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JEDI5150

05-05-2003, 08:12 PM

This from Sir Ian Mckellen, discussiing the death of Saruman:

"Saruman was to have died at the end of the second film but that this would now be the introduction to the third film. 'He falls from a great height and comes to a sticky end..."

So here is how the opening of ROTK possibly stands:

The reforging of Narsil

The Death of Saruman

Both these scenes will be part of the opening scenes of TROTK.

ShadowsInMordor

05-05-2003, 08:37 PM

yip yip

evilsquishy

05-05-2003, 08:50 PM

Crap - Saruman dying at beginning = less Christpher Lee:(

Macbane

05-06-2003, 02:45 AM

hopefully it will be a cool death scene, though.

gwaihir

05-06-2003, 03:30 AM

i don''t even know if i want to see it i mean it apparently has a huge change at the end and i recon it'll spoil the book

PsYkOoOoO

05-06-2003, 05:10 AM

i want the death or saruman to be the first scene...make it as cool as the beginning of TTT~!

adt100

05-06-2003, 05:18 AM

I'd have like to see a bit more of Saruman in ROTK, but with the ending altered as it is, how else would be a suitable way to bring his part of the story to an end?

PsYkOoOoO

05-06-2003, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by adt100
I'd have like to see a bit more of Saruman in ROTK, but with the ending altered as it is, how else would be a suitable way to bring his part of the story to an end?

where did u get yr avatar?

Lizwise Gamgee

05-06-2003, 08:13 AM

I find it a bit werid if he dropped to his death FIRST thing. It would be like "Um...wasn't expecting that."

evenstar

05-06-2003, 02:47 PM

hehe

Theyve spent alot of time though on Sarumanand as a result ended up with an amazing character, they wont let him go out lightly. whatever they do it will be spectacula, though the original ending would have been better :(

tiff_t_t

05-06-2003, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by JEDI5150
[B]this would now be the introduction to the third film. 'He falls from a great height and comes to a sticky end..."

Hmm, let's hope there's a little more to it than that!

LOTR RING

05-06-2003, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by tiff_t_t
Hmm, let's hope there's a little more to it than that!

Well lets gather possible theorys:

-Wormtongue pushs or stabs him (remeber the picture)
-Treebeard might do something?
-Merry and Pippin
-The "SPIKE"
-A stupid comic relief trip over a banan peel;)
-Eowyn?
-Saurons punishment!
- Suicide

JEDI5150

05-06-2003, 05:28 PM

I think the most solid one is the Wormtounge choice. Then Wormtounge gets his demise care of Legolas and a carefully placed arrow.

ILOVEKATIE

05-06-2003, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by tiff_t_t
Hmm, let's hope there's a little more to it than that!
Well ofcourse, Ian is not going to describe the scene in detail, its going to be great, I think.
I have a feeling this movie is going to move in a fast pace, it has to, theres so much to show!

LOTRfan

05-06-2003, 05:57 PM

:mad: Ahhhh! I'm soo mad. Why did Jackson have to change a good thing? Why does he need everything to be so dramatic? I loved the ending in the book. It showed Frodo's unending mercy even after all he had been thorugh. For those who don't know (and want to) - Frodo insists that no one harms Saruman even after he tries to kill Frodo back in the Shire. Then his own servant wormtongue, in an ironic twist, stabs him in the back (literally) Maybe it was necessary for him to keep other good parts of the book in the film. I'm willing to sacrifice that part as long as the rest of it is pretty true to the story.

adt100

05-06-2003, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
where did u get yr avatar?

Made it myself in PSP Animation Shop from those 2 pics scaled down. :)

Rizor

05-06-2003, 06:05 PM

Now I know about Saruman. Well, I did know...now I know the beginning!

Phil Parma

05-06-2003, 07:03 PM

I'm guessing Saruman's death will involve Wormtongue stabbing/slitting Saruman's throat, causing him to fall to his demise upon the spiky wheel that has been seen all over the internet. That way, he is both killed by Grima, and his machines. It seems to make the most sense that way.

LOTRfan

05-06-2003, 07:14 PM

Damn...i was hoping that pic was a fake- some cruel fan's demented idea of a joke. But it def. makes sense now. I hope they don't focus on it too much, it'll probably be gross and ruin the rest of the film cuz i'll be throwing up. That's a really bad way to go...even for Saruman.

Fanible

05-06-2003, 09:33 PM

Well if falling on a big spike is a cool death.

LOTR RING

05-06-2003, 10:05 PM

Heres the full report:

Someone then said they enjoyed the fight scene with Saruman in the first film, and asked if we would see something similar in the third film, Return of the King. Sir Ian replied in the negative, saying that originally Saruman was to have died at the end of the second film but that this would now be the introduction to the third film. 'He falls from a great height and comes to a sticky end', he revealed, before going on to say 'Peter Jackson is a huge horror film fan. That's why he cast Christopher Lee - who better to play Saruman than the biggest horror villain? Knowing that and Peter's great love for horror movies, it's inconceivable that Dracula wouldn't play some part in Saruman's death'.

I think that "Dracula" must mean Wormtounge.

Of course it doesnt mean the real Dracula:funny:
...and if it does I'LL be the one pushing people off heights to a sticky end;)

Macbane

05-06-2003, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by LOTR RING
I think that "Dracula" must mean Wormtounge.

Of course it doesnt mean the real Dracula:funny:
...and if it does I'LL be the one pushing people off heights to a sticky end;)

what he meant was that Christopher Lee played Dracula before, and since P.J's a big horror fan, he saw it was a fiting homage.

Fanible

05-07-2003, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by Fanible
Well if falling on a big spike is a cool death.

I think this guy has a point.

Macbane

05-07-2003, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by Fanible
I think this guy has a point.

...pun intended? ;)

PsYkOoOoO

05-07-2003, 05:36 AM

SOMEONE HAD SEEN THE CLIPS~!!!

according to TORN someone already saw the clips from ROTK and the EE of TTT...well here's the report:

"I talked to someone who saw some ROTK clips, including the ROTK preview for the TTT DVD and he said everything looks AWESOME so far (especially the battle at Minas Tirith), we have a lot to look forward to! I am not sure if this is going to be on the preview but one thing that he saw that stood out was his note on scenes that show Pippin becoming a "warrior." :)

"He also made a brief comment on the TTT extended DVD portion and says that a majority of it will be relationship focused and there will be much more on the Ents."

i wanna see pippin as a warrior~!

adt100

05-07-2003, 10:02 AM

Yeah, but how genuine actually is that? After all, most of that we already knew in reality, or could deduce it for ourselves.

I suppose it does at least serve the purpose of keeping us upbeat about the ROTK preview and TTT EE though. :)

Fanible

05-07-2003, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
SOMEONE HAD SEEN THE CLIPS~!!!

according to TORN someone already saw the clips from ROTK and the EE of TTT...well here's the report:

"I talked to someone who saw some ROTK clips, including the ROTK preview for the TTT DVD and he said everything looks AWESOME so far (especially the battle at Minas Tirith), we have a lot to look forward to! I am not sure if this is going to be on the preview but one thing that he saw that stood out was his note on scenes that show Pippin becoming a "warrior." :)

"He also made a brief comment on the TTT extended DVD portion and says that a majority of it will be relationship focused and there will be much more on the Ents."

i wanna see pippin as a warrior~!

Yeah... this isn't about to convince me that someone actually has. And most of us already know Pippin is suppose to become a warrior and learn how to ride a horse. Heck my description would of sounded more convincing.

JEDI5150

05-07-2003, 05:12 PM

Me either... The report is way to vague. The fact that the person wanted to be nameless says it all.

LOTR RING

05-07-2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by JEDI5150
Me either... The report is way to vague. The fact that the person wanted to be nameless says it all.

I agree, I can say that I watched ROTK preview and saw a wicked, cool batlle. Then blab a bit about the character devolopment of Eowyn and say how sad Sam looks, and get the same publicity of Mr.Unnamed.

Not that I want too!

Balrog of Moria

05-07-2003, 06:09 PM

The things people will do for a little attention
::shakes head::

LOTRfan

05-08-2003, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by JEDI5150
Me either... The report is way to vague. The fact that the person wanted to be nameless says it all.

Well, actually... if the person chooses to remain anonymous it is more likely to be legit. Some people who are involved with the studio have seen the movie and would definitely not admit to spilling info about them. It could get them in major trouble.

(i do agree however that what he said wasn't all that ground-breaking and he most likely is a fake. i just think being nameless doesn't mean they are lying)

Kris Hodgson

05-08-2003, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Phil Parma
I'm guessing Saruman's death will involve Wormtongue stabbing/slitting Saruman's throat, causing him to fall to his demise upon the spiky wheel that has been seen all over the internet. That way, he is both killed by Grima, and his machines. It seems to make the most sense that way.

I think this is what will happen

PsYkOoOoO

05-09-2003, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by LOTRfan
Well, actually... if the person chooses to remain anonymous it is more likely to be legit. Some people who are involved with the studio have seen the movie and would definitely not admit to spilling info about them. It could get them in major trouble.

(i do agree however that what he said wasn't all that ground-breaking and he most likely is a fake. i just think being nameless doesn't mean they are lying)

cool avatar LOTRfan..where ya got it?

PsYkOoOoO

05-09-2003, 08:07 AM

SPOILER ALERT~!!!PJ JUST DECIDED TO HAVE A RE-SHOOT OF A SCENE OF SARUMAN IN ORTHANC...AND AS A BIG FAN OF AUSTIN POWERS HE DECIDED TO HAVE A LITTLE TWIST TO THE STORY~!!CHECK OUT THIS PIC~!!

http://www.barrowdowns.com/mini-sar.jpg

Dave

05-09-2003, 08:52 AM

nice to see the big people geting along with the habbit's. I must say that PJ has done prity good at bringing the books to life, the next thing would to make "The Hobbit" come to life like others.

PsYkOoOoO

05-09-2003, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Dave
nice to see the big people geting along with the habbit's. I must say that PJ has done prity good at bringing the books to life, the next thing would to make "The Hobbit" come to life like others.

hope so~!

LOTR RING

05-09-2003, 04:10 PM

This person claims to have a sneak peak at ROTK (spoilers):

"I have a friend who told me about Return of the King, first thing, Sauron will be standing off against Aragorn in hand to hand combat.

Men of Gondor surround them both and Legolas shouts "Aragorn!" as a warning, then Aragorn with Anduril in hand rushes the Dark Lord who looked like he was in different armor than when we saw him in the prologue. It is not an even fight and Aragorn is nearly knocked to death as the countdown to the destruction of the ring begins. I guess the goal is to make the audience wonder if the ring will be destroyed before Aragorn is smeared all over Mordor!

Another thing I saw was the death of Saruman. Grima slits Saruman's throat and kicks him over the edge of Orthanc where he is impaled on the wheel, then Legolas shoots an arrow high into the air and is laughed at by Grima as it soars over his head, as Grima is mocking the seemingly inaccurate Legolas the arrow comes spiraling down straight through Grima's skull!"

adt100

05-09-2003, 05:00 PM

This was posted in the TORN news, (only w/o the 'friend' line, but supposedly from a credible source).

The Saruman death we know has been about for ages - the idea that it was all a clever hoax maybe just wishful thinking - as for the Sauron part the way it's written there all sounds a bit corny to me.

Not sure I go along with the suggestion of an audience surprise, after all it's not really a kind of film that is dependant on a big surprise twist (a la Sixth Sense), and it's not like people will expect the title character to be killed off anyway! We all know the what the biggest audience surprise will be (for those who've not read the book). :)

PJ was quoted as saying "You can't reduce him (Sauron) to being a big guy striding around in blakc armour, but he cannot be limited to a flaming eye, either". The 2 don't seem to add up.:confused:

Phil Parma

05-09-2003, 05:11 PM

Saruman's death is exactly as I predicted, minus the part about Grima gettting shot by Legolas. I'll be interested to see how the battle between Sauron and Aragon plays out on screen. It could be cool, or it could be cheesy...December is so far away....

JEDI5150

05-09-2003, 07:17 PM

It's just like I have been saying, Grima dies by the arrow of Legolas...

LOTR RING

05-09-2003, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by adt100
[B]This was posted in the TORN news, (only w/o the 'friend' line, but supposedly from a credible source).

Waht do you mean without the friend line? I just copied and pasted from TORN and it seems to have the friend line:

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1052497889

Rizor

05-09-2003, 11:11 PM

The Sauron bit scares me. He could have a nice cameo, but I don't exactly want him alive and kicking. :crosses fingures and hopes it's not true:

adt100

05-10-2003, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by LOTR RING
Waht do you mean without the friend line? I just copied and pasted from TORN and it seems to have the friend line:

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1052497889

Sorry I could have sworn that part was worded differently when I first saw it earlier, that's why I prseumed you'd got it from somewhere else. :o

PsYkOoOoO

05-10-2003, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Rizor
The Sauron bit scares me. He could have a nice cameo, but I don't exactly want him alive and kicking. :crosses fingures and hopes it's not true:

i want him to be alive and kicking~!!!

Timmy Digital

05-10-2003, 06:51 AM

Anything about Shelob yet?

JEDI5150

05-10-2003, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Timmy Digital
Anything about Shelob yet?

In time... Patience...

Mat

05-10-2003, 02:24 PM

Bah... I don't care anymore. Lets have Sauron in full armor kick Strider's arse all around the battlefield. Just GIVE ME ROTK NOW! They can change the story all they want, but to see it NOW! Patience has gone out the window for me.

Kris Hodgson

05-10-2003, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i want him to be alive and kicking~!!!

Hell Yeah!

LOTRfan

05-10-2003, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Timmy Digital
Anything about Shelob yet?

there is a picture from theonering.net with frodo in shelob's lair if you click on the link below:

http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6543

LOTRfan

05-10-2003, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
cool avatar LOTRfan..where ya got it?
Thanks...i got it at :http://www.originalicons.com/
click on "L" for lotr and there is also a lotr:ttt category there as well.

Brock Landers

05-10-2003, 06:04 PM

THE WAY I'D WANT TO SEE SAURON:

aigh, the battle at the black gate is alive and kicking. As things are going ill for our heroes, the gates swing open and out strides Sauron. Just as he's about to reach Aragorn..........THE RING IS DESTROYED

Rizor

05-10-2003, 06:04 PM

You guys actually want to see Sauron walk around in armor and kick everyone's arses?! He did it in the first movie, but it's completely unnecessary here. It's in stark contrast to the books and whatever happened to him not being able to take form yet? Doesn't he need the Ring?

I'm not totally opposed to this. If they can do it right, fine. But right now it sounds horrible to me. It's be alright if we just see him spectating the battle, but actually running around on the battlefield, doing backflips? (fin, i'm exaggerating)

Brock Landers

05-10-2003, 06:05 PM

LOTRfan

05-10-2003, 06:12 PM

i'm really scared sauron's gonna end up looking corny but so far the movies haven't disappointed.
Rizor: i haven't read the book in a while but didn't sauron physically fight aragorn at some point? maybe it just seemed like he was fully there.

Brock Landers

05-10-2003, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by LOTRfan

Rizor: i haven't read the book in a while but didn't sauron physically fight aragorn at some point? maybe it just seemed like he was fully there.

nope.

:)

LOTRfan

05-10-2003, 06:35 PM

*going upstairs to get my book and reread section* then *posting my important findings:)*...i hope.

LOTRfan

05-10-2003, 07:26 PM

Done. So I was wrong....but I was really close:D . Well, sort of. I was probably thinking of the Lord of the Nazgul who is just as frightening as Sauron. He fought Theoden (for those who want to know-) to Theoden's demise . The Lord of the Nazgul who rode "the winged creature...then greater than all birds...and its vast pinions were as webs of hide between horned fingers" was described as "black mantled, huge and threatening. A crown of steel he bore, but between rim and robe naught was there to see, save only a deadly gleam of eyes." The nazgul and his lord were prized by Sauron and i mistakenly equated The Lord of the Nazgul with the manifestation of Sauron when i looked back on the book.

So, in conclusion...i now agree that Aragorn fighting Sauron totally sucks, but i do see how, even if that scene doesn't follow the book, it is inspired by it.

JEDI5150

05-10-2003, 09:01 PM

The last I heard, Sauron does take a type of physical form, but as far as fighting goes, I never heard that. I doubt he will be in combat, but I think we are confident that he will move around and command his armies. He may do some little things. Just his presence is powerful enough, there is no need to go all out.

Mat

05-10-2003, 09:49 PM

Ah well, I have full confidence in PJ and crew to deliver, whatever they do with Sauron. I was sort of nervous for the last two films, but this one, I'm not worrying at all.

PsYkOoOoO

05-10-2003, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Mat
Ah well, I have full confidence in PJ and crew to deliver, whatever they do with Sauron. I was sort of nervous for the last two films, but this one, I'm not worrying at all.

i agree..

adt100

05-11-2003, 06:50 AM

Concerning PJ's 'Darth Vader/Sauron' comment:

1. This isn't Star Wars,
2. In SW, the Emperor is the ultimate villain, the ultimate force of evil - Darth Vader is merely his apprentice who undertakes his master's orders,
3. The Lord of the Nazgul can surely be created as villainous enough to satisfy this role in one-to-one combat,
4. Isn't it always said, that the best way to create fear and tension is to not actually reveal in full glory the evil guy/monster/whatever. Just as showing a full 360 shot of shelob in bright lights would diminish her potency to the audience.
5. Would having a Suraon walking around among the armies in full physical form completely tear a hole in the whole story, that he needs the ring to take physical form and thus return to cover Middle Earthg in darkness etc etc.

PsYkOoOoO

05-11-2003, 08:35 AM

JEDI5150

05-11-2003, 11:13 AM

I really don't believe that Saruon will be back in full power, I do beleive that he will take form. However, as far as fighting goes, I think who ever saw the footage was mistaken about what they saw. My guess is that they were looking at the mouth of Sauron. The mouth of sauron has armor like sauron and does fight in the battle at the black gate and does go toe to toe with Aragorn.

So, don't read into that report too much...

LOTR RING

05-11-2003, 11:56 AM

Heres something from TORN concerning THE PATHS OF THE DEAD:

"Kevin writes:
Now, the best place to find (film) spoilers may not be video game articles, but here's an excerpt from the IGN E3 preview of EA's Return of the King (the one based on the movies).
Here's the excerpt:
Gamers can defend the walls of Minas Tirith in the role of the white wizard Gandalf; lead a noble army of reluctant soldiers through the Dead Swamps and in doing so raise the Army of the Dead in Aragorn's, Legolas', or Gimli's boots; and, using every ounce of constitution left in your body, you'll deliver the ring to the fiery depths of Mount Doom as Frodo and Sam.
End excerpt.
Kevin writes that this seems to imply that while the "Army of the Dead" is in, the Paths of the Dead may be out; in EA's game at least.
The conclusion seems correct to me, in the EA game Aragorn will raise the Army of the Dead from the Dead Marshes. But whether that would apply to the movie as well definitely remains to be seen. I, for one, will await corroborating evidence from other sources before I accept that this is going to occur in RoTK the movie. "

Having Aragorn raise the dead from the dead marshs is a major change, and im uasualy angry at most major changes, but for some reason I dont think i will be that angry at this one if it is indeed true. Maybe because once I saw a makeing of TTT show in which this WETA guy said that the ghosts in the dead marshs are trapped spirits. I always felt sorry that they would be trapped their for eternity and never set free:(

Anyway I dought this rumor for the dead marshes isnt a shortcut to Gondor and they actualy say the dead swamps which could refer to the land after the paths of the dead. Waht do u think?

adt100

05-11-2003, 11:56 AM

well i dont get it..what's so bad abt the idea???i think its cool we get to see the big guy again...my mom said this when she watched FOTR,'so....sauron the great enemy remains as a glowing eyeball throughout the trilogy?'that wont work right...i told her that sauron wont take physical form in ROTK according to the book...and she thought that was dumb

As you know though PsYkOoOoO, in the book it doesn't seem daft at all, the whole point is that the ring has to be destroyed before Sauron gets his hands on it so he can't retake full physical form. Once he has then it's effectively game over. Evil has prevailed, the race of men wiped out, Middle Earth returns to darkness, all hope is lost etc etc.

It's a bit much IMHO to then expect Aragorn to bravely face Sauron in one on one combat, in a fight he surely cannot win. After all, Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's hand initially, but Aragorn didn't have that option, at which point the plot kind of breaks down for me. It just becomes too far fetched, too 'Hollywood' if you get my drift with another big confrontation just shoved in there for the sake of it. Besides, this is a fundamental part of the story, it's not like simply missing out Tom Bombadil, or having Elves at Helm's Deep.

I'm fairly confident that PJ will make/will have made the right decision in this regard, and likes Jedi says, it's most likely that the spy report confused the Mouth of Sauron with Sauron himself. After all, with the Witch King and Mouth of Sauron, how many all powerful evil guys do you actually need to face off in 1 film! :D

JEDI5150

05-11-2003, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by LOTR RING
Anyway I dought this rumor for the dead marshes isnt a shortcut to Gondor and they actualy say the dead swamps which could refer to the land after the paths of the dead. Waht do u think?

The paths of the dead are in the film, there are no worries there.

evilsquishy

05-11-2003, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by JEDI5150
The paths of the dead are in the film, there are no worries there.
Not true. I still have to worry that they'll be done well !!;)

JEDI5150

05-11-2003, 11:25 PM

I can understand that... I'm sure the WETA team will do a brilliant job on the paths of the dead.

BRussell

05-12-2003, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by adt100
As you know though PsYkOoOoO, in the book it doesn't seem daft at all, the whole point is that the ring has to be destroyed before Sauron gets his hands on it so he can't retake full physical form.I'm not sure that's the whole point. The whole point is that Sauron will become extremely powerful if he gets the ring; taking physical form may be one of those powers, but it's surely not the only or most important one. IMO giving Sauron physical form ruins nothing.

A film is a visual medium. Giving Sauron a physical form that fights is exactly the kind of difference one might expect between a book and a film. That and a little nudity from Eowyn for the ROTK extended DVD...

PsYkOoOoO

05-12-2003, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by BRussell
A film is a visual medium. Giving Sauron a physical form that fights is exactly the kind of difference one might expect between a book and a film. That and a little nudity from Eowyn for the ROTK extended DVD...

i agree~!:applaud:

LOTR RING

05-12-2003, 04:09 PM

THe Dead marshes rumour is proven wrong...Good:)

But heres a new rumour, probably another mistake but I though it was worth posting:

When Denethor is on the pyre, burning, we see a closeup of the palantir that he grasps, and in it, we see a flash-ahead to the destruction of Barad-Dur, and the Nazgul falling in flames. Gandalf is there, as well as Pippin.

Gandalf says to Pippin, "Sauron could not conquer him like Saruman, but he concealed the true hope, and so Denethor was deceived." In response, Pippin says, "None of us are safe then." Gandalf's response is "We cannot be truly safe while Sauron rules."

Shortly after this, Beregond comes in, and sees Denethor's body. He simply says, "Such a waste of one so strong against the East."

Im pretty sure this is a mistake, for this would be obviosly a CGI scene and their still working on some of that. Unless someone got hold of part of the script this would not be revieled. And if someone got hold of the script they would know more then this. Still their is probably a grain of truth within it:)

JEDI5150

05-12-2003, 05:16 PM

This one again smells fishy...

LOTRfan

05-12-2003, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by JEDI5150
The mouth of sauron has armor like sauron and does fight in the battle at the black gate and does go toe to toe with Aragorn.

Do you remember where that scene is in the book? Like the approximate chapter? I wanna reread that part.

Rizor

05-12-2003, 07:40 PM

I think the chapter is "The Black Gate Opens" in ROTK.

BRussell

05-12-2003, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i agree~!:applaud: The part about Sauron fighting or the part about Eowyn nude?
:)

Brock Landers

05-12-2003, 08:52 PM

Eowyn nude........HELL YES!!!

:applaud:

LegolasIsntSexy

05-12-2003, 10:18 PM

amen

LOTRfan

05-13-2003, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Rizor
I think the chapter is "The Black Gate Opens" in ROTK.

thanks!

JEDI5150

05-15-2003, 02:26 AM

Footage that is in the game...

Now this report is coming from a gaming convention where advance demos of ROTK the game were being previewed. I'm assuming that the footage that was shown was part of the GAME TRAILER. THE TWO TOWERS had a game trailer and ROTK will be no different.

Here it goes, REMEMBER we are talking actual movie footage:

Eowyn standing and looking sad. (this could be the scene that was in the first TT teaser)

Frodo and Sam climbing a mountain.

A shot of soldiers on horseback marching through a camp in a green grassy clearing.

The preview then went into game footage.

Lots of shots of Gandalf in Minas Tirith.

Archers in Minas Tirith taking aim and firing.

Gandalf on Shadowfax leading troops through the city streets.

Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas in battle.

Eomer on horseback leading a charge into battle.

Gondorian soldiers on horseback charging into battle right into a line of orcs

adt100

05-15-2003, 05:03 AM

The suspense is just sooooooooo much to bear.

December 17th, that's almost as long as a life-age!

PsYkOoOoO

05-15-2003, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by JEDI5150

Lots of shots of Gandalf in Minas Tirith.

Archers in Minas Tirith taking aim and firing.

Gandalf on Shadowfax leading troops through the city streets.

Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas in battle.

Eomer on horseback leading a charge into battle.

Gondorian soldiers on horseback charging into battle right into a line of orcs

IM MOST EXCITED BOUT THESE FEW SCENES...esp the last one...*drools*

adt100

07-05-2003, 10:40 AM

Right, it seems that the latest rumour is that, like in the book, Sauron doesn't take physical form in ROTK.

I just copied this from the COE website;

Posted by Tethra in the ROTK general thread:
"We have been hlding off on Sauron because there was word that PJ wanted to totally change his look for ROTK. Latest is that he will not make a physical appearance in ROTK now, which he never did in the book anyhow."
"My info came from New Line, but it was vague. I can tell you the rumours about Sauron appearing with a sword in the next film were wrong. They were based on a photo that was actually from the first film, showing Sauron with a dagger, not a sword. The scenes with the dagger were not used in FOTR. Everything I have read or been told suggests that Sauron will only appear as the lidless "eye", in ROTK, like the book. Of course, nothing is definte until we actually see the film."

Maybe PJ's earlier comments hinting a phyiscal role were i) PJ playing tricks on us ii) testing the water for fan reaction (seemed to effect Arwen at HD) iii) just misinterpreted, maybe there's some big dramatic moment between Sauron/Aragorn in the Palantir scene.

I think the rumour on the first page of this thread may just have been confusion between Sauron and the MOS. :)

PsYkOoOoO

07-05-2003, 01:07 PM

doesnt take phy form eh...im fine withthat..;)

Screwu2

07-08-2003, 12:36 AM

They should do it like this. Just all the people walking by and see a dead saruman. There are better ways too but we cant change anything can we.

evilsquishy

07-08-2003, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by adt100
Right, it seems that the latest rumour is that, like in the book, Sauron doesn't take physical form in ROTK.

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-001.gif *Sigh of relief*

The Moose

07-22-2003, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by Rizor
You guys actually want to see Sauron walk around in armor and kick everyone's arses?! He did it in the first movie, but it's completely unnecessary here. It's in stark contrast to the books and whatever happened to him not being able to take form yet? Doesn't he need the Ring?

I'm not totally opposed to this. If they can do it right, fine. But right now it sounds horrible to me. It's be alright if we just see him spectating the battle, but actually running around on the battlefield, doing backflips? (fin, i'm exaggerating)

Maybe he will not fight but just appear in physical form. I think that i remember that there was a shot with sauron on his throne in barad-dur, much like the one in FOTR, but he does not have the ring on. How do we know that he won't just appear in barad-dur seeming as though he wants the ring, maybe cut in with some shot when gandalf says something about the progress of the hobbits through mordor, and the distractions provided by aragorn, himself, and the TBOTPF and the battle at the black gate,.

We could just see him gazing down from in one of the towers at the black gate, watching aragorn, who then looks up and sees his, and then someone yells out "duck" or something like what happened in one of the other battle scence. Then when the ring is destroyed, he could fall out the window or something cliche like like that

The Moose

07-22-2003, 04:43 AM

i remember the shot in FOTR with sauron on his throne in barad-dur, with the ring on his finger, before he lost it, but i distinctly remember a shot of him in what seemed to be the same place, but he didn't have the ring on his finger. i think that we also saw his helmet (which i think is really awesome). He could just appear in barad-dur like that, or he could do this.

he could be in one of those towers at the black gates, watching the army of gondor assembling, and then he sends out mouth of sauron, (i do NOT want to see him do this, just see mouth of sauron walk out) and sauron could look down, and maybe aragorn could see him. he could also fall out/off and dent his armour and stuff like that when the ring is destroyed we could hear a shreik like the Nazgul's when he falls, but hey, that would be really cheesy put together, wouldn't it?