TTT EE Scenes

[Dogbert0228]

Here's a good preview of what to expect for the new and extended scenes in TTT EE in November. Old news from our good friend, but still wanted to get it back up :)

Extended opening with Sam and Frodo: After Frodo wakes from his nightmare of Moria, the scene cuts to the hobbits carefully making their way down a cliff as the two towers title appears on the screen contrast to the theatrical version where the scene cuts to the hobbits making their way up a mountain and title pops up on screen. There is a better teaser leading up to Gollum, the audience really gets full of effect of the hobbits being followed, I believe there was a scene where we see Gollum's point of view watching them as rome around emyn muil.

The Urukhai: You see the rivalry between Mordor's orcs and Sauruman's urukhai. One orc asks Grishnak why "the master wants the halflings..." The reply is "they have some elvish weapon, the master wants it for his war..." It all still leads to the food fight.

Sauruman in the cabins of Isengard is extended a little, he just walks around more.

Great new added scene here: The fight at ford isens where Eomer comes upon the body of a wounded Theodred who was ambushed by orcs. Karl Urban rules! Nuf said.

Treebeard: New scene added with Treebeards home and the hobbits rest and then drink the ent draught where they realized they have grown in the next scene. The look on their faces is kind of deja vu..

Fangorn forest and the return of Gandalf seemed in tack, although when he speaks about what happened in Moria, it looked like some scenes of Gandalf battling the balrog were added. It's been months since I last saw the theatrical version of TTT.

The king of the golden hall: This scene is extended a little, mostly it is more wormtounge, we see the the rohirrium guards leading Grima to the steps as he protests, this scene is contrast to the theatrical version where after Theoden is exorcised the scene cuts directly to the steps of of the Golden hall and Wormtounge is thrown out. We then go to the funeral of Theodred when the beautiful Eowyn (Miranda Otto) sings a lament for her cousin. Very moving scene, Miranda has a beautiful voice.

There is are new scenes in the golden hall, in paticular Eowyn serves Aragorn some stew, the stew doesn't look too tasty, but when you have been living off Lembas for days anything looks good. Also if I remember correctly there was another small scene where Aragorn reveals his real age to Eowyn.

Extended scene in the Edoras stables as the Rohirrum guards along with Aragorn and Eowyn are seeing that the horses are saddled ready to depart to Helms deep. Brego is better introduced as he becomes wild, kicking and screaming. A calm Aragorn says "turn this fellow free... He has see enough war..." That is when Eowyn really begins to fall in love with Aragorn.

More conversations between Gandalf and Aragorn, including the scene we have seen in the previews where Gandalf and Aragorn are talking at nightfall about Sauron and Saurman tightenting the noose... Also talking about how war is upon us.

Some new scenes with Faramir. Faramir role is beefed up. Most notable is the extension of scenes and new scene added to the osgiliath sequence, during the sequence where the Gondorian army and Faramir rangers retake the city of Osgiliath the great new scene of the flaskback of Boromir being sent to Rivendell and the introduction of Denethor. Great new scene, the Denethor's cameo is well done and well placed. I gurantee you that when you guys see and meet denethor, you want jump through the screen and strangle him and tell him to show love to both his sons. Faramir gets no repect, which better explains Faramir hard nosed attitude and why he wants to take the ring to Gondor.

There are extended scenes of Sauruman and Worntounge in orthanc.

Helms Deep seemed longer and I could bet the farm in saying that I saw some new scenes in interlaced with others. Like I said above it has been awhile since I saw the theatrical version, so I can't remember what is new and what is not new.

The storming of Isengard has some new scenes added, what appears to be hurorns leave and appear at helms deep as the urukhai are fleeing the scene and the huorns take on all comers. This was a cool scene..

The ending is not really new, but more extended, it still has the same stuff but there are more scenes that lead up to it, like Merry and Pippin going in the store room, Legolas and Gimli claiming they each won the orc killing contest and of course Faramir showing Frodo, Sam and Gollum to the sewers of Osgiliath where he tells Frodo "Go with the good of all men..." Then Faramir snickered something at Gollum. Sam and Gollum make a semi truce there too.

[The Moose]

written by JEDI himself

[Slipknot]

Sick

[The Moose]

what?

[Slipknot]

i just meant like Great.... Sick, is liek me saying good, i liked the JEDI preview of the TTT EE

[Marvin Nash]

I can't wait.

[Slipknot]

ya me 2

[The Moose]

oh, now i understand

[PsYkOoOoO]

hahaa....'oh man this scene is sick~!!!'

unique way of saying...hmmm

[downflow311]

i wonder if NL will want this taken down as well.

[adt100]

Like I said in the other thread, it's been re-produced ovre at TORC in full form almost since day 1, and no trouble has come of it there.

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by downflow311
i wonder if NL will want this taken down as well.

ComingSoon! said we are free to post whatever we like, and I thought this needed to be back up.

[The Moose]

well, that was good of you to do that

[adt100]

Indeed! :)

[downflow311]

but why arent they throwing a hissy fit like they did with jedi over this?

[Slipknot]

ya i no, didnt they take down the whole thread wen Jedi posted this news.

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by downflow311
but why arent they throwing a hissy fit like they did with jedi over this?

There was apparently a different conflict regarding Jedi and his post that ComingSoon! assured me had nothing to do with this information, and that he isn't banned, so I should stop saying that he is and I should stop assuming I know why his post was removed.

[Gerald Tarrant]

Originally posted by Dogbert0228
There was apparently a different conflict regarding Jedi and his post that ComingSoon! assured me had nothing to do with this information, and that he isn't banned, so I should stop saying that he is and I should stop assuming I know why his post was removed.

I have read Jedi's thread about this subject and have a question that has been asked by others but never answered. Jedi does not show up as banned when I look at his profile but why can I not find him in the members list?

[Slipknot]

ya, i cant find him on the member list either... that is the thing that is confusing me.

[The Moose]

yeah. i asked that a few days ago. no one has answered yet

[Slipknot]

ooo, i dunno wut is going on... hes not on the member list but they say hes still a member. I dont no which to believe.

[The Moose]

yeah, it is difficult to believe

[adt100]

8.

[Slipknot]

ADT? y r u posting numbers? Will u stop.

[The Moose]

yes. i think that ya should stop. it is getting annoying

[Slipknot]

very annoying

[The Moose]

i know it is

[adt100]

That's a bit rich coming from you Moose. ;)

[The Moose]

and what exactly do you mean by that?

[adt100]

Almost every day I come in here these days (like today) the entire first page (and maybe more) of the LOTR forum has your name attached to the last post, 1 after the other in quick succession. It's as if you've just gone down them all in turn so you can have the last post or to boost you post count or something. If you've got things to say great, but half the time it's just 1 or 2 word comments that serve no purpose other than to push all the other threads onto the next page. And I'm the one accused of 'spamming'.

Do you have any idea how irritating this can be? This isn't a competition you know.

Furthermore, it seems no-one has actually 'got' the point of me posting the numbers I did in certain threads yesterday.

The connection is clear, I was counting up how many threads we had on almost exactly the same subject, in this case, the forthcoming TTT DVD. 8 threads was the number in just 1 and a half pages. Looking over them they could easily have been condensed into 2 or 3 threads. That would i) free up board space for other important and more varied threads, ii) keep all similar info in 1 place, iii) mean that people don't end up duplicating things and going over the same arguments time and time again because it will be all there to see. It only takes a tiny bit of effort to look down these threads you know before posting new ones.

[The Moose]

well, adt100, i can't help it if i don't have much to say on a certain subject. most of the time i like to be very to the point. i know that i may have overdone it a little with the last posting (just a bit) it was sorta to get my posting up. but truthfully, it was only about 5-8 threads a day, spread over a few days. (is this reply long enough for you??????)

[PsYkOoOoO]

yeah...it can be pretty irritating and boring to discuss bout the same topic over and over

[evenstar]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
yeah...it can be pretty irritating and boring to discuss bout the same topic over and over

Why, did I detect sarcasism? ;)

[PsYkOoOoO]

no?

[The Moose]

it can tend to be a little difficult to tell when typing, and not talking

[Dogbert0228]

JEDI, how well do the additional scenes tie up some of the loose ends?

Such as Aragorn/Arwen/Elrond story, Eomer and his group of Rohirrim, and the ents? I'm not saying anything was missing from these plot lines/scenes, but it was obvious there was more to tell, and it felt like we were being denied the whole story. How well does the EE complete the story (or at least this 1/3, anyway, lol...)

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

It ties up a good amount of the loose ends, especially things revolving Faramir, Aragorn's horse Brego. Theodred and his mortal injury. The most satisfying story is the Faramir story, I know some of the fans were disapointed the screentime of Faramir and his story. The EE does a much better job explaing not just him, but the whole family circle. There is not too much ent info, with the exception of the Hurons and the event that takes place at treebeards home (entdraught, etc.)


I gurantee you will happy with the EE.

[TheKing88]

Welcome back JEDI THE WHITE. Things have been a little boring without you. I just have one question to bother you with. Is the EE of the Two Towers 214min. or 222min.? I've heard both and 222 would make sense but I know it won't be a process of just putting in new scenes, so 214 seems to be correct. This has been drving me nuts for about a week. Any help would be much obliged. Once again, welcome back. Return of the King is getting closer by the minute!!!!!!

[DolAmroth]

I wonder what the new seens at helms Deep are I know the hourns seen is new but what else.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

222 minutes is the runtime of the EE. There is 43 minutes of new footage added to TTT.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Originally posted by DolAmroth
I wonder what the new seens at helms Deep are I know the hourns seen is new but what else.

I can't recall too much of the new stuff about Helms deep or if there was any, I mostly remeber the Hurons. The fighting was the same, there may have been some quick new scenes of the fighting.

[DolAmroth]

How long did the hurons seen last and if you dont mind like what happened in the seen or what part was it added into.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

It lasted long enough... I don't want to give too much away, you need to see it for yourself. It is awesome though.


Well, I 'll give you this:

The fleeing Urukhai from helms deep believe they are running to saftey in a forest, but this is no "ordinary forest" they are running into.

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
It lasted long enough... I don't want to give too much away, you need to see it for yourself. It is awesome though.


Well, I 'll give you this:

The fleeing Urukhai from helms deep believe they are running to saftey in a forest, but this is no "ordinary forest" they are running into.

That's freaking awesome. That COMPLETELY makes up for the Ents not appearing at Helms Deep. Great way to make up for it.

[DolAmroth]

I remember seeing a thing on tt dvd where Pippin says "look the trees there moving" and then treebeard says " they have business with the orcs."

[The Moose]

yeah, and back at helm's deep, we have seen eomer and theoden and the rohirrim chase out the remaining orcs, and they run into the forest and emoer says "Keep out of the trees"- something which some of the hourns may not like

[Dogbert0228]

I'm kind of jumping the gun here, but....

We all know the glimpse of Eowyn in the caves behind Helms Deep with her sword with blood on it and the orc around the corner... We've pretty much had confirmation that she doesn't appear in the EE fighting orcs... Could ROTK open with showing the aftermath of Helms Deep and what happens to all the women and children in the caves? Like, Eowyn taking care of the last few orcs that managed to get into the caves? Just an idea... I don't think they really need to show that, I think if they did, it would have better fit into the end, on the EE... But is it still a possibility?

[PsYkOoOoO]

gosh..the opening of ROTK will be the reforging of the sword....grrrrrrrrrrrr

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
gosh..the opening of ROTK will be the reforging of the sword....grrrrrrrrrrrr

I KNOW!!! Well, I think we know... Still have to wait until Dec. 26th for sure... :)

But what I'm saying is NEAR the beginning of the film, not the 'opening' opening.

[PsYkOoOoO]

we dont even have to confirm it actually..jedi told us already

[TheKing88]

Thanks Jedi. That's what I thought. Why does the official site say 214min. then? Is that without credits.

[Cirith Ungol]

Awesome.

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
222 minutes is the runtime of the EE. There is 43 minutes of new footage added to TTT.

Does that include those pesky Fan Club Credits? :rolleyes:

[The Moose]

yeah. last time, the credits were about 16 mins. do ya know how long they are this time?

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

No I don't... To tell you the truth I don't want to know how long the fan club credits are.

And King88, Yes that number is without the credits.

[The Moose]

oh, so you didn't get to see them when ya came out here to see it. but you feel as though you didn't lose anything out of it, so what the hey? it is actually really good to have you back, i know that has been said a LOT, but there have been times when we have been wondering about things, and saying "oh, JEDI would know" and we came up with answers, but as i said , good to have you back. oh, and thanks for answering my question. also, i don't have another one for you at the moment

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

It's not that I didn't see them, I saw a few seconds, but I didn't want watch them all the way through. It's like when I go to a theatre, when the movie is finished, I don't sit and watch the credits.


Anyway, I 'm happy I could answer your question, if U have another one just ask and I will try to answer it. Although please respect if I say that I can't answer it.

[The Moose]

i have respect for you jedi, and heaps of it

over at TORN, they have a report from this guy who lives near the studio where that are recording the score, and he says that they are nearly finished. can you confirm this? and if so, do you know if we will be getting any songs released on the radio or the internet early like last year? i know that there is already one out for the Matrix: Revolutions

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Oh yeah that's true. I'm not sure if U remember the last post I made before I had to leave a month back, I had said that Howard Score would begin scoring the film in Mid August. Then flashforward to now, he is close to finishing. Though he is not completely finished. Although the thing this person said about a final cut being completed by Sept 12th has to be a guess on his part, PJ will be working on this film up to it's release date. Let's not forget that PJ has to send the film to NL for review and they might say cut somethings out for time constraints.

The thing about songs being released early, I am not sure about. You see that was an exclusive through some UK classical internet radio station last year. Hopefully they will do it again. If not we'll just have to wait for late November or early December for the soundtrack.

[Cmoney]

so theres 40+ minutes of footage on the dvd. is that all in the movie or are they going to slap on something stupid like 20 minute fan club credits like fotr?

[The Moose]

jedi, any word on what the actual disc will look like? for FOTR, we got the ring on it, for TTT we got a subtle map on a black background, anu ideas/info?

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by The Moose
jedi, any word on what the actual disc will look like? for FOTR, we got the ring on it, for TTT we got a subtle map on a black background, anu ideas/info?

My guess would be art from John Howe and others which they'd drawn for TTT the book, and that PJ adapted into film, like was shown for FOTR EE... Maybe some cool concept and pre-viz art as well... I think they'll go for consistancy with the EE DVDs in terms of appearance.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Originally posted by Cmoney
so theres 40+ minutes of footage on the dvd. is that all in the movie or are they going to slap on something stupid like 20 minute fan club credits like fotr?


The 40+ minutes is in the film not the credits.

I think the disc will look like the EE of FELLOWSHIP except it will be red.

[The Moose]

cool. thanks

[adt100]

Originally posted by The Moose
jedi, any word on what the actual disc will look like? for FOTR, we got the ring on it, for TTT we got a subtle map on a black background, anu ideas/info?

I don't understand what you're saying there, but I expect the design on the disks and the menus interfaces will be much as Dogbert0228 describes. Consistency is very important.

We've already seen a brief look at the opening screen of the menus from the TTT EE preview.

[Dogbert0228]

Here's some will-power for you...

I've decided that instead if buying the EE with my own money the day it comes out, I'm asking for the special edition gift set for Christmas... Maybe I'll even wait until after watching the EE after Chritmas and THEN go see ROTK...
Crazy, I know, but I want my precious all boxed up with a cool statue and WETA DVD...

[adt100]

You'll never be able to resist the lure of ROTK ... never I tell you!

Once it takes hold of you, it never ... lets .... go!

Muwahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa.

[ILOVEKATIE]

I love that line from Gollum

[The Moose]

thanks adt100, but i was actually talking about the ROTK soundtrack. i wasn't that clear, was i?