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lotrrotkbpf
10-07-2003, 08:20 PM
just wondering what you think about all the added arwen scenes in the movie.

DolAmroth
10-07-2003, 08:56 PM
they dont bother me at all but im just curious is your name lotr rotk bpf, whast bpf mean.

Oj
10-07-2003, 11:39 PM
I'm still bitter about them replacing Glorfindel with her in FotR.

The Moose
10-08-2003, 01:44 AM
overall, i think that they aren't that great, but they did them to expand the character of Arwen, and also to try and minimise the number of characters that need to be introduced in each movie

downflow311
10-08-2003, 02:45 PM
overall, they are the most boring parts of the films so far.

evenstar
10-08-2003, 03:35 PM
Spell the name correct first.
The changes didnt really effect me, its an adaption so changes are going to be made, still a great film.
I remember reading an interesting article on Torn about the character changes on Arwen, check it out.

scifi guy
10-09-2003, 07:37 PM
I don't really have a problem with them besides, Liv Tyler had me hypnotized with her beauty.

Glordreen
10-09-2003, 07:48 PM
I do wish glordfindel was in their besides her, in FOTR, but other than that I think the additi0ons are pretty good.

scifi guy
10-09-2003, 07:52 PM
Well the thing with Glorfindel is he wasn't in the book for very long. What was it like 5-10 pages? Its been awhile since i've read FOTR. With Arwen taking Frodo to Rivendell was a great way to introduce her character into the movies.

Glordreen
10-09-2003, 07:54 PM
I agree it was excellent, but I still wish it was glorfindel in that scene

king_of_hetzer
10-09-2003, 07:55 PM
I LOVED the Arwen additions! Spectacular, utterly spectacular!!!"If you want him, come and claim him."

I LOVED Elrond foretelling what would happen to her in TTT.

Queen Arwen
10-09-2003, 10:47 PM
I think that, for the most part, they were tastefully done and exquisitely filmed. Liv Tyler was amazing, and Viggo Mortensen must've unconsciously fallen in love with her!!!

Queen Arwen
10-09-2003, 10:47 PM
The chemistry between Liv and Viggo was magical.

luckyno
10-09-2003, 11:43 PM
I like the additions in the first one. It does remove a little used character. The additions in TTT actually were in the book, but were in the appendices (not TTT). I think that some of this could have been left for the EE. There was just a little too much. I read somewhere that Viggo felt more chemistry with Miranda Otto (Eowyn) than with Liv Tyler.

The Moose
10-10-2003, 01:09 AM
luckyno, not all of the ones in TTT were from the appendicies, but most of them were. aragorn never fell into the river and almost drowned

king_of_hetzer
10-10-2003, 07:50 PM
I hated that sequence of him drowning, almost dying. What was the point?

LOTRfan
10-10-2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Queen Arwen
I think that, for the most part, they were tastefully done and exquisitely filmed. Liv Tyler was amazing, and Viggo Mortensen must've unconsciously fallen in love with her!!!
Not trying to be picky but did you mean subconsciously? Otherwise it implies he was knocked out when he fell in love with her.:p ;) which wouldn't be very positive for Liv...

Queen Arwen
10-10-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by LOTRfan
Not trying to be picky but did you mean subconsciously? Otherwise it implies he was knocked out when he fell in love with her.:p ;)

Haha!! :p Yes, I mean subconsciously. :applaud:

The Moose
10-10-2003, 08:56 PM
i think he did mean sub rather than un. but could be accepted as unconcious, sa he didn't really think about it

LOTRfan
10-10-2003, 08:58 PM
He must not have thought about it when he picked such a female user name...QUEEN Arwen.:funny:
I'm being so mean today...and I agree that she must not have thought about it. I mix up sub/un consciously all the time.

Queen Arwen
10-10-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by luckyno
I read somewhere that Viggo felt more chemistry with Miranda Otto (Eowyn) than with Liv Tyler.

In the WB special on TTT in the DVD, Viggo stated that Eowyn is more right for him (Aragorn) than Arwen and that there's great affection between them. He didn't say anything about more chemistry with Miranda Otto though! Give me the source for that! I'd like to read it.

Queen Arwen
10-10-2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by LOTRfan
He must not have thought about it when he picked such a female user name...QUEEN Arwen.:funny:
I'm being so mean today...and I agree that she must not have thought about. I say the wrong one all the time myself.

Talk about picky!!! :p You better watch your back, 'cause I'll be there when YOU make a "boo-boo." Hehe! :clown:

The Moose
10-10-2003, 09:02 PM
that's what i was thinking

sorry if i offended you by calling you "he" rather than "she"

Queen Arwen
10-10-2003, 09:03 PM
It's quite all right, Moose. :) "All's well that ends well."

LOTRfan
10-10-2003, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Queen Arwen
Talk about picky!!! :p You better watch your back, 'cause I'll be there when YOU make a "boo-boo." Hehe! :clown:
O don't worry...you'll get your chance sooner than you think ;) Just wait till I start talking about the different battles and their sites in LOTR...I'm soo lost when it comes to that stuff.

Turin Turambar
10-11-2003, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by king_of_hetzer
I hated that sequence of him drowning, almost dying. What was the point?

I hated it too. So he falls and everyone thinks he's dead, and then he comes back?

It totally takes away from the sacrifice Gandalf made at Khazad-dum. Gandalf died and was reborn, and it was important for the course of the story because he becomes the White--thus the head of the order and more powerful than before.

Aragorn falls, has a dream of Arwen, a horse gives him a french kiss, and he catches up with everyone at Helm's Deep? Unnecessary. If they wanted him to be like a scout to find out how many march against Helm's Deep, they should have sent him with some soldiers after that battle with the wargs, fight a battle--15 against 10000--have him be the only one to escape and come back to report to Theoden. That would actually mean something.

LOTRfan
10-11-2003, 09:56 AM
I guess that would be better in some ways...but it be extremely far-fetched. And Aragorn would never "escape"...he'd keep fighting! But maybe the point of it was to show how Eowyn feels about Aragorn...

PsYkOoOoO
10-11-2003, 01:08 PM
or aragorn can be defeated as well and not one of those superheros..

Necross
10-13-2003, 11:22 AM
I think the additions with Arwen were great. I mean they needed to make her a much bigger part for the movies. She couldn't just pop in at the end of the last movie. I loved how she brought Frodo to Rivendell. I men Glorfindel wasn't that important. He didn't even ride with Frodo there.

Also the thing with Aragorn falling had to effects and people have already posted them. One was to give a true representation of how Eowyn felt, I mean we seen that there might have been an affection but that confirmed it. Secondly, It showed that Aragorn can be defeated as someone posted already. Plus they put it as a link so they could go to the part with Arwen which I thought was wonderfully done.

king_of_hetzer
10-13-2003, 11:38 AM
Necross, sexy post for only your second go!

Thanks a lot though, now I understand and appreciate Aragorn falling.

Necross
10-13-2003, 09:09 PM
lol thank you very much. I am always happy when I help someone see how great every part of the movies are. :D