What do Non Star Wars fans think when they saw the Ep3 Trailer?

[Indy4]

What did you guys and gals think when you saw the Revenge of the Sith trailer?

like to hear it from the perspective of non SW fans.

[Drizzt240]

This is probably better off in Movies Coming Soon.

[sniktawt]

Yep

[neo5595]

most non-star wars fans wouldnt see this thread because its in the Star Wars forum. They probably wouldnt visit this forum if they were NON-star wars fans.

[Mr. Blonde1]

He posted it in the general movies section but a mod moved it here.

[Frizzo the Clown]

most non-star wars fans wouldnt see this thread because its in the Star Wars forum. They probably wouldnt visit this forum if they were NON-star wars fans.
Its a Star Wars thread. It belongs in the Star Wars forum...thats kinda the point of the thing.

[kel thuzad]

Ive got a couple of non star wars friends...
Actually only 3 friends of mine are really into Star Wars...not as much as me...but it suffices...
However !
Let me tell you what others think of things like these...
They have ABSOLUTELY no concept of how this universe and movies work. They dont know the characters (only ones which they recognize are Vader and Yoda), they dont understand that these are the prequels...therefore are confused who is who...so they naturally think SW is crap which has no story. Only part they like about these movies are fights and some spectacular moments...They take it as some infantile fairy tale - the lack of plot is excused with effects.
The whole trade federation / sepparatists / republic / empire concept is totally out of their grasp...
Now...people im talking about are NOT some stupid morons...they just dont give a crap...why ? Well mainly i think it is because they (also me) are only 20 years old and star wars didnt influence them as it did back on its release...
And since they are so pragmatic (like most people out there) that they dont like sci fi and even (OMFG !!!) combined with fantasy, Star Wars are seriously gettin dishonored here...but what can you do...
Sure many of them wil go buy the ticket (out of around 15 friends ive been talkin about im sure only 4 wont see it...rest of them will) and see the movie...but their reasons will be totally different than ours...Poor fellas...

[Sock-Man]

I showed the trailer to my dad (who likes Star Wars but couldn't be considered a fan really) and the first thing he said was "great, it looks like they've gone back to what Star Wars is supposed to be."

[bbf2]

I'm not a hardcore Star Wars fan, (I was back in 6th grade, but I doubt that counts) and I liked the trailer. I hope they have it tied more closely to the original trilogy instead of pursuing stupid crap no one cares about like Gungans, politics and those stupid green Trade Federation guys.

[Moridin]

I'm guessing the Trade Federation guys will, hopefully, kick the bucket. And politics won't play a big part in Episode III.

[kel thuzad]

I'm guessing the Trade Federation guys will, hopefully, kick the bucket. And politics won't play a big part in Episode III.
Yeah, the whole plitical-background thing is already etablished and we know where it goes...only thing left to see is how EXACTLY it plays out...

[PsYkOoOoO]

It was alright.Didnt blow me away as much as the Episode I and II teasers did,but still decent enough.At least i liked it more than the teaser poster.

[Starwars411]

When my friend saw it, he said, "It was cool."

Like most of the people said, most of my friends don't know that these are the prequels, and I have to explain everything to them, but they still seem confused.

[PsYkOoOoO]

After Episode I and II and they are STILL wondering if Episode III is the prequel or not?

Man...

[neo5595]

I was at the Incredibles last night with my two non star wars fans friends and they really enjoyed the teaser when it was shown. The crowd was silent throught the whole teaser. I think the audience really enjoyed the teaser in my screening.

[LordofKings]

I saw the INcredibles last night and THERE WAS NO TRAILER WITH IT! I was pissed to say the least. At least the movie was good;)

[fineus fog]

My wife isnt a big fan (ep 2 left a sour taste in her mouth) she saw the trailer and said that it looked pretty cool, but also said that it looked like GLhad watched LOTR too many times cos of a climax at a volcano!!!!!!

[neo5595]

My wife isnt a big fan (ep 2 left a sour taste in her mouth) she saw the trailer and said that it looked pretty cool, but also said that it looked like GLhad watched LOTR too many times cos of a climax at a volcano!!!!!!
Actually I heard about a volcano climax in Episode III from one of my friends whos in the film industry sometime in 1998.

[Scimitar]

That's because the prologue in "A NEW HOPE - The Novel [1976]" says the Duel is in a volcanic world.

[fineus fog]

Actually I heard about a volcano climax in Episode III from one of my friends whos in the film industry sometime in 1998.


I was not aware of that - thanx neo!!

[HeadHunter]

non star wars fans surely wouldnt have watched the trailer or even know when it was release or the importance of it so i am sure they prolly dont have any oppinion on it at all apart from to probably say it is for geeks

[Scimitar]

The trailer is showing with "The Incredibles" and "Edge of Reason".

[Tornado]

Well, it's playing with SOME prints of those films. I just returned from the Incredibles, and there was no trailer attached. I didn't really care, I've seen the teaser about 50 times by now anyways. But I would have liked to have seen it on the bigscreen.

[neo5595]

When I saw it on the bigscreen for the Incredibles some of the picture was cut out. Like it was zoomed in a little more than it should have, any way it was awesome on the bigscreen! I cant wait for the extra large size version of the trailer to come out!

[PS_PoWeR]

I am a very casual fan of Star Wars. I didnt see the new Special Editions (of the original trilogy) completely until just this year on DVD, and have NEVER seen the original originals.

I love the new trailer, and so does all the other non-Star Wars fans I know. It's because of Darth Vader. You don't even need to be a Star Wars fan to be a fan of Darth Vader.....he is one of the most recognizable bad guys in movie history.

Side notes:

-Someone here said that Star Wars fans love the prequels but the general public doesnt. I think its the other way around. I think its the Star Wars geeks/movie geeks that are spending all their time bashing TPM and Jar Jar, while casual fans don't really mind the movies and generally had a great time with them.
(Sometimes the Jar Jar BASHERS annoy me MORE than Jar Jar himself, to be honest with you. They won't shut up either!!)
The mainstream still generally accepts SW, including the prequels.

[neo5595]

I agree, well said.

[Boro]

"omg star wars is liek teh sux!"

[PsychoMike]

I'm not a huge Star Wars, although I have seen all the movies and liked the OT.

But I wasn't that impressed with the new trailer... and I don't understand what everyone sees in it. There were a couple of shots that looked cool (anikan's yellow eyes) and I liked Alec Gunisess' voice over from ANH, but other than that it was rather boring. I know it is just a teaser but it didn't get me interested in seeing episode 3 at all. The worst part of the teaser was Darth Vader, he is suppose to be this huge bad ass and showing him strapped to a board makes him look like a pussy... I just hope that this isn't the first time we will see the full Vader in the series... His enterance in ANH was so much better.

It could just be that I was severaly disappointed by the previous 2 prequels and not much will change my lack of interest in the final episode.

[neo5595]

I'm not a huge Star Wars, although I have seen all the movies and liked the OT.

But I wasn't that impressed with the new trailer... and I don't understand what everyone sees in it. There were a couple of shots that looked cool (anikan's yellow eyes) and I liked Alec Gunisess' voice over from ANH, but other than that it was rather boring. I know it is just a teaser but it didn't get me interested in seeing episode 3 at all. The worst part of the teaser was Darth Vader, he is suppose to be this huge bad ass and showing him strapped to a board makes him look like a pussy... I just hope that this isn't the first time we will see the full Vader in the series... His enterance in ANH was so much better.

It could just be that I was severaly disappointed by the previous 2 prequels and not much will change my lack of interest in the final episode.
His entrance wasnt meant to be bad ass. It was about seeing Darth Vadar. And actually I thought every shot was cool. And once again, this movie isnt about Vadar being really menacing and evil. Its about setting him up to be really bad and evil in the OT. He didnt look like a pussy. I dont understand what makes him a pussy just because hes rising up.

[PsYkOoOoO]

The volcano scene looked like LOTR according to my mother.

And those two robots was sorta like Sam and Frodo in Orc armor.Haha.Nevermind,lame joke.

[yissilmissil]

Does your mother understand LOTR? Because if she does then I don't think it would be too hard for her to understand Star Wars.

[bonfire62]

A lot of people I know really hate the new Star Wars, and weren't really excited to see the trailer. When I saw the trailer before the Incredibles, people in the theatre started clapping as soon as the lucasfilm emblem came on. Then after, people started clapping and cheering again. I personnally am a huge star wars fan, but dont think that the prequels are as good as the originals. They relied too much on computer graphics in the prequels, and the acting was much better in the older ones. (I wanted to hunt down that little kid who played Anakin in Episode I, he was pathetic!!)

[flukeman]

I am a huge OT/non-PT fan. I haven't seen the actual trailer yet, just the composite of stills in the trailer thread. It looks like more of the same old PT stuff to me, and that's not going to get me excited. I do like a few images though - parts of the duel, R2 and 3PO, and it's a little bit of a rush to see the Vader suit again. But honestly, the image I love the most is the one of Luke looking at the twin suns during the voice-over. I can't help it :) So, I guess this hasn't changed my opinion of the film yet - I'm keeping my anticipation way low. I'm hoping that I'll be able to first see the trailer on the big screen before I download it, to give it the benefit of the doubt.

[PsychoMike]

His entrance wasnt meant to be bad ass. It was about seeing Darth Vadar. And actually I thought every shot was cool. And once again, this movie isnt about Vadar being really menacing and evil. Its about setting him up to be really bad and evil in the OT. He didnt look like a pussy. I dont understand what makes him a pussy just because hes rising up.
It isn't because he is "rising up", It is because he isn't "rising up". He is being lifted up. Vader is strapped to a table that is lifting him up, not only that he has his hands up in a surrendering pose. From the looks of it he can't even move under his own power, he comes off as being more impotent than powerful like he is suppose to be.

If it was about seeing Vader than there are better ways that it could hve been accomplished. Something simple... he could have literally risen from a kneeling position infront of Sidious.

[PsychoMike]

I am a huge OT/non-PT fan. I haven't seen the actual trailer yet, just the composite of stills in the trailer thread. It looks like more of the same old PT stuff to me, and that's not going to get me excited. I do like a few images though - parts of the duel, R2 and 3PO, and it's a little bit of a rush to see the Vader suit again. But honestly, the image I love the most is the one of Luke looking at the twin suns during the voice-over. I can't help it :) So, I guess this hasn't changed my opinion of the film yet - I'm keeping my anticipation way low. I'm hoping that I'll be able to first see the trailer on the big screen before I download it, to give it the benefit of the doubt.
I agree with you for the most part.... I think the teaser should have ended just after the voice-over. Maybe showing Hayden with yellow eyes and a few shots of Anikin and Obi-wan fighting.

Like most of the PT it seems to suffer from showing to much.

[Miasma]

It isn't because he is "rising up", It is because he isn't "rising up". He is being lifted up. Vader is strapped to a table that is lifting him up, not only that he has his hands up in a surrendering pose. From the looks of it he can't even move under his own power, he comes off as being more impotent than powerful like he is suppose to be.

If it was about seeing Vader than there are better ways that it could hve been accomplished. Something simple... he could have literally risen from a kneeling position infront of Sidious.

I agree that he doesn't look powerful in that scene, and I don't think he's supposed to. I think the point of it is that it shows his "birth." We all know what Vader has done in the OT, and so when we see him being raised here, the impact is supposed to be, "Uh oh, it's him! Here we go..." I thought it worked pretty well in that way.

[PsychoMike]

I agree that he doesn't look powerful in that scene, and I don't think he's supposed to. I think the point of it is that it shows his "birth." We all know what Vader has done in the OT, and so when we see him being raised here, the impact is supposed to be, "Uh oh, it's him! Here we go..." I thought it worked pretty well in that way.
I think that is the main problem... you and most others... are looking at it knowing what Vader will do in future episodes. And you accept that just seeing him is good.

But for someone who hasn't seen the OT and would be watching SW starting with the PT (which is what GL seems to want) it is very uninspiring. His enterance in ANH showed alot more of his charecter, and power/ability, than his enterance in ROtS (presuming the clip in the trailer is suppose to be the first time we see Vader in full costume).

[Sock-Man]

I think that is the main problem... you and most others... are looking at it knowing what Vader will do in future episodes. And you accept that just seeing him is good.

But for someone who hasn't seen the OT and would be watching SW starting with the PT (which is what GL seems to want) it is very uninspiring. His enterance in ANH showed alot more of his charecter, and power/ability, than his enterance in ROtS (presuming the clip in the trailer is suppose to be the first time we see Vader in full costume).

I agree. But, I'm slightly sceptical about that being the first time we see him in the movie. There's something about it, that looks too theatrical, like it's been created just for the trailer. Maybe I'm wrong, but the black background and the way he rises slowly enough for clips to be interspersed makes me wonder whether it will actually be the shot used for his 'rising'.

Anyway.. maybe the scene could be saved if after being released he does something like badass, like unleash some fury on the emperor.. or trash some things.. or something.. hmm..

[Scimitar]

I think that is the main problem... you and most others... are looking at it knowing what Vader will do in future episodes. And you accept that just seeing him is good.

But for someone who hasn't seen the OT and would be watching SW starting with the PT (which is what GL seems to want) it is very uninspiring. His enterance in ANH showed alot more of his charecter, and power/ability, than his enterance in ROtS (presuming the clip in the trailer is suppose to be the first time we see Vader in full costume).
Darth Vader is a character - that is a suit, not the actual character.

I thought it was pretty clear already have Vader appears both in and out of the suit - and there is still alot of screen time in the suit as well.

What's seen in the trailer is an edit of the real thing, and it's when Vader's dons the life-support suit. But he'll be Vader way before this happens though.

[Moridin]

Come on...can you REALLY see Christensen as a badass? Not me.

[Sock-Man]

Come on...can you REALLY see Christensen as a badass? Not me.

I can.. kinda.. He looked pretty badass in the teaser. I can kinda imagine him as a cold-blooded killer. He did look pretty mean with his yellow eyes and when he was forcing Obi-Wan's saber down onto himself.

[neo5595]

I wouldnt really say hes a bad ass(that wouldnt work in the movie), but hes got a lot of hatred inside of him. Just like Vadar in the OT, he just wanted to let his anger out. Vadar just an angry guy.

[Miasma]

I think that is the main problem... you and most others... are looking at it knowing what Vader will do in future episodes. And you accept that just seeing him is good.

But for someone who hasn't seen the OT and would be watching SW starting with the PT (which is what GL seems to want) it is very uninspiring. His enterance in ANH showed alot more of his charecter, and power/ability, than his enterance in ROtS (presuming the clip in the trailer is suppose to be the first time we see Vader in full costume).

Honestly, how many people do you think will be watching Episode 3 who have never seen or heard of Darth Vader before? Yes, I know in some theoretical world, THIS should be the first we see of Vader, but realistically, it's just not.

Also, you mention that his entrance in ANH shows a lot more of his character-- yes, it shows his character at the time of ANH. In Episode 3, Darth Vader is just being "born." Similarly, will you be upset when Luke's first appearance in Episode 3 doesn't quite match his "staring at the twin suns" scene in ANH?

Vader's "character" at this point is someone who has lost his way and has subsequently fallen completely under Palpatine's control, I imagine. Seeing Palpatine raising him on that table, handcuffed, demonstrates this quite well. He no longer has his own will-- he's been leashed by the darkside ("I cannot disobey my master.") And I think there is something quite ominous about it. Looking back at the kid we knew from TPM, and then seeing this monster that he's become, is pretty disturbing. Oh, and of course it also has that whole Frankenstein vibe to it, which makes it feel pretty dark.

But I could ramble on about the merits of it forever, and if you don't see it, you don't see it. I guess that's the whole thing with any sort of art, whether it's movies, music, paintings, whatever... people just react differently to different things.

[neo5595]

Very well put Miasma. I agree with pretty much everything :) .

[PsYkOoOoO]

Does your mother understand LOTR? Because if she does then I don't think it would be too hard for her to understand Star Wars.

Yeah.She's pretty much crazy about it like myself.