Return of the King Oscar/Awards thread

[Glordreen]

Since the award season is coming upon us and ROTK is the frontrunner in basically every award show there is, I created this thread for discussion on ROTK's chances at the awards this year.


Check out this new FYC poster, its simply amazing!!!



http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/9867.jpg


The poster was too big for the site, so here are the ones that wouldn't fit but are on the poster

Best Visual Effects
Best Costume Design

[adt100]

Yep, they're the 16 Academy Awards that ROTK will walk off with come the end of February 2004. :D

(BTW Glordreen, couldn't you have linked to the smaller pic from TORN. It's takes all day to come up on dial-up!)

[Glordreen]

I know, it took forever on mine, but I didnt know there was a smaller picture. I just went to the link when I saw it. I'll try fix it.

EDIT: Fixed

[Brock Landers]

I completely agree with all!

Especially BEST PICTURE, BEST DIRECTOR, BEST ACTOR(either Elijah or Viggo), BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR(Astin or McKellen)

[todd philip]

Originally posted by Brock Landers
I completely agree with all!

Especially BEST PICTURE, BEST DIRECTOR, BEST ACTOR(either Elijah or Viggo), BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR(Astin or McKellen)

how can you agree with that, the film has not come out yet, maybe the acting in rotk is awful ;)

[Glordreen]

It wont be. based on what we have seen, that thought does not even enter my mind. Although I believ that Sean Astin has the best chance at a nod.

[todd philip]

no, ian has the best chance!

[Glordreen]

I beg to differ. Sean Astin has probably the most jucy role in the film. But if it were up to me they both would be nomed.

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by todd philip
maybe the acting in rotk is awful ;)

BLASPHEMY!

**slaps Todd** ;)

[Rizor]

Originally posted by todd philip
no, ian has the best chance! I think the Academy screwed up twice already by not giving him the award. The first time he was beat out by that Italian goofball and the second defeat was alright, but I bet the mentality was that they'd have 2 more movies to nominate him for. In TTT, his character was barely there so hopefully he'll get a nomination for ROTK. I don't know about Sean though.

Of those possible nominations, we can probably take off Best Score, Makeup, and maybe even costumes for ROTK. The Academy's gotten stricter and this was why TTT wasn't nominated in those categories.

[FrankTheBunny]

If ROTK doesn't win Best Picture...we should declare war.

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by FrankTheBunny
If ROTK doesn't win Best Picture...we should declare war.

And if we win.....I call dibbs on England! ;)

[Glordreen]

Out of the Best Actor category, I think that Viggo has the best chance for a nod, but I dearly hope Elijah will get the nod. But once again if it were my way they would both be nomed.

[LOTRNUT04]

ROTK is going to clean out at this years oscars. The fools over there are going to finally wise up and vote on the actual best all-around movie.

[todd philip]

But your all forgeting the MOST IMPORTANT OSCAR!!!

the one that deserves an oscar the most is PETER JACKSON!!!

[LOTRNUT04]

its going to sweep, meaning recieve B.D. along w/ everything else :)

[FrankTheBunny]

Well considering how they've screwed LOTR the past two years...especially in 2001...when FOTR should've won over A Beautiful Mind...I don't know if we'll see ROTK getting anything. We can only hope.


If not, then we go to war! And whoever called dibbs on England can have it. ;)

[Glordreen]

Yes PJ is the moste deservivng out of everybody. But if you had too choose which award would you rather ROTK get: Best Pcture or Best Director for Peter Jackson?

Me, I think ROTK will get both this year, no doubt. But I would have ROTK get BP and not BD, rather than get BD and not BP. But like I said I think it will win both, without a doubt!

[FrankTheBunny]

I prefer Best Picture honestly. Give the best film the award it deserves, I feel.

[Glordreen]

Although I prefer ROTK getting BP over BD, Peter Jackson better win Best Director!

[todd philip]

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL72/1649803/3165322/38790048.jpg

heres a pic of pete winning his oscar! ;)

[LOTRNUT04]

i love it....!

[PsYkOoOoO]

it shld get both...i wonder if the academy watched the EEs...if they did they'll know how much effort the crew put into these films..

[Glordreen]

I've alwayls thought that.

[Queen Arwen]

I am amazed at the fact that the FYC poster includes Best Original Score since Howard Shore obviously incorporated previous themes and motifs from FOTR and TTT. But *shrugs* whatever. I agree with everything else. If not...*murderous look in her eyes*... Go Viggo and Elijah! It would be awesome for both of them to be nominated. After all, Queen Latifah and Catherine Zeta-Jones were both nominated for Best Supporting Actress! Hey, it could happen! :applaud:

[Kerry]

I think Elijah should receive some credit...after all....he has the MOST important role in the three films...and the change in his character and the way the ring is affecting him each moment is SO apparent....I really hope to see him as a nominee somewhere! So far, he has done a fantastic job!!

[PsYkOoOoO]

almost everyone in the trilogy did great jobs...viggo elijah sean and Ian...even miranda...

[Glordreen]

Yes everybody in the trilogy has done a fantastic job. Even the extras do a good job. Bottom line is, ROTK will sweep the oscars and nothing can stop it.

[timmy two shoes]

That picture is a beautiful image of the future event: Peter Jackson accepting the Oscar for best Pic. I cannot wait.

But really- the real genius is the metamorphosis of Frodo- such a central caracter can get boring in a trilogy (Neo certainly did), but Frodo is constantly reinvented as he goes through the stages of magnatism and obsession with the ring. IMHO: great performance on Elijah Woods's end. Still totally engaging.

In the words of Queen Arwen, [quote] Go Viggo and Elijah! [quote]

[DolAmroth]

I think in rotk sam will be better then frodo acting wise. I think Sean Astin should get an oscar.

[Glordreen]

Not only should ROTK sweep the Oscars it should sweep the Golden Globes as well. Any body know what ROTK is eligible for in the GG"s?

[PsYkOoOoO]

i think PJ will probably cry if he recieves an oscar

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i think PJ will probably cry if he recieves an oscar

I hope not. nearly every person who wins an oscar puts on a big show, cries and monas, and thanks everyone theyhave ever met. I would want him to graciously accept the award, say thank you to fans and "everybody who helped realize the films" or something, and then step down. I hate the long acceptance speeches, since the people who give them are full of themselves.

I think you all are forgetting that the Academy has screwed LOTR over twice now, when it deserved to win every award on the board both years. The Academy will likely give the Oscar to whomever they feel will make a liberal political statement in their acceptance speech, as they have been doing for years now. At least Billy Crystal is hosting, right?

I have low hopes for ROTK in the Oscars., even though it will undoibtedly be one of the best films ever made.

[Spyder2294]

nearly every person who wins an oscar puts on a big show, cries and monas, and thanks everyone theyhave ever met. . . . I hate the long acceptance speeches, since the people who give them are full of themselves.

Man, put yourself in their shoes. All the incredible amount of work - time and effort - blood, sweat and tears. Finally making your dream a reality on the screen, and then to be publicly recognized is absolutely HUGE. It's not all about your experience watching the awards show.

On the other hand, as far as awards themselves go, it is all about your experience. For me, Fellowship will always be best picture over Beautiful Mind. Ian McKellen will always be the best supporting actor. In fact, I personally don't really believe in awards anymore. No one can tell you what is best, you decide that for yourself.

[todd philip]

i think i'll cry if pete wins :)

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by Spyder2294
Man, put yourself in their shoes. All the incredible amount of work - time and effort - blood, sweat and tears.

Sure, but there are some people who do not put on a show like that. Chris Cooper, for example, during the most recent Oscars.

[PsYkOoOoO]

i think he wont put up a show and stuff..after all he's not those kinda guys...

[ILOVEKATIE]

Peter's Oscar for Best Director is in the bag, you'll see.
Now as for Best Pic, that I don't know......thats going to be decided once it's only competition comes out, Cold Mountain or atleast that's what people are saying, so far there has been mixed reviews for CM so thats good I guess.
I hope ROTK wins....it will be the FIRST time in Oscar history that a fantasy film wins and the third installment of a trilogy!
Thats going to be awesome.

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i think he wont put up a show and stuff..after all he's not those kinda guys...

I agree, he seems like the kind of person who knows that the people he needs to thank already know that he thanks them.

[PsYkOoOoO]

It has competition from The Last Samurai and Cold Mountain..I dont thing Master and Commander will get it..

[ReActor]

It still bugs me how you can have a film win "Best Picture" then the director of the best film doesn't win...I mean WTF is up with that. Surely for a film to be classed as the best film, it HAS to have the best director??

[ILOVEKATIE]

ReActor, I completely agree with you...those two awards go hand in hand, IMO. But whatever.

[Glordreen]

The only competition that ROTK has is Cold MOuntain and Mystic River. But those two really arent that big of a competition, so ROTK should take everything.

[The Moose]

Cold Mountain will be good, but not too great. as Glordreen said, ROTK will sweep them all

[obsessedwithsnl]

i really hope ROTK will sweep the oscars it really deserves it....i think the most competition the ROTK for BP will have is mystic river...cold mountain might...i hope it gets some acting awards especially sean...he's amazing as sam

[Macbane]

Originally posted by todd philip
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL72/1649803/3165322/38790048.jpg

heres a pic of pete winning his oscar! ;)

:lol: awesome pic Todd... but why's PJ holding a golden sex toy? ;)

[Rocksolidus]

Originally posted by Macbane
:lol: awesome pic Todd... but why's PJ holding a golden sex toy? ;)

and don't you think its strange to be holding a oscar behind your back like that?

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by Rocksolidus
and don't you think its strange to be holding a oscar behind your back like that?

The images in my head = :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by IceGambit
The images in my head = :eek: :eek: :eek:

LOL!

[Glordreen]

As for the Golden Globes, here is what I think ROTK will be nomed for

Best Picture Drama
Best Director
Best Actor in a Drama
Best Supporting Actor in a Drama
Best Original Score
Best Song
Best Screenplay

thats all that I know of as of categories, theres probably some more categories it is elligible for.

What I think it will win.

Best Picture Drama
Best Director
Best Original Score
Best Song

It could win Best Actor Drama and Supporting, but unlikely. It should though, most definatley.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by todd philip
i think i'll cry if pete wins :)

If Peter wins I know I will cry....


Justice!! Finally!!

LOTR needs some SERIOUS vindication!!!

[Glordreen]

true, and if it doesnt win, wait I can not think bad thoughts.

IT WILL WIN!!!! IT WILL WIN!!!!!! Really its going to win, no doubts here.

[Glordreen]

Justice should be done! So ROTK is going to win!

[Necross]

I will show my support as well. ROTK WILL SWEEP THE OSCARS. If not I am prepared, I already had an acre of land done over to look like the Amazon, we can put the Academy memebers in there and then hunt them like animals, It will be a good time.

[Glordreen]

Yes, then we can

*turns into Gollum*

"They are nice they are tender. Eat them, Eat them"

[Necross]

Never thought of that. Good idea! We can also cook up some with some nice taters!

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by Necross
we can put the Academy memebers in there and then hunt them like animals, It will be a good time.

That's my idea of fun. Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew...

Crunchable Academy memberses...

[Necross]

lol

[true fan11212]

See how it is very likely that ROTK will be my favorite film of the year, I hope it wins. However, I don't think its a lock to win. It has a good chance to win, but it has just as good a chance to lose. The Academy may never get over its bias. However, they may want to award LOTR as a whole, because it was a great accomplishment to make these films... Its fifty/fifthy right now. Until ROTK is announced as Best Picture on February 29, it could go either way.

[Spyder2294]

Actually I'm having a hard time thinking up competition, there haven't been that many phenomenal movies have there? Bet there'll be a bunch of obscure nominees. The Academy's way of saying, "We know movies better than you, so there." Aye caramba.

[The Moose]

small article on the front page on one of the papers here in NZ about some reporter talking briefly about his viewing of ROTK- he said he's sure it will be nominated, and stands a very good chance of winning

[Glordreen]

I think it stands the best chance of winning right now, and right up untill it wins.

[Isidien]

I can kind of see why they didn't give FOTR or TTT the awards it deserved but since ROTK is the last one its got to clean up, the last samarai looks good but it can't match LOTR

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by Spyder2294
Actually I'm having a hard time thinking up competition

Well, so far, this is how I myself view what it could possibly look like come February 29th:


The Last Samurai
Cold Mountain
Master and Commander: far side of the world
Whale Rider
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

this is just pure speculation on my part. I hope to God, Allah or even Superman that ROTK will seize Best Picture!

[LOTRNUT04]

the last samurai, mystic river and cold mountain are the only competition in my mind

[Isidien]

whats whale rider about?

[LOTRNUT04]

a whale rider, duh :)...a man who rides whales, pretty self explanetory IMO :)

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by Isidien
whats whale rider about?

The legend is that Paikea rode on the back of a whale and led his people to New Zealand. Since that time traditon has decreed that the first-born male descendant will become chief of the tribe. Then Pai is born...and she is a girl. She grows up within a close-knit village which retains the tribes tradtional spiritual relationship with the sea and their warrior values. Although loved by all, Pai faces rejection from her grandfather who is brokenhearted that there is no grandson to carry on the line. But Pai is indeed blessed with the spiritual and leadership qualities of her ancestors and, in her own way, struggles in a male-dominated world to prove herself to her grandfather, the chief, and win his respect. Then the community is forced to come together in order to save a pod of whales that is stranded on its beach. Pai's spiritual affinity with the whales and her courage finally proves that she is the true leader of her people.....

(courtesy of IMDB)

[Isidien]

do you think its competition for ROTK

[LOTRNUT04]

i doubt it, nothing can come close to ROTK. :)

But seriously, according to the oscar people, i think it will be nominated, giving rotk competition.

[Glordreen]

It is very unlikely that Whale Rider will even be nomed for Best Pic. I would bet money that it wont.

[Glordreen]

This was taken from an article about Ian Mckellen and ROTK.


As well as the premiere, Sir Ian said he was looking forward to catching up with friends and getting his first glimpse of the finished film.

"My agent saw it in Los Angeles and he called me up on the phone and he said, 'I've only got two words for you: best picture'."



:D :D :applaud: :applaud: :D :D

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by Glordreen
This was taken from an article about Ian Mckellen and ROTK.


As well as the premiere, Sir Ian said he was looking forward to catching up with friends and getting his first glimpse of the finished film.

"My agent saw it in Los Angeles and he called me up on the phone and he said, 'I've only got two words for you: best picture'."



:D :D :applaud: :applaud: :D :D

That's nice to hear, but the more hype surrounding this film and the more people demanding its Oscar victory then the less chance of the snooty Academy voters allowing it to happen. They won't want it to look as if they had crumbled under the weight of public expectation.:alien:

[Glordreen]

But if ROTK doesnt win adn everybody thinks it should. That just means that a small group of people say this is the best film of the year when the rest of the world thinks otherwise. Thats why the academy memeber should be shot. Anyways, I remeber a quote two years ago from one of the academy memebers saying "We are awaiting the last film to award the entire trilogy." Also everyone, including myself, agree that the academy awards are political. Well this time the polotics are in ROTK's favor.

[jpdill]

I personally doubt it'll win Best Picture...

And NONE of you have seen it, so don't say "Best Picture" yet. It would be cool if it did, but a part of me will say "It only won by default" because there are no other films out to compete with.

I personally think Big Fish/Master and Commander will be the main competitors.

HOWEVER, don't forget Peter Pan might (unexpectedly) be a bigger film in terms of acclaim. There's something about ROTK which has got me wanting to see it - but a part of me thinks it'll be a film that will have too much action, and not enough development. If that happened, it won't get all the Oscar attention.

I think ROTK has a chance with Best Picture, but that's it out of the major Awards... Not best acting or directing. I'd like for it to win Best Picture - that would add more pressure to future fantasy films and will make STAR WARS 3 a better film.

It does have a chance though i'd like Whale Rider/Big Fish/M&C to win [in the long run i will] however, as it feels more realistic and right.

I think the LOTR films have lost the quality from the first one - they're good, but they don't have the type of filmmaking i fell in love with from the first film. TTT seemed completely different to the first film, and i have a feeling this upcoming film will be alien to me.

My opinion - don't argue with it.

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by jpdill
[HOWEVER, don't forget Peter Pan might (unexpectedly) be a bigger film in terms of acclaim. There's something about ROTK which has got me wanting to see it - but a part of me thinks it'll be a film that will have too much action, and not enough development. If that happened, it won't get all the Oscar attention.

First of all Peter Pan will never be as big as ROTK, no way in hell. And yes ROTK will have more action than the first two, but these battles will be epic and they will have dramatic scenes in them. and Also ROTK has the more emotional/dramatic scenes than the first two. This film will win Best Picture.

[jpdill]

I'm gonna point and laugh if it doesn't...

[LOTRNUT04]

Originally posted by jpdill
I think the LOTR films have lost the quality from the first one - they're good, but they don't have the type of filmmaking i fell in love with from the first film. TTT seemed completely different to the first film, and i have a feeling this upcoming film will be alien to me.

My opinion - don't argue with it.

sorry, i have to argue with this. You say it lost the type of filmaking.....they were all filmed at the same time!!!! How can he lose his filmaking abilities when he did it in the manner he did it in?!!

[The Moose]

Ian McKellen's agent summed it all up in a phone call to Ian after seeing the final cut. "Best Picture"

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by Glordreen
This was taken from an article about Ian Mckellen and ROTK.


As well as the premiere, Sir Ian said he was looking forward to catching up with friends and getting his first glimpse of the finished film.

"My agent saw it in Los Angeles and he called me up on the phone and he said, 'I've only got two words for you: best picture'."

One word: AWESOME

[The Moose]

that article Glordreen mentioned was on the front of a paper today in NZ

[Glordreen]

Heres another snippet from the article.

Boyd saw the finished version only the day before: "Fantastic, it's amazing".

[Glordreen]

Tomorrow night are the first ROTK screenings for the DGA!

[RebelwithaCause]

Here's to all of them being nominated, and for 12, or more, to win, and beat Titanic! Now, since I was in need of a creative activity, being bored in class today, I wrote a poem of ROTK. Seeing as how the majority of you like that kind of stuff as well, well...here it is.

The road goes ever on and on,
down from the door where it began,
and so The Lord of the Rings will live,
down from the point where it began...

For it was a cold december long ago,
where we first ventured into a world unknown,
for some at least, for others no,
then the word of mouth spread phone to phone,

The award seasons came and screwed them out,
giving us talkbackers to talk about,
the way in which we should have won,
and yet still Opie's tale won the big one.

The next year came and pleased we were,
that our faithful friends in skin and fur,
had not changed so much but let us on,
a continuing adventure that was 2/3rds gone.

Yet again the Oscars f***** it up,
giving it to Cat, (synonym: a female pup)
and the movie itself, while partially good,
should not win, LOTR could.

And so another years gone by,
and there have been good tales,
while others pissed us off,
wanting to shoot at it with nails.

However here we are again,
no doubt ready to love,
the final chapter of this masterpiece,
that God sent from above.

So Oscar listen up,
stop f***** around,
Give the award to the one who deserves it,
or we'll pound you to the ground!

P.S. This is not in any way shape or form a threat, just a comment from an overly obsessive fan who has clearly lost his mind on this fantastic trilogy.

[IceGambit]

Bravo! Good poetry, and summing up all our feelings I think.

The new Newsweek magazine has a bit about the Oscar race this year they are projecting that the biggest competition to ROTK will be Eastwood's "Mystic River."

I actually wouldn't be surprised if the Academy picks MR just to piss ROTK fans off.

[Glordreen]

Very good poem!!

[RebelwithaCause]

Well now, for me, EverythingOscar.com has the best predictions. Last year, the dude did really well. Basically for me, Cold Mountain will be this years Gangs of New York, (basically meaning that they have to, but don't really want to), Mystic River is last years The Hours (Extremely well made film, and well recieved, but won't win anything). But see, as much as I wish for this film to win, you have to look back at 2001. Everyone, and I mean everyone, expected Ali to be the winner. When it ended up sucking, the Academy freaked. Award the hugest honor in film today to a fantasy film? Hell no! So they found A Beautiful Mind, a film that, while generally well recieved, was not Oscar worthy for the picture. The performances yes, but beyond that, eh. I have a feeling that may happen this year, but hey, I've still got hope.

[Glordreen]

Yes Hope! We all need this, for we must "embrace the power of the ring, or embrace our desruction"

[PsYkOoOoO]

hope for what...the academy having bigger brains?dont think so

[Glordreen]

true

[PsYkOoOoO]

they are all filled with ppl with puny brains like...(Refer to my avatar)

[Rocksolidus]

Originally posted by FrankTheBunny
If ROTK doesn't win Best Picture...we should declare war.

ummm, who exactly would we declare war on? it just doesn't make sense to kill masses of random people...or does it?? mwahahahahahahahaha

[Glordreen]

LOL!

We would declare war on the Academy members for their stupidity.

[todd philip]

Originally posted by Glordreen
LOL!

We would declare war on the Academy members for their stupidity.

INDEED

the academy is filled with IDIOTS

[The Moose]

anyone remember what Dom said when first saw a cut a few months ago? "It was like being dipped in electricity" and that was when it wasn't finished, so it must be splendid

[Sims17]

You have got to remember that none of the cast will say anything bad about the film, they will only praise it.
Can you imagine the cast members saying that the film is a parcel of crap? Now that would go down well

[PsYkOoOoO]

haha..yea..so i never really trusted what the cast said..i prefer seeing it for myself..

[ReActor]

Originally posted by Sims17
You have got to remember that none of the cast will say anything bad about the film, they will only praise it.
Can you imagine the cast members saying that the film is a parcel of crap? Now that would go down well

Very true - but that could be said about anyone reviewing anything. At the end of the day the only opinion that counts is yours. Far to many people are swayed by what other people think - unfortunately that's a reflection on society today.

Make up your own mind and stand by it.

[jeti]

Isn't it kind of pathetic of us to go on and on about how many oscars this thing is going to get? We haven't even seen it yet. And come on, who cares? Does it really matter what others will think of this film? This movie was made "by fans for the fans", and everyone else can just take it or leave it IMO. If the academy wants to distance themselves from the fantasy genre, then it makes no difference to me - I just want my ROTK.

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by jeti
Isn't it kind of pathetic of us to go on and on about how many oscars this thing is going to get? We haven't even seen it yet. And come on, who cares? Does it really matter what others will think of this film? This movie was made "by fans for the fans", and everyone else can just take it or leave it IMO. If the academy wants to distance themselves from the fantasy genre, then it makes no difference to me - I just want my ROTK.

I want the film to get the awards it deserves, just because I am a movie nut in general and I know which movies should be winners come Oscar time. It is almost never decided fairly.

[Smeagol]

Let's just hope the damn thing lives up to expectations. ;)

[Glordreen]

Today are the screenings of ROTK to the DGA (Directors Guild Association). Peter Jackson should win the award at the DGA's.

[Glordreen]

The National Board of Review Awards are December 3rd, marking the opening of the award season. I do not know if it is televised or not. But ususally the movie that wins Best Picture at this show is nomed for Best Pic at the Oscars. GO ROTK!!

[PsYkOoOoO]

pls...grow brains academy...grow brains!!!

[PsYkOoOoO]

Just read this over at newsweek

The Oscar Race: Ladies and Gents, Place Your Bets

With Academy Award nominations two months off, ‘Ring’ is a sure thing


NEWSWEEK

Dec. 1 issue — Historically speaking, “The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King” doesn’t stand a hobbit’s chance in Mordor of winning this year’s best-picture Oscar. No fantasy film has ever won, nor has the third part of a trilogy. (Gosh. Not even “The Godfather: Part III”?) And only two films that grossed more than $300 million domestically (“Forrest Gump” and “Titanic”) have snagged the top prize. The conventional wisdom is that if a film is too successful, voters think it’s already been rewarded—and the first two “Rings” installments have raked in more than $650 million combined. “People in this town get sick of a winner,” says one Academy member and longtime industry watcher. “They prefer underdogs.”

[Glordreen]

It will win.

[DolAmroth]

Other movies that could win best picture are Cold Mountain and Mistic river

[downflow311]

i've already stated my opinion on this many times in the other oscar thread we had, but i dont think ROTK will win anything but technical awards unfortunately.

[Glordreen]

I remeber arguing about this with you downflow, so I wont even start.

[downflow311]

thanks Glordreen. i hope im wrong though. i would love to see ROTK win best picture, and PJ win best director.

[Glordreen]

Read this!!!!!!!!!!! (probably already been posted somewhere)

What Moriaty had to say about ROTK
"It's amazing. It's better than you think it's going to be.
It is astonishing. There's a stretch in the middle where PJ hits an emotional crescendo that lasts almost an hour and a half... I don't think I've ever been so worked up in a movie. I didn't know if I should stay seated or jump up or what. It's preposterously great.
Take all the emotional power of the first film... and double it.
Take the battle intensity of the second one... and double it.
Then put them together.
I talked to three people at the DGA afterwards... all three are voting Academy members, and all three are guys who are part of major voting blocks. They all said the same thing: "There is no competition for that. There can't be."
And the crowd... a fairly blase industry crowd... went nuts. They applauded at least eight different scenes."

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[Brock Landers]

I'm still fuzzy on BP, but I got a good feeling we'll see Jackson pull of BEST DIRECTOR.....just my opinion though....

[downflow311]

it will probably spilt if anything. PJ-best director, Cold Mountain- best pic.

[Undome-Elenamin]

The movie better and i mean BETTER get at least one award if not i will personally screw the academy over. Okay so i haven't seen the movie yet but if you've seen the other two movies you know PJ will not give us less. ROTK is the most emotional book in the trilogy (IMO) and i think PJ will really do it justice.

As for the newsweek thing it goes on to say:

THE PARADOX is that Peter Jackson’s epic series is the underdog—a daring long shot taken years ago by New Line, which gave a $300 million-plus trilogy to a largely unproven director, putting the future of the indie studio in Jackson’s hands. “It was a truly gutsy, ballsy, old-Hollywood decision,” says one rival exec. “They took the biggest risk you could possibly take: financial ruin, shutting the f—-ing studio down.”
That backstory—as well as the quality of the films—has made “The Return of the King” the early front runner in the Oscar race, even before Academy members have seen it. “There’s an overwhelming affection for it in the industry,” the rival exec says. “So even though we tend not to root for one another, and we’re pushing our own movies, we’re actually rooting for it to win.” But it won’t be an easy race. With two months before the nominations are announced, the field is full of likely contenders. The Hollywood consensus is that Clint Eastwood’s “Mystic River” is the most certain second nominee. The third is Anthony Minghella’s “Cold Mountain.” Though Miramax hasn’t started screening the movie, it’s never a good idea to bet against Miramax heads Harvey and Bob Weinstein. “We’re all just followers in their little game,” says another rival studio source. “And I say that with a fond, and annoyed, tip of the hat.”

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Read this!!!!!!!!!!! (probably already been posted somewhere)

What Moriaty had to say about ROTK
"It's amazing. It's better than you think it's going to be.
It is astonishing. There's a stretch in the middle where PJ hits an emotional crescendo that lasts almost an hour and a half... I don't think I've ever been so worked up in a movie. I didn't know if I should stay seated or jump up or what. It's preposterously great.
Take all the emotional power of the first film... and double it.
Take the battle intensity of the second one... and double it.
Then put them together.
I talked to three people at the DGA afterwards... all three are voting Academy members, and all three are guys who are part of major voting blocks. They all said the same thing: "There is no competition for that. There can't be."
And the crowd... a fairly blase industry crowd... went nuts. They applauded at least eight different scenes."

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

yea thats been posted before..its the best review yet..

[Glordreen]

Golden Globes Preview

Heres a little snippet from the globes preview.

"Much has been written about how the Globes have struggled to escape the shadow of the Oscars, but the 2004 incarnation could mark a turning point for the event. Nomination ballots for the 76th Annual Academy Awards are due Jan. 17, meaning that when the Globes are handed out Jan. 25, they will have no bearing on subsequent Oscar races (though Globe nominees, to be announced Dec. 18, might be taken into account)."

and also

"As did its predecessors, the final installment in New Line's epic "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy -- "The Return of the King," directed by Peter Jackson -- is likely to garner a best picture nomination. For the "Rings" crew, it marks the end of a multiyear trek -- meaning that, however "Return" fares, the filmmakers can kick back at this year's Globes. "This year, we'll have a much greater chance to celebrate," producer Barrie M. Osborne says."

[FVD]

Wasn't Seabiscuit ever considered at one stage.

And as for Whale Rider being considered to be Oscar worthy I would certainly support that film since it is a NZ film after all. I still haven't seen it but I know I want to.

FVD.

[Glordreen]

Whale Rider wont be nomed for anything, the buzz has completely died. And as for Seabiscut, its buzz is nearly gone, it may get some noms but any wins is very unlikely.

[PsYkOoOoO]

I think The Last Samurai will be a competition..........wait.........nothing can stand in the way of ROTK......i take back my words..

[todd philip]

ROTK should win!

[Mirokai]

I also want that ROTK wins but with the Oscar we never know.

[Queen Arwen]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Read this!!!!!!!!!!! (probably already been posted somewhere)

What Moriaty had to say about ROTK
"It's amazing. It's better than you think it's going to be.
It is astonishing. There's a stretch in the middle where PJ hits an emotional crescendo that lasts almost an hour and a half... I don't think I've ever been so worked up in a movie. I didn't know if I should stay seated or jump up or what. It's preposterously great.
Take all the emotional power of the first film... and double it.
Take the battle intensity of the second one... and double it.
Then put them together.
I talked to three people at the DGA afterwards... all three are voting Academy members, and all three are guys who are part of major voting blocks. They all said the same thing: "There is no competition for that. There can't be."
And the crowd... a fairly blase industry crowd... went nuts. They applauded at least eight different scenes."

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Be a sweetie, Glordreen, and post a URL for those of us who have stacks of websites to look at!!! :) Thank you. And that review is BREATHTAKINGLY WONDERFUL!

[todd philip]

thats ****ING AWESOME Glordreen

[Glordreen]

I know! This film will blow everything else away, there is no stopping it!!!

[todd philip]

i'm so excitied to see this!

[tiff_t_t]

OhgodOhgodOhgodOhgod, I love Moriarty's little review! I feel like Homer looking out the window and Return of the King is a giant donut rolling down the street. That's exactly the kind of "review" I needed... spoiler-free and lovestruck!!! WHOO HOO!!

[todd philip]

tiff_t_t thats a very interesting way to put it! :D

[Glordreen]

I dont know if I announced this but the Golden Globe noms are announced on Dec 18. ROTK should at least get noms in Best Picture Drama and Best Director. It will probably get more than those two. It should win those also.

[KingKapalone]

I don't understand why last year the only 2 films nominated for makeup were Frida and Time Machine? Time Machine!! Come on!! IMO, TTT should have at least been nominated for costume and makeup. I mean look at all the detail in the armor. The golden sun was on the inside of Theoden's costume. No one does that!!

[Glordreen]

TT was ineligible for Makeup cause Fellowship won, but ibelieve ROTK is eligible. I dont know why it wasnt nomed for costumes, it should have won.

[LOTRNUT04]

that is really weird, they had the best costumes

[Glordreen]

I know, it doesnt make sense.

[LOTRNUT04]

anyone who has watched the appendices would know how much precision work is put into each and every costume.

[Glordreen]

Heres a new FYC poster with Gandalf.

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/10406.jpg

As you can see there is a difference in this poster than the one on the first page. It has Viggo, Elijah, Sean, and Sir Ian all in supporting. I could have sworn New Line officially said that the were campaigning Elijah and Viggo as lead. If this is true, then it will be very difficult for anyone of them to get a nom because the votes would split, but I dont think its true.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Heres a new FYC poster with Gandalf.

* S * N * I * P *

As you can see there is a difference in this poster than the one on the first page. It has Viggo, Elijah, Sean, and Sir Ian all in supporting. I could have sworn New Line officially said that the were campaigning Elijah and Viggo as lead. If this is true, then it will be very difficult for anyone of them to get a nom because the votes would split, but I dont think its true.

From all the current reviews I am reading... It sounds as though Sean Astin should get the nod for Best Actor!!

Not just Supporting Actor

[Samwise Gamwich]

I am so looking forward to 14 more days!!!!

[PsYkOoOoO]

i think he will get supporting actor..at the most

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i think he will get supporting actor..at the most

Have you been reading the reviews?

Not just Marty's either...

God I cannot wait to see this final part of The Masterpiece!

[todd philip]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i think he will get supporting actor..at the most

agree


the only ones who would get best STAR

would be

frodo

viggo

or

Ian

[Glordreen]

I agree, Sean Astin will be nomed for Supporting Actor. I do think its dumb to campaign 4 people in one category though. Although I do believe that they are all one supporting cast, they need to campaing Elijah and Viggo for leads (cause they are practically leads in this film) for a better chance at scoring at least one acting nom.

14 MORE DAYS UNTIL THE BEST MOVIE EVER!!!!

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Samwise Gamwich
Have you been reading the reviews?

Not just Marty's either...

God I cannot wait to see this final part of The Masterpiece!

yes he might be good but however no matter how good he is..he's still a supporting character

[Glordreen]

agreed, the only ones that can go lead are Elijah and Viggo.

[Glordreen]

ROTK has won the award for "Best Acting by an Ensemble"by the National Board of Review awards. Mystic River won best Film, but dont worry, the NBR's are nothing compared to any other award show, and are hardly even noticed by most awards people.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
yes he might be good but however no matter how good he is..he's still a supporting character

I understand the 'semantics' and the modern day roles as we understand them in the 'Hollywood' ilk....

But if Sean's performance matches Samwise in the book, He should be considered Lead Actor....

Just one man's Humble Opinion is all

[todd philip]

Originally posted by Glordreen
agreed, the only ones that can go lead are Elijah and Viggo.

maybe even Ian.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Ian was nominated for SUPPORTING ACTOR in 2002..dont think he will be nominated for lead actor...

[kylesmile]

From the reviews so far it looks as if Sean Astin has a good chance at getting the Supporting Actor nomination and possibly the win.

I really, really want ROTK to win Best Picture, and think it probably will, but Peter Jackson must win Best Director. He completely deserves it for all of the work he has done over the past 6 years.

[todd philip]

I wish he would, nobody beats Ian, imo.

Well maybe Ian Holms ;)

[todd philip]

Originally posted by kylesmile
From the reviews so far it looks as if Sean Astin has a good chance at getting the Supporting Actor nomination and possibly the win.

I really, really want ROTK to win Best Picture, and think it probably will, but Peter Jackson must win Best Director. He completely deserves it for all of the work he has done over the past 6 years. i agree

Nobody or Nothing deserves an oscar MORE then peter! He has put his heart and soul and so much more into these movies.

He has been working on them for nearly a decade!

[PsYkOoOoO]

i dont really care if ROTK wins best pic or not...well it'll be great if it wins...but if it doesnt im fine..i just hope that..like what Kylesmile said...PJ MUST win best director..the amount of effort he put into these 3 films...its just amazing...

[Necross]

Like I said earlier, we will hunt the academy members for sport if PJ doesn't win. Or we could just press their doorbells and run! MWHAHAHAHA!!! My evil plots never cease to amaze me! Seriously he better win.

[Glordreen]

that statement is also true if ROTK doesnt win Best Pic. It better win!!

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by Glordreen
ROTK has won the award for "Best Acting by an Ensemble"by the National Board of Review awards. Mystic River won best Film, but dont worry, the NBR's are nothing compared to any other award show, and are hardly even noticed by most awards people.

Actually, the fact that the NBR's completely ignored the film in the big categories suggests that they haven't seen a screening of it. Either that or they left it off just to spite PJ and New Line, since Miramax controls the NBR awards and New Line took the project over from Miramax.

I believe that Mystic River is the movie that will give ROTK the most hell at the Oscars.

[timmy two shoes]

I jsut hope that the fans and potential "yes" voters have not been hyped too soon on ROTK. And for the man who has been walking around Middle Earth for teh past 3 years, barefoot no less, I think Jackson is very deserving of the Oscar as well as best picture for his gem.

[Glordreen]

Heres a FYC poster for PJ

http://www.oscarwatch.com/FYC/images/peterjackson.jpg

[MovieWes]

Originally posted by IceGambit
Actually, the fact that the NBR's completely ignored the film in the big categories suggests that they haven't seen a screening of it. Either that or they left it off just to spite PJ and New Line, since Miramax controls the NBR awards and New Line took the project over from Miramax.

I believe that Mystic River is the movie that will give ROTK the most hell at the Oscars.

What do you mean the NBR hasn't seen a screening of it? It won the damn best ensemble award!

I think that the NBR just doesn't care about LOTR. I mean, the first two movies weren't on the list, so what made anyone expect ROTK to make it? I know I didn't.

And I agree that "Mystic River" is ROTK's biggest challenger. I don't think it will win because every year since 1996, the Oscar winner has been a success at the box office. "Mystic River" will be lucky to make $75 million at the box office.

[Glordreen]

I dont even think Mystic River will make it to 70 mil. But with the stupidity of the Academy, when predcting noms, you pretty much get rid of the box office.

[daveanator]

what about The Passion that movie looks soooo awesome i think that movie will win best picture:)

[Glordreen]

The Passion comes out next year, so it wont even be considered for the upcoming oscars.

[Glordreen]

New Line has revised there campaign, since the last time when they had Elijah, Viggo, Sean, and Ian all for supporting, its back to normal, except for one little thing.

Here is they way it stands as for Acting

BEST ACTOR Elijah Wood

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Sean Astin

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Ian McKellen

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Miranda Otto

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Liv Tyler


Wheres Viggo? See for yourself http://www.newlineawards.com/
There is some talk that he has pulled out of the race, simply beacuse he despises Award shows (I dont blame him). If this is true, It practically garuntees a nom for Sean Astin.

[PsYkOoOoO]

good on you viggo..hhaa

[Glordreen]

Exactly, I can totally see why he doesnt want to run, he hates the academy like us.

[PsYkOoOoO]

actually i dont hate the academy....yet....

[Glordreen]

Here is a new FYC poster for Best Adapted Screenplay, Kinda spoilerish dialouge-wise.

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/10692.jpg

[Gandollum]

Yeah, im guessing the quote is from the movie. Im wondering if Sam ever said that exact quote in the books. Does anyone have the books with them.

[Glordreen]

Im gonna go look, but I think those are actual lines from the book.

[Gandollum]

Yeah, im guessing that too. They're pushing for a best adapted screenplay nom, so they probably took the same line from the books.

[Glordreen]

I would think so to.

[PsYkOoOoO]

wow...i can just picture sam saying that scene in the movies..

[Necross]

I hope it wins most of them. I think it would be great if "Into the West" won best original song. I have been listening to that over and over. Of course I would prefer if anything for the other awards to be won, but that would still be cool.

[Glordreen]

I have just found out that Viggo infact has not dropped out the running for this years oscars. That was just an administration error on the newline award site. But instead of being back in the running for lead he is now going supporting leaving Elijah the only one being campaigned for lead. And now Sean, Viggo, and Ian are all being campaigned for supporting.

[downflow311]

i *highly* doubt ROTK wins any acting oscars. the best chance for LOTR to win an acting oscar was Ian Mckellan with FOTR, and he got ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Glordreen]

I think Viggo and Sean can both get in, but Sean has the best chance at winning.

[downflow311]

Sean Astin will not win an oscar. i will bet an extremely large sum of money on that. have you guys never watched an academy awards show or know nothing about the academy?

[downflow311]

its called a fanboy dream, its not realistic at all.

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by downflow311
Sean Astin will not win an oscar. i will bet an extremely large sum of money on that. have you guys never watched an academy awards show or know nothing about the academy?

I know just about everything there is about the Academy awards. All I am saying is out of the likely acting noms that ROTK may recieve Sean Astin has the best chance for a nom and the win. But the actually odds of Sean Astin winning is slim, although he should. It doesnt matter ROTK will take BP and BD.

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by Glordreen
out of the likely acting noms that ROTK may recieve Sean Astin has the best chance for a nom and the win. But the actually odds of Sean Astin winning is slim,

Um, didn't you just contradict yourself?

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

^^ yes... they did

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by IceGambit
Um, didn't you just contradict yourself?

No I didnt. Let me re-word it.

ROTK's best chance for a win in an acting category is Sean Astin in supporting, but those chances arent very good.

[LOTRNUT04]

^i think he has a pretty good chance, and ROTK is definetly going to win BP, BD.

[Glordreen]

I hope he wins, and he should. I have read that his preformance is the best of the year hands down. and yes ROTK will definately take BP and BD.

[Samwise Gamwich]

I will comment on 'Oscar Worthiness' only after I have seen ROTK at least twice so please do not expect an IMHO Review post about it until after the 18th... (19th is when I will do it)

[Rizor]

The Oscars are looking good this year. All these rave reviews may prove the Academy once and for all that fantasy does have a place among their winners.

It'd be cool if Astin got a nod and some reviews are saying Bernard Hill gives one hell of a performance too, so the more the merrier!

[adnamasevoltam]

i actually dont think that any actor in LOTR could ever be up for best actor b/c, even if there r more prominent characters...there arent any that hold enough screen time alone to get best actor...though i would love to see it in the supporting area...i dont know ther either b/c after seeing TLS this weekend, i think Wantabee will definitely get a nod and is, at this point, deserving of a win....but im sure some of the ROTK actors will pull off a worthy nomination performance...though i wont speculate....still 10 days to tell for sure...

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by Glordreen
ROTK's best chance for a win in an acting category is Sean Astin in supporting, but those chances arent very good.

Ah, thanks. I didn't understand the first time. But I completely agree.

[Glordreen]

And also, since Viggo is now running in supporting, Elijah's chances at a nod for Best Actor have just sky rocketed.

[Glordreen]

MCN (movie city news) has released its ranking for this years oscars, ROTK tops Best Picture and Director. take a look

http://www.moviecitynews.com/columnists/poland/2003_Oscar/031211_charts.html

[moviegeek]

who should win, sean or elijah??

[evenstar]

Id love to see sean win, though after the cast commetries I'm not too sure due to what his acceptance speech may be like.
Just have to wait till next week to make final judgement.

[Glordreen]

Bump, people are making other award threads when we have this one.

[Glordreen]

Okay, the Golden globe noms are announced a week from today, what do you think ROTK will be nomed for, this is what I think.

Best Picture Drama
Best Director
Best Supporting Actor
Best Screenplay
Best Original Score

I hope it wins all of those, but at the very least I want it to win

Best Picture Drama
Best Director

[Kashmir]

I would love to see ROTK win any of the big awards, but I would be very surprised if it did. And, you can just about count out any acting awards. The Academy just does not award fantasy films, other than for FX, costume, make-up, sound, etc. I hope I am wrong though, because it just isn't fair.

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by evenstar
Id love to see sean win, though after the cast commetries I'm not too sure due to what his acceptance speech may be like.
Just have to wait till next week to make final judgement.

True. He would probably go on and on, and put on a whole production about how much work it took to make the movies. Save it for the DVDs, Sean.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Glordreen
I hope he wins, and he should. I have read that his preformance is the best of the year hands down. and yes ROTK will definately take BP and BD.

Sean Penn will win best actor, thats pretty much in the bag.

[downflow311]

sounds to me like PJ will win best director, but ROTK will lose out on best picture. the multiple ending probelm that alot of people are having will seriously hurt its chances.

[downflow311]

Cold Mountain is getting alot of bad reviews so far, so that should help ROTK tremendously.

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by downflow311
Sean Penn will win best actor, thats pretty much in the bag.

I was talking about Sean Astin.

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by downflow311
Cold Mountain is getting alot of bad reviews so far, so that should help ROTK tremendously.

Yes that will help a lot. I saw the trailer for CM when I went and saw TLS, it looks like a horrible movie. It looks to have the feel of "been here before, next"

[downflow311]

thats exactly what i said! lol

[IceGambit]

Perhaps Cold Mountain will be this year's Shipping News - the one based on a well-regarded book that everyone thought would sweep awards but really sucked.

[Glordreen]

I think that will be the case, whatever happens, we know that ROTK can not be stopped.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by downflow311
Sean Penn will win best actor, thats pretty much in the bag.

yea its about time

[Queen Arwen]

You think so? I've been hearing a lot about him, and Mystic River intrigues me.

[PsYkOoOoO]

ive always thought that he's a great actor...

[The Moose]

there's no denying that he's damn good, but a good actor can only really shine when acting with other good actors

[Glordreen]

I do believe that Penn is destined to win best actor, but I thought Cruise did a better job in TLS.

[Warren]

Awards ROTK should be nominated for:

Best Picture
Best Director
Best Supporting Actor (Astin)
All Special Effects Awards
Best Adaoted Screenplay

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by Glordreen
I do believe that Penn is destined to win best actor, but I thought Cruise did a better job in TLS.

Sean Penn doesn't play the game, Tom Cruise does. There is your answer with regard to who is more likely to receive an Oscar.

[IceGambit]

Shouldn't Crowe be up for another statue for Master and Commander?

[Glordreen]

He might get the nom, but the win, is out of the questin, IMO.

[Glordreen]

There is a lot of Buzz for Ian Mckellen and Astin, I hope they dont off set and split the votes, but I still think Astin will get the nom.

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by Glordreen
He might get the nom, but the win, is out of the questin, IMO.

Ah, that's right, you didn't like Master and Commander. Still, he is one of Hollywood's it boys, and they owe him one from A Beautiful Mind.

[RebelwithaCause]

The race keeps getting curiouser and curiouser...

Top 10 Films of 2003 by the AFI
*American Splendor
*Finding Nemo
*The Human Stain
*In America
*The Last Samurai
*The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
*Lost in Translation
*Master and Commander
*Monster
*Mystic River

And Cold Mountain, Big Fish, House of Sand and Fog and Seabiscuit are nowhere to be found...hmm...

This is surprising to me. Now, I'm all for LOTR, (most definetely, lol), as well as Lost in Translation, In America, Mystic River and Finding Nemo. All of them seem to be very good films, and I really wish them good luck. Monster I really wanna see too, and kudos to that as well! American Splendor and Master & Commander I have not yet seen, so I'll pass judgement on them for a while. Human Stain really surprised me, but again I didn't see that, so no comment. I do however have a comment on Last Samurai. Very good movie, I enjoyed it, but Tom Cruise did not do it for me. Basically, the whole film rests upon that character, and I did not enjoy it because of him. He was extremely miscast, and I really cannot believe he is getting Oscar talk for this role. I cannot see it at all. But anyways, thats just my thoughts. They have the GG awards noms on Thursday, which I will really be looking forward to, and these AFI ones, or the winner at least, will be announced soon enough. Stay tuned to oscarwatch.com and everythingoscar.com, (both great sites!) for further details.

[Glordreen]

Globe noms announced in 3 days

[Glordreen]

Peter Jackson has won Best Director at the San Fransisco Film Critics awards!!!!!!!!!! (He also was the runner-up at the Boston film critics awards.)

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[The_Manipulator]

WOOH! Goody goody!!
That was BLOODY BRILIANT!

Just love the word bloody....don't you? :p

[FrodoLover]

Dont know if this was posted but...


NEW YORK - Normally a champion of arty, independent fare, the New York Film Critics Circle (news - web sites) on Monday chose "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" as the top film of 2003.

The three-hour-plus epic, which is the final part of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy based on J.R.R. Tolkien's fantasy novels, is a sweeping spectacle of computer-generated imagery — and it couldn't be more different from the rest of the films the group honored.

The critics group, composed of writers for the city's major newspapers and magazines, usually honors films that stand as an intellectual counterpoint to the Oscar voters' more traditional choices.

In 2002, the critics picked the '50s melodrama "Far From Heaven" as the best film; the Oscar went to the musical "Chicago." In 2001, David Lynch (news)'s "Mulholland Drive" was the group's choice for best film; the Academy Award went to Ron Howard (news)'s "A Beautiful Mind."

Tom O'Neil, author of "Movie Awards" and host of the awards handicapping Web site GoldDerby.com, said he was "totally stunned" by the group's choice for best picture.

"This pushes 'Lord of the Rings' to the Oscar forefront," he said. "The critics usually go for little indie movies. When they go for the blockbusters — 'The Silence of the Lambs' or 'Schindler's List' — they usually go all the way."

:applaud:

[The_Manipulator]

No I don't think so....
goody good Frodolover.
Hey Frodolover, do you love Frodo? Poor you then, he doesn't excist!!! :p Well...In my world, he does! :p :applaud:

[Glordreen]

Thanks for the news Frodolover. Thats great news!

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Thanks for the news Frodolover. Thats great news!

It sure is!!
:) :applaud:

[IceGambit]

Wow - this is good news. If the film can convince that cirlce of critics, then it is a pretty sure bet for the Oscars and Golden Globes.

ormally a champion of arty, independent fare

No joke. This is a major accomplushment for LOTR.

[Glordreen]

This is great and we are still very early in the awards season


ROTK award wins so far (major category wins)

-Best Picture (NYFCC)
-Best Director (San Fran Films Critics Awards)
-Best Ensemble (NBR)


And it is also on the AFI top ten, and the excellent reviews and raves keep pouring in. This is very good, and we are still extremely early in the awards season!!!!!!!

[Glordreen]

Let me just say this. "Things are now in motion that cannot be undone"

ROTK winning Best Picture at the NYFCC is amazing. the NYFCC is just as stubborn and stupid as the Academy, but they finally bow down to the deserving LOTR and awarded it Best Pic (which they should have done for FOTR and TTT also). This is the beginning of things to come, ROTK will rule them all, and critics and awards voters will bow down to the King.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Let me just say this. "Things are now in motion that cannot be undone"

ROTK winning Best Picture at the NYFCC is amazing. the NYFCC is just as stubborn and stupid as the Academy, but they finally bow down to the deserving LOTR and awarded it Best Pic (which they should have done for FOTR and TTT also). This is the beginning of things to come, ROTK will rule them all, and critics and awards voters will bow down to the King.

Let's all hope so

[RebelwithaCause]

Exactly. I am stunned by the New Yorker's giving it to them...just shocked, lol. But pleased...oh god am I pleased, lol...just 2 more days...it feels so far away....tommorrow is just going to drag forever...i can already feel it....lol. And then Wednesday comes, I dress up, I run to the theater, I watch the soon-to-be Best Picture, hopefully twice, and then sleep about 12 or so that night. Then, I have to wake up in the morning, watch to see what gets nominated at the GG's, and then see the movie later on that night. Oh I can't wait...oh god I can't wait.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by RebelwithaCause
Exactly. I am stunned by the New Yorker's giving it to them...just shocked, lol. But pleased...oh god am I pleased, lol...just 2 more days...it feels so far away....tommorrow is just going to drag forever...i can already feel it....lol. And then Wednesday comes, I dress up, I run to the theater, I watch the soon-to-be Best Picture, hopefully twice, and then sleep about 12 or so that night. Then, I have to wake up in the morning, watch to see what gets nominated at the GG's, and then see the movie later on that night. Oh I can't wait...oh god I can't wait.

I think we all need a mass prescription for Valium!!!
Something to calm us all because I guarantee... Most of us feel this very same way!

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by Samwise Gamwich
I think we all need a mass prescription for Valium!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is very true. Next thing you know, Anthony Minghella himself will present the best director award to Jackson.

[Glordreen]

Really guys, ROTK winning Best Picture at the NYFCC pratically garuntees it will win Best Picture at the Oscars.

[Glordreen]

Also, the NYFCC has never awarded a fantasy Best Pic until now.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by IceGambit
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is very true. Next thing you know, Anthony Minghella himself will present the best director award to Jackson.

Now THAT would indeed be poetic justice!!

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Really guys, ROTK winning Best Picture at the NYFCC pratically garuntees it will win Best Picture at the Oscars.

That indeed is a very good sign...
(Have you all figured out I am VERY distrustful of the Academy?)

[RebelwithaCause]

Seriously, lol....

oh, this reminds me...I found this also very interesting...upon reading some of these reviews by some of these critic dudes, like for example, this man....

Daily Mirror: "So, as the much-hyped production is released simultaneously around the world today, is it worth all the fuss? Was I bored by the Rings, or awed by the Rings.

"Well, both, to be honest. For the first hour of nerdy Tolkien talk as the saga crept along at a snail's pace, I glanced at my watch. But when this cinematic juggernaut kicks into action, boy does the audience gets its money's worth.

"Will Jackson at last win an Oscar for this towering achievement? No ifs. No buts. The answer is unequivocally yes. And about time too."

Notice how the dude says Nerdy...lately, I've been hearing that word a lot lately....and, ya know what, I'm a geek, and I'm proud of it, and I flaunt it...but for these dudes who makes their living watching films and such, and then actually talk in a derogatory term about "nerdy Tolkien"....i donno, pisses me off...but eh, what can you do? Plus, its less than 2 days before I get to see this film...this isn't a time for hate, its a time for love, lol.

[Glordreen]

In 2 more days we will witness the greatest film of all time, and then the day after that we get to see what Globes it will win (actually the noms, but hey, we know its gonna win). 2 more freakin days, that like 48 hours!!

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

What if we had to choose???

I mean what if ROTK could only be given either BEST PICTURE or BEST DIRECTOR.

It is true no matter which one, PJ would get the golden statue, but with BEST PICTURE he would have to share it. With best director, it would be all PJ.

I myself would choose BEST PICTURE because, that would mean Fran Walsh and Phllippa Boyens two lovely ladies would get oscar gold along with PJ. They worked so hard, as did PJ and let's not forget Barrie Osbourne.

[ILOVEKATIE]

I'm so happy ROTK won the NYFCC award for Best Pic, it's so freakin incredible!
:applaud:

I will say Best Pic too Jedi,. because its the collaboration of all of them that made this what it is.

[Queen Arwen]

When I read that stunning development on TORn, I could not believe my eyes! The NYFCC actually gave it to ROTK? I felt as though the rug had been pulled right under me! But it was a great surprise!!! I can't wait anymore! And I didn't even know that the GG noms were being announced on Thursday! Goody, goody, goody! :applaud: I'm just a tad bit incoherent today. He he. And AFI?!?! That was SOOOOO amazing! I can't wait!!!

[IceGambit]

I would choose Best Picture too. Best Picture is the award that is remembered. I figure the Best Picture award honors everything about the movie, even if it doesn't earn all the categorically specific awards like we want it to. With Best Picture, you award not only the director, but the design team, the post-pro, and the acting.

[RebelwithaCause]

Yeah, Best Pic. I mean, hell, they deserve both, but yeah, Best Picture would win him an award, as well as the film. Today more critics societies released noms....Pete and the film were nominated, as well as for tech noms...i'm still kinda getting pissed that there are no acting noms, but hey, Johnny Depp is nominated for Pirates of The Caribbean, so I guess we can't have everything now can we? But at least he got nom'd....if him and the cast of LOTR had been left out...oh...there would have been hell to pay.

[Glordreen]

I have just found out that ROTK has recieved 8 noms at the Golden Satellite awards.

Best Picture Drama
Best Film Editing
Best Original Score
Best Cinematography
Best Visuall Effects
Best Art Direction
Best Costume Design
Best Sound

Although that is very good, Peter Jackson was not nomed for Best Director, however this is only the Golden Satellite awards.

Also the BFCA's havve announced their noms, here is what ROTK has been nomed for.

Best Picture
Best Director
Best Acting Ensemble
Best Composer

the BFCA's also are another very small critic award show, so dont worry about them too much, but the more ROTK wins the better.

[downflow311]

after seeing ROTK, i firmly stand by what i've been saying. no way it wins best picture, its just too problematic. PJ is relying on the EE too much to fill in his plot holes in the TC.

[Glordreen]

You have no hope because everything is aggainst it, but cant you see, thats why the academy will give it Best Picture, and of course because it deserves it.

[downflow311]

one thing ROTK defintely has in the bag is best VFX though!:)

[adnamasevoltam]

i dont think that ROTK was very problematic, no matter what anyone says. the only way it can even be said it is problematic, IMO, is if u have read the books and know the holes that are left. my g/f saw it w/me and she hasnt read the books, only watched the movies. she thought it was the best pic shes seen this year, followed it all well enough, etc. so i really dont understand the whole "problematic" concept. i think it should get best pic, director (though pic over director), possibly supporting actor for Mr. Astin, and a few others. i also dont think that it has VFX in the bag as, IMO, nothing was done here to push it beyond matrix, which was utterly stunning FX-wise as well.

[downflow311]

^i agree with you on the problematic thing, because alot of things i wanted to see where in the books but not in the movie, which the EE will fix. but i *highly* disagree about the Matrix having better FX.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Yeah I agree with Downflow about the VFX, Matrix effects are too sci-fi I know it is a sci-fi type film but I mean the Sentinels and everything all look out of place, and during CGI character shots they look too much like a game whereas the LOTR CGI character shots look great... take ROTK for example, especially the scene where Legolas is on the side of the Mumakil clinging on by its harness on its back leg, great VFX Legolas

[ILOVEKATIE]

The effects in this film are jaw-dropping, there are images that I will never forget, its so grand in scale.

[southern]

ROTK better be going home with Best Director, Picture, Supporting Actor, Special Effects, Make-up (even with potato-head chief) for starters

[Glordreen]

Globe noms tomorrow morning at 5:30am

[ILOVEKATIE]

Originally posted by southern
ROTK better be going home with Best Director, Picture, Supporting Actor, Special Effects, Make-up (even with potato-head chief) for starters
I'm cool with that.:D

[Glordreen]

The Golden Globe noms are here!

Picture - Drama
Cold Mountain
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Mystic River
Seabiscuit

Picture - Musical/Comedy
Bend it like Beckham
Big Fish
Finding Nemo
Lost in Translation
Love Actually

Director
Sofia Coppola, Lost in Translation
Clint Eastwood, Mystic River
Peter Jackson, ROTK
Anthony Minghella, Cold Mountain
Peter Weir, Master and Commander

Actor - Drama
Russell Crowe, Master and Commander
Tom Cruise, Last Samurai
Ben Kingsley, House of Sand and Fog
Jude Law, Cold Mountain
Sean Penn, Mystic River

Actor - Musical/Comedy
Jack Black, School of Rock
Johnny Depp, Pirates
Bill Murray, Lost in Translation
Jack Nicholson, Something's Gotta Give
Billy Bob Thornton, Bad Santa

Actress - Drama
Cate Blanchett, Veronica Guerin
Nicole Kidman, Cold Mountain
Scarlett Johansson, Girl with Pearl Earring
Charlize Theron, Monster
Uma Thurman, Kill Bill
Evan Rachel Wood, Thirteen

Actress - Musical/Comedy
Jamie Lee Curtis
Scarlett Johasson
Diane Keaton
Diane Lane
Helen Mirren

Supporting Actor
Alec Baldwin, The Cooler
Albert Finney, Big Fish
William H. Macy, Seabiscuit
Tim Robbins, Mystic River
Peter Sarsgaard, Shattered Glass
Ken Watanabe, The Last Samurai

Supporting Actress
Maria Bello, The Cooler
Patricia Clarkson, Pieces of April
Hope Davis, American Splendor
Holly Hunter, Thirteen
Renee Zellweger, Cold Mountain

Screenplay
Lost in Translation
Love Actually
Mystic River
Cold Mountain
In America

Foreign Film
Brbarian invasions
Goodbye Lenin
Osama
The Return
(France)

Score
Girl With A Pearl Earring
Big Fish
ROTK
Cold Mountain
Last Samurai

Song
Mona Lisa Smile
ROTK
Big Fish
In America
Cold Mountain

ROTK has scored 4 noms, equallying that of FOTR.