Frodo Baggins
10-30-2003, 10:47 PM
Okay, really sorry if this was already posted here, but if you haven't seen this: (coming from WaroftheRing.Net)
-The trek across the Emyn Muil has a few additional scenes added. The first is while Frodo and Sam are using the Elvish rope to scale down a rock face, while doing this a small box drops out of Sam's pocket. Once at the bottom, Sam explains to Frodo that it's spices he brought just in case (including salt from the Shire). With the rope still attached to the stump above, Sam is bothered about leaving the rope that Galadriel had given him and gives it a yank and much to their surprise the rope unties itself and comes down!
-Also on Emyn Muil is the first glimpse of Gollum. Frodo and Sam are huddled under their cloaks in a storm that we do not see in the theatrical release, when Gollum's hand appears on a rock above them. Frodo appears to see him and this makes the part where Frodo tells Sam that they are not alone much more believable.
-After tackling and persuading Gollum to lead them to The Black Gate, we are exposed to the Gollum vs. Smeagol struggle as Gollum argues with Smeagol about going back to Mordor and facing thousands of Orcsies. Gollum apparently wins and he runs off with the intent of ditching Frodo and Sam, but Smeagol takes over and he comes back and leads them out.
-The next change occours with the comany of Uruk-hai carrying Merry and Pippin. This time when the Captain stops the run, it's not because they smell man flesh, it's because they run into the Isengard Orcs. There's an excellent exchange between Grishnak and the Uruk leader Ugluk. During the exchange Pippin pleads for them to give Merry some water and instead they force Orc Grog down Merry's throat instead. Once underway Merry lightens the mood by joking with Pippin that he was only play acting and must have been doing good as he fooled him too.
Saruman has additional scenes with the first explaining the devastation to Fangorn Forest. He argues with one of his minions about his army needing to be better armed, when told that there is not enough wood to fire the furnaces, he views the woods of Fangorn and then instructs that the trees of Fangorn are to be used to fuel the them. Next, a leader of the Wildmen swears allegiance to Saruman by cutting his hand with a knife.
-Eomer finds Theodred amongst the slain at a battle site along a riverbed and brings him back still alive at that point. He also notices the White Hand of Isengard on a dead Uruk-hai's helmet and that turns out to be the helmet that he places at King Theoden's feet.
The exchange between Eomer and Grima is more intense and he challenges Grima's authority to banish him, but Grima surprises him by producing banishment order that was signed by the King earlier in the day.
-Ugluk's Stand has tons of additional footage starting with an exchange where Ugluk explains to the Grishnak and the Orcs from Mordor that the Hobbits are to be brought to Isengard "alive and unspoiled", when asked what he means by "unspoiled", he explains that the Hobbits have an "Elvish weapon that the Master wants", and Merry tells Pippin that the Uruks think that they have the Ring which makes me feel better about similar comments in the RotK trailers. This part is also added to with more carnage! As Ugluk is explaining all this, an Orc is sneaking up behind Merry and Pippin to have a bite and that's when Ugluk beheads him. Rather than a simple lop off, the headless body towers about Merry and Pippin for a bit before falling over and becoming dinner.
-The attack of the Rohirrim is drawn out more and is a bit more graphic. But Pippins mysterious bonds still disappear, and then reappear. (He's under the horse hands free, then crawling over the ground hands tied again only to cut them off himself)
-The Dead Marshes are extended to include Frodo, Sam and Gollum stopping for a meal. Gollum laments about there being "No crunchy birds to eat". Sam taunts him as usual, but offers him some Lembas. Gollum tries it, chokes on it, and then curses Sam for being cruel. There's an intense exchange between Frodo and Gollum to which Gollum explains that "once the Precious takes hold, that it never lets go" which further explains Frodo's pity of him and makes the relationship between Gollum, Frodo, and The Ring that much more intense.
-The tracking of the Hobbits by Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli into Fangorn is added to with Legolas explaining to Gimli that long ago the Elves taught the trees to speak.
-The re-introduction of Gandalf is added to and very well done with Legolas begging forgiveness because he mistook him for Saruman. Gandalf states "I am Saruman.... Saruman as he should have been" .
Gandalf also states to them that "Something wonderful is about to happen that hasn't happened in a ling, long time. The Tress are about to wake up and discover that they are strong". He then tells Gimli not to be so "grumpy". hehe
-After introducing Merry and Pippin to the White Wizard, Treebeard is shown walking with them and singing as he goes along, as it turns out he is actualy singing to them Song of The Entwives!! Pippin asks if the are any young Ents and Treebeard says there are no Entings and that the Entwives are lost. He asks Merry and Pippin if they have seen any Entiwives in the Shire, and when they ask him what they look like, he laments, as it's been so long that he can't remember. He continues singing and hysterically Merry and Pippin are shown falling to sleep as he walks and sings.
-The next scene is Treebeard laying them to rest at his house stating that he was asked to keep them safe and safe they shall be. As he lays them down on the ground he tells them "Sleep now little Hobbits, heed no nightly noise!" I about jumped out of my seat! As I found out from the Features Disk, this was PJ, Fran's, and Phillipa's way of honouring the Tom Bombadil chapter.
-The extra exchange between Aragorn and Gandalf that appeared in some of the earlier trailers appears here before they depart for Edoras with Gandalf explaining that while Sauron is powerful, he has heard of the Heir of Isildur and that he fears him. Explains that hope remains while the Ring remains hidden and comforts Aragorn. Aragorn also comforts Gandalf by informing him that Sam is with Frodo.
-Merry awakes the next morning to find Pippin next to a running spring. Pippin explains a dream he had about barrels of Pipeweed and all the while drinking from the stream in a wooden bowl. As rumoured, Entdraught is in!! In fact Merry and Pippin get into a hysterical argument as Merry points out that somehow Pippin is now taller than he is. It gets even better as during the argument Pippin belches and seems to speak Entish! This happens several times until Merry figures out that it's the Entwash that's having this effect.
-Merry and Pippin start to wrestle about over the Entwash as Pippin does not want to share, until Merry wins and they both sit down at the base of a large tree and begin to drink. Well, this tree is none other than... are you ready?..... Old Man Willow!! And he promptly proceeds to open up and pull them in! Whoop! Treebeard shows up and saves them. Again using Tom Bombadil lines by telling Old Man Willow "You let them out again....Eat earth! Dig Deep! Drink water!"
-The exorcism of Saruman scene is a bit more drawn out.
-Grima's expulsion from Edoras is added to by after Aragorn stops Theoden from slaying him, he offers a hand to help Grima up. Grima nastily spits into Aragorn's hand (much to Aragorn's dismay) and then races out of Edoras.
-After Theoden asks for his son Theodred, a very moving funeral march for Theodred takes place. Thedred is on a bower dressed in kingly robes with his sword on his chest. As they place him into the prepared mound, Eowyn sings a powerful funeral dirge and the whole scene is very emotional.
-There is an added scene in Theoden's stable where men are trying to calm a wild horse. Aragorn speaks Elvish to the horse to calm him and Eowyn introduces him to the horse Brego.
-Saruman is shown more with Grima and he is obviously bothered by his defeat at the hands of Gandalf. Grima tells Saruman that Gandalf is not alone, that there was and Elf, a Dwarf, and a man with him. He describes the man as shabby, but that he bears a ring. He then described the Ring of Baradur which leads well into Saruman commenting on Gandalf thinking he's found the Lost King of Gondor.
-There's additional exchanges between Theoden and Gamling as he assures that they will not be defeated and vows to return to Edoras.
-The capture of Frodo by Faramir has been added to. When first captured, Frodo tries to explain their errand to him. Farmir tells Frodo that "the Enemy's war will make corpses of us all".
-There's a very touching exchange between Aragorn and Theoden back in Edoras as Tehoden laments that he had not been more of a father to Theodred.
-On the trek to Helm's Deep, they break and make camp. Eowyn approaches Aragorn and humbly offers him some of the stew she has made. This scene is hysterical as Aragorn scoops up something on his spoon that does not look appetising at all, and when he tries it to please her, it obviously tastes as bad as it looks! hehe Eowyn inquires of his age as she has heard rumours and guesses at about 60, he lets her guess a couple more, then tells her that he is 87. She remarks in awe that he must be one of the Dunedain. It gets better for as she's walking away, he starts to pour out the stew, but she turns back around and he ends up spilling it on himself trying not to let her see that he was pouring it out.
-The Warg battle is a bit more intense with just a little more battle footage.
-The questioning of Frodo by Faramir includes more dialogue and a flashback to Faramir's discovering of his older brother Boromir dead in his boat and the flashback ends with Faramir holding Boromir's cloven horn.
-There are further flashbacks as Boromir makes a moving speech after they reclaim Osgiliath. Faramir and Boromir celebrate the victory with a toast.
-Denethor is introduced during this flashback. Denethor praises Boromir his first born and berates Faramir for allowing Osgiliath to fall into ruin. Boromir sticks up for his brother while Denethor plainly states that he feels Faramir is useless.
-Denethor pulls aside Boromir and informs him of the call to the Council of Elrond and that he believes that the Ring of Power has been found. Boromir does not want to leave Gondor. Faramir offers to go in his stead, and Denethor further berates Faramir by stating that "Only my eldest son will not fail me!" and taunts Faramir by saying that Faramir's only intent is to "prove his quality".
-Boromir pleads not to leave Gondor, but Denethor demands that he bring him the Ring. The strain on Boromir is obvious and this actually helps the viewer to understand Boromir's motivation for his desire of the Ring in the first movie.
-There is additional footage of the Faramir's interrogation of Gollum by showing Faramir's men actually beating Gollum. They go so far as to kick him and he is held as another one punches him. He's actually beaten pretty badly.
-Extra footage of Eowyn at Helm's Deep where she challenges Aragorn in regards to her role and states that her place is to fight and begs to be by his side. Her argument end when during the exchange she states that Aragorn's men will not leave his side because "they love him". There's an awkward moment where you can tell that she just about professed her love for him by stating that and decides not to pursue it any further.
-There is more Entmoot, with Treebeard telling Merry and Pipping "Don't be hasty!" as they had just finished saying hello!
-The opening Helm's Deep scene is more drawn out by showing more of the effect that the oncoming Uruk-hai is having on the soldiers and refugees, which makes for a much better impact of the entire scene.
-The Huorns are in!! They are first shown when Treebeard is enraged by Saruman's devastation of Fangorn. He tells Merry and Pippin that those trees have other business while his is with Isengard and then the March of the Ents begins.
-The actual Battle for Helm's Deep is enhanced with some additional fighting.
-After victory is achieved at Helm's Deep the Uruk-hai are shown running into the woods. It's quiet for a moment and then the trees erupt in motion and much screaming is heard as the Huorns finish the battle by destroying them!
-A great exchange is shown between Gimli and Legolas as they finish their competition. Quite hysterical.
-After the trashing of Isengard, Merry and Pippin mock Saruman. Floating apples, and other food lead them to discover the storeroom where they promptly find two barrels of Long Bottom Leaf. (One barrel for each of them of course!)
-Back in Osgiliath after releasing Frodo, Sam, and Gollum, Faramir leads them to an area where there are sewers by which they can escape. He learns that Gollum is leading them to a staircase and upon hearing the name Minas Morgul, he throttles Gollum threatens him with his life if any harm should befall Frodo or Sam.
-And lastly, as they depart Osgiliath, Sam tries to explain Frodo's actions to Gollum and that he was trying to save Gollum's life. Sam says "No hard feelings...okay?" and Gollum agrees.
-The trek across the Emyn Muil has a few additional scenes added. The first is while Frodo and Sam are using the Elvish rope to scale down a rock face, while doing this a small box drops out of Sam's pocket. Once at the bottom, Sam explains to Frodo that it's spices he brought just in case (including salt from the Shire). With the rope still attached to the stump above, Sam is bothered about leaving the rope that Galadriel had given him and gives it a yank and much to their surprise the rope unties itself and comes down!
-Also on Emyn Muil is the first glimpse of Gollum. Frodo and Sam are huddled under their cloaks in a storm that we do not see in the theatrical release, when Gollum's hand appears on a rock above them. Frodo appears to see him and this makes the part where Frodo tells Sam that they are not alone much more believable.
-After tackling and persuading Gollum to lead them to The Black Gate, we are exposed to the Gollum vs. Smeagol struggle as Gollum argues with Smeagol about going back to Mordor and facing thousands of Orcsies. Gollum apparently wins and he runs off with the intent of ditching Frodo and Sam, but Smeagol takes over and he comes back and leads them out.
-The next change occours with the comany of Uruk-hai carrying Merry and Pippin. This time when the Captain stops the run, it's not because they smell man flesh, it's because they run into the Isengard Orcs. There's an excellent exchange between Grishnak and the Uruk leader Ugluk. During the exchange Pippin pleads for them to give Merry some water and instead they force Orc Grog down Merry's throat instead. Once underway Merry lightens the mood by joking with Pippin that he was only play acting and must have been doing good as he fooled him too.
Saruman has additional scenes with the first explaining the devastation to Fangorn Forest. He argues with one of his minions about his army needing to be better armed, when told that there is not enough wood to fire the furnaces, he views the woods of Fangorn and then instructs that the trees of Fangorn are to be used to fuel the them. Next, a leader of the Wildmen swears allegiance to Saruman by cutting his hand with a knife.
-Eomer finds Theodred amongst the slain at a battle site along a riverbed and brings him back still alive at that point. He also notices the White Hand of Isengard on a dead Uruk-hai's helmet and that turns out to be the helmet that he places at King Theoden's feet.
The exchange between Eomer and Grima is more intense and he challenges Grima's authority to banish him, but Grima surprises him by producing banishment order that was signed by the King earlier in the day.
-Ugluk's Stand has tons of additional footage starting with an exchange where Ugluk explains to the Grishnak and the Orcs from Mordor that the Hobbits are to be brought to Isengard "alive and unspoiled", when asked what he means by "unspoiled", he explains that the Hobbits have an "Elvish weapon that the Master wants", and Merry tells Pippin that the Uruks think that they have the Ring which makes me feel better about similar comments in the RotK trailers. This part is also added to with more carnage! As Ugluk is explaining all this, an Orc is sneaking up behind Merry and Pippin to have a bite and that's when Ugluk beheads him. Rather than a simple lop off, the headless body towers about Merry and Pippin for a bit before falling over and becoming dinner.
-The attack of the Rohirrim is drawn out more and is a bit more graphic. But Pippins mysterious bonds still disappear, and then reappear. (He's under the horse hands free, then crawling over the ground hands tied again only to cut them off himself)
-The Dead Marshes are extended to include Frodo, Sam and Gollum stopping for a meal. Gollum laments about there being "No crunchy birds to eat". Sam taunts him as usual, but offers him some Lembas. Gollum tries it, chokes on it, and then curses Sam for being cruel. There's an intense exchange between Frodo and Gollum to which Gollum explains that "once the Precious takes hold, that it never lets go" which further explains Frodo's pity of him and makes the relationship between Gollum, Frodo, and The Ring that much more intense.
-The tracking of the Hobbits by Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli into Fangorn is added to with Legolas explaining to Gimli that long ago the Elves taught the trees to speak.
-The re-introduction of Gandalf is added to and very well done with Legolas begging forgiveness because he mistook him for Saruman. Gandalf states "I am Saruman.... Saruman as he should have been" .
Gandalf also states to them that "Something wonderful is about to happen that hasn't happened in a ling, long time. The Tress are about to wake up and discover that they are strong". He then tells Gimli not to be so "grumpy". hehe
-After introducing Merry and Pippin to the White Wizard, Treebeard is shown walking with them and singing as he goes along, as it turns out he is actualy singing to them Song of The Entwives!! Pippin asks if the are any young Ents and Treebeard says there are no Entings and that the Entwives are lost. He asks Merry and Pippin if they have seen any Entiwives in the Shire, and when they ask him what they look like, he laments, as it's been so long that he can't remember. He continues singing and hysterically Merry and Pippin are shown falling to sleep as he walks and sings.
-The next scene is Treebeard laying them to rest at his house stating that he was asked to keep them safe and safe they shall be. As he lays them down on the ground he tells them "Sleep now little Hobbits, heed no nightly noise!" I about jumped out of my seat! As I found out from the Features Disk, this was PJ, Fran's, and Phillipa's way of honouring the Tom Bombadil chapter.
-The extra exchange between Aragorn and Gandalf that appeared in some of the earlier trailers appears here before they depart for Edoras with Gandalf explaining that while Sauron is powerful, he has heard of the Heir of Isildur and that he fears him. Explains that hope remains while the Ring remains hidden and comforts Aragorn. Aragorn also comforts Gandalf by informing him that Sam is with Frodo.
-Merry awakes the next morning to find Pippin next to a running spring. Pippin explains a dream he had about barrels of Pipeweed and all the while drinking from the stream in a wooden bowl. As rumoured, Entdraught is in!! In fact Merry and Pippin get into a hysterical argument as Merry points out that somehow Pippin is now taller than he is. It gets even better as during the argument Pippin belches and seems to speak Entish! This happens several times until Merry figures out that it's the Entwash that's having this effect.
-Merry and Pippin start to wrestle about over the Entwash as Pippin does not want to share, until Merry wins and they both sit down at the base of a large tree and begin to drink. Well, this tree is none other than... are you ready?..... Old Man Willow!! And he promptly proceeds to open up and pull them in! Whoop! Treebeard shows up and saves them. Again using Tom Bombadil lines by telling Old Man Willow "You let them out again....Eat earth! Dig Deep! Drink water!"
-The exorcism of Saruman scene is a bit more drawn out.
-Grima's expulsion from Edoras is added to by after Aragorn stops Theoden from slaying him, he offers a hand to help Grima up. Grima nastily spits into Aragorn's hand (much to Aragorn's dismay) and then races out of Edoras.
-After Theoden asks for his son Theodred, a very moving funeral march for Theodred takes place. Thedred is on a bower dressed in kingly robes with his sword on his chest. As they place him into the prepared mound, Eowyn sings a powerful funeral dirge and the whole scene is very emotional.
-There is an added scene in Theoden's stable where men are trying to calm a wild horse. Aragorn speaks Elvish to the horse to calm him and Eowyn introduces him to the horse Brego.
-Saruman is shown more with Grima and he is obviously bothered by his defeat at the hands of Gandalf. Grima tells Saruman that Gandalf is not alone, that there was and Elf, a Dwarf, and a man with him. He describes the man as shabby, but that he bears a ring. He then described the Ring of Baradur which leads well into Saruman commenting on Gandalf thinking he's found the Lost King of Gondor.
-There's additional exchanges between Theoden and Gamling as he assures that they will not be defeated and vows to return to Edoras.
-The capture of Frodo by Faramir has been added to. When first captured, Frodo tries to explain their errand to him. Farmir tells Frodo that "the Enemy's war will make corpses of us all".
-There's a very touching exchange between Aragorn and Theoden back in Edoras as Tehoden laments that he had not been more of a father to Theodred.
-On the trek to Helm's Deep, they break and make camp. Eowyn approaches Aragorn and humbly offers him some of the stew she has made. This scene is hysterical as Aragorn scoops up something on his spoon that does not look appetising at all, and when he tries it to please her, it obviously tastes as bad as it looks! hehe Eowyn inquires of his age as she has heard rumours and guesses at about 60, he lets her guess a couple more, then tells her that he is 87. She remarks in awe that he must be one of the Dunedain. It gets better for as she's walking away, he starts to pour out the stew, but she turns back around and he ends up spilling it on himself trying not to let her see that he was pouring it out.
-The Warg battle is a bit more intense with just a little more battle footage.
-The questioning of Frodo by Faramir includes more dialogue and a flashback to Faramir's discovering of his older brother Boromir dead in his boat and the flashback ends with Faramir holding Boromir's cloven horn.
-There are further flashbacks as Boromir makes a moving speech after they reclaim Osgiliath. Faramir and Boromir celebrate the victory with a toast.
-Denethor is introduced during this flashback. Denethor praises Boromir his first born and berates Faramir for allowing Osgiliath to fall into ruin. Boromir sticks up for his brother while Denethor plainly states that he feels Faramir is useless.
-Denethor pulls aside Boromir and informs him of the call to the Council of Elrond and that he believes that the Ring of Power has been found. Boromir does not want to leave Gondor. Faramir offers to go in his stead, and Denethor further berates Faramir by stating that "Only my eldest son will not fail me!" and taunts Faramir by saying that Faramir's only intent is to "prove his quality".
-Boromir pleads not to leave Gondor, but Denethor demands that he bring him the Ring. The strain on Boromir is obvious and this actually helps the viewer to understand Boromir's motivation for his desire of the Ring in the first movie.
-There is additional footage of the Faramir's interrogation of Gollum by showing Faramir's men actually beating Gollum. They go so far as to kick him and he is held as another one punches him. He's actually beaten pretty badly.
-Extra footage of Eowyn at Helm's Deep where she challenges Aragorn in regards to her role and states that her place is to fight and begs to be by his side. Her argument end when during the exchange she states that Aragorn's men will not leave his side because "they love him". There's an awkward moment where you can tell that she just about professed her love for him by stating that and decides not to pursue it any further.
-There is more Entmoot, with Treebeard telling Merry and Pipping "Don't be hasty!" as they had just finished saying hello!
-The opening Helm's Deep scene is more drawn out by showing more of the effect that the oncoming Uruk-hai is having on the soldiers and refugees, which makes for a much better impact of the entire scene.
-The Huorns are in!! They are first shown when Treebeard is enraged by Saruman's devastation of Fangorn. He tells Merry and Pippin that those trees have other business while his is with Isengard and then the March of the Ents begins.
-The actual Battle for Helm's Deep is enhanced with some additional fighting.
-After victory is achieved at Helm's Deep the Uruk-hai are shown running into the woods. It's quiet for a moment and then the trees erupt in motion and much screaming is heard as the Huorns finish the battle by destroying them!
-A great exchange is shown between Gimli and Legolas as they finish their competition. Quite hysterical.
-After the trashing of Isengard, Merry and Pippin mock Saruman. Floating apples, and other food lead them to discover the storeroom where they promptly find two barrels of Long Bottom Leaf. (One barrel for each of them of course!)
-Back in Osgiliath after releasing Frodo, Sam, and Gollum, Faramir leads them to an area where there are sewers by which they can escape. He learns that Gollum is leading them to a staircase and upon hearing the name Minas Morgul, he throttles Gollum threatens him with his life if any harm should befall Frodo or Sam.
-And lastly, as they depart Osgiliath, Sam tries to explain Frodo's actions to Gollum and that he was trying to save Gollum's life. Sam says "No hard feelings...okay?" and Gollum agrees.