Question about dead reckoning...

[JohnnyBgood]

I've been doing some recent searches on the fourth dead film on message boards and Dead fans seemed to think the revenue that Dawn of the dead makes at the box office will be channeled into a production of George A Romero's dead reckoning[sp?] film, is this true?

[spiderman_2k]

We can hope....

[mentiroso]

I doubt it. I am sure studios will think a remake of Day of the Dead is a better bet now that Dawn has done so well. Reckoning probably wont happen sadly. Well, maybe not with Romero at the helm. We can hope though.

[EvilDeadNDN]

I think it will, cause I think thats what romero was waiting for. I heard Romero was waiting to see if DOTD was going to do good to see if their was still a market in gruesome zombie movies.

I also heard that if DOTD did well that he himself figured he could get the funding he needs to make Dead Reckoning.

[mentiroso]

Yeah well Romero can think that all he wants but the studios have the last word and sadly most studios are retarded and would rather just make another remake than take a gamble on a whole new film. I hope they do Reckoning next but studios suck ass when it comes to picking good movies and ideas to go with.

Plus, if reckoning is made, I would rather see someone like Carpenter direct it that Romero. If the story line for Reckoning is what I keep reading online, Carpenter would pull it off better I think.

[Tony Montana]

Than he'll have to make his zombies run also...

[mentiroso]

True but I like the idea. Zombies running around like rabid dogs are more scary to me. I would have loved to have zombies like from Night of the living dead come back, I would kick some zombie ass. But you put those zombies from the remake of Dawn after me and I'd probably piss on myself and get eaten.

[jhuddy]

i would like to see dan o bannon do another zombie flick rotld is one of my all time favs , and i believe the first to make zombies run, zombies were full force tackleing people and tricking them to come it was ****ing greatttttttt lol
but i might be the only one to think this

[Snaga]

haha yeah i loved rotld

[Instinct]

Originally posted by mentiroso
Plus, if reckoning is made, I would rather see someone like Carpenter direct it that Romero. If the story line for Reckoning is what I keep reading online, Carpenter would pull it off better I think.

What have you been smoking?

[the elmo zombie]

omfg you should be gratful i dont know where you live cuz you just dissed on romero

[spiderman_2k]

Rather than his 4th film, IMO I would rather see George direct His vision of Day Of The Dead, the way he originall wrote it.

[FaceOff]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Rather than his 4th film, IMO I would rather see George direct His vision of Day Of The Dead, the way he originall wrote it.

Yes that would be something to see. But WOW!!! mentiroso how could you want John Carpentar to direct George Romeros next movie?

[spiderman_2k]

Carpenter lost his magic a long time ago (I know I have said that before on here)

[mentiroso]

Dont question my judgement! I know what is best for all of you! Dont make me get the belt!

[EvilDeadNDN]

what the hell was carpenters classic epic, Vampires.

oh yeah, it blew donkey.

(PS - Real Genius was a GREAT movie. I dig.)

[mentiroso]

Gee, you must be retarded if you cant think of a good carpenter movie.

Halloween
The Fog
Escape from New York
The Thing
Christine
Starman
Big Trouble in Little China
They Live

And so on and so on.

Romero hasnt done that much and especially nothing good lately (Dawn remake doesnt count!).
Carpenter has slowed down but he could do a better job with it. I dont care what you think because you are wrong and I am right.

Good day to you sir!

[spiderman_2k]

Carpenter hasnt done anything good lately either.

[mentiroso]

Yes but at least he keeps busy writing and composing and some directing. Romero does maybe 1 thing every 5 years. Take a look at all that Carpenter has done and compare it to Romero. As much as I like Romeros work, I think he is just not going to have his original touch. Carpenter could pull it off better.

And Vampires wasnt that bad, I liked it. Now Ghost of Mars did suck, but no one is perfect.

[Tony Montana]

The greatest thing Carpenter have ever made is Halloween theme!!! Greatest ****ing horror theme of all time!!! You dont have to know about the movie, you hear the theme and you get ****ing scared!!!

[l)arKnight.]

Well mentirso another person that makes movies like in 4-5 uears is like that guy who made Kill Bill forgot whats his name but started with a Q, but he made better movies then Carpenter

[mentiroso]

Yes, and all of his(QT) movies are good. You cant say the same hting for Romero. In fact, the last good thing he did was Day of Dead because everything else really sucked (including The Dark Half). Carpenter is solid. Could do this story better.

[CoanBread751]

Carpenter should stay away from zombies before he ruins another movie. Ill give him credit for Halloween, The Thing etc. But he hasnt made a good movie in so long. Romero is the zombie king and theres no way Carpenter could do it better.

[Instinct]

No one but Romero could do Romero's work right. I am a fan of Carpenter, the man's a legend. But saying Carpenter should direct Reckoning is lunacy, besides it will NEVER EVER happen, so.. quit your day dreaming. :p

[mentiroso]

Hey, if Romero knows whats best for his movie, he will hand over the reigns to someone who has actually done something in the past 10 years.

[spiderman_2k]

What about the major gap between Night and Dawn...11 Years he didnt do much in that time either and yet managed to come out with the greatest Zombie film ever.

[mentiroso]

Hey, I can see it happening once, maybe even twice but it has just been too long. I bet you $100 that if he does do Reckoning that no matter how much you want to like it, it will lack and it wont have the same feeling.

[spiderman_2k]

And what do you think will happen if Carpenter directs?
It will obvisouly not have the same feeling.

[mentiroso]

No, but I just have this feeling that if Romero chooses to direct this one, it will suck. I know if someone else takes control it will feel different but that doesnt mean it has to suck. I just dont think Romero has the directing skillz any more. I mean he has only done 3 good movies. Night, Dawn, and Day. The Dark Half sucked. So did Monkey Shines and Creepshow. And dont even get me started on "Oj Simpson Juice on the Loose".

[spiderman_2k]

3 good movies...That happen to be the definative and most influcencial 3 movies in the Zombie Genre.

[FaceOff]

We shouldn't even be talking about this. We know that Romero will be the only one to do it. Carpenter doesn't even know what a zombie is. The thing with the main man romero is that he stays away from cgi. Carpenter is the type that would make this movie into a cgi feast.

[mentiroso]

Yes, and the last one was almost 20 years ago. Now using imdb.com, it shows him as having directed 17 things. 2 have not been released so that leaves 15. 3 out of 15 isnt that great. 1 out of 5 is not good odds.
Let him write it, but let someone else direct.

[the elmo zombie]

Originally posted by mentiroso
No, but I just have this feeling that if Romero chooses to direct this one, it will suck. I know if someone else takes control it will feel different but that doesnt mean it has to suck. I just dont think Romero has the directing skillz any more. I mean he has only done 3 good movies. Night, Dawn, and Day. The Dark Half sucked. So did Monkey Shines and Creepshow. And dont even get me started on "Oj Simpson Juice on the Loose".

ok you just went on my hit list!!!!!:evil:
im coming to get you mentiroso!!!:evil:

[mentiroso]

Stop by and pick up Oj and bring him over too so we can find out if he really is on the loose ok?

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by mentiroso
Yes, and the last one was almost 20 years ago. Now using imdb.com, it shows him as having directed 17 things. 2 have not been released so that leaves 15. 3 out of 15 isnt that great. 1 out of 5 is not good odds.
Let him write it, but let someone else direct.

He is good when he sticks to his strengths.

The Zombie Genre is his strength.

[mentiroso]

Lets hope so. For the sake of the Zombies anyway.

[the elmo zombie]

Originally posted by mentiroso
Yes, and the last one was almost 20 years ago. Now using imdb.com, it shows him as having directed 17 things. 2 have not been released so that leaves 15. 3 out of 15 isnt that great. 1 out of 5 is not good odds.
Let him write it, but let someone else direct.

:evil:

[the elmo zombie]

i cant take this anymore:mad: :evil: :( !!!!!!!

[mentiroso]

Hey, I cant make up those numbers. And you cant argue that anything but the three Dead movies were good. So go make your devil smilies elsewhere.

[spiderman_2k]

And thats all that needs to be good for him to make a 4th.

He is obvisouly the best at them.

[the elmo zombie]

the creeapshow movies were great and romero is my idol so talk about your carpender crap elsewhere!!!!!:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[mentiroso]

Like I said. I am willing to bet that if he does do the fourth himself, it will not be good.
My opinion and I am sticking to it.

Now I am in no way saying Night, Dawn, and Day were not great. They are. Just dont have faith in Romero for a fourth film, not after 20 years.

[spiderman_2k]

And yet you have faith in Carpenter who has never directed a zombie movie to make it good?

[mentiroso]

Originally posted by the elmo zombie
the creeapshow movies were great and romero is my idol so talk about your carpender crap elsewhere!!!!!:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

And I could care less about your opinion, or if he is your idol.
Lets not forget that Carpenter also has an Academy Award under his belt, something Romero never even came close to with any of his movies.

[the elmo zombie]

wait and see my romero will do great things again.i have faith in him still after 20 years without.:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[mentiroso]

Yes. If Carpenter can bring to life Christine (I hated the book!) and make it scary, yes I belive he can make a zombie film work just as well.
Just because someone has never done a certain type of horror film doesnt mean they can not do it.
Hell Michael Myers was basically a zombie with a knife and he did pretty good with that.

[spiderman_2k]

Michael Myers was totally different to a zombie, he moved the same...thats where it ends...Zombies have to be shown thats the point, Michael Myers is scarier when he is in the shadows.

Is it not better than someone who has directed the ultimate Zombie trilogy directs another film than someone who has never directed a Zombie movie and also hasn't had a hit in quite a while either?

[mentiroso]

And just to clarify, I am not saying it has to be Carpenter, I would just like to see it happen with Carpenter. Bring in some new talent, someone else and I will be happy.

But then again, say some new fresh director gets to do it and it blows, we will never know if Romero still has it or not. The only way to find out really is to have Romero do it. If it sucks, oh well. If it doesnt, then I will write him a letter of apology for doubting him.

[the elmo zombie]

halloween and the dead films were one hell of movies but you must be smoking pot to compare them!!!michael and romero are nothing alike

[mentiroso]

I have more faith in Carpenter doing this well than I do with Romero. That is what I am saying. We all know Carpenter wont end up doing it so it honestly doesnt matter. I just think he could do it better. Now if this were 1995 and Romero wanted to do the 4th film I might be a little more supportive.

[spiderman_2k]

I just dont see the logic in how Carpenter could do a better job than the master of Zombie movies....

[the elmo zombie]

mentiroso should get banned for what he is saying!!!!!this is maddnes i tell you maddness!!!!!

[mentiroso]

Because the matser of zombie movies hasnt done **** in 20 years. Carpenter has at least kept busy.

You are basically saying that since Hank Aaron is the homerun king, that even after all these years he can come back to the game and still hit 40 homeruns a year. Nope, not going to happen.

But you take someone like Barry Bonds who is a little fresher than Aaron and you are going to get more hits that with Aaron.


Same thing with Romero and Carpenter. Romero hasnt even come up to bat in forever (and dont say Bruiser because it is horrible) while Carpenter has been busy at least playing the game.

[spiderman_2k]

Huh?

That is pysichal strength...A really bad comparison...

This is nothing do with with how strong they are but how passionate they are about the Genre...Romero is very passionate about his films and puts alot of effort into them, his best work is obvisouly the Dead Trilogy, Carpenter who actually has a similar hit/miss film ration to Romero may keep busy, but they are all duds...I would rather have 3 excellent made films than a flood of endless shoddy ones.

[mentiroso]

Only comparison I could think of.

And Carpenter has several good movies (more than Romero) under his belt and not just horror. Carpenter can do other things as well. Romero cant say that. Just because it is a zombie film doesnt mean Romero is the only one capable of pulling it off.

I mean the remake (Dawn) was damn good and Romero wasnt at the helm.

Someone else could and should make Reckoning. My opinion. I am going to bed but I will pick this conversation back up in the morning!

Good day to you sir!

[the elmo zombie]

you do not deserve to have that avatar!!!!!you are being rude to the man!!!!

[cg124]

romero defnietly should direct a 4th dead film, i think carpenter, should just settle down, and i don't think he could give justice to the dead movies

[spiderman_2k]

Romero doesnt need to do other things, As I have said, it is obvious where his strengths are and he should stick to them.

Yes the remake probably is good, but Carpenter did not do the remake....

Considering this will be the 4th chapter in the series and not a remake or anything like that, It is a whole new continuation and possible closing of the story for good, Romero should do it, It has always been his vision, and IMO he is the only one who can manipulate his own ideas to screen in such a way.

Reckoning could be handled by someone else, sure I would still see it, but IMO it would lack the same feel that Romero managed to create in the first 3...The '91 remake was good...Savini directed that, but IMO it was only good because Romero's influence had rubbed off on him during Dawn back in '78...Plus the fact that Romero worked very tightly on the script, and Savini is a similar director to Romero...But like I said, IMO it was because he used some of Romeros methods, which are the ultimate methods for Zombie movies.

But the idea of Carpenter directing Reckoning is really stupid....
I mean he does a similar hit/miss ratio like I have already said, plus the fact that he hasnt had a hit in quite a few years either, and Romero has the advantage of creating and sculpting this series.

[mentiroso]

Thats your opinion. But you know what they say about opinions.

But I know I am right, and that is all that really matters.

[spiderman_2k]

And I know I am right, and that's all that really matters to me.

[l)arKnight.]

I think Caprp's movies are just boring and not at all fun to whatch. I whatch Ghost of Mars and it suck... Saw his NEw Nightmare and it sucked.... HE sucks basically what i' trying to say. And to his movie GoM he tryed to put a zombie feel to it and it was dumb story.

[mentiroso]

Hey, like I said it wont ever happen. But Carpenter is the right choice to go with. Sometimes you guys just need to admit that you are wrong. No one will make fun of you or judge you because of it.

And if you think that The Thing, Big Trouble in Little China, Halloween, and Christine are boring you are a moron.

[spiderman_2k]

You still haven't properly explained why Carpenter is "The right choice"

[mentiroso]

Originally posted by mentiroso
And just to clarify, I am not saying it has to be Carpenter, I would just like to see it happen with Carpenter. Bring in some new talent, someone else and I will be happy.


Once again, I am not saying it has to be Carpenter. I just think this movie should have a feel like Escape from New York. A nice clean city and the outside walls should look just like Escape from New York. Carpenter could pull that off easy. The zombies are not that hard to do. Make them rabid like in the remake to Dawn and it will be a fine movie.

[JohnnyBgood]

mentiroso: I kind of understand what you are saying. Does time change a filmaker and his vision? In the case of Romero I will say no, but this has been true for other filmakers(I suppose Lucas is a good example, based on the prequels anyway) but for Romero the duration from now and then will have no effect if we based this on the time gap between the releases of Night and Dawn, which had about a ten year gap. but let me explain myself some more...

Carpenter is not really the prime choice and I don't think he can grasp the concept of the term "sequel" but he does splendidly at stand alone entries. if I were to judge Escape from LA, then I would conclude it was a rehash of Escape from New York, which isn't creative, is it? He's good at various sub gendres in horror, and sci-fi for that matter, and Im surprised he's never done a zombie film in his career. The closest I think he's ever come to doing one was in The Fog in fact(but that wasn't a zombie film anyway)...

I think it would be better if Romero helmed just for the fact he's good at taking satirical jabs at the current decade. I think I read he wanted to take the zombies as a kind of natural part of the world in the new film and parallel them to drug attics on the street looking for their fix(or in their case, flesh), and the thought of it is amusing yet disturbing at the same time. Also Romero, if I stand corrected, also wants a reflection of the post 9/11 era and I think that would be interesting as well.

Carpenter is great, but I don't think he would take these kind of things into consideration if he did happen to film Reckoning...usless you do, then by all means convince me.

[the elmo zombie]

Originally posted by l)arKnight.
I think Caprp's movies are just boring and not at all fun to whatch. I whatch Ghost of Mars and it suck... Saw his NEw Nightmare and it sucked.... HE sucks basically what i' trying to say. And to his movie GoM he tryed to put a zombie feel to it and it was dumb story.


im not trying to be rude but isnt new nightmare wes craven?:confused: