View Full Version : The Hobbit now definitely a possibility
Coming Soon!
11-21-2003, 11:52 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=2429
Glordreen
11-22-2003, 12:06 AM
SWEETNESS!!!!!
LOTRNUT04
11-22-2003, 02:42 AM
s*** yeah!!!!
DolAmroth
11-22-2003, 02:56 AM
great news
The Moose
11-22-2003, 03:32 AM
YAY
LOTRNUT04
11-22-2003, 03:35 AM
he'd better do it, because i dont want to see someone else do a piss-poor job, and slap a classic together, i also wouldn't want to see the characters we already have become to know be portrayed by someone else
downflow311
11-22-2003, 11:34 AM
still just a rumour. nothing official. but exciting nontheless.
PsYkOoOoO
11-22-2003, 11:35 AM
GO PJ!!!!!!!!!!!
Aztec
11-22-2003, 11:57 AM
Yes, go Peter go!!!!
Rocksolidus
11-22-2003, 12:16 PM
PeEEEEEtttaaaaaa!!! more power to you if you do!!! you're pretty awesom anyway!!!
PsYkOoOoO
11-22-2003, 01:14 PM
nice avatar..:)
Dogbert0228
11-22-2003, 01:55 PM
Nothing to get excited about yet... I'll be excited if when PJ releases 'King Kong,' Ian Holm and Ian McKellen are still alive and well and up to doing "The Hobbit".... Because NL's up to it right now, as soon and fast as possible, but let's be patient and see where we are in a year or two...
However, I'm of the mind that Peter Jackson isn't keeping the Bag End set together in one piece for no good reason...
Rabbit
11-22-2003, 02:13 PM
darn you, you beat me to it.
Brock Landers
11-22-2003, 02:22 PM
This sounds GREAT. :D
jpdill
11-22-2003, 02:37 PM
It was one of the first books i read (that weren't picture) so i guess i should be happy - i prefer it to LOTR.
But it should be TV not CINEMA.
Dogbert0228
11-22-2003, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by jpdill
But it should be TV not CINEMA.
All about the $$$.....
Fable
11-22-2003, 02:55 PM
awesome! it'd be sweet to see smaug on the big screen :D
SQueek
11-22-2003, 11:01 PM
"definitely a possibility"
So its now for sure that this movie might be made hehe
Marvin Nash
11-23-2003, 01:00 AM
That's sick news. Hopefully they'll do it.
Queen Arwen
11-23-2003, 02:17 AM
Sorry, I'm not too psyched about it. The Hobbit was a disappointment for me. I would prefer it if PJ decided not to do it after all.
Oh yes yes yes. Please PJ you go ahead and make this movie.
I know Ian McKellen is up for it. Hopefully Ian Holm will be well enough to make this film. At least he'll have a stunt double so he won't have to do much physical work. I like that face off at Isengard between Gandalf and Saruman for example with the way they used their doubles in combat.
Bring it on for 2006-07.
FVD.
Spyder2294
11-24-2003, 12:30 AM
I hope he'll drop King Kong and just go into this. King Kong . . . why? Because the Godzilla remake was so good?
Then I'd love it to be Ian Holme but I have doubts that they'd let him do it - nasty thing called aging.
Necross
11-24-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Spyder2294
I hope he'll drop King Kong and just go into this. King Kong . . . why? Because the Godzilla remake was so good?
Then I'd love it to be Ian Holme but I have doubts that they'd let him do it - nasty thing called aging.
Your forgetting. Pj is doing the King Kong remake.
Horace Jenkins
11-24-2003, 07:37 PM
Don't everybody go an wet themselves quite yet... PJ still has King Kong to do... then we'll just have to wait and see...
Spyder2294
11-24-2003, 11:41 PM
Your forgetting. Pj is doing the King Kong remake.
Alright, let me rephrase: Because the Godzilla remake was so necessary?
Part of what makes these old monster movies so classic is the era in which they were made and the means available to them at that time. Doing a modern, high tech version loses that whole part of the aesthetic value. Because of this a new film, at best, is only capturing half of the original's charm, and what's the point of a half-faced film? It's wholly unnecessary.
Elessar504
11-24-2003, 11:50 PM
Good news!!
Glordreen
11-24-2003, 11:52 PM
If it is made, I dont think it can ba as good as LOTR. Nothing can be as good as LOTR.
Rocksolidus
11-24-2003, 11:56 PM
mr. THe hobbit is the prequel to LOTR,,, don't you get it? and if Peter Jackson made it, it would have all the same quality and richeness w/ all the gooey filling..yumm, butterbeer
Glordreen
11-25-2003, 12:00 AM
I know that, it could almost be considered part of LOTR, but its not. And also, I dont think the story is as good as LOTR, even though if the movie is made it will be awesome. But not as awesome as LOTR.
Samwise Gamwich
11-25-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Rocksolidus
mr. THe hobbit is the prequel to LOTR,,, don't you get it? and if Peter Jackson made it, it would have all the same quality and richeness w/ all the gooey filling..yumm, butterbeer
The Hobbit is NOT a 'prequel'.....
It is 'There and Back Again'....
It is Bilbo's story...
(Sorry I HATE 'buzzwords')
LOTRNUT04
11-25-2003, 01:31 AM
no it is not, JRR tolkien changed it after writing it, but he wrote it first, it tells the tales of bilbo before frodo, so therefore it is a prequel
Brock Landers
11-25-2003, 01:33 AM
Technically, yes guys, it IS a prequel to LOTR. Read the Letters of JRR Tolkien. Even Tolkien refers to it as the prequel to LOTR, and he even says 'Rings is the sequel to Hobbit'
Originally posted by Dogbert0228
However, I'm of the mind that Peter Jackson isn't keeping the Bag End set together in one piece for no good reason... I remember from the FOTR EE that Jackson talked about loving the Bag End set so much that he wanted to bring it home with him! Let us hope he did. But though the Shire was spared of the scouring in the film I fear reality has been less merciful... *sob*
Rocksolidus
11-25-2003, 12:25 PM
need not say anything do I?
flunky
11-26-2003, 12:43 PM
Making The Hobbit a movie will be a grrrreat idea!
lilbreem
11-27-2003, 06:59 PM
If PJ does it, it will come to a Theactrical DVD and an EE probably. Just like the LotR Series.
Aztec
11-28-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by lilbreem
If PJ does it, it will come to a Theactrical DVD and an EE probably. Just like the LotR Series.
Yup. I wonder if they'll keep Lord of the Rings in the title and make "The Hobbit" the subtitle? They certainly could get away with that if they chose.
king_of_hetzer
11-28-2003, 11:14 PM
Well I don't know. I am skeptical.
-Ian Holm is old, okay? Getting older by the day, PJ is so busy with King King.
-Ian McKellen, same as above.
-Gollum! How are they going to make a young gollum! That is out of my conception, then again, the young one (in the prologue) seemed extremely creepy, so maybe they will just keep him in more of a mysterious dark confused area.
-Smaug, flying dragons don't do good in movies. Because on just ONE SHOT on the fellowship of the ring trailer, three of my teachers refuse to watch them. They think of them as little kid fantasy storys because of the one shot of the "FIREWORK DRAGON". :( Not even a real one. Imagine when they make a real one, people will dismiss this, I feel.
-Can they really find people to play the dwarfs/dwarves? John Rhys-Davis is the only actor I can think of to play a dwarf. But they need TWELVE.
-Trolls talking? Ridiculously hard to do and convince the audience after Moria sequence.
-The shire. They would have to completely reconstruct everything except for Bag End, IF that was saved.
-The map! The map used in Gandalf searching the house has been given to Elijah Wood! They need that exact same map or else the continuinty fails.
Idk, maybe I am just negative, but I am scared. I really want it to be made, but it seems unlikely.
Glordreen
11-28-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by king_of_hetzer
-Gollum! How are they going to make a young gollum! That is out of my conception, then again, the young one (in the prologue) seemed extremely creepy, so maybe they will just keep him in more of a mysterious dark confused area.
But Gollum isnt old in the Hobbit, hes had the ring for so long its delayed his age, so he would look the same.
king_of_hetzer
11-28-2003, 11:19 PM
Yea, I am really sorry. Maybe I am ignorant about the Hobbit to be even speaking about it. I never even read the book, just saw the cartoon. :(
I know, I'm retarded.
JEDI_THE_WHITE
12-03-2003, 12:46 AM
Hey guys,
I was watching acsess hollywood, and the scrolling bar on the bottom, which is where they give most of the time official entertainment news during the broadcast, They say that Peter Jackson officially said yes to the making of the HOBBIT.
I have been looking for more confirmation, but can't seem to find anything. I did say that though.
Samwise Gamwich
12-03-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Hey guys,
I was watching acsess hollywood, and the scrolling bar on the bottom, which is where they give most of the time official entertainment news during the broadcast, They say that Peter Jackson officially said yes to the making of the HOBBIT.
I have been looking for more confirmation, but can't seem to find anything. I did say that though.
That is really GREAT news!!!
Now the HARD part begins....
Wrestling with the rights to the Hobbit from a VERY closed minded Tolkien estate!!! (John must be turning in his grave right now!!!)
JEDI_THE_WHITE
12-03-2003, 12:51 AM
Yeah really...
This what I think the lines said:
Rings Director Peter Jackson plans to make the PREQUEL to the succuesful trilogy THE HOBBIT.
Samwise Gamwich
12-03-2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by king_of_hetzer
Yea, I am really sorry. Maybe I am ignorant about the Hobbit to be even speaking about it. I never even read the book, just saw the cartoon. :(
I know, I'm retarded.
Read the book dude!
There is a Fire Breathing Dragon in it and we meet Gollum for the first time and the Gwahir and the Eagles and we meet Gimli's father Gloin
ANd we meet Legolas' kin (who are jerks for Elves)
And we also meet some of Shelob's children!!
PsYkOoOoO
12-03-2003, 12:55 AM
and you get to see dwarves fight..:)
Samwise Gamwich
12-03-2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
and you get to see dwarves fight..:)
And kill Orcs and Goblins!!!
Which seems to be an obsession with Dwarves...
todd philip
12-03-2003, 01:10 AM
good news, but this aint gonna happen for a loong time folks!
not until after king kong,
so it probably wont be in theaters till like 2007
JEDI_THE_WHITE
12-03-2003, 01:18 AM
Yeah, we all know it won't be for a while, but we all really wanted PJ to just say yes. According to AH, he did. I would like PJ to takes his time, that way the anticipation builds and along with the excitement.
I just went over the AH website and couldn't find anything, they have that scrolling bar and it is scrolling with the news, I watched it for a few minutes but it never came up.
I know I saw it on TV.
todd philip
12-03-2003, 01:20 AM
i think 2007 might even be to early, most likely i would say, 2008! that sounds more realistic!
Samwise Gamwich
12-03-2003, 01:20 AM
JEDI??
What is 'AH' (Please forgive my ignorance, Dude...)
JEDI_THE_WHITE
12-03-2003, 01:22 AM
Ignorance... Don't ever say that about yourself again.
AH = Access Hollywood.
Samwise Gamwich
12-03-2003, 01:23 AM
Oh!!
(Smacking forehead!!!)
Thanks JEDI!
todd philip
12-03-2003, 01:23 AM
A-Hole ;)
Samwise Gamwich
12-03-2003, 01:29 AM
Coming Soon??
JEDI_THE_WHITE
12-03-2003, 01:36 AM
I went back to the AH webiste and watched that scrolling bar all the way through and NOTHING.
Samwise Gamwich
12-03-2003, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
I went back to the AH webiste and watched that scrolling bar all the way through and NOTHING.
Bummer
JEDI_THE_WHITE
12-03-2003, 01:52 AM
I searched up and down for more references and no one, not even TORN or TORC.
Darn! It was as clear as day on that bar.
[PJ] said: "New Line haven't actually talked to me about The Hobbit. I know there's difficulty about the rights.
"Certainly, if they want to talk to me about it, I'd be keen. It would be wonderful to complete the set of films."Source: Ananova, http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_843515.html
LOTRNUT04
12-03-2003, 03:10 AM
god i really really hope he does this......."PJ, drop KK and do the hobbit first"
Actually, I think PJ is not the hurdle in this matter. By the quote above it seems clear to me that he is indeed very interested. Only thing missing is a company willing to pick up the glove and settle the rights issue. That should probably only be a matter of time, though.
And of course, then the company and PJ have to agree on the specifics. At least it isn't lack of interest that kills off the idea.
RyansRing
12-03-2003, 04:01 AM
I think its a good idea he do KK first just to give gim a break as not too stress the poor man out.
Kashmir
12-03-2003, 11:03 PM
Hi...I am new here, but not to Tolkien. I would LOVE to see PJ do the Hobbit. That was the 1st of the books I read way back in middle school. I just finished it again as well as the LOTR. I have lost count on how many reads. I, like all of you, eagerly await ROTK!
longissima
12-04-2003, 08:45 AM
Wrestling with the rights to the Hobbit from a VERY closed minded Tolkien estate!!! (John must be turning in his grave right now!!!)
I was reading the December/January issue of Premiere Magazine, the interview with the 4 hobbits, and saw something interesting. In January 1997, Miramax optioned the live-action film rights to the "Lord of the Rings" AND "The Hobbit" from Saul Zaentz who had aquired the rights in the '70's. Then in July of 1998, New Line purchased the rights on "Rings" and "The Hobbit" from Miramax. So according to this, New Line already has the film rights to "The Hobbit". I really hope this film is made as well. *Keeps fingers crossed*
Coming Soon!
12-04-2003, 09:12 AM
That's not true, New Line doesn't have the Hobbit rights.
longissima
12-04-2003, 09:40 AM
I was just posting what I have read in that particular issue of the magazine. The article was written by Tom Roston and the information can be found on pages 66-68. I just find it odd that they have the rights to the "Lord of the Rings" but not "The Hobbit" eventhough there were films made of both over 20 years ago.
Cbars
12-04-2003, 09:41 AM
I thought Universal was the one with the rights to the Hobbit.
longissima
12-04-2003, 10:55 AM
Sir Ian McKellen has said he would be interested in playing Gandalf again if Peter Jackson were to make The Hobbit. McKellen recently asked about the film rights to JRR Tolkein's novel, which he says are controlled by Jackson.
This came from a story on www.ananova.com on 10-29-02. It was taken from an interview on TORN the same date fro an interview with Sir Ian McKellan.
Tolkien Enterprises, a division of the Saul Zaentz Company, owns certain worldwide exclusive rights to the literary works The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, including the titles, the names of the characters, places, scenes, things and events appearing in the works, and certain short phrases and sayings from the works. We license these for use as trademarks and service marks in connection with various lines of merchandise. The Saul Zaentz Company also owns exclusive rights to certain copyrightable elements of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, including, among other things, film and legitimate stage rights.
This is from www.tolkien-ent.com. It also states that any inquiries about licensing should be directed to:
Director of Licensing
New Line Cinema
888 Seventh Avenue
New York, New York 10106
fax: 212.956.1941
The historic collaboration between New Line, Miramax and Zaentz can be traced back to 1978, when Zaentz, who previously had acquired the film rights to "Rings" and "The Hobbit" from Tolkien, produced a 133-minute animated version of the fantasy. Miramax optioned the live-action rights from him in January 1997. The plan was for the Disney-owned indie to finance and distribute the franchise, with Zaentz exec producing. Miramax entered into script development and worked on the special effects with New Zealand-based Jackson and Walsh for over a year. But the studio and Wingnut couldn't reconcile their differing approaches to the material. "Lord of the Rings" is, in fact, a series of three books; "The Fellowship of the Ring," "The Two Towers" and "The Return of the King." While Miramax wanted to compress them into a single pic, the filmmakers stubbornly held out for their original vision of three. New Line now has assumed Miramax's option, and, for about $10 million, reimbursed Miramax for all of its development and research costs. In addition, New Line has bought the film rights to the "Rings" prequel, "The Hobbit," from Miramax.
This came from an article in "Variety" magazine written by Benedict Carver on 8-31-98. The article is titled "Alliance of rivals lord over 'Rings'.(odd alliance of producers/filmmakers behind 'The Lord of the Rings')
New Line Cinema announced that it will commit more than $130 million to produce a live-action, special effects-driven trilogy of films based on J.R.R. Tolkien's acclaimed trio of fantasy novels "The Lord of the Rings". In addition, the company has picked up rights to another Tolkien classic, "The Hobbit", and secured worldwide merchandising rights to products based on the film property. New Line got the project from Miramax, which had been developing it since January 1997. Miramax co-chairman Bob and Harvey Weinstein will serve as exec producers with Saul Zaentz, who originally obtained the rights to the novels directly from Tolkien.
This came from an article at a geocites site titled: New Line getting into 'The Hobbit' with prod'n deal - by Josh Chetwynd
This was taken from "The Hollywood Reporter" from their issue on dates 8/25 to 8/31 1998.
These are just a few things I found about the possibility of a "Hobbit" movie. Again, I am not saying there will be one, just that I don't see any reason there won't be.
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