGI backgrounds! Automatic suck!'?

You guys are very inconsistent.

First off, I never said that. Second, if it adds to the composition of the movie, like in 300, then go for it. The whole movie was susposed to look hyper-realistic and the cgi enhanced that.

Third, there was more to 300 than cgi backgrounds.

halo7
07-12-2007, 09:05 PM
First off, I never said that. Second, if it adds to the composition of the movie, like in 300, then go for it. The whole movie was susposed to look hyper-realistic and the cgi enhanced that.

Third, there was more to 300 than cgi backgrounds.

See, Sora Kahn likes to think that everyone on the boards besides him is one giant creature. Amoeba like in its form its opinions constantly differ frightening and confusing his gentle nature.

JBond
07-12-2007, 09:11 PM
See, Sora Kahn likes to think that everyone on the boards besides him is one giant creature. Amoeba like in its form its opinions constantly differ frightening and confusing his gentle nature.

I was about to say somethign very similar. How odd to be refered to as "you guys" when there hundreds of us with entirely different interests. It's like those people who tell you youre going to get killed if you meet people from the internet. And it's humorously ironic that she is the one who doesn't change on this site and has become very predictable.

prizm
07-12-2007, 09:19 PM
First off, I never said that. Second, if it adds to the composition of the movie, like in 300, then go for it. The whole movie was susposed to look hyper-realistic and the cgi enhanced that.

Third, there was more to 300 than cgi backgrounds.


sora kahn is an idiot
i never said it either

Knerys
07-12-2007, 09:27 PM
Sorry. I'm not a fan of being trivialized. I tend to pounce when that happens.

Sora Kahn
07-12-2007, 09:38 PM
Sorry, I'm just amazed that 300 is so popular. Great movie. Just amazed that it didn't get bashed.

Knerys
07-12-2007, 09:40 PM
You obiviously didn't go visit the review thread heh.

judomaster
07-13-2007, 09:44 AM
the only one i saw was spider-man 3 ,after reading the ff rotss novel i lost most of my interest. i'l rent the dvd i satisfied my transformers interest by buying transformers the movie
i hope i'll have better luck next year

Tolkien
07-13-2007, 10:05 AM
Amazing. You guys liked 300? What happened to 'Oh! It has CGI backgrounds! Automatic suck!'?

You guys are very inconsistent.

Keep your BS to yourself dude. Who said anything bad about the CGI backgrounds? It was supposed to look like that. It was how the comic looked. RICH IN COLORS AND CINEMATIC BEAUTY. That film was almost the very concept of perfection. Maybe you should go watch it again when it comes out on DVD to get the better picture. :rolleyes:

hammerhedd11
07-13-2007, 10:37 AM
Yeah, since when was having CGI backgrounds a bad thing? I think Sora Kahn likes to make crap up.

rosncranz
07-13-2007, 11:15 AM
That film was almost the very concept of perfection.

Really? Wow, that is a strong statement. I didn't care for the movie but I can see why people like it but "perfection" I mean it's your opinion and I am not saying it's wrong but that is just. perfection? Really?

iv3rdawG
07-13-2007, 11:21 AM
Just wondering, why was everyone surprised by Knocked Up? I mean Apatow did make The 40 Year Old Virgin and that was great. Did you expect his 2nd film to be a dud?

Dracula
07-13-2007, 12:18 PM
Just wondering, why was everyone surprised by Knocked Up? I mean Apatow did make The 40 Year Old Virgin and that was great. Did you expect his 2nd film to be a dud?

I think they just mean that it wasn't a hype-fest like Spider-Man 3

dead ducky
07-13-2007, 01:49 PM
When you compare it to summers past, I don't see as better or worse.

Sora Kahn
07-13-2007, 02:11 PM
Yeah, since when was having CGI backgrounds a bad thing? I think Sora Kahn likes to make crap up.

Umm...what about the prequel trilogy of Star Wars getting bashed for having CGI backgrounds? It's not a bad thing to me. It's half the board who does the bashing on the CGI backgrounds.

Tolkien
07-13-2007, 02:15 PM
Umm...what about the prequel trilogy of Star Wars getting bashed for having CGI backgrounds? It's not a bad thing to me. It's half the board who does the bashing on the CGI backgrounds.

I think you need to understand something here...

There are films where a CGI background is needed and enjoyed, and there are films where a CGI background is NOT needed and especially NOT enjoyed. With 300, to capture the beauty of the graphic novel, you needed CGI. With Star Wars, seeing the beautiful landscapes of the original trilogy is what made the original the best. And by taking away from the original but being lazy and going with a CGI screen instead, it spoiled the beauty of it.

carnage4u
07-13-2007, 02:33 PM
I was thinking about this summers movie this morning.

I really feel the summer started fairly weak, but has built up steam.

Which I feel is opposite of most summers. Im usually getting annoyed at low quality movies by this time of year.

The big 3 were only ok at best. Shrek being the worst of the 3. I did find some enjoyment from pirates though, even with its flaws.

Fantastic 4 sucked but are are we shocked? I mean really... are you shocked

suprises? 28 weeks later I felt was very good.
Oceans 13 was much bettern oceans 12, and I would say It was enjoyable as well, and not feel bad if someone argued me on that

Knocked up was simply great the comedy that will rule the summer.

Live free/die hard, Transformes, rataouliee, and Order of the phoneix are the last 4 movies ive seen, and Been very happy with them all, and even blown away by the last one I saw.



there were some less then stellar moments, but thats summer. I just think it started weaker then most, and that has people a little let down. But I feel the middle has been the strongest, which is unusually for summer. Even with maybe 1 good july 4th flick.

I think the new few weeks, arent going to be anything speical.

I hope Sunshine does well, and I will see, but dont really care about the Simpsons movies at all.

iv3rdawG
07-13-2007, 02:36 PM
Thinking about it this has been a huge box office summer. I mean you got your Spider-Man 3, Pirates 3, Shrek 3, Harry Potter 5, Transformers, Ratatouille, Knocked Up, Fantastic Four 2, and Die Hard 4.. I mean listing and thinking about those movies and the money that they have all generated is huge. Even with the absence of a Star Wars film this summer has been big. Now based on the quality of the films some are better than others and some aren't even that great. But one can't deny that this is probably one of the biggest summer for films.

Tolkien
07-13-2007, 02:37 PM
Really? Wow, that is a strong statement. I didn't care for the movie but I can see why people like it but "perfection" I mean it's your opinion and I am not saying it's wrong but that is just. perfection? Really?

I'm trying to find an understandable way to go at this... Okay, here goes. I hate adaptations. I do. I hate them because an adaptation just means that they're taking a novel or a comic and making it in THEIR grand design. It means that though the basic story will remain the same, many things about the original novel or comic will be changed or modernized. Wolverine's blue and yellow will become black leather, Spider-Man's webshooters will become organic shooters from his body, Neville Longbottom's importance will be tossed aside, ect.,ect., ect...

So when I went to "300" when it was released, I did so JUST reading the book that my brother gave me two days earlier. So when I went to see it, I had the book still fresh in my mind for referenceing. And with all of that in mind, I saw the film. And what I saw was "perfection." Not just because it was a very well made movie, not because it had a very strong story of pride and honor, and not because it had a great cast of unknown actors giving the best performances of their lives thus far...

But I say "Perfection" because thought it was an adaptation, it was more true to the original story then any other adaptation I have ever seen before. The beautiful and colorful landscapes, the graphic yet true to form battle scenes and most of all, the way almost every detail transfered perfectly from novel to big screen. I gave it one of the highest reviews, and only gave it a 9/10 because I had a slight problem with their deaths in the end. It was slightly different from the novel. I hope that gives you a better view on my (In My Opinion) I mentioned the word "Perfection" to discuss a movie.

People use the word perfection too easily when reviewing films. I don't. If I say a film was perfection, then that must mean that I consider the film to be of the highest regards. The only other film I throw that word around with when talking about is Seven Samurai. That too is a film that deserves the title of "Perfection".

halo7
07-13-2007, 04:07 PM
I actually thought organic webshooters was the best idead of the Spider-Man movies :P.

Even Stan Lee said he wished he had thought of it.

FranklinTard
07-13-2007, 05:20 PM
i think its more important to the character that hes extremely smart and makes his own webs.

and about 300, i also loved the book myself, and it was rather spot on to the book, except for the fact that every scene with the chick in the movie was not in the book. which bothered the hell out of me. hated all those parts, i fast forward through each of the scenes that are not in the GN.

so for that fact it is not perfect in my mind.... and it probably will reduce its replay value.

Knerys
07-13-2007, 10:12 PM
I agree with Tolkien on his assessment of 300's perfection.

For me it was a first movie in a long while to get the unequivocal emotional response that truely makes a movie for me. And for me that makes the movie "Perfect" (though it's more like excellence then perfect).


And I liked Gorgo. Add an interesting prespective.

sshuttari
07-14-2007, 12:41 AM
Spider-Man 3 - disapointment

28 Weeks Later… - great suprise

Pirates 3 - worst of the year

Shrek 3 - didn't see

Fantastic Four 2 - the first one sucked, didn't see 2nd

Knocked Up - easily the best movie of the summer

Ocean's 13 - best sequel of the summer, solid but unspectacular

1408 - great little suprise

Die Hard - sold out, I've been boycotting

Transformers - crap

Harry Potter 5 - didn't see 1-4 or read any of the books, won't see this.


The theme here is that everything that was good was a suprise and everything that was bad was a disapointment for the most part.

you should totally go see Ratatouille, great movie.

JBond
07-14-2007, 01:04 AM
Psssst, he doesn't watch animated movies.

Dracula
07-14-2007, 01:04 AM
you should totally go see Ratatouille, great movie.

ehhh, I don't really see kid movies, I havn't seen any of the Pixar things. I know they're supposed to have sub-text for adults but I'm not really convinced. I tried to be open minded with Shrek when it came on t.v. and it didn't change my mind.

JBond
07-14-2007, 01:05 AM
Shrek isn't Pixar.

Dracula
07-14-2007, 01:06 AM
Psssst, he doesn't watch animated movies.

I watch adult oriented animated movies, just not children's movies. I'm fine with somthing like Akira or A Scanner Darkly. Conversly I'm not interested in live action children's movies like Bridge to Terabithia.

Dracula
07-14-2007, 01:08 AM
Shrek isn't Pixar.

yeah, but it was a CGI animated movie that got insanly good reviews that said it was enjoyable to both adults and kids. The kid movie with adult sub-text thing didn't impress me.

JBond
07-14-2007, 01:19 AM
Yeah, but Shrek was kind of stupid. ;)

Movies like Toy Story and Monsters Inc are hilarious.

Dracula
07-14-2007, 01:28 AM
Yeah, but Shrek was kind of stupid. ;)

Movies like Toy Story and Monsters Inc are hilarious.

I think I'm just too much of a cynical and heartless individual for these things. I'm just not of a mentality for them. I'm not a fan of these sort of whimsical kind of things. I've never liked, say, E.T. I have a very David Lynch view of children, I can't stand them.

Doomsday
07-14-2007, 03:22 AM
I actually thought organic webshooters was the best idead of the Spider-Man movies :P.

Even Stan Lee said he wished he had thought of it.

I'll be honest. If you were to ask me "Hey Doomsday, I want you to write a comic strip about a guy who gets bit by a spider then gets spider like powers," the FIRST THING I would have thought of would be web coming out of his hands. I was never a Spider-Man comic fan, but I always thought the mechanical webshooters and him making his own web or whatever sounded so so stupid. WHY WOULD YOU MAKE YOUR CHARACTER USE MECHANICAL WEB SLINGERS WHEN YOU CAN JUST MAKE THEM COME OUT OF HIS HANDS? If Stan Lee had really never thought of that, then maybe society gives him too much credit.

Fiverrabbit
07-14-2007, 04:47 AM
Shrek the Third, I liked it.

Neverending
07-14-2007, 06:54 AM
I'm one of the few who's barely disappointed by summer blockbusters. Why? Because I am not expecting a masterpiece. Some people go into these movies expecting an Oscar worthy/AFI top 100 type film. If you go in expecting a movie that was made just so you can have fun for 90 mins to 2 hrs then you'll have a good time at the theater.

carnage4u
07-14-2007, 10:18 AM
I think I'm just too much of a cynical and heartless individual for these things. I'm just not of a mentality for them. I'm not a fan of these sort of whimsical kind of things. I've never liked, say, E.T. I have a very David Lynch view of children, I can't stand them.

my roomate is exactly the same way. Now I know there are two of you out there.. heh.

altough I belive im more cynical and heartless then anyone, i still find bizarre enjoyment from Pixar films.


I still stand by my original opinion on this summer, that it just started weaker then normal, but has made up a lot of ground with mid summer releases.

petergriffin246
07-14-2007, 11:37 AM
very true. I know this is a wierd statement but I think critcs and audiences will enjoy the simpsons movie.

Knerys
07-14-2007, 12:02 PM
I'll be honest. If you were to ask me "Hey Doomsday, I want you to write a comic strip about a guy who gets bit by a spider then gets spider like powers," the FIRST THING I would have thought of would be web coming out of his hands. I was never a Spider-Man comic fan, but I always thought the mechanical webshooters and him making his own web or whatever sounded so so stupid. WHY WOULD YOU MAKE YOUR CHARACTER USE MECHANICAL WEB SLINGERS WHEN YOU CAN JUST MAKE THEM COME OUT OF HIS HANDS? If Stan Lee had really never thought of that, then maybe society gives him too much credit.


See I always thought that too...actual spiders have "organic" web spinners, why wouldn't he. Maybe it was for the suspense element. For the "Oh no he's run out! What's he gonna do now??" kinda thing.

Doomsday
07-14-2007, 12:33 PM
I'm one of the few who's barely disappointed by summer blockbusters. Why? Because I am not expecting a masterpiece. Some people go into these movies expecting an Oscar worthy/AFI top 100 type film. If you go in expecting a movie that was made just so you can have fun for 90 mins to 2 hrs then you'll have a good time at the theater.

Well it's one thing to not expect an Oscar worthy movie, but I at least expect to be entertained and walk away happy. Again I'll use POTC 3. Stupid dialogue, ridiculous story wrapped in incoherent twists and turns, etc. Yeah I could have watched the special effects like a retard, but I expect a little more, especially coming from the people involved in production. It was just flat out dumb and the producers laughed all the way to the bank. I always put it this way....if I pay $10 to see a movie, I want to see a movie worth a $10 ticket.

Necross
07-14-2007, 01:26 PM
But that is again your own opinion. Laughed all the way to the bank? They filmed both movies back to back and put in over 300 million dollars to wrap up the third one. Did they figure it was because they'd make it all back? Yes, but thier aim was for a great movie, which I believe it was, but I guess I'm just a retard. I didn't see the differences between the third and the other two. Jack being silly, pirates backstabbing each other, Jack being a "good man" in the end. Nothing seemed like a twist to me. I don't see what anyone would have expected to be different.

judomaster
07-15-2007, 09:38 AM
See I always thought that too...actual spiders have "organic" web spinners, why wouldn't he. Maybe it was for the suspense element. For the "Oh no he's run out! What's he gonna do now??" kinda thing.

hats what i thought
to give spidey a weakness of sorts

sshuttari
07-15-2007, 02:07 PM
ehhh, I don't really see kid movies, I havn't seen any of the Pixar things. I know they're supposed to have sub-text for adults but I'm not really convinced. I tried to be open minded with Shrek when it came on t.v. and it didn't change my mind.

To each is own I guess, but I think you should atleast give some Pixar movies a chance.

See Incredibles, and if you like that movie then give Ratatouille a chance, and Finding Nemo.

If you still hate animated films after watching those then go ahead and stay away.

FranklinTard
07-15-2007, 02:34 PM
im not big on the animated flicks either, but girls love them. and ill take girls to see them. and i was actually pretty surprised with the last couple i saw, they made me laugh.

however if im goin out with friends im not going to be seeing any pixar movies...

werebadger
07-15-2007, 03:02 PM
I would agree that Spider-Man 3 was a let down, but FF2 was good,Live Free or Die Hard was cool, 300 was awesome and Transformers is the best movie I have seen in years, hands down.

FranklinTard
07-15-2007, 03:09 PM
ff2 was good? transformers best movie in years?

welcome to the twilight zone.

Knerys
07-15-2007, 03:39 PM
I like Pixar's movie. Some are better than others but all of them have been very engaging and clever.

Oliver Queen
07-15-2007, 03:58 PM
there have been a lot of really good movies this summer and a lot more to come

you guys need to stop wanting everything to be oscar worthy or epics

FranklinTard
07-15-2007, 04:23 PM
sorry man, my standards remain.

Knerys
07-15-2007, 04:41 PM
I still maintain that a movie should be taken at face value. I guess I just find it more enjoyable to let the action play out with out labeling it before hand. However if you dissappoint in something then you're disappointed in it.

hammerhedd11
07-15-2007, 06:08 PM
Umm...what about the prequel trilogy of Star Wars getting bashed for having CGI backgrounds? It's not a bad thing to me. It's half the board who does the bashing on the CGI backgrounds.

What are you talking about? The prequels got bashed because the writing, directing, and acting sucked.

Andrey83
07-15-2007, 06:56 PM
Amazing. You guys liked 300? What happened to 'Oh! It has CGI backgrounds! Automatic suck!'?

You guys are very inconsistent.

I know why you say this. Because you love Star Wars PT. And you hate that "we" bash it for too much cgi. Then "we" are being hipocrites when we say 300 is awsome.

No, that just won't cut it. 300 is stylized cool, PT just looks fake. Big difference.

Edit: Oh, i see you already started rambling about PT anyway. Didn't read past page 1, but ah well, you are too predictable.

Tolkien
07-15-2007, 07:07 PM
I just think that overall, if you walk into a film expecting an oscar winning motion picture, you're going to walk out unhappy. Few films throughout HISTORY have been truly Oscar worthy. That is not to say that there isn't many noble stories out there that is worth more then just a high remark. But it is to say that we can't keep expecting gold out of a bronze-medal Hollywood.

Andrey83
07-15-2007, 07:12 PM
Whats oscar worthy again? Isnt it just a popularity contest? ;)

Boiiinng
07-15-2007, 09:14 PM
I just think that overall, if you walk into a film expecting an oscar winning motion picture, you're going to walk out unhappy. Few films throughout HISTORY have been truly Oscar worthy. That is not to say that there isn't many noble stories out there that is worth more then just a high remark. But it is to say that we can't keep expecting gold out of a bronze-medal Hollywood.

I don't think most people here go into a film expecting Oscar-worthiness, at least I don't. I do, however, expect that a film that supposedly is good enough for it to be shown on a big screen, both story-wise and technically, is actually competent and consistent in it's presentation.

Actually, I think I've been on the opposite side of the majority recently. I liked Shrek 3, Spider-Man 3, FF2 and Pirates 3, but didn't like Transformers. And the best movie I've seen all year is the one film I thought originally was going to suck, Live Free Or Die Hard!!!

slinger
07-15-2007, 09:52 PM
Knocked Up
Harry Potter 5
Transformers

All three have left me in good moods, I came in and saw what I expected. HP5 could've used a bit more humour, someone has to crack a joke to lighten the mood. Even give me a 10 minute Quidditch match, still it left me wanting more.

Spider-Man 3 will take the victory for the biggest domestic gross but it wasted its potential.

Superbad is the only film left that I plan on seeing. Maybe a few other once they hit the cheap seats and I can see them all in one day.

I'll be honest. If you were to ask me "Hey Doomsday, I want you to write a comic strip about a guy who gets bit by a spider then gets spider like powers," the FIRST THING I would have thought of would be web coming out of his hands. I was never a Spider-Man comic fan, but I always thought the mechanical webshooters and him making his own web or whatever sounded so so stupid. WHY WOULD YOU MAKE YOUR CHARACTER USE MECHANICAL WEB SLINGERS WHEN YOU CAN JUST MAKE THEM COME OUT OF HIS HANDS? If Stan Lee had really never thought of that, then maybe society gives him too much credit.

Ditko and Kirby should get more credit for the Marvel characters. But even those two never suggested webbing from his wrist.


for the Sora Kahn thing, just hit the ignore button. Really all it is is: something about SR, TMNT is the best, 300 had cgi why do you like it, the critics suck. Search the posts. You won't miss anything.

rosncranz
07-16-2007, 12:23 AM
I just think that overall, if you walk into a film expecting an oscar winning motion picture, you're going to walk out unhappy. Few films throughout HISTORY have been truly Oscar worthy.


That doesn't even make sense. The Oscars are an award ceremony held to appreciate and award a prize to the best film of that year. So no matter the quality there will always be a film that is "Oscar worthy" if at least one film is made. You are judging movies as being Oscar worthy by your criteria, which you can't really do, because it is already judged by specific peoples criteria. You may not think one film deserved to win over another, but to say very few films ever made are Oscar worthy is ridiculous.

Ewok Droppings
07-16-2007, 12:59 AM
I'd say so far it's been a better summer than last year. Last year really sucked IMO.

Already saw:
Spiderman 3 - Decent, but I didn't expect much so I liked it.
Shrek 3 - A bit of a disappointment over the last 2
POTC 3 - sucked
Oceans 13 - Wish I never had wasted my time - SUCKED HARD
Transformers - I liked it for the mindless film it was
Live Free or Die Hard - Awesome movie!
FF2 Silver Surfer - Waste of money pure and simple

Still waiting to see:
Ratatoulie
Bourne Ultimatum
Simpsons
Rush Hour 3
Harry Potter (though I'm not a huge fan really so not too excited to see this)
1408
Chuck & Larry
Stardust
Superbad
3:10 to Yuma

Doomsday
07-16-2007, 03:24 AM
But that is again your own opinion. Laughed all the way to the bank? They filmed both movies back to back and put in over 300 million dollars to wrap up the third one. Did they figure it was because they'd make it all back? Yes, but thier aim was for a great movie, which I believe it was, but I guess I'm just a retard. I didn't see the differences between the third and the other two. Jack being silly, pirates backstabbing each other, Jack being a "good man" in the end. Nothing seemed like a twist to me. I don't see what anyone would have expected to be different.

Well it's not like I expect every movie to be an award winning film, it's just that people are sick of seeing the same thing done over and over....and not done as well as before. Did Spider-Man 3 really add anything new to the series? No. Did it have a bunch of subplots that didn't need to be there? Yes. Was it just as corny as the other three? Even more so. Therefore, people didn't like it. Don't think it's just me who's bashing these movies. Spider-Man, POTC, Shrek, etc. People generally just didn't like these movies because they didn't add anything, like you said nothing seemed like a twist, so people came away with nothing except the obvious realization that they were paying to see something made purely for the bank, not for the sake of art or pleasing audiences. I think I can speak for most people when I say that at least those three movies turned out to be huge disappointments, simply because we all expected more.

im not big on the animated flicks either, but girls love them. and ill take girls to see them. and i was actually pretty surprised with the last couple i saw, they made me laugh.

however if im goin out with friends im not going to be seeing any pixar movies...

I'll post what I wrote in another thread a while back....

"Here's the thing about current animated movies. Each and every one of them is exactly the same. With the exception of Incredibles, each one deals with some stupid talking animals who are taken away from their homes or something and go on some dumb adventure. I don't know how people haven't caught on, but you just need a celebrity voice, an animal, the celebrity playing that animal, and putting the animal in its non-natural environment. There's your movie. I hear "Oh Over the Hedge, it's not as good as Madagascar but it's better than The Wild and Barnyard." WHAT IS THAT? THEY'RE ALL ABOUT ANIMALS! How do people not see that? To quote Butch Cassidy, I've got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals."

Tolkien
07-16-2007, 03:46 AM
That doesn't even make sense. The Oscars are an award ceremony held to appreciate and award a prize to the best film of that year. So no matter the quality there will always be a film that is "Oscar worthy" if at least one film is made. You are judging movies as being Oscar worthy by your criteria, which you can't really do, because it is already judged by specific peoples criteria. You may not think one film deserved to win over another, but to say very few films ever made are Oscar worthy is ridiculous.

It does make every bit of sense, seeing as how I said that if you go into a film expecting an Oscar-Worthy film, you are going to walk out unhappy. Many People who went into Spider-Man 3 walked out unhappy because they were expecting a gold film and only got a bronze film. Get it? I'm not basing ANYTHING of my criteria or way of thinking at all. I'm just saying that if you walk into a film expecting something big, you will get burned a large percentage of the time.

Andrey83
07-16-2007, 04:48 AM
It does make every bit of sense, seeing as how I said that if you go into a film expecting an Oscar-Worthy film, you are going to walk out unhappy. Many People who went into Spider-Man 3 walked out unhappy because they were expecting a gold film and only got a bronze film. Get it? I'm not basing ANYTHING of my criteria or way of thinking at all. I'm just saying that if you walk into a film expecting something big, you will get burned a large percentage of the time.

I think he was refering to what you said about "few movies in history has been oscar worthy".

FVD
07-16-2007, 05:15 AM
Yeah I suppose it hasn't been an all too impressive Summer (Winter).

Spider-Man 3 - Average at best
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds' End - See Spider-Man 3
Shrek the Third - Entertaining to say the least
Fantastic Four - Rise of the Silver Surfer - enjoyed it. Story did his homework.
Transformers - enjoyed that also.
Harry Potter and Order of the Phoenix - best film of the summer (winter) so far.
Blades of Glory - surprisingly entertaining.

Yet to see

The Bourne Ultimatum (August)
Die Hard 4.0 (August)
Ratatouille (September)
Knocked Up (August)

Might be a different story seeing as I'll be on holiday in Oz in a couple weeks. After all I remember seeing Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind two months before the film even premiered on my shores.

Best movie I've seen in my summer - Hot Fuzz. :)

adt100
07-16-2007, 06:49 AM
The last 2 summers have been disappointing really. But these things tend to go in cycles. Audience are less than enthralled, ticket sales for the big films would (presumably) be affected and consqequently this might (one hopes) spur those in hollywood to get more decent films made, rather than just resting on their laurels and prodcuing sloppy sequels to major franchises.

prizm
07-16-2007, 07:49 AM
It does make every bit of sense, seeing as how I said that if you go into a film expecting an Oscar-Worthy film, you are going to walk out unhappy. Many People who went into Spider-Man 3 walked out unhappy because they were expecting a gold film and only got a bronze film. Get it? I'm not basing ANYTHING of my criteria or way of thinking at all. I'm just saying that if you walk into a film expecting something big, you will get burned a large percentage of the time.


translation: don't expect perfection and you will rarely be dissapointed?

rosncranz
07-16-2007, 10:47 AM
I think he was refering to what you said about "few movies in history has been oscar worthy".

Exactly.

Also Tolkien as for what you said about people's expectations I do agree to an extent. Rarely do I go into a film with high expectations because too often am I let down. The only time I go into a film with high expectations is when the film involves a film maker, actor, etc. that I think has a good track record. When I watch a Wong Kar Wai film I expect better than an Oscar Worthy film and I have yet to be disappointed. My Blueberry Nights has gotten a lot of negative reviews so I have tempered my high hopes, but still expect a lot. When I see a new Woody Allen movie I hope for the best (Annie Hall, Manhattan, Hannah and Her Sisters, Bullets Over Broadway) but I expect the worst (Anything Else, Curse of the Jade Scorpion, Small Time Crooks)

Anyway, my point is that I expect what is to be expected from a film before I watch it. I am more of an art film kinda guy, but I love a good summer blockbuster or stupid comedy as well. So when Spiderman 3 rolls around because of 1 and 2 I expect an all around good film, but I read reviews before hand get an idea of what people are saying in general adjust my expectations accordingly and go from there.


Are the movies really bad this year? Yes. But they are getting better and it seems that the movies that were supposed to be good were not and the ones people didn't expect to be much ended up being big hits.

FranklinTard
07-16-2007, 12:48 PM
like i said doomsday... i dont choose these animated movies... but i do have to pay for them....

FVD
07-17-2007, 01:13 AM
I can also say that I haven't really been anticipating any movies highly at all this year. The same could probably be said last year as well. I know I've been wanting to see them but neither film hasn't even grabbed my excitement levels at all. Next year could be a different story as I'll definitely be looking forward to The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Indy 4 and The Incredible Hulk. Oh and may as well add Prince Caspian and Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince.

So yes next year could be a good year for films. Just have to wait and see.

Tolkien
07-17-2007, 01:30 AM
translation: don't expect perfection and you will rarely be dissapointed?

Your translation... ^^^^


My translation: Don't go in expecting a masterpiece from a mindless summer popcorn flick.

FranklinTard
07-17-2007, 10:11 AM
why must movies be mindless? is your life mindless?

Tolkien
07-17-2007, 10:38 AM
What's with the personal attack here? A mindless popcorn flick means a film that doesn't focus on stories and characterization, and focus' on mindless action and special effects. It's not like I'm the only person to use it you know, I didn't come up with the term, so when I use it, I don't think I need someone to come back with a personal outburst. You're an adult right? Act like one. :rolleyes:

Where's my elephant?
07-17-2007, 12:44 PM
I'm not expecting Oscar winners but I at least want my $8 matinee ticket to be somewhat worth it. Problem is that some of these movies look like the movies you wait until HBO/Showtime/Starz for instead. *looks at F4 II,Shrek 3*

did someone call nacho librea and dupree a "hit"? impressive....

but yes, crap summer.

Excuse me, I forgot to be more specific for you just in case you decide to be an a$$hole to Ewok and I again. ;) I meant "financial" hit. Happy now, Franklin "re" Tard? Now go back to sucking NightWarrior's dick, you stupid c**t.

Frizzo the Clown
07-17-2007, 01:05 PM
In my opinion, resorting to name calling doesn't help you any if you're trying to make a point.

FranklinTard
07-17-2007, 01:07 PM
its not a problem, he holds grudges. bring the noise.

dont be so touchy, nothing i say here is a personal attack, its merely a stupid observation....

i did not mean for it to sound like an attack tolkien. my apologies.

and come on, admit it, its funny thinking of nacho libre and dupree as "hits" am i right?

Frizzo the Clown
07-17-2007, 01:19 PM
All I know is that everyone needs to relax and take it down a notch. Lets not get hostile. Thats my job. ;)

Sculder
07-17-2007, 02:18 PM
The ones I have seen:
Spiderman 3 - I liked it tho Sandman story arcs end was very stupid
Shrek 3 - I liked it
Oceans 13 - Better than 12 but not as good as 11, so more on a good side
4 - Silver Surfer - Not very good
Knocked Up - Very good
Transformers - Good but a bit over hyped
Die Hard 4.0 -It was the biggest let down of the summer as I expected a lot from it. (I hope the unrated DVD that is in the works will bring balls back to Die Hard franchise)

Tolkien
07-17-2007, 02:29 PM
its not a problem, he holds grudges. bring the noise.

I don't remember ever holding grudges to anyone? It's a message board.


dont be so touchy, nothing i say here is a personal attack, its merely a stupid observation....

It just sounded as if you were saying that I had a mindless life is all...


i did not mean for it to sound like an attack tolkien. my apologies.

I won't accept the apologies from the likes of you! Nah, I will... Accepted. :P

Darth Maul
07-17-2007, 02:34 PM
well i like TF, and DIE hard 4, i still have to see Hitman, Resident Evil, I am legend, 30 days of night.

Tolkien
07-17-2007, 02:49 PM
^^ Not really looking forward to 30 Days, but I do want to see I Am Legend and Resident Evil.

Darth Maul
07-17-2007, 02:51 PM
^^ Not really looking forward to 30 Days, but I do want to see I Am Legend and Resident Evil.

im stocked for RE, i think im the only one that actually likes the movie series re 1 and 2.

FranklinTard
07-17-2007, 02:59 PM
i heard 30 days of night screened extremely well. (and others hold grudges, not you)

Tolkien
07-17-2007, 03:05 PM
i heard 30 days of night screened extremely well. (and others hold grudges, not you)

I think I'm just not that into it because I've been through the whole Vampire myth for too many years now. I've seen every single vampire made TV show and movie out there and it's grown tiresome on me. (I do hold many grudges... just not online ;))

Tolkien
07-17-2007, 03:07 PM
im stocked for RE, i think im the only one that actually likes the movie series re 1 and 2.

You and me... we're part of a small ragtag group of RE-Fans. We don't even have a girl. lol.

Darth Maul
07-17-2007, 03:09 PM
You and me... we're part of a small ragtag group of RE-Fans. We don't even have a girl. lol.

have you seen my HUNK costume?

Tolkien
07-17-2007, 03:23 PM
Please say you ment HULK... lmao... But seriously though, No.

Darth Maul
07-17-2007, 03:31 PM
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v71/124/20/796520342/n796520342_458376_1246.jpg

worked on it alot and def reap the cool benefits. Ill be at comic con with this, last time there was a whole squad of UBCS. It was fun.

Tolkien
07-17-2007, 03:57 PM
Well now that looks cool, dude. Nice work. Another f**ked up part about living down here... No ComicCon. :(

Ewok Droppings
07-17-2007, 04:04 PM
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v71/124/20/796520342/n796520342_458376_1246.jpg

worked on it alot and def reap the cool benefits. Ill be at comic con with this, last time there was a whole squad of UBCS. It was fun.

All I can think about when I look at that picture is how hot it must be wearing that thing. I'd have some major swass going on.

Darth Maul
07-17-2007, 04:15 PM
All I can think about when I look at that picture is how hot it must be wearing that thing. I'd have some major swass going on.

ya it gets hot, but inside air conditioned its nice. Normally that gear is for the night. Its fun though to wear.

judomaster
07-17-2007, 04:42 PM
i wish they had comic book conventions in titusville fla area