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Antony
07-10-2004, 01:13 PM
I read today that the third Harry Potter movie has made 229 million to date in the US. As of friday, Spiderman 2 has made the same money in 10 days. Now naturally I'm not shocked by this. Spiderman 2 is a bigger movie. But Harry Potter is falling off of the box office chart. It's down to 11th and it's only showing in 2000 theaters. In the next few weeks it'll probably drop completely off of the charts and be out of most theaters.

The point is this. How many movies does the Harry Potter franchise have left in it? POA has been out for over a month, and while it still has managed to stay in the top ten, it hasn't made the same amount in the US as the rest of them. The second Potter movie made 60 million less domestically than the first movie. And the third has made 30 million less than the second.

With a budget of 130 million, and marketing costs of 50 million, the movie has still made a sizable profit. Enough to warrant another movie. But with the costs of movies, and the need to make each movie more spectacular than the last, are we looking at the end of this franchise?

Granted, as I said before, the Potter films have always been known to do much better overseas, but I'm beginning to think that even the overseas population is growing tired of the young wizard.

The first movie made over 600 million overseas. The second movie made just about the same amount. But the third film has made around 360 million overseas. A sizable dropoff from the first two. And like I said, that total is losing momentum each weekend too.

But, as I said before, the question is, are people just getting tired of it? How many movies does the franchise have left? They're not gonna keep making them if the producer starts losing his ass on them. With budgets on the rise, and profits on the fall, how many do they have left? 2? At max? With this kind of dropoff in sales when compared to the second movie, I don't know if they even have 2 left. I think one more might be the end. It's not neccesarily depending on whether the movie profits at all, but on how much profit it brings in. If they start seeing more of these 50 percent dropoffs, will they stop a sequel from happening based on fear of how much money they could lose?

JackBauer
07-10-2004, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Antony
Granted, as I said before, the Potter films have always been known to do much better overseas, but I'm beginning to think that even the overseas population is growing tired of the young wizard.


i recently checked "Box Office Mojo". and yes, many other movie are doing much better overseas as well.

HP is popular here. but the competition is extremly hard this time!such big movies as Shrek 2, TDAT (which is a huge success over here), SM2 (breaking all records) are just more popular. HP did very well here AFAIK. but the theatre owners play it only in small theatres, the bigger ones and especially our XXL-mega-size-theatres are showing Spidey2 now along with Shrek 2. TDAT has also a good theatre but HP is just beeing pushed aside, i feel.

i thought its a good movie, even though i didn't like HP from the beginning.

IamMrDJ
07-10-2004, 02:03 PM
The summer is a hard time to release a movie. The first two HArry Potter movies were released in November a more quite movie release month. HP3 is only $30 million behind HP2 right now. HP3 is still the number 3 movie of the year, soon to be 4 after Spidy passes it. That is not too shabby for moving a big movie franchise to a new release month. HP4 will eb released next November and that should help it in the box office. Summer months just have too much competition. Shrek 2 and Spidey 2 will be the summers big money makers because they were so anticipated. HP3 will be a success because of the overseas adn the anticipation for the next movie.

Xander
07-10-2004, 06:35 PM
The Harry Potter movie, as of right now, is doing better than the second, but a little behind the first one.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=vs-harrypotter.htm <-- go there for day-to-day faceoff.

IamMrDJ
07-10-2004, 08:08 PM
Yeah I checked that out earlier. There is almost no way that any Harry Potter movie will beat the first one thought, because it was so anticipated.

Necross
07-10-2004, 08:09 PM
I knew the third would do as good as the second, take that Wolfgang. ;) Anyway, it was its releasing. You don't see anything like Shrek II or Spider Man 2 being released in November. Potter's only real competition were the LOTR movies.

The_PBCer
07-10-2004, 08:32 PM
I just saw the 3rd one, sure best the 2nd.

Necross
07-10-2004, 08:40 PM
Yes, The Third one was the best, I have heard the complaints about stuff left out but i don't agree. I think everything that was left out can be assumed if you have the thinking ability of a 10 year old. with the exception of James Potter being Prongs, maybe Everything else is given to you just not said out loud.

Tornado
07-10-2004, 10:07 PM
Normally I'd say that there is a whole forum for this discussion but ehhh, I'm not in the mood for it. I'll let the mods do their job. Or not, whatever.

MovieFreak322
07-10-2004, 10:15 PM
Well I saw the first one and it was great. The second one was ok. And the third one was great. I think they're aiming to make seven for harry's seven years at Hogwarts. I think they should just end it now though as a trilogy. If they did that then I'd really respect the franchise.

IamMrDJ
07-10-2004, 10:35 PM
They have a movie deal to produce every book that J.K. writes for the series. As the movies go along and the kids get older I can see them getting darker and darker.

Xander
07-11-2004, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Necross
Yes, The Third one was the best, I have heard the complaints about stuff left out but i don't agree. I think everything that was left out can be assumed if you have the thinking ability of a 10 year old. with the exception of James Potter being Prongs, maybe Everything else is given to you just not said out loud.

I think it was too long, they could have cut many boring talks and added more quidditch, more comedy? and wtf was with all the locations being changed? :mad:

Xander
07-11-2004, 11:50 AM
I still loved it tho, my brother and sister didint enjoy it as much as the first two.

IamMrDJ
07-11-2004, 03:22 PM
I thought that it was the best one yet. I liked the darker feel to it and I also enjoyed the new vision for the movie from the new director. I just wish he was staying on for Part 4.