original v remakes

[Ltrain]

with seen alot of hollywood remakes some have worked others have not.what do u guys think ?should they remake movies,tv shows and risk messing it up ie Godzilla:nono:.

[Lynchfan2033]

well, sometimes it works, although not very often, I mean the Dawn of the Dead remake was great (i didn't like the original much anyway, I know blasphemy shoot me)

and interesting remake was the remake to The Man Who New Too Much, Hitchcock remaking his own movie.

i do htink for the most part the remakes have been just about pointless.. I thin basically if the movie is already great, there is no need to remake it.

[Steve from Indy]

I think it makes some sense to remake movies that can be updated with better visuals and such, or classic stories that can easily be re-interpreted like Crime and Punishment, Mutiny On The Bounty and the like. Otherwise I wish they would refrain from such misguided endeavors.

[MaraJade]

I think some movies can be safely remade, so that younger audiences who may not have seen the original, can enjoy them. However, some classics should just be taboo, and should never be remade.

[tiamat1990]

Some remakes are good. Most of them are rubbish though: Poseidon...

[Carnage Escobar]

However, some classics should just be taboo, and should never be remade.


Yeah, like The Evil Dead *sigh*

[Tevinhead]

Usually the original is better, take for example:

The Grudge
The Italian Job
King Kong
Psycho
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre

The only better ones I can think of are like:

Dawn Of The Dead (Not Necessarily better but it's just as good.)
The Titanic
The Departed

Probably missing some. I guess it's the whole thing of, "Never cover a Beatle's song." Although I think it's always interesting to see someone try. And if they succeed then good. If they don't we can always have fun pointing out how much worse the remake was =].

[Andrey83]

with seen alot of hollywood remakes some have worked others have not.what do u guys think ?should they remake movies,tv shows and risk messing it up ie Godzilla:nono:.

Yes they should, if the remakes makes money.

Oh, you thought this was about making movies. Oh, no...my dear. This is about making money ;)

[masterful misha]

ya ima say what most of the other people here said... remakes can be good at sometimes but some cant pull it off. like the longest yard was a rtash remake. but some of the frankenteins wer good

[Mat]

Hollywood should remake every movie ever made. Who needs old movies when you can have shiny new ones with hip, good-looking actors and whiz bang special effects.

[Dracula]

Only three types of remakes work
1. remakes of movies that were only so-so to begin with (The Departed)
2. remakes of movies that were originally compromised by censorship or SERIOUS effects limitations (Cape Fear, Scarface, or King Kong)
3. remakes that try to do very different things then their original (Batman Begins)

[Ltrain]

Also they're thinking of remaking the evil dead movies thoughts.

[Dracula]

I don't care, The Evil Dead movies are some of the most over-rated movies ever

[judomaster]

a movie based on the martial arts series raven

[Doomsday]

The only remake I thought was better than the original was The Thomas Crown Affair. Even though I'm a huge Steve McQueen fan, the original was just him being himself and acting cool, with a pretty thin plot and him hooking up with Faye Dunaway.

[gabrielangel]

Nothing is original anymore. Everything that you might think to be original was already written down or made into an independent film by some hippie on acid. To have a movie you need that conflict to pop up at some point.

Would be interesting to see someone just leave the conflict out. Have a hero that always wins and never gets captured. It might not turn out too good, but it would definitely shock movie goers.

[Zebra 3]

The only better ones I can think of are like:

Dawn Of The Dead (Not Necessarily better but it's just as good.)
The Titanic
The Departed
The historical drama A Night to Remember is much better than that grossly overrated Hollywood crap Titanic.

[Dracula]

The historical drama A Night to Remember is much better than that grossly overrated Hollywood crap Titanic.
I'd call Titanic grossly overbashed

I wouldn't really call it a remake either

[Inferno]

Good remakes...

Ben Hur- Bit unfair I suppose to compare to a silent film, but the Charlton Heston version is a timeless classic.
Maltese Falcon - Bogart at his best.
Father of the Bride - The remake really just took the name and the idea. Everything else is different and more fitting for a modern audience.
The Thing - Original was just another B sci-fi movie, with admittedly a couple of great scenes. The remake stayed much closer to the book and upped the suspense and horror to a whole new level.

[Inferno]

I'll also give points to Peter Jackson's King Kong. While not better than the original it was an entertaining time filler. Interesting to see a remake set in the same era as the original rather than updating to a modern setting. Major draw backs were its running time and that in the end unless your into seeing a film for the special effects, there's really not enough different here to make it stand above the original.

[Doomsday]

Major draw backs were its running time and that in the end unless your into seeing a film for the special effects, there's really not enough different here to make it stand above the original.

That's what made me really hate the movie. King Kong was a 2 hour movie stretched over 3 hours, with nothing really holding it together except chase after chase after chase and a plethora of visuals. I'd rather see another movie that's more worthy of 3 hours of my time.

[Nilade]

Battle Royale should be remade, but I doubt they could do it as good.

[Iamdamian]

I HATE remakes. I can't put it any simpler than that, but there have been a few very good remakes in recent years. I wouldn't call Batman Begins, or Charlie and The Choclate Factory remakes, as they went back to the original well of the idea to try to re-harvest the original ideas rather than outright remake them.

I think most american Horror films today are dreadful, and I dislike the americanized asian remakes even more. I'll boycot OLDBOY if they ever get their american remake off the ground. The original is a CLASSIC. As for Battle Royale, I read once upon a time they were considering an Americanized version. Bleh. *I CAN'T WAIT* (to see how much they **** it up.)

Now some of the Updated films have worked pretty damned well. I'm probably in the minority, but i rather enjoyed The Manchurian Candidate. Actually, I enjoyed both versions, and i wish there was a way i could combine my favorite parts from the two movies together into another version. They both had great ideas and made good movies, not great but good.

The Thing was an amazing remake, which i am sad to hear they are working on another remake.

Halloween. Do we really need Rob Zombie to make another crappy horror movie? I'll watch it because it has Malcolm McDowell in it, but it won't be Halloween.

then there are the remakes, that have almost nothing to do with the original but the title. Dawn of the Dead, loved it, but nothing to do with the original.

Ok, my cold meds are kicking into overdrive and i can't think of anything else to rant about... Maybe its the cold medicine that did they typing above, i dunno.. heh.

[XtRaVa]

Battle Royale should be remade, but I doubt they could do it as good.

Any particular reason why? Why cant people just watch the original? They cant read? :rolleyes:

[Doomsday]

Now some of the Updated films have worked pretty damned well. I'm probably in the minority, but i rather enjoyed The Manchurian Candidate. Actually, I enjoyed both versions, and i wish there was a way i could combine my favorite parts from the two movies together into another version. They both had great ideas and made good movies, not great but good.


The new Manchurian Candidate movie is a prime example of what I'm getting fed up with in new movies. Thanks to movies like this and retard M. Night Shyamalan, every screenwriter thinks they have to include some sort of original "twist" or curve in their movies in order for them to be good, but these movies try way too hard to do it and really brings the movie down. Note to M. Night: Sixth Sense was good, well done, now do everyone else a favor and stop making movies for the sake of making another lame twist and showing everyone how intelligent you think you are. Sometimes simplicity is key.

[Iamdamian]

The new Manchurian Candidate movie is a prime example of what I'm getting fed up with in new movies.

I don't remember what was so shocking about the ending that wasn't in the original. From what i recall they were almost exactly the same.


PS. If the movie can do it right, i love the twist endings. Especially since in 98% of the movies i can guess the ending.

[Dracula]

Twist endings are getting out of control, both The Prestige and Inside Man were marred for me because I saw the twist endings coming.

[Doomsday]

I don't remember what was so shocking about the ending that wasn't in the original. From what i recall they were almost exactly the same.


PS. If the movie can do it right, i love the twist endings. Especially since in 98% of the movies i can guess the ending.

Well the original had Bennet Marko trying to stop a brainwashed Raymond Shaw. Nice little spin taking advantage of the fear of Communism. The new one had Bennet Marko trying to stop a brainwashed Raymond Shaw.....but then you realize that Bennet Marko is also brainwashed, then he can't do anything because he's brainwashed but Shaw stops being brainwashed then has to stop Marko etc etc. Kinda took it over the line while the original was very smooth and worked well with the rest of the movie.

[bryann]

don't like remake, it's better to watch the original more unique actions and the story as well.

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[Ramplate]

I must say that John Carpenter's The Thing is much better than the original - bt on the whole I preffer the original movies

[huggingprincess]

Planet of the Apes was better.

[DAN!]

i personally hate most remakes, but there are always exceptions. like scarface was a remake wasn;t it? Origionally in was a hughs film, then they remade it, and now it is considered a classic. and some one mentioned psycho. I agree the origional is better, but imo, this remake wasn't all that bad, and they did a decent job with it. but yeah, most remakes are terrible.

Godzilla
Planet of the apes
manchrian canidate
The In Laws
Cheaper by the dozen
posieden

[Fanible]

Planet of the Apes was better.

*Eye twitches*

[DAN!]

i already might be considering adding that to my "ignore" list on the forum

[Ramplate]

Original planet of the Apes was better

[DAN!]

hands down. i am not a huge fan, but that remake was one of the worst movies i have ever seen.

[jonk]

films shouldn't be written off straight away for being a re-make. its what they do with it that counts. true they get it wrong alot, but sometimes it works.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Not sure if anybody mentioned, but Ocean's Eleven is definitely better than the original.

[smokiechimp]

Twist endings are getting out of control, both The Prestige and Inside Man were marred for me because I saw the twist endings coming.

I thought the prestige handles the twist's very well and kept them disguised considerably well. I had ideas as to what was going to happen but I couldn't be sure which of course is the whole point of the movie. I thought it was quite impressive.

[KUsubaruchick]

Battle Royale should be remade, but I doubt they could do it as good.

Boo hiss! If you're thinking of an American remake they would absolutely destroy that movie. Battle Royale is in my top 5, and it would break my heart if they did a remake of it. You even say they wouldn't do a good job with it.

Anyhoo, I'm usually against movie remakes. The only problem I have with the arguement of "well they can remake some movies, but leave the classics alone" is.... who decides what's sacred? No matter what movie idea is being tossed around to be remade, there will always be someone up in arms over it.

In an ideal world people could come up with new and interesting ideas, but we all know that will never happen.

[smokiechimp]

Boo hiss! If you're thinking of an American remake they would absolutely destroy that movie. Battle Royale is in my top 5, and it would break my heart if they did a remake of it. You even say they wouldn't do a good job with it.


I totally agree. It just wouldn't be the same as an American version. The humor of it just wouldn't come across in the same way, especially the ending.

[PsYkOoOoO]

I thought the prestige handles the twist's very well and kept them disguised considerably well. I had ideas as to what was going to happen but I couldn't be sure which of course is the whole point of the movie. I thought it was quite impressive.

Unlike all the other movies with twisty endings, I do agree with you here. I think the twist in this movie was meant to be figured out if you looked closely. After all, that's what the first line of the movie asked us to look for.

[jonk]

Anyhoo, I'm usually against movie remakes. The only problem I have with the arguement of "well they can remake some movies, but leave the classics alone" is.... who decides what's sacred? No matter what movie idea is being tossed around to be remade, there will always be someone up in arms over it.

In an ideal world people could come up with new and interesting ideas, but we all know that will never happen.

Why come up with a risky new idea, when re-makes seem to be such a good bet at the box office. No matter how much we love/hate the idea of re-makes. The public (including myself) is always interested to see what has been done with the film. And as long as this keeps happening, then re-makes will continue.