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soulassassin
11-22-2003, 03:48 AM
Is Lord of the Rings: Return of The King worth watching??

I found the first movie sooooo booorriiing, the second was a little bit better n i hear that the last one will be inching past the 3 hr mark which is what i fear.

LOTRNUT04
11-22-2003, 03:54 AM
are you insane, the ttt and fotr could have been longer in my opinion. A 3 hr 20 min movie is perfect, especially for the finale

The Moose
11-22-2003, 03:55 AM
ROTK is 3 hrs 12 mins, as far as i know, but it does have a much bigger battle, and there's alot more action in it

LOTRNUT04
11-22-2003, 03:58 AM
hopefully rotk ee will be close to, if not past, the 4hr mark...2 2hr disks...ahhhhhh yes!

KenM
11-22-2003, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
hopefully rotk ee will be close to, if not past, the 4hr mark...2 2hr disks...ahhhhhh yes!

Rumor is they will be adding an extra HOUR to RotK EE :D

adt100
11-22-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by The Moose
ROTK is 3 hrs 12 mins, as far as i know, but it does have a much bigger battle, and there's alot more action in it

Technically speaking it will be classified as 3hr20, but if you can't manage to hold your attention for that length, I suggest a film like Elf might be more to your liking. :rolleyes:

adt100
11-22-2003, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by KenM
Rumor is they will be adding an extra HOUR to RotK EE :D

That would be you're own 'rumour' I presume. ;)

southern
11-22-2003, 11:03 AM
to answer if it will be too long...........no!

downflow311
11-22-2003, 11:09 AM
i agree with adt. go see elf or cat in the hat. those movies are around 80 minutes maybe they will be more to your liking.

like it even matters, you know your going to go see it anyway. everyone is going to see this movie.

PsYkOoOoO
11-22-2003, 11:28 AM
lotr is never too long...it's always too short

obsessedwithsnl
11-22-2003, 11:57 AM
there's never too much LOTR

adt100
11-22-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
lotr is never too long...it's always too short

True, very true. :D

downflow311
11-22-2003, 12:56 PM
i think this guy is gong to have to go see some no-brainer action flick. i suggest charlies angels 2 or bad boys 2.

downflow311
11-22-2003, 12:57 PM
those movies kick major ass!!!!!

PsYkOoOoO
11-22-2003, 01:21 PM
In fact it gets shorter everytime...:):D

LOTRNUT04
11-22-2003, 03:26 PM
if there is an extra hour for the EE, ill be in heaven

LOTRNUT04
11-22-2003, 03:27 PM
score is 8-1, 8 saying it cant be too long, 1 saying it will be long and boring.

Glordreen
11-22-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by soulassassin
Is Lord of the Rings: Return of The King worth watching??

I found the first movie sooooo booorriiing, the second was a little bit better n i hear that the last one will be inching past the 3 hr mark which is what i fear.

If you found the first movie boring than you not a LOTR fan and you cant tell a masterpiece when you seen one. The first two films are the best films ever made. And ROTK will be no different, and after all the casts comments on the film. I believe that ROTK will be the best film ever created.

Samwise Gamwich
11-22-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by The Moose
ROTK is 3 hrs 12 mins, as far as i know, but it does have a much bigger battle, and there's alot more action in it

The IMDB says ROTK runtime is 210 minutes...

3 and 1/2 hours....

Glordreen
11-22-2003, 04:26 PM
I dont think there is an actual official running time yet.

Samwise Gamwich
11-22-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Glordreen
I dont think there is an actual official running time yet.

Then why is IMDB reporting this?

adt100
11-22-2003, 04:47 PM
I think some people put far to much credence in IMDB. We know that when it comes to cast lists and other details (pre-release) it usually not official, but just a best guess.

The running time is (give or take) 3hr and 20 minutes. If it's not then you can come round to my house and slap my face with a wet kipper and I'll eat my hat at the same time!

The 3.5hr figure was simply a rumour based on a 'maximum' time that came about a month or so ago.

DolAmroth
11-22-2003, 04:49 PM
I thought ROTK is gunna be 3.5 hours long

Glordreen
11-22-2003, 05:21 PM
I hope it is.

The Moose
11-22-2003, 05:23 PM
nope, 3 hrs 20 has been confirmed

FrankTheBunny
11-22-2003, 10:57 PM
As long as its over 3 hrs, I'll be happy. The EE is gonna be over 4 hrs anyways, it doesn't matter.

soulassassin
11-23-2003, 01:10 AM
I think this guy is gong to have to go see some no-brainer action flick. i suggest charlies angels 2 or bad boys 2.[B]
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Well, the Lord of the Rings movies doesn't even require to use your brain like the Matrix films, so does that mean LOTR is a no-brainer film? It's so easy to understand the movie, let alone if you have read the book. The whole movie feels more like a 'Once Upon a time' fairytale story aimed at young ones rather than an epic. You wanna see a truly epic movie then the movie "Troy" is the movie to see which comes out next yr. I hear that movie is gonna have the biggest battle scenes of epic proportions ever even bigger than Braveheart n TTT.

Anyway apart from some good action scenes there really is nothing else in this movie to get me that intrigued and entertained. I dunno bout u guys but the Matrix edges it out for me n i reckon it has much better special effects and is really a brain-teaser movie that you have to watch at least twice to fully understand. And its a movie that this society can relate to in different ways. I'm disappointed to say but the starwars movies especially Episode 2 was much more entertaining to watch than LOTR. I just hope ROTK won't be as long you guys suggest otherwise i might as well bring a pillow.



























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adt100
11-23-2003, 05:07 AM
I do wonder how many films soulassassin is seen in his obviously short life.

Having opinions on what films you like and dislike and debating this is what these boards are all about, but some of your coments are just plain baffling in every resepect.

PsYkOoOoO
11-23-2003, 07:00 AM
cant blame him...maybe he saw looong lousy films like pearl hearbor and bad boyz 2?

Madskillz
11-23-2003, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by soulassassin
"Troy" is the movie to see which comes out next yr. I hear that movie is gonna have the biggest battle scenes of epic proportions ever even bigger than Braveheart n TTT.

the Matrix edges it out for me n i reckon it has much better special effects and is really a brain-teaser movie that you have to watch at least twice to fully understand. And its a movie that this society can relate to in different ways. I'm disappointed to say but the starwars movies especially Episode 2 was much more entertaining to watch than LOTR. I just hope ROTK won't be as long you guys suggest otherwise i might as well bring a pillow.
First off Troy looks to be a good movie but ROTK so far will have the greatest battle scenes than any movie seen or coming soon. Second, special effects is not what lotr is about and its not the main thing that sells the movie. And society can't relate to good vs evil in lotr? its the #1 thing society deals with... lol Yeah the movie will be long but it will go like a breeze because so many things will be happening in ROTK right from the start.... no time to chat and if you read the books you know the movie wasn't long enough

PsYkOoOoO
11-23-2003, 08:29 AM
exactly...how do u relate to humans destroying computerS?ermm..i dont exactly see the link...

Necross
11-23-2003, 02:26 PM
I liked all The Matrix movies and I think Troy does look rather good, but no matter what ROTK will beat the snot out of them. As for no brainer well thats stupid. Lotr has an epic stroyline. The Matrix really didn't get me thinking that much (I still loved the movies), but all the mind boggling parts were basically this.

Oracle: "Its a choice you have to make"

Neo: "Do you know what is going to happen."

Oracle:"Maybe I do maybe I don't...I just feel like trying to make the story line more complicated than it really is. I am just allowing for fanboys to make up their own theories and put them out to the world as fact."

Neo:"So....do you know?"

Oracle: "Maybe I do maybe I don't....I just feel like tryi..."

Neo:"Ok ok, I will just go and kill Smith and see what happens."

Necross
11-23-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
exactly...how do u relate to humans destroying computerS?ermm..i dont exactly see the link...

Exactly. Lotr gets me on a much more emotional lvl. Not that I didn't feel for the Characters in the matrix, but I just feel more emotion from the Lotr characters even though its out of this world fantasy.

adt100
11-23-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Necross
... all the mind boggling parts were basically this.

Oracle: "Its a choice you have to make"

Neo: "Do you know what is going to happen."

Oracle:"Maybe I do maybe I don't...I just feel like trying to make the story line more complicated than it really is. I am just allowing for fanboys to make up their own theories and put them out to the world as fact."

Neo:"So....do you know?"

Oracle: "Maybe I do maybe I don't....I just feel like tryi..."

Neo:"Ok ok, I will just go and kill Smith and see what happens."

:lol: Yes, that pretty much sums it up.

Necross
11-23-2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by adt100
:lol: Yes, that pretty much sums it up.

Thank you, I hoped someone would agree. I still like the Matrix though, but Lotr is the best book and movie trilogy ever.

Mr. Frodo
11-23-2003, 03:42 PM
ill just say this, LOTR is the Standard to which every movie should be made.

Spy-Of-Saruman
11-23-2003, 04:12 PM
^^ got it one

downflow311
11-23-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Necross
I liked all The Matrix movies and I think Troy does look rather good, but no matter what ROTK will beat the snot out of them. As for no brainer well thats stupid. Lotr has an epic stroyline. The Matrix really didn't get me thinking that much (I still loved the movies), but all the mind boggling parts were basically this.

Oracle: "Its a choice you have to make"

Neo: "Do you know what is going to happen."

Oracle:"Maybe I do maybe I don't...I just feel like trying to make the story line more complicated than it really is. I am just allowing for fanboys to make up their own theories and put them out to the world as fact."

Neo:"So....do you know?"

Oracle: "Maybe I do maybe I don't....I just feel like tryi..."

Neo:"Ok ok, I will just go and kill Smith and see what happens."

:lol: every matrix fanoy likes to use the excuse "people didnt like it because they didnt understand it" it is such BS.

Partyman343
11-23-2003, 07:22 PM
My friends, soulassassin is what we call a popcorn movie fan, which means that the best movies have guns blazing and explosions going off throughout the entire hour and a half to two hours, for a longer movie still won't hold their attention. Nevertheless, ROTK will be the greatest film ever made. Take care!

DolAmroth
11-23-2003, 09:47 PM
How could he think FOTR was sooooooo boring there was nothing boring about it at all same with TTT. And Yes the ROTK will be the greatest film ever do dought.

PsYkOoOoO
11-23-2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Necross
I liked all The Matrix movies and I think Troy does look rather good, but no matter what ROTK will beat the snot out of them. As for no brainer well thats stupid. Lotr has an epic stroyline. The Matrix really didn't get me thinking that much (I still loved the movies), but all the mind boggling parts were basically this.

Oracle: "Its a choice you have to make"

Neo: "Do you know what is going to happen."

Oracle:"Maybe I do maybe I don't...I just feel like trying to make the story line more complicated than it really is. I am just allowing for fanboys to make up their own theories and put them out to the world as fact."

Neo:"So....do you know?"

Oracle: "Maybe I do maybe I don't....I just feel like tryi..."

Neo:"Ok ok, I will just go and kill Smith and see what happens."

haha..:hehe:

Spyder2294
11-24-2003, 02:16 AM
A suggestion for those of you with supreme confidence in Return of the King:

I went into The Two Towers and Matrix Reloaded with sky-high expectations and left in disappointment. X-Men 2 I thought would be cheesy, went to see it with low expectations, but came away loving the film. For whatever reason, I think it helps to go into a movie with lower expectations.

As for the length, it's tempting to wait another year for the extended edition. Two Towers left quite a bit out that will have to be put into the third film, on top of all the stuff that happens in it anyway.

Frankly I have huge doubts that this third film will be able to encapsulate all that the last book does. I'm particularly worried about the Scouring of the Shire chapter, whether it will be included at all.

I'd rather it be 6 hours than leave out the end message the book portrays so wonderfully. Short, 90-minute movies are products, manufactured by the ugliness that is big business which is trying to take over our films.

The Moose
11-24-2003, 02:38 AM
scouring is definitely out. you said "whether it will be included"


i'm know that ROTK will be damn great. problem with TTT was that it had no real beginning or end, and they had no major character die, to give some emotional impact

soulassassin
11-24-2003, 04:48 AM
Obviously i have seen many more great films than adt100 then just the boring LOTR. Like hmmm lets see, Braveheart, Private Ryan, Blackhawk Down, Gladiator and the masterpiece Titanic and many more intelligent films.

I have nothing against LOTR i just dun like the fact that it is too long to explain such a simple story or quest. i mean cmon the whole story can be summed like this:

Once a upon a time an evil sauron forged 9 rings for 9 kings n other rings for other people n 1 ring to govern them all........Blah, Blah, Blah..........

Gandalf: "Frodo u must take the ring to the mountain where it was forged, only there it can be unforged"

Frodo: "ok, thats's all?"

Gandalf: "Yep"

...............blah, blah..............

Golum: "The precious is mine, we must have the precious"

..............Blah, Blah, Blah...................

Frodo: "The ring is getting heavier"

Sam: "Hold on Mr Frodo we must not give up"

.........Blah, Blah, Blah........

Frodo: "Gandalf nooooooooo"

Gandalf: "Fly you idiots"

2 hrs later


Frodo: "Sam i can see the mountain from here, we're almost there".

Sam: "Oh ok Mr Frodo we must keep going"

...........Blah, Blah, Blah,...............

Aragorn: "Gandalf ur alive"

Gandalf: "Duh"


.............. 2hrs of gibberish blah, blah,

Frodo: "The ring is getting heavier"

Sam: "Are we there yet?"

Frodo: "almost, we're almost there"

Sam: "thats what u said 3 hrs ago"

Golum: "No master, we must not take it there, he is calling for it"

Sam/Frodo: "WELL WHY DIDN'T U TELL US IN THE FIRST PLACE"

The End?

Thats pretty much all the the so called story.

Evry LOTR fans says that the "movie is too short n that the story is soo good n is more emotional" is complete BS. i didn't cry one bit.

Matrix was much more original n innovative in every way. It is thanks to the Matrix revolutionary special effects techniques that other movies have tried to copy it or mock it. LOTR is original n innovative too did u say? The films are just rehashes of the books just modified to make it "Different". As well as for innovative techniques? there is none. Gollum is not a new creation he is just an updated Jar Jar Binks.

LOTR isn't really emotional unless ur a LOTR nut, who likes to sit in the movies for 3 hrs to watch some fantasy movie bout a ring. ROTK isn't going to be the best movie ever, it is TITANIC. it has the highest BOX OFFICE record EVER n has won the highest amount of awards EVER which i am happy to say is the only 3 hr movie i truly like. And the movie "Troy" is going to be even Better then all the LOTR movies combined.

When i was watching TTT, someone in the theatre during one of the talking scenes said aloud "Boriiinnnggg" n the whole audience laughed. i just hope that ROTK won't have too much fantasy speech n that they bring Sauron back in the flesh, if not then it's gonna suck.


On the posititive side though, there is only going to be 3 LOTR movie which is good, of which the last will come out next month.

PsYkOoOoO
11-24-2003, 06:05 AM
well let me tell you this..the whole matrix thing can be summed up like this:

man created computers

computers fights back

man fights computer

Hero saves the day

computer destroyed..

THE END

Necross
11-24-2003, 03:26 PM
Did soul assasin actually put down Gladiator as an intelligent movie? ROFL

adt100
11-24-2003, 04:15 PM
Well, I'd better not mock such choices. We have to be nice and polite to new posters after all, and can't be seen to be argumentative. Whatever they post. :rolleyes:

That first paragraph of soulassasin last post however really does make me wonder if he/she is being serious of just having a laugh. And it gets worse!

Either way, it's pointless getting involved in any kind of debate/argument with him/her if they seriously are his/her views. I suspect they may just be a troll.

evenstar
11-24-2003, 04:35 PM
When i was watching TTT, someone in the theatre during one of the talking scenes said aloud "Boriiinnnggg" n the whole audience laughed.

the guys lying.

(as for reusing matrix technology- massive program?)
(BTW Titanic was voted worst movie in Britain)

But everyone is welcome to there opinion

IceGambit
11-24-2003, 05:55 PM
I think everyone is being a little harsh to soulassassin, although it was not a good choice to say that FOTR was boring in the LOTR section of the forum.

It's just such a damn shame that many people feel that movies need sex, car chases, and swearing to be good movies. And many also feel in this day that 90 minutes is a long movie.

Longer movies are better, almost always in my experience. But no one in the average movie-going crowd today has an attention span greater than that of a schizophrenic hummingbird. I imagine soulassassin would say a film like 'Seabiscuit' was boring too, although it was a fantastic film.

soulassassin, you might like advertisements on television if you are searching for a quick, mindless form of entertainment like most people today. But if you are truly looking for a good movie(which I think you are judging from your polite posts), I suggest you revisit the LOTR films. You would be amazed what an open mind and some devotion would do for your enjoyment. And if you still think it is "such a simple story," then I'm afraid you just don't grasp it.

And watch the extended editions. They are the real movies.

obsessedwithsnl
11-24-2003, 06:17 PM
this is what i said about revolutions when my friends were trying to defend it for being original "it ended in a sunset"...i was wrong it was a sunrise but it's the same thing

adt100
11-24-2003, 07:42 PM
The problem IceGambit is not with his/her dislike of LOTR (though why bother posting in the LOTR forum if that's the case) it's the lack of any coherent argument and even blatant contradictions in the comments.

"Braveheart, Private Ryan, Blackhawk Down, Gladiator and the masterpiece Titanic and many more intelligent films ..."

That line alone loses all credibility (with the exception of SPR).

Horace Jenkins
11-24-2003, 08:15 PM
So, plus the trailers in the begining it'll be around 4.20 hours long?

LOTRNUT04
11-24-2003, 09:58 PM
previews are not an hour long.....

Glordreen
11-24-2003, 10:51 PM
Sometimes they cane seemed to be. And since everybody is gonna go see ROTK, studious will want to have their trailers before it, so I will expect a lot of previews.

LOTRNUT04
11-24-2003, 11:25 PM
yeah, but a lot of previews equals like 20 minutes. And that is A LOT of previews

Rocksolidus
11-25-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
yeah, but a lot of previews equals like 20 minutes. And that is A LOT of previews

I just wanted to re-state...A LOT of previews...thank you!

There will be soooo much money involved w/ studios trying to get there clips before the feature that ROTK will be a box office hit before the opening credits!! Wait, it already is, OMG:applaud:

IceGambit
11-25-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by adt100
The problem IceGambit is not with his/her dislike of LOTR (though why bother posting in the LOTR forum if that's the case) it's the lack of any coherent argument and even blatant contradictions in the comments.

"Braveheart, Private Ryan, Blackhawk Down, Gladiator and the masterpiece Titanic and many more intelligent films ..."

That line alone loses all credibility (with the exception of SPR).

Well, I was trying to be nice to the uninitiated. Bugger that, right? :shock:

LOTRNUT04
11-25-2003, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by Rocksolidus
I just wanted to re-state...A LOT of previews...thank you!

There will be soooo much money involved w/ studios trying to get there clips before the feature that ROTK will be a box office hit before the opening credits!! Wait, it already is, OMG:applaud:
definitely

soulassassin
11-25-2003, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by adt100

The problem IceGambit is not with his/her dislike of LOTR (though why bother posting in the LOTR forum if that's the case) it's the lack of any coherent argument and even blatant contradictions in the comments.

"Braveheart, Private Ryan, Blackhawk Down, Gladiator and the masterpiece Titanic and many more intelligent films ..."

That line alone loses all credibility (with the exception of SPR).

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adt100 they are intelligent films more intelligent and entertaining then LOTR was das for sure which happens to be directed by intelligent Directors. If u consider Private Ryan as an intelligent film then so should Blackhawk Down as they deal with the same topic which is war. As far as i can see u contradict urself as ur replies dun have any credibilty at all. In the Matrix forum you post replies which incorporate less then convincing arguments n it seems to me that u just post stupid comments to upset the matrix fans. I dunno bout u guys but if u hate the matrix films then why post negative comments about it in its own forum, just say it here amongst urself and not infront of other people who DON'T want to HEAR it. It's guys like u that ticks me off as it seems u have no respect for other people's views on their favourite movie other then ur LOTR films, u critise that other movies have less than 2hrs of speech, if you want to watch documentaries u watch it at home and not on the big screen. And adt100 dun think that by mentioning big words means ur head is bigger, who knows u could be some1 who is still living with their parents n who has no girlfriend because he cares more bout LOTR than other people. I also see contrdictory lines in ur replies as in "The problem IceGambit is not with his/her dislike of LOTR (though why bother posting in the LOTR forum if that's the case)" that clearly states to how inferior ur so called intelligence is as u do the same thing in the matrix forums.

And whoever said i'd prefer movies which are 90 mins long i simply stated that the LOTR films were too long for a person with the mind of a child to undertsand such a simple story which is sooo predictable. I knew that Gandalf didn't die in FOTR coz it was too soon for him to die n who else could fight against Saruman. I mean if it weren't for some good action scenes than most people will agree that this would be a waste of their time watching it. I guess for some 38% of audiences out there prefer to watch movies that go on and on and don't get to the point until almost at the end. And for those people who say they want the LOTRs to go on longer, for what? just some minor details to be included which takes an extra 30 mins to explain (in this case the special editions of LOTR films)



Ice Gambit if u say that every other film other than LOTR is a quick and mindless form of entertainment than i guess u haven't seen any other films other than the long boring and mindless/pointless LOTR films. Ur just just jealous coz us matrix fans went crazy after we saw the trailers of the matrix movies and no doubt u LOTR fans will do the same. I guess you guys will be doing the same thing when the new Star Wars movie comes out you will criticise it with the typical line "ohh its all just special effects blah,blah,blah" Just be thankful that there are different variety of movies out there to watch n if u dun like it then just shut up, you don't have to repeat the negative points of a movie over and over and over again. Don't lower other people's enthusiasm to go n see it let them decide for themselves. There open minded reveiws out there for them to read n not one-minded like adt100's hopeless comments. As for Seabiscuit i haven't seen it yet so i will have to get back to u on dat 1 but i have seen another movie called a 'Beautiful mind' which is an ok movie only worth watching once.

Evenstar i wasn't lying

Oh n Psykoooo the hero did save the day but he didn't destroy the machines/computers. LMAO

PsYkOoOoO
11-25-2003, 07:41 AM
Firstly..what are you saying..PJ is NOT an intelligent director?Filming 7 locations at once..doing editing and directing all at the same time?

Secondly,Both SPR and BHD talks about war yes..but doesnt mean they are both INTELLIGENT...SPR is way better than BHD...

Thirdly,you said this:
I dunno bout u guys but if u hate the matrix films then why post negative comments about it in its own forum, just say it here amongst urself and not infront of other people who DON'T want to HEAR it.

What are you doing now?

i really cannot read anymore..its just soo funny...everyone here thinks u are ridiculous..you think adt100 is ridiculous..who is the MOST ridiculous person here..hmm

adt100
11-25-2003, 01:47 PM
I think soulassassin needs to see a lot more films from a range of genres and a range of era's before he continues to make a fool of himself.

He also doesn't seem to realise that most of the people in this forum will have seen all the Matrix and Star Wars films, and may well have (or be planning on buying) them on DVD as well.

Unfortunately though it seems that in the SW and Matrix forums there is a far greater prevalence of the childish 'them and us' attitude to film franchises.

PsYkOoOoO
11-25-2003, 01:48 PM
i bet you will get another essay about you from him again later..:P

IceGambit
11-25-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by soulassassin

I guess you guys will be doing the same thing when the new Star Wars movie comes out you will criticise it with the typical line "ohh its all just special effects blah,blah,blah" Just be thankful that there are different variety of movies out there to watch n if u dun like it then just shut up, you don't have to repeat the negative points of a movie over and over and over again. Don't lower other people's enthusiasm to go n see it let them decide for themselves. There open minded reveiws out there for them to read n not one-minded like adt100's hopeless comments.


I did not say that every other film is mindless. I pointed out that many are to appeal to the mindless generation of movie-goers today. And the war movies you keep bringing up are not as complex stories as you are trying to make them. You can boil any movie down to a simple story is that is your misson in life.

As for us not repeating the negative points of movies over and over, what have you been doing about LOTR other than just that?

As for us criticizing Star Wars and the Matrix, where the hell are you getting all this? You were the one who starting the thread, and no one said a thing about the Matrix or SW untl you brought it up.

If you want to make a credible argument for the LOTR films being overly long, I would listen. But now you are just babbling about totally unconnected subjects. From someone who hasn't seen the new Matrix movie yet, I think you are just mad that it didn't live up to your expectations. Jealous that LOTR is a better trilogy, perhaps than the Matrix films?

Brock Landers
11-25-2003, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by soulassassin
Well, the Lord of the Rings movies doesn't even require to use your brain like the Matrix films
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Right there you lost all credibility with me. The MATRIX films are far from confusing. I got it the first viewing. They may seem confusing because of the dialogue they use(see the example downflow posted somewhere. The Dialogue may have made it seem more deep then it actually was. It was an action film laced with needless 'spiritual' dialogue. It isn't this huge brain-busting equation. All it requires is to simplify the dialogue.

That is what pisses me off about the Matrix movies. The guys and gals who walk away from that film who feel like regular rocket scientists because they understood what Morpheus was saying on top of a moving freeway truck with a samurai sword. False deepness, pal.

PsYkOoOoO
11-25-2003, 11:28 PM
hahaa...i'll just laugh:hehe:

ILOVEKATIE
11-25-2003, 11:32 PM
I don't like this thread, so many of my favorite films of all-time are being bashed.:(

PsYkOoOoO
11-25-2003, 11:34 PM
by ONE person.hahaha..

ILOVEKATIE
11-25-2003, 11:51 PM
not just one person, not just soulassassin, but others too.
But whatever I don't take things personal:)

soulassassin
11-26-2003, 04:02 AM
First of all PsYkOoOoO yes Peter Jackson maybe intelligent to u but he definitely is not up there with the others.

"Thirdly,you said this:
I dunno bout u guys but if u hate the matrix films then why post negative comments about it in its own forum, just say it here amongst urself and not infront of other people who DON'T want to HEAR it.

What are you doing now?"

I am simply quoting for u guys to stop acting dumb in front of those people in the matrix forum, so get ur FACTS right buddy. As i have seen u many times there acting ridiculous urself, i bet u watch LOTR 5 times a day, what a sad little fella.

adt100 like i said before i have seen many more variety of movies than just "fantasy" types like U.

Ice Gambit the matrix trilogy lived up more to my expectations but to me i feel it is a better trilogy than the supposedly LOTR trilogy. The LOTR trilogy HA, now dat didn't live up to my expectations.

Hahahahaah PsYkOoOoO ur a crack up. U just contradict urself all the time, i bet ur the dumbest LOTRNUT in here. Even ur own nick describes how ridiculous you are.

PsYkOoOoO
11-26-2003, 05:58 AM
u might want to change yr nic from soulassassin to soulidiot?

Sims17
11-26-2003, 06:15 AM
yeah soulassasin, change the nic, change it now.
You are a true idiot.

the_one_ring_03
11-26-2003, 06:28 AM
lol

jeti
11-26-2003, 07:01 AM
Lol soulassassin, I can see why you created a new account for this thread. You are such an obvious troll :D

I suppose you will get a sense of how false you really are once you find yourself standing in line for ROTK.

mistaste
11-26-2003, 07:28 AM
personally i dont care how long the film is as long as PJ gives us some kick ass battle scenes and some proper bo graphics!!

flunky
11-26-2003, 12:32 PM
soulassassin, then you should't be here in the first place. Why don't you go to the matrix forums? Anyways, It doesn't matter how long the movie is as long as it's action-packed. I really can't wait to see the movie!

PsYkOoOoO
11-26-2003, 12:44 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....dont say anything that goes against his will...he will snap back at ya...shhhhhhhhhhhhh...

TyRoss
11-26-2003, 12:52 PM
Just so you know.

I've had a word with soulassassin.

But I expect the rest of you to be good and let it drop as well.

PsYkOoOoO
11-26-2003, 12:53 PM
haha..i'll drop it if he drops it...if he changes his mind abt long movies..

IceGambit
11-26-2003, 09:50 PM
Perhaps the thread should be closed, since it was pointless to begin with?

I see no reason to keep it open.

Glordreen
11-26-2003, 10:03 PM
agreed

PsYkOoOoO
11-26-2003, 10:29 PM
ermm...modS?

soulassassin
11-27-2003, 04:56 AM
Ice Gambit you are pointless by being in here in the first place.


Ok then guys, it's confirmed that LOTR is a long and boring movie well the first one anyway while the second had just a little bit more action (but still made me yawn lots) and i hope the third one will be ok.


So every1 agreed?? Ok then it's agreed.

Thank you guys for participating in this thread, and i will watch ROTK just to make you guys happy.

PsYkOoOoO
11-27-2003, 06:26 AM
what the....we never agreed on that hello??

IceGambit
11-27-2003, 11:29 AM
Give it up PsyKOoOoO, no good can come of it.

Oh, MoDerator?

PsYkOoOoO
11-27-2003, 12:36 PM
alright..i shall leave this thread alone for now...