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Garth
07-03-2004, 06:06 PM
I'm so pissed off! Today I went to Blockbuster, got out Seven. I really wanted to see it and started watching it tonight, and 50 minutes into the movie, the disc goes crazy and starts skipping everywhere and eventually freezes. I take the disc out and it is scratched the **** out.

It happened at such a bad place (it was a really climatic scene). I really wanted to find out what happens next - please, nobody tell me, I'll find out for myself.

Other than get my money back tomorrow, there's nothing else I can do. I've tried cleaning the disc, but it's hopeless.

I'm so annoyed!

Anyone else have a similar experience?

cg124
07-03-2004, 06:11 PM
I remeber when I rented the bourne identy. I was really into it, it was at the car chase and durning the scene it starting skiping and freezing up. My mom went back to blockbuster to get another copy but they didn't have any so she got minority report insted

redman
07-03-2004, 07:19 PM
i stopped going to blockbuster cause the dvd's were so bad. i just went to another video store. but skipping's the most annoying thing about dvd's. hopefully those new dvd's that can withstand some scratches will be out soon.

WuTical
07-03-2004, 07:24 PM
never rent dvd's @ Blockbuster

especially the older ones

they're always scratched to hell

cg124
07-03-2004, 07:27 PM
Some people just don't know how to take care of a CD

SPW
07-03-2004, 09:48 PM
that alqays happens to me, i just have A DISK CLEANING SET

ZombieMan
07-04-2004, 12:10 AM
That happend to me when I rented Monster when it first came out believe it or not but I didn't rent it at Blockbuster. I got it at Movie Gallery and the stupid ****ers tried to say I scratched it, OHHHHH that pissed me off!

cg124
07-04-2004, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by ZombieMan
That happend to me when I rented Monster when it first came out believe it or not but I didn't rent it at Blockbuster. I got it at Movie Gallery and the stupid ****ers tried to say I scratched it, OHHHHH that pissed me off!

man that sucks, i would have told them to **** off

sniktawt
07-04-2004, 12:46 AM
I bought "The Royal Tenebaums" At Blockbuster Prev. Viewed and half way through the damn thing ceased in the DVD player.
Took an hour to get it ejected.I really wanted that movie because it was Criterion and it was only $ 6.99.Bastards.

I returned it and got Terminator 3 and they let me take a Brand new copy and they also gave me $ 10 Off another Prev. Viewed Movie But said I had to wait another day to use it lol.
Blockbuster sucks but when you complain the way I did you get some results.

cg124
07-04-2004, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by sniktawt
I bought "The Royal Tenebaums" At Blockbuster Prev. Viewed and half way through the damn thing ceased in the DVD player.
Took an hour to get it ejected.I really wanted that movie because it was Criterion and it was only $ 6.99.Bastards.

I returned it and got Terminator 3 and they let me take a Brand new copy and they also gave me $ 10 Off another Prev. Viewed Movie But said I had to wait another day to use it lol.
Blockbuster sucks but when you complain the way I did you get some results.

I'll remeber that. I like blockbuster because they have some deals on used movies and games. But theres been two times where my dad came close to not going their anymore. And well I'm glad he didn't because the only other video store near me sucks ass

PsYkOoOoO
07-04-2004, 12:51 AM
At the place where i rent Dvds they'll always allow me to check the discs before i rent it.So thats good.

rosncranz
07-04-2004, 01:00 AM
i work at a blockbuster, and i dont know how many times people purposefully scratch them and then bring them back and complain, i check them almost every time, and most of the time i let people get a new one, it doesnt matter where you rent from though, it happens everywhere.

sniktawt
07-04-2004, 01:01 AM
Yeah I go to a Mom and Pop Family owned Business to rent which is like a Minute walk from my house and they always show the disc to me when I rent it.

droidguy1119
07-04-2004, 01:16 AM
Well, rosncranz, no offense, but Blockbuster sucks.

Once they charged a family over like $600,000 in incorrect late fees. They requested the makers of two-disc sets not contain anything referring to the second disc on disc one, so they could rent you the discs separately. Their censorship is ridiculous, they even came close to and in some cases did stock illegally edited movies. Their customer service department is dumb (in a story in Roger Ebert's Movie Answer Man column, a man found that not only a clerk, but also the manager of that store and Blockbuster Corporate Headquarters all claimed you could rewind DVDs, explaining the "Be Kind Please Rewind" sticker on the disc). They put parental advisory stickers on all anime, regardless of how clean, unless it is Sailor Moon, Pokemon or Digimon. They even labeled some movies as containing terrorists after 9/11.

And of course, their discs are scratched.

I shop at Hollywood Video.

rosncranz
07-04-2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by droidguy1119
Well, rosncranz, no offense, but Blockbuster sucks.

Once they charged a family over like $600,000 in incorrect late fees. They requested the makers of two-disc sets not contain anything referring to the second disc on disc one, so they could rent you the discs separately. Their censorship is ridiculous, they even came close to and in some cases did stock illegally edited movies. Their customer service department is dumb (in a story in Roger Ebert's Movie Answer Man column, a man found that not only a clerk, but also the manager of that store and Blockbuster Corporate Headquarters all claimed you could rewind DVDs, explaining the "Be Kind Please Rewind" sticker on the disc). They put parental advisory stickers on all anime, regardless of how clean, unless it is Sailor Moon, Pokemon or Digimon. They even labeled some movies as containing terrorists after 9/11.

And of course, their discs are scratched.

I shop at Hollywood Video.


that is not all of them trust me, there is no way you can say that their discs are scratched more than anyother place and i hate to break it to you droidguy, but hollywood video is blockbuster.

sniktawt
07-04-2004, 04:00 AM
Is Hollywood Video really Owned by Blockbuster , rosn?

As for Blockbuster , This is a story I told on here once when I first came to the boards and this will tell you how dumb Managers at Blockbuster can be...

Back in Late '98 when I first got my DVD player I went to Blockbuster and tried to see if they had any DVD's for rent , I asked the Manager and she said not a word of lie , "We don't have those , will never have those , they are a flash in the pan and will be gone by the end of the year , We will always carry Video cassettes as they will never go out of style.Why on earth would you waste your money on a DVD player".My reply..."Um...right ...Ok , see ya later."

Now I don't go in Blockbuster much But I will say I believe she don't work there no more.lol.

Muffy
07-04-2004, 04:02 AM
Never happened to me, but I have been given the wrong DVD a few times. One was a Russian ballet.

sphericthor
07-04-2004, 04:50 AM
That's why I NEVER rent DVDs

redman
07-04-2004, 08:11 AM
well, in my area, i have 3 videos stores within walking distance and blockbuster's dvd's are by far the worst quality. I dont get it. How can there be really badly kept dvd's at one video store and really well kept dvd's at another store? Is it just that all the slobs go to blockbuster?

rosncranz
07-04-2004, 12:17 PM
well one chain does not take worse care of there dvd's sorry but that is an impossible generalization.


yes, hollywood and blockbuster are the same snick.

Andrey83
07-04-2004, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by cg124
Some people just don't know how to take care of a CD

DVD you meen? :p ;)

And we have the same problem in Norway. And i think there is some truth in what Ros said about people scratching the dvd's just to get a new one.

Damn, do something Ros!! Kick their ass next time!!! :)

BEXSTAR
07-04-2004, 12:27 PM
I have to say that I rent a film form blockbuster most weekends and I have never had any problems with them. They are now doing a trade service where you can take your old games & dvd,s and put them towards the value of a new game/dvd.

anaria22
07-04-2004, 01:09 PM
My old DVD player was incredibly sensitive to scratchs. If there was so much as the tiniest little indent, it would move in slow motion, until the picture began to jump around with green spikes going every which way, until it finally froze and returned to the beginning. It even did that if it was dusty. The new one works a lot better, and since then, I've never had a problem. And I've never had a problem with videos either.

droidguy1119
07-04-2004, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by rosncranz
well one chain does not take worse care of there dvd's sorry but that is an impossible generalization.


yes, hollywood and blockbuster are the same snick.

First off, certainly chains take worse care of their DVDs than another. To think that they don't is ridiculous. Some grocery stores will drop more food than others. Some department stores will have more beat up merchandise than others. Fast food restaurants will serve lower-quality food than others. Obviously, they don't do it on purpose, but it will inevitably happen. Two stores will not have the same imperfections on their copy of a given movie.

To think that this is untrue is the impossible fact.

Meanwhile, where did you hear that Hollywood and Blockbuster are the same company? A search of their websites shows no evidence of a parent company, and they are definitely not directly related. I am pretty sure the companies are individual.

Dracula
07-04-2004, 02:27 PM
this happens with just about 1 in 3 rentals for me, I hate those dumb ****ers who manage to **** up every ****ing movie I ****ing rent.:mad:

WuTical
07-04-2004, 03:00 PM
i go to Video Warehouse most of the time
plus they cheaper

rosncranz
07-04-2004, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by droidguy1119
First off, certainly chains take worse care of their DVDs than another. To think that they don't is ridiculous. Some grocery stores will drop more food than others. Some department stores will have more beat up merchandise than others. Fast food restaurants will serve lower-quality food than others. Obviously, they don't do it on purpose, but it will inevitably happen. Two stores will not have the same imperfections on their copy of a given movie.

To think that this is untrue is the impossible fact.

Meanwhile, where did you hear that Hollywood and Blockbuster are the same company? A search of their websites shows no evidence of a parent company, and they are definitely not directly related. I am pretty sure the companies are individual.


thats not the same thing, you are saying that they take care of the dvds at blockbuster worse than anybody else, thats something you cannot categorically say to be true, you do not know that.

also, I WORK AT BLOCKBUSTER AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY ARE THE SAME! for one thing most applications i have seen have hollywood video on the top of them, you might try checking that, although it might be different there, and i will get prrof of you want and show you.

Muffy
07-04-2004, 03:49 PM
Oh snap, he told you.

droidguy1119
07-04-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by rosncranz
thats not the same thing, you are saying that they take care of the dvds at blockbuster worse than anybody else, thats something you cannot categorically say to be true, you do not know that.

also, I WORK AT BLOCKBUSTER AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY ARE THE SAME! for one thing most applications i have seen have hollywood video on the top of them, you might try checking that, although it might be different there, and i will get prrof of you want and show you.

Okay, well, what's the parent company?

And also, just because the stores both use UniCru for online application forms doesn't mean they're owned by the same company.

For one thing, if Blockbuster has paper applications at all, then they're unlike Hollywood Video. HV has a little electronic device you have to sit down at and fill out for 40 minutes in the store, or you can do it online.

And I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm saying this is a total revelation to me and I won't believe it until I see more definitive proof, because I would think I would have known that already.

Queen Arwen
07-04-2004, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by cg124
Some people just don't know how to take care of a CD

I know what you mean. Hollywood Video's pretty good, though...it's only happened to me 2x or 3x there.

rosncranz
07-04-2004, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by droidguy1119
Okay, well, what's the parent company?

And also, just because the stores both use UniCru for online application forms doesn't mean they're owned by the same company.

For one thing, if Blockbuster has paper applications at all, then they're unlike Hollywood Video. HV has a little electronic device you have to sit down at and fill out for 40 minutes in the store, or you can do it online.

And I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm saying this is a total revelation to me and I won't believe it until I see more definitive proof, because I would think I would have known that already.

ok droidguy i talked to my boss today and he told me that blockbuster and hollywood is the same, i know for a fact it is and i will get something that says it and scan and to prove it to you.

sniktawt
07-04-2004, 11:02 PM
Even if they are the same , Droid will probably still keep going to Hollywood , It's what he prefers , just like I like the Non chain stores cause they care about their customers more.

rosncranz
07-04-2004, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by sniktawt
Even if they are the same , Droid will probably still keep going to Hollywood , It's what he prefers , just like I like the Non chain stores cause they care about their customers more.

thats fine, and it wasnt the point. it is just annoying when people make such generalizations about a chain of stores saying that the entire thing is bad, it doesnt even make sense. plus almost all of our customers that is 67% are returning customers, when i say returning i mean come at least 2 times every month, we are obviously doing something right, sorry that you guys have had ****ty expreiences but i have been going to blockbusters for a long time and have only worked there for 6 months and i can say i have never had any complains that i didnt have with any other place.

sniktawt
07-04-2004, 11:11 PM
Oh , I have nothing against Blockbuster , They are Great when I do go there.
I just had 2 bad experiences that's all.

Just Myself
07-05-2004, 12:05 PM
I went to buy Pirates of the Caribbean at Wal*Mart and the ****ing disc was broken in half. I was so fricking pissed.

Another time we got A.I. from Netflix and the disc worked fine. I was so mad it worked for all two and a half hours.

Then we got Ocean's Eleven at Blockbuster. We got home and I went to watch the film. The dvd clearly said Ocean's Eleven, but it was ****ing Thirt3en Ghosts, another ****fest.

Just Myself
07-05-2004, 12:18 PM
Okay Ros, no offense but Hollywood and Blockbuster are two different companies. I have a Hollywood and a Blockbuster with half a mile of each other and I just got on the phone with both of them. They say they are two different companies. And either way Hollywood is by far better. You don't have to put up with that "Return by noon" buyll****, you get to keep EVERYTHING for five days, the discs are better quality and they won't charge you false late fees. One time at Blockbuster my family got Spy Kids 3 (for my friend's little sibs), Matchstick Men and The Missing. We returned them at midnight the night before they were due. So the week later I go to get School of Rock, and they tell my mom that last three were late. We told them we returned them the night before they were due and he told us that they weren't checked in until 8:00 the night after. So he let it slide and we waited while he called the guy who was on shift that night. Turns out the ****er took the dvd's to his house and watched them, then dropped them off late. We got three free dvd's and ******* got fired. Now, we're pureblood Hollywood people.

Take THAT!

Rizor
07-05-2004, 12:25 PM
I myself haven't really had a problem playing discs at my Blockbuster but I don't rent from them all too often.

starsprite
07-05-2004, 01:50 PM
Party on Garth.

droidguy1119
07-05-2004, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Just Myself
Okay Ros, no offense but Hollywood and Blockbuster are two different companies. I have a Hollywood and a Blockbuster with half a mile of each other and I just got on the phone with both of them. They say they are two different companies. And either way Hollywood is by far better. You don't have to put up with that "Return by noon" buyll****, you get to keep EVERYTHING for five days, the discs are better quality and they won't charge you false late fees. One time at Blockbuster my family got Spy Kids 3 (for my friend's little sibs), Matchstick Men and The Missing. We returned them at midnight the night before they were due. So the week later I go to get School of Rock, and they tell my mom that last three were late. We told them we returned them the night before they were due and he told us that they weren't checked in until 8:00 the night after. So he let it slide and we waited while he called the guy who was on shift that night. Turns out the ****er took the dvd's to his house and watched them, then dropped them off late. We got three free dvd's and ******* got fired. Now, we're pureblood Hollywood people.

Take THAT!

I figure the guy rosncranz is talking to heard unreliable information from someone they trusted and have been sharing it.

Meanwhile, at Hollywood Video, I saw one moment that probably wouldn't have happened if it was not a competing company -- a woman opened up her wallet and out falls a Blockbuster card. The Hollywood employee offers her a discount if she breaks it in half. She goes for it.

sniktawt
07-05-2004, 03:12 PM
I just called Blockbuster , they are 2 different Franchises.
They are not affliated with one another at all and the dude on the phone said whoever said they were affliated is on some serious drugs.

*Kelleigh*
07-05-2004, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by starsprite
Party on Garth.

Party on Wayne

droidguy1119
07-05-2004, 05:09 PM
You guys are backwards!

secant
07-05-2004, 05:38 PM
sniktawt, the manager of that Blockbuster sounds like a real *******. How do these people find jobs?

Retail chains... don't even get me started on Best Buy.

You know though, much as I love DVDs I wish VHS was easier to find. I really don't think I want VHS phased out. I have videos that have been around my house since I was a kid - over 20 years.... No matter how careful you are with DVDs and CD's, they tend to have problems after a while.

sniktawt
07-05-2004, 08:10 PM
I kept all my VHS'S for some reason I won't part with them either.

sniktawt
07-05-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by *Kelleigh*
Party on Wayne

Excellent!!!

rosncranz
07-05-2004, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by sniktawt
I just called Blockbuster , they are 2 different Franchises.
They are not affliated with one another at all and the dude on the phone said whoever said they were affliated is on some serious drugs.

i asked my boss as i said and i looked at some stuff and i can say without a doubt that they are the same, i will get something and scan it and prove it, i gaurantee that they are the same. also the blockbuster i work at we dont have late fees, after the movie is 7 days late they get charged 3 dollars though and after 14 days they get charged 25 for it and after that happens 4 times they cant rent anymore. and for the record i just brought home a game and it was scratched and didnt work lol. i will get the proof for the blockbuster/hollywood connection and scan it or whatever for you guys.

Just Myself
07-06-2004, 02:36 PM
Ok Roz you are really full of ****. I just went there and rented Butterfly Effect and asked them personally. The manager, who's been there for 10 years now, says they never have been affiliates so stop spreading your crap.

Ace
07-06-2004, 08:22 PM
Holy Potatoes, this never happened to me and I've to both Blockbuster AND Hollywood Video.

But I don't go to Blockbuster or Hollywood video anymore (unless i have coupons or a gift card)because they charge too much and I only go to a place called Omni Video where no such DVD accident has happened and they only charge $1.50 unlike Blcokbuster, who charges like 5 bucks

Boiiinng
07-07-2004, 12:43 PM
Blockbuster is now doing the Netflix thing, but you don't have to wait for snailmail to get your movies.

rosncranz
07-07-2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Just Myself
Ok Roz you are really full of ****. I just went there and rented Butterfly Effect and asked them personally. The manager, who's been there for 10 years now, says they never have been affiliates so stop spreading your crap.

yeah, you're wrong. when i work again i will get the proof.

Just Myself
07-07-2004, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by rosncranz
yeah, you're wrong. when i work again i will get the proof. Roz THERE IS NO PROOF IT WOULD ALREADY ****ING BE HERE. YOU'RE FULL OF SH.IT JUST ADMIT IT OK.

droidguy1119
07-07-2004, 04:31 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think rosncranz is lying to us, I think he just heard from someone he believes that Hollywood and Blockbuster are together. That person is probably, or at least seems to be wrong.

Don't go attacking his reputation. Calm down.

rosncranz
07-07-2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by droidguy1119
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think rosncranz is lying to us, I think he just heard from someone he believes that Hollywood and Blockbuster are together. That person is probably, or at least seems to be wrong.

Don't go attacking his reputation. Calm down.

thank you, also there are two people that have said they are the same that work there, and they are the two people that worked there since it opened several years ago, so they are the most reliable of those who work there, i will get the proof when i work again, which may be a bit considering i just had surgery, but i will get it.

droidguy1119
07-07-2004, 06:33 PM
What kind of proof was it? A memo? A letter?

Like I said before, I know both stores use the same application forms, but they are not affilliated.

rosncranz
07-07-2004, 09:53 PM
its a bunch of corporate paperwork, i grabbed one thing, it was manuel, but that only said hollywood and didnt say anything about blockbuster so it could be argued that i just work at hollywood.

droidguy1119
07-13-2004, 01:22 AM
I think this stands as the final word.

From: Hollywood Video Info Info@HollywoodVideo.com
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 3:36 PM
To: droidguy1119@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Question

Dear Tyler Foster,
Thank you for writing to us regarding Hollywood Video. Hollywood Video is
dedicated to providing exceptional guest experiences delivered with genuine
warmth and friendliness.

Hollywood Video and Game Crazy is owned by Hollywood Entertainment, which does
not own Blockbuster.

We appreciate your membership and if there is anything else we can do for you,
please do not hesitate to email us at: E-Mail-Us@hlyw.com or call our Guest
Relations department, toll free at 1-877-325-8687. We look forward to serving
you again.

Sincerely,
Mary Schafer
Guest Relations Agent
Hollywood Entertainment

>>> "Tyler Foster" <droidguy1119@hotmail.com> 07/05/04 01:26AM >>>
Dear Hollywood,
I was just curious, I can't find anything about it on either webpage. Is
Hollywood Video owned by the same parent company as Blockbuster Video?

Thanks,
Tyler Foster

rosncranz
07-13-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by droidguy1119
I think this stands as the final word.

From: Hollywood Video Info Info@HollywoodVideo.com
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 3:36 PM
To: droidguy1119@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Question

Dear Tyler Foster,
Thank you for writing to us regarding Hollywood Video. Hollywood Video is
dedicated to providing exceptional guest experiences delivered with genuine
warmth and friendliness.

Hollywood Video and Game Crazy is owned by Hollywood Entertainment, which does
not own Blockbuster.

We appreciate your membership and if there is anything else we can do for you,
please do not hesitate to email us at: E-Mail-Us@hlyw.com or call our Guest
Relations department, toll free at 1-877-325-8687. We look forward to serving
you again.

Sincerely,
Mary Schafer
Guest Relations Agent
Hollywood Entertainment

>>> "Tyler Foster" <droidguy1119@hotmail.com> 07/05/04 01:26AM >>>
Dear Hollywood,
I was just curious, I can't find anything about it on either webpage. Is
Hollywood Video owned by the same parent company as Blockbuster Video?

Thanks,
Tyler Foster

actually no thats not the final word, i dont have anything i can scan, but if you still want me to i can try to get something, but my bosses boss who is from corporate came in when i was working a few days ago and i asked him about it and he said that one of the first blockbusters there was was near a hollywood video and they bought it out, and that has been going on for awhile i guess, it is a sort of business venture where they are basically under the same person but are seperate business' what i think the reason for my confusion was that he said almost all hollywood videos around here are owned by the same person that owns the blockbusters around here, all of the ones that are not franchise. i think thats what made me think they were all the same, also i just found that blockbuster and horizon video are the same too, anyways i hope that clarifies a few things.

Chachi
07-13-2004, 12:56 PM
I am sorry but I find this wrong on so many levels. There are three statements that I find retarded. I will address them one at a time.

Firstly, one rental store can consistently have worst dvd's than another. It all depends on how store policy dictates the treatment of dvd's. They could have policies in place to prevent the scratching of dvd's. If your excuse was that they were one and the same company, existing in a parent and subsidiary relationship, that does not mean one company couldn't have better dvd's than another. I will use dewalt/black and decker as an example. As many people know, both of the companies make power tools(among other things). Over three years ago, Black and Decker bought out Dewalt in an attempt to become the #1 or #2 manufacturer of power tools. They are both made by the same company. Black and Decker chooses to sell an inferior product at a much cheaper cost with the company name on it. The Dewalt name is on their top of the line products in power tools. This comes from hands on experience and simply noticing the difference of a $150 cordless DeWalt drill and a $60 cordless Black and Decker (Firestorm) drill. As I have illustrated, being in the same company doesn't mean they offer the same product/service.

Secondly, they are not the same company. This comes from my hands on experience as a certified accountant. The entire public has every right to look at the financial statements of companies just by going to the SEC web site. Financial statements must include attachments and references to parent and subsidiary companies. Hollywood does not include Blockbuster and vise versa. If they do carry on a relationship they are breaking SEC, GAAP, GAAS, and any other financial overseers regulations mandates or laws. End of discussion.

Thridly, there is about a 99% chance that the owner of your cities Hollywood Video and Blockbuster are not the same person. When entering into an franchise agreement clause, one of the first stipulations is that you are not allowed to own a direct competitors franchise store. My cousin is a franchise owner of a McD's. He wanted to open a Long John Silvers across town. Not only do they sell different types of food but they would have been located across town. Which means there was minimal direct competition. He was not allowed to operate a Long John Silvers. Just imagine if it was a Burger King across the street. Corporate would have probably slapped him for being so stupid.

I rent at Hollywood (which is 100 feet away from Blockbuster). They treat me like Norm from Cheers when I walk in there. I found a previously used game from Blockbuster for sale for $25. I went over to Hollywood and asked them if they have it for sale. The manager looked up some information on how often the game was rented and thought they had to many copies already. He opened up all five of the copies they had on the shelf and let me choose the one in best shape. When I asked the price he said he would have to look it up on the computer and discount for how long ago they bought it. I told him before he could look it up that Blockbuster had it for $25. He looked at me and immediately said we can sell it for $22. I bought that game (FF 10) and now only got to Hollywood. If a company truly cares this much about customer service and has pride in its name value, I will keep giving them my business.

the elmo zombie
07-13-2004, 01:05 PM
chachi, wheres joenie????

anyways i go to hollywood video and have no problems

droidguy1119
07-13-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Chachi
Secondly, they are not the same company. This comes from my hands on experience as a certified accountant. The entire public has every right to look at the financial statements of companies just by going to the SEC web site. Financial statements must include attachments and references to parent and subsidiary companies. Hollywood does not include Blockbuster and vise versa. If they do carry on a relationship they are breaking SEC, GAAP, GAAS, and any other financial overseers regulations mandates or laws. End of discussion.

Yeah, I figured something like that applied, as well as the whole competing thing.

On top of that, I mean, what would the stockbrokers think? You invest in a company to see it do well, make money. When I was on the Hollywood and Blockbuster websites, I saw they had different stock symbols. If they're the same company, and they're competing, it just doesn't make sense.

IamMrDJ
07-13-2004, 03:08 PM
Ok, to put this to a rest Hollywood Video and Blockbuster are not the same company or owned by the same Parent Company. Below are links to the Hoovers.com Fact Sheets regarding each company. Both of the companies were started in seperate states and are publicly traded one on on the New York Stock Exchange and the other on the Nasdaq. They are both listed as one another competitors. NO where on the site which is one of the top websites for Company information does it list that they are connected to one another except that they are both part of Video Rental Business. Also, after a phone call to two good friends of mine one who is a manager at Blockbuster and another who is an assistant manager at Hollywood Video they both informed me that the two comapnies are not related or part of one giant company.

Blockbuster Video
http://www.hoovers.com/blockbuster/--ID__10218--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml

Hollywood Video
http://www.hoovers.com/hollywood-entertainment/--ID__16431--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml

D nyce
07-13-2004, 05:05 PM
That was the biggest waste of my time listening to that crap...anyways one time my mom got mad because she thought the dvd was scratched and turned off but really my dog hit the remote and turned it off so she just never saw the end. Now thats a good story! Sounds like you people are drunk!

Chachi
07-13-2004, 07:27 PM
Actually, it sounds like your mom is a drunk.:clown:

Sorry, I just had to.

MovieFreak322
07-13-2004, 08:22 PM
Yeah that same thing hapened to me when I rented Wrong Turn.

rosncranz
07-13-2004, 10:43 PM
ok i will get the ****ing proof! god, this is ridiculous.

IamMrDJ
07-13-2004, 11:20 PM
OK get your proof. But for now, as my sig says.

The Professor of Thuganomics has spoken. Take it for what it is worth.

PsychoMike
07-14-2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by rosncranz
ok i will get the ****ing proof! god, this is ridiculous.
Why is this ridiculous?
You stated on the first page:
Originally posted by rosncranz
.... , but hollywood video is blockbuster.

People have come with proof that they are not the sam including the best evidence of all.... SEC filings. Which if they are the same they would have the same stock symbols. Any subsidaries of a company trade under the parent company.

Hollywod Video is the #2 video rental store with Blockbuster #1.

It is possible that in your area Hollywood Video and Blockbuster each use the same staffing company to hire employes (and possible employ them). Or the stores are owned under a franchise that owns several rental places and my own both a Blockbuster and a Hollywood Video. In no way do either of these reasons mean they are the same company.

droidguy1119
07-14-2004, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by rosncranz
ok i will get the ****ing proof! god, this is ridiculous.

Dude...we all have highly credible proof that the fact you have is incorrect. Hollywood Video and Blockbuster are NOT the same company.

I doubt your proof is going to hold. Why doesn't any of this distinct, very clear, and detailed proof from all involved convince you that whatever you heard is incorrect?

Chachi
07-14-2004, 03:39 PM
bump. Where's the proof???

droidguy1119
07-14-2004, 03:40 PM
More than that, where's the beef?

PsychoMike
07-14-2004, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Chachi
bump. Where's the proof???
Atleast give him 24 hours to find this proof that will convince us they are the same company. Against all this evidence they aren't the same it has got to be hard to find proof that they are.

droidguy1119
07-14-2004, 03:45 PM
Yeah...I don't think he could possibly have anything that would make me believe that the Guest Relations Agent for Hollywood Video corporate offices doesn't know what he's talking about.

rosncranz
07-14-2004, 04:29 PM
if it is so easy to believe that the person who told me they are the same is wrong why is it so hard to believe yours is wrong?

droidguy1119
07-14-2004, 06:00 PM
Because we all talked to people deep within the company, and also we have reasons that this wouldn't work not just for Hollywood/Blockbuster, but for anything of the same sort, like a McDonald's/Burger King, or a ampm/7-11 or something like that.

After such a wildly reliable storm of proof against your one person, a guy who we don't know and can't verify is a trustworthy guy (or if his fact sources are reliable, I don't want to claim him a liar), I'm afraid the proof already posted is much easier to believe.

But maybe I'm wrong, and you are really a British kickbox...I mean, maybe Blockbuster and Hollywood are the same thing. But it seems very, very, very unlikely.

rosncranz
07-14-2004, 08:28 PM
Dear CSR,
Chairman and CEO, John F. Antioco owns not only the majority of the Blockbuster Video stores on the East Coast, but he also owns approximatley a third of the Hollywood Video stores in the east, which is why many of the memos, employee manuels, job applications etc. have both company names on them, and why other information does not. While specifics legally cannot be discussed here, I will say only that certain share holders are unwilling to merger and it is more profitible for them in its current situation. Thank you for your interest in the inner-workings of our corporation.


this was a fax i recieved several days after i wrote to the area manger who forwarded me to a man named mike roemer. note that this had the words "from the desk of roemer, mike" on the top of the page.

as i was posting this i was looking at the way it was worded in the e-mail you recieved and i think that is why you didnt get the answer i suspected you would.

droidguy1119
07-14-2004, 09:21 PM
Well, that does not mean the companies are affilliated.

But thanks for clearing things up.

IamMrDJ
07-14-2004, 09:32 PM
Droid you are right about the companies do not have to be affilliated if someone owns both of them. The father of one of my friends in HIgh School, owned a Car Dealership, Burger King, a Subway, a Wendy's and an expensive Italian Restaurant. Now I doubt all of those companies are affilliated.

rosncranz
07-14-2004, 10:11 PM
i was wrong when i said they were the same, but i clarified and said they were somehow related and was still called a liar. however i do realize you didnt droidguy, you handled it very tactfully.

droidguy1119
07-14-2004, 10:47 PM
Thank you. :)

PsychoMike
07-14-2004, 11:12 PM
Thank you rosncranz, you have done more than most people when they make a statement most disagree with.