Saurmans uruk hai and Saurons mordor Uruk hai

[DolAmroth]

Ok now there is supost to be a difference between Saurmans uruk hai and Saurons mordor Uruk hai. We already know what Saurman's look like, but Saurons will proly have different armor and look maybe a lil more like orcs. But look at this pic from rotk the uruk hai at the Pelennor field has the same armor as Saurmans in TTT. So do they have different armor or not. but then this shows the Mordor Uruk Hai in different armor then Saurmans

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/8611.jpg

In this pic they have the same as Saurman's.
http://www.warofthering.net/photos/rotklegolas/images/legolasandgimlicalendar.jpg


And then I guess this is a Mordor Uruk Hai
http://www.warofthering.net/photos/rotkurukhai/images/urukcalendar.jpg

[The Moose]

i think that they will have different armour, but i can see the similarities in the pic of Pelennor. they will also be similar in look

[adt100]

I don't think you should take too much information from those tiny GW figures. We have seen other pictures of Mordor Uraks and they definitely do look different in both armour and faces etc.
As Moose says, you would expect them be similar in look anyway.

New poster Shagrat seems to be our resident expert on all things Orcish.

[Shagrat]

I'd hardly say I'm an expert, but if you look at pics from the ROTK game the Mordor Uruks look to have long hair like Saruman's Uruks, but different armour and skull cap kind of helmets. I'll try to find a picture.

[PsYkOoOoO]

so what if they are the same...they are the bad guys..they are all the same

[Shagrat]

http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1756002&object_id=546184&channel_id=74&page_title=Lord+of+the+Rings%3A+Return+of+the+King&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dcube%26pagetype%3D mediaimgthin&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fcube.ign.com%2Fobjects%2F5 46%2F546184.html

I hope this works. It gives you some indication as to how they'll look.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Different armor and different facial features, maybe the only difference in the two. Like it is already been said, orcs are orcs no matter what shape or size.

[Ryvyan]

Ok...

Uruk Hai are the 'engineered' orcs that Saurman came up with and they are not afraid of sunlight, unlike orcs who can die when they come in contact with sunlight.

Orcs are the original 'stuff' of everything by Sauron and all. In the books, Uruk Hai's don't spawn from the ground too -_- unlike the movies.

Uruk-hai's are stronger and bigger, I guess. But no, they aren't exactly the same.

[Kaluza]

Originally posted by Ryvyan
Ok...

Uruk Hai are the 'engineered' orcs that Saurman came up with and they are not afraid of sunlight, unlike orcs who can die when they come in contact with sunlight.

Orcs are the original 'stuff' of everything by Sauron and all. In the books, Uruk Hai's don't spawn from the ground too -_- unlike the movies.

Uruk-hai's are stronger and bigger, I guess. But no, they aren't exactly the same.

Orcs don't die in sunlight, just get weakened. And they are comparing Saruman Uruk-Hai vs. Mordor Uruk-Hai, not Uruk-Hai vs. Orcs.

[DolAmroth]

Originally posted by Shagrat
http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1756002&object_id=546184&channel_id=74&page_title=Lord+of+the+Rings%3A+Return+of+the+King&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dcube%26pagetype%3D mediaimgthin&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fcube.ign.com%2Fobjects%2F5 46%2F546184.html

I hope this works. It gives you some indication as to how they'll look.

It doesnt work

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Kaluza
Orcs don't die in sunlight, just get weakened. And they are comparing Saruman Uruk-Hai vs. Mordor Uruk-Hai, not Uruk-Hai vs. Orcs.

weakened huh...then why attack minas tirith when the sun is up?

[DolAmroth]

Well thats the whole point the drak clouds from Mordor spread out over Minas Tirith so theres no sunlight at all. Not until later when the Rohirrum come and the Witch King dies does some light peak through.

see look at these pics you can see what I mean.
http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/035.jpg

http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/trailer/images/109.jpg

[The Moose]

oy, DA, try some spoiler tage in ya post about WiKi

[PsYkOoOoO]

how about when the shot with the witchking swooping down towards minas tirith at the beginning of the traileR?there is sunlight right

[rzrbks]

Remember though, in the book, the WitchKing's death is foreshadowed and the Sunlight coming through is the "Heavenly" show that the tide is begining to turn. At least at that point in the story.

[Ryvyan]

Originally posted by Kaluza
Orcs don't die in sunlight, just get weakened. And they are comparing Saruman Uruk-Hai vs. Mordor Uruk-Hai, not Uruk-Hai vs. Orcs.

Orcs live in Mordor, not Uruk-Hai... Uruk-Hai is just the engineered version of orcs by Saruman. That's to say there're no Uruk-Hai in Mordor.

[DolAmroth]

Well this is supost to be a mordor Uruk Hai

http://www.warofthering.net/photos/rotkurukhai/images/urukcalendar.jpg

So then yes there are Uruk Hai in Mordor.

[Turin Turambar]

There are uruks mentioned in the book in Mordor also, though I don't remember exactly which page it might be found.

DA, that orc above is awesome! Is it just a random orc or could it be someone significant?

[Ryvyan]

Orcs are tortured/multilated (however you see it) elves that Sauron used.

Saruman wasn't satisfied with the orcs and so engineered Uruk which are a cross between men (they did not exist a few hundred years ago when Sauron was in power) and tortured elves. They can bear sunlight more and are bigger and stronger.

That's about all I know from past memories from reading, and I honestly don't think there're Uruks in Mordor unless Saruman sent his troops over to help. I'm getting confused now afterall and I might not be right but that's really what I think. *shrugs*

[DolAmroth]

Originally posted by Turin Turambar
There are uruks mentioned in the book in Mordor also, though I don't remember exactly which page it might be found.

DA, that orc above is awesome! Is it just a random orc or could it be someone significant?

Thats an Uruk Hai not an Orc it even says

[Brock Landers]

Mordor has their own brand of Uruk-hai that are just called "Uruks". They're more similar to regular Orcs, I'll be betting but more stronger. So, Sauron DOES have Uruks, just a different kind.

[Ryvyan]

Hmm, maybe he discovered humans? Heh... Cos they're mix-species... Which is rather nasty to think of since they are not born from the ground but through normal childbirth!

That brings us to the long-standing never-answered question: Are there female orcs/uruks?

[The Moose]

good question Ryvyan. but i've never really thought about that though

[DolAmroth]

Wait where do orcs come from. I mean like how are they born we know uruks come out of the mud but what about orcs.

[The Moose]

i think that they come out of the ground too, but i'm not too sure

[glecoq]

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