**My Official TTT DVD News Thread

[adt100]

Faramir, Boromir & Denethor in Osgiliath flashback -

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Saruman and Wormtongue in Orthanc -

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PJ with Faramir in Osgiliath -

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Faramir & Boromir in Osgiliath -

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Wormtongue in Edoras -

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Gimli and Legolas at Helm's Deep -

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Theodred's funeral cortege at Edoras -

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Theodred's funeral cortege at Edoras -

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[Smeagol]

Wow! Roll on November! :applaud:

[PsYkOoOoO]

the EE is looking good..even the menus...wow...

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by adt100
Gimli and Legolas at Helm's Deep -

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/8377.jpg

So we get to see not only an extended battle scene at Helms Deep in the EE, but the aftermath as well... Good.

I was going to post these thing morning, but I see someone beat me to them... Oh well, not a big deal. They're cool to see, and that's what I get for sleeping in til 9:30...

[PsYkOoOoO]

yep..we get to see the aftermath..as well as the aftermath of the ents attack

[Dogbert0228]

The picture of Boromir in his boat... I swear I can actually see the halogen light in the bottom of his boat... I know it'll look better in the film itself, but it's just "AGHH! It's fake! No!" Nothing can shatter my reality of LOTR being completely and utter truth!

Yeah, I still don't know about seeing the Ent's aftermath... I was skeptical when JEDI first told us about seeing Merry and Pippin in the store rooms of Orthanc at the end of the EE, and I still am... It just FEELS like it would fit so much better in the beginning of ROTK, after the apparent death of Saruman... Feels like raiding Saddam Hussein's palace while he's still upstairs watching TV in his boxers whatching ESPN...

[PsYkOoOoO]

its jedi...dont doubt his infos

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
its jedi...dont doubt his infos

I don't doubt it. I KNOW that's what we will see. I doubt if I'll like it in the EE rather than in ROTK... But we'll have to wait and see.

[adt100]

I can understand your point, but given all that's got to go into ROTK, and given the fact that the Ent attack and Helm's Deep happened in TTT, it would actually seem odd to be 're-visiting' these parts of the story and tying up loose ends at the beginning of the next film.

[Rizor]

Cool pictures. Is it just me, or does Boromir look like he's floating above the boat.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Dogbert0228
I don't doubt it. I KNOW that's what we will see. I doubt if I'll like it in the EE rather than in ROTK... But we'll have to wait and see.
oh ok..but if you see the trilogy as one big movie then you wont have that problem..

[Dogbert0228]

Good point. Thought I hate having to change disks in the middle of the movie. :)

[PsYkOoOoO]

haha..he seems as if he's floating indeed~

[The Moose]

it's just some lighting effect. in the real thing that was made, he was actually pretty deep in the boat

[PsYkOoOoO]

thats what i thought

[Dogbert0228]

It'll look better, or more real, in the film. It's just the lighting and angle.

[The Moose]

was really freakily real in the exhibition. cool as

[diasyjazz]

Originally posted by adt100
Boromir's body in Lorien boat -

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/8366.jpg


I really like this pic...it definately has a mystical feel to it and I am sure that the scene will envoke a lot of emotion...halogen light or not....

I also like the pic seeing boromir and faramir together and pretty much actually like seeing all of these pics...there are some news ones i think that we didn't see in previous pictures or the EE preview...right?

[diasyjazz]

Originally posted by The Moose
it's just some lighting effect. in the real thing that was made, he was actually pretty deep in the boat


Meh...I def don't think he looks like he is floating..its just the angle of the pic...as i said in my post, i think that it is a sweet pic that looks very atmospheric for the moment

[Rizor]

Haven't been reading up to much on LOTR lately, so this may have been seen before, but it's new to me! Well it's a pretty cool shot of the EE.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/placed/tttex_4disc.jpg

[ILOVEKATIE]

awesome

[Slipknot]

awesome indeed

[Queen Arwen]

awesome

[Queen Arwen]

Sorry I took everybody's comments on the EE. It's just so gorgeous that I was rendered speechless. Ah, me! What sad hours until November 18 dawns upon the world!

[Rizor]

Anyone know if those symbols on the booklet have anything to do with the movie? Or is it just some new art whipped up? FOTR had a green diamond.

[The Moose]

i think that the mark up there may be the seal of Theoden, or some other character.

like we saw bilbo's seal in FOTR, and we see theoden's seal in the TTT:EE (the pic of grima holding eomer's banishment proclamation, with the seal used at theoden's knowledge, but being a "zombie")

[Dogbert0228]

Cannot wait. November 18th is also when The West Wing comes out on DVD... I will be spending way too much money that day...

[The Moose]

it's only 69 days left

[PsYkOoOoO]

COOL TO THE MAX!!!WOW!!!

[The Moose]

th's for me here in NZ though. but changing over soon though for the rest of the world

[adt100]

Very nice. If only ROTK were red and TTT blue it would've been perfect! ;)

[The Moose]

i don't really see why some people are making such a big issue over the colours

[PsYkOoOoO]

hahaa..like i said...what's inside is the most impt..as long as everything is in i dont care if its red blue or bright pink

[adt100]

I just like things to be 'right'. :D

[PsYkOoOoO]

a perfectionist i see

[The Moose]

i care about what is on the inside

[Glordreen]

I would like it to look good, but its the film that counts

[PsYkOoOoO]

me too..

[Dogbert0228]

Anyway, getting AWAY from (FAR away from....) that stupid old color argument about the EE, lets talk about CONTENT... Anything, aside from the movie, people are just really looking forward to? I'm looking forward to the cast commentary, as well as PJ's, but I thought it a bit odd that John Noble (Dethenor) is also part of the cast commentary... Wonder what he'll have to say, since he doesn't have a huge role in TTT... Maybe he'll give something away for ROTK... Anyway, looking forward to it :)

[PsYkOoOoO]

bloopers..;)

[Gandollum]

Originally posted by Dogbert0228
Anyway, getting AWAY from (FAR away from....) that stupid old color argument about the EE, lets talk about CONTENT... Anything, aside from the movie, people are just really looking forward to? I'm looking forward to the cast commentary, as well as PJ's, but I thought it a bit odd that John Noble (Dethenor) is also part of the cast commentary... Wonder what he'll have to say, since he doesn't have a huge role in TTT... Maybe he'll give something away for ROTK... Anyway, looking forward to it :)

Yeah, i also thought of that too, but why is Sean Bean also in the commentary, seems strange, he'll probably have a minute of screen time in the film.

[The Moose]

same thing with John Noble(Denethor). i'm sure that they will have something important to say. why else would they be in there?

[adt100]

2 months to go. :D

[The Moose]

sobering thought

[Elendil11]

Scuse me, i'm new on this board, and i'm french (i may not write very well so try to be comprehensive please ^^).
And i've got a question wich i cannot answer .... i've searched everywhere on the web and impossible to find what i'm searching for.
There is my question :
Where can i find the music of the TTT final theatrical trailer ??!!
I think she's not on the cd ....
So please help me !!! Is she in Rotk, or somewhere else ??
Tell me where can i download it please ....

[Gandollum]

Its called "Requiem for a Dream"

[LOTRfan]

and try the program Kazaa. It may not be a good idea considering what's happening at the time. (they have sued users).

And your English is fine. My french on the other hand...:D

[The Moose]

try www.ninecompanions.net and go to their sound clips section
i got it from there. go into sound section, and then into TTT. it's somewhere around in there

[jediknight]

If anyone played the TT videogame that came out last year before the movie, there was a scene at the end that wasn't in the movie. The scene consists of Gandalf and Aragorn talking about how Sauron has come to fear Aragorn and has no idea about their plans for the ring. Does anyone know if this scene will be included in the TT EE?

[PsYkOoOoO]

...........yes.................

[jediknight]

oh sweet nector!

[PsYkOoOoO]

and pls check out this forum more often so that we wont need to repeat the same answers over and over again

[Elendil11]

Thank you everybody !!
A special thanks to lotrfan who congratulated me ^^
And don't worry, french is difficult, only frenches can speak ^^, coz we are the boss, i'm joking, don't worry (and if you need help i'm here)
thanks again, i'll download the music at once.
@++ (= see you soon or something like that)

[jediknight]

au revoir (sp)

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
and pls check out this forum more often so that we wont need to repeat the same answers over and over again

I agree. I hate to see a question like that... Especially on the wrong post, too... But it doesn't take that much effort to simply say yes or no once in a while, like you did. It's questions with long answers that are being repeated that I hate...

[The Moose]

'tis very annoying ahving to do that

[adt100]

I hadn't realised that the TTT EE page on the official site had been updated. I'm sure many will have seen the updated breakdon of the EE, but many won't have as it's not been posted in here before. :)


DISCS 1-2: The Feature
Feature (approx. 223 minutes)- Over 40 minutes of new and extended scenes
were added by Peter Jackson, including 200 new digital effects and new score by
Howard Shore:

Anamorphic widescreen 16x9 (2.35:1) version of the film
Dolby Digital EX Surround Sound
DTS ES 6.1
Stereo Surround

Four audio commentaries:
Audio Commentary 1: The Director and Writers
Peter Jackson (Director/Co-Writer/Producer)
Fran Walsh (Writer/Co-Producer)
Philippa Boyens (Co-Write)

Audio Commentary 2: The Design Team
Richard Taylor (WETA Workshop Creative Supervisor)
Tania Rodger (WETA Workshop Manager)
Grant Major (Production Designer)
Ngila *****on (Costume Designer)
Alan Lee (Conceptual Designer)
John Howe (Conceptual Designer)
Dan Hennah (Supervising Art Director/Set Decorator)
Chris Hennah (Art Department Manager)

Audio Commentary 3: The Production/Post-Production Team
Barrie Osborne (Producer)
Mark Ordesky (Executive Producer)
Andrew Lesnie (Director of Photography)
Mike Horton and Jabez Olssen (Editors)
Rick Porras (Co-Producer)
Howard Shore (Composer)
Jim Rygiel (Visual Effects Supervisor)
Joe Letteri (WETA Digital Effects Supervisor)
Ethan Van der Ryn (Supervising Sound Editor/Co-Designer)
Mike Hopkins (Supervising Sound Editor)
Randy Cook (WETA Animation Designer & Supervisor)
Christian Rivers (WETA VFX Art Director)
Brian Van't Hull (WETA VFX Cinematographer)
Alex Funke (Miniatures Director of Photography)

Audio Commentary 4: The Cast
Elijah Wood (Frodo)
Liv Tyler (Arwen)
Sean Astin (Sam)
John Rhys-Davies (Gimli)
Billy Boyd (Pippin)
Dominic Monaghan (Merry)
Orlando Bloom (Legolas)
Christopher Lee (Saruman)
Sean Bean (Boromir)
Bernard Hill (Théoden)
Miranda Otto (Éowyn)
David Wenham (Faramir)
Brad Dourif (Grima)
Karl Urban (Éomer)
John Noble (Denethor)

DISCS 3-4 : The Appendices
Two discs of all-new bonus content, including multiple documentaries, galleries
and interactive maps. Documentaries that were started with The Lord of the Rings:
The Fellowship of the Ring Special Extended DVD Edition are continued here,
delving deep into the stories and experiences unique to The Two Towers.

DISCS 3 - The Appendices Part III: "The Journey Continues..."

J.R.R. Tolkien - Origins of Middle-earth (Video Documentary)

From Book to Script - Finding the Story (Video Documentary)

Designing and Building Middle-earth

- Designing Middle-earth (Viedo Documentary)
- Weta Workshop (Video Documentary)

Design Galleries

- The Peoples of Middle-earth
- The Realms of Middle-earth

Gollum

- The Taming of Smeagol (Video Documentary)
- Andy Serkis Animation Reference (Video Documentary)
- Gollum "Stand-in" (Video Documentary)
- Design Gallery

Middle-earth Atlas (Tracing the journeys of the Fellowship) (Interactive map)

New Zealand as Middle-earth (Interactive map)

DISC 4 - The Appendices Part IV: "The battle for Middle-earth begin..."

Filming "The Two Towers"

- Warriors of Middle-earth (Video Documentary)
- Cameras in Middle-earth (Video Documentary)
- Production Photos

Visual Effects

- Miniatures
- "Big-atures" (Video Documentary)
- Galleries
- The Flooding of Isengard Animatic
- Weta Digital (Video Documentary)
- Abandoned Concepts

Editorial: Refining the Story (Video Documentary)

Music and Sound

- Music for Middle-earth (Video Documentary)
- The Soundscapes of Middle-earth (Video Documentary)
- Sound Demonstration: "Helm's Deep"

"The Battle for Helm's Deep is over ..." (Video Documentary)


Now, how can anyone even begin to question the value of such a DVD when you get soooooooo much! :applaud:
The 'Abandoned Concepts' title seems interesting, I wonder if that could possbily include more mention of Arwen at Helm's Deep, or if that will be striclty 'off-limits' for the DVD.

[Ghostofzion2003]

sadly hugo weaving didnt do a commentary again ohh well hes not in TTt that much i image hes in more of RotK but the special features look good!

[Gandollum]

I hopE Viggo does a commentary for ROTK EE, hes one of my favorite characters in the whole movie. I dont know why he doesnt want to do it, does anybody know why?

[Wyn]

I hope so too Gandollum I really wanted him to do the TTT commentary, Surely hes gotta do the ROTK one *hopes*

I was most surprised to see David Wenham is doing the commentary. I`ve never even seen an interview with him and he never seems to be on the "official" programmes, previews.
I nearly fainted when i saw he was doing the commentary!! ;)

[PsYkOoOoO]

im surprised to see john noble...

anyway..i think its because viggo mumbles too much

[downflow311]

he talks too quietly. he'd be hard to hear.

[Mr. Frodo]

Originally posted by adt100


Audio Commentary 4: The Cast
Elijah Wood (Frodo)
Liv Tyler (Arwen)
Sean Astin (Sam)
John Rhys-Davies (Gimli)
Billy Boyd (Pippin)
Dominic Monaghan (Merry)
Orlando Bloom (Legolas)
Christopher Lee (Saruman)
Sean Bean (Boromir)
Bernard Hill (Théoden)
Miranda Otto (Éowyn)
David Wenham (Faramir)
Brad Dourif (Grima)
Karl Urban (Éomer)
John Noble (Denethor)



No Gandalf the White? :mad: :confused: :(

[adt100]

I suspect Ian may return to commentate on ROTK given his more prominant role, and Viggo just has to do that one.

[jbailey84]

did Christopher Lee have commentary on the Fellowship EE? i can't remember.

[Mr. Frodo]

yes

[The Moose]

he said things here and there. some of them were rather interesting

[Gandollum]

Christopher Lee was alright. I didnt really enjoy the cast commentary that much. The only good thing about it were The Hobbits; Dom, Billy, Elijah and Sean, they were the most interesting and were fun to listen to. The rest were quite boring.

[Smeagol]

I can't be bothered to look through 13 pages, so I'll just ask:

How many hours (roughly) of documentary material will we get on the TTT EE DVD? I guess it won't be quite as much as was on the FOTR EE DVD because some things - like the WETA Workshop tour documentary on Disc 3 - have already been done and need not doing again.

FOTR had about 6 hours worth of exclusive material, so I'm expecting perhaps 4 or 5 hours worth on the TTT DVD.

Any further thoughts?

[Smeagol]

Actually, I've just looked on the official site and there is, in fact, a WETA Workshop documentary on TTT's 3rd Disc. I wonder what the point of that is? Not another tour from Richard Taylor, surely? :p

And another thing, am I right in saying that on the FOTR EE DVD, Howard Shore gives the least snippets of interviews? He only appears on one of the documentaries (Music of Middle Earth) and even that is repeated on the Production Commentary. I hope the editors of the DVD include more of him this time round.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Smeagol
Actually, I've just looked on the official site and there is, in fact, a WETA Workshop documentary on TTT's 3rd Disc. I wonder what the point of that is? Not another tour from Richard Taylor, surely? :p

And another thing, am I right in saying that on the FOTR EE DVD, Howard Shore gives the least snippets of interviews? He only appears on one of the documentaries (Music of Middle Earth) and even that is repeated on the Production Commentary. I hope the editors of the DVD include more of him this time round.

Dude we have heard way too much of Howard Shore whining about why he has to re-write music for the EE's... We have heard it on both FOTR TE and TTT TE... I suspect he will whine again on the ROTK TE DVD as well... (During previews of the respective EE)

[The Moose]

well, i suppose that we will get that again, but i also think that we will get the same amount of special features this time around

[downflow311]

i could care less about the special features. i just want to see the EE.

[The Moose]

some of the features can drag on, i admit that, but some of them are funny, and others interesting. still, the EE is the thing that most people will buy it for

[Gandollum]

Yeah, they're really good, i really enjoyed the script and tolkein docs. The Hobbit featurette was hilarious. I think its a great dvd, when i saw it for the first time it seems you're a part of the movie making and that you're actually there in New Zealand filming it with the cast and crew.

[adt100]

I'll be looking forward to the SFX section - bigatures, CGI, Gollum etc. And of course anything to do with the Hobbits which was really fun to listen to in FOTR EE. The commentaries by PJ, Boyens and Walsh should be interesting too, hopefully giving more details on a number of the changes they made in the adaptation.

[The Moose]

the commentaries were one of the best features, IMO

[Faithless Eye]

yeah the commentarries were great.

i also liked anything to do with designing the creatures, etc. great.

[Smeagol]

On the TTT EE DVD there is a feature called: "The Taming of Smeagol". I wonder what that could be about [obviously about Gollum, but what exactly?]?

[Gandollum]

This has got to be the weirdest review for the dvd. Click on the link below.

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_41048.asp

[popcopy]

Random question... any official word on the RotK tickets in the EE??? or is it going to be a surprise???

Hmm...while I like all that the EE has to offer, I really want that Gollem statue....maybe i'll get both.

[The Moose]

i think that some people in the US will get them , but we never got any here in NZ

[diasyjazz]

Originally posted by popcopy
Random question... any official word on the RotK tickets in the EE??? or is it going to be a surprise???

Hmm...while I like all that the EE has to offer, I really want that Gollem statue....maybe i'll get both.

Havn't heard anything official about that...but we have heard about the rebate..which does sound nice and if they did that last year too then maybe they will also be doing what they did last year with the EE and the ticket..so who knows...thats just kinda a thought there for ya.

what are people thinking of getting anyways....

[Queen Arwen]

I hope ROTK tickets are in the EE!! A double reason to get it!

I'm building my LOTR collection to all three TEs and all three EEs. It's the only way I'll be getting my LOTR fix! :D

[adt100]

I've never heard of that in the UK, though it's unlikey to affect how many times the person buying the EE actually sees ROTK anyway. These are the die-hard LOTR fans we are talking about!

[adt100]

38 days to go. :)

[The Moose]

cool. doesn't seem to be that long

[adt100]

It isn't. Only 32 days now. ;)

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Queen Arwen
I hope ROTK tickets are in the EE!! A double reason to get it!

I'm building my LOTR collection to all three TEs and all three EEs. It's the only way I'll be getting my LOTR fix! :D

Well said, Queen Arwen!

I hope they will have tics for ROTK like last year they had tics for TTT
(I regret taking an 'unbeliever' to see TTT and using the ticket... I hope I can make up for that...)

[adt100]

For all you UK LOTR fans I've just come across a pretty amazing online deal for TTT EE. The RRP is £34.99, of course as with all DVD's no-one charges that much, and just as with FOTR EE the pretty standard retail prices is £24.99. Even at Amazon it's only £23.99

However, at a site called dvd.co.uk I've found it for only £17.99!, which is only a £1-2 more than regular 2 disk DVD's. They also have free UK shipping! :eek: :D

http://www.dvd.co.uk/product.asp?id=EDV9188

Now, I don't know if this is a mistake, but ther's no indication of it on the site. How can they do it for so little? :confused:

[Shagrat]

Hi I've been browsing these boards for a while and I've decided to join. I have a few questions for Jedi the White about TTT EE as I know he has seen it.

1) You say there is more tension between the Uruks and Mordor Orcs. However, do you actually see them meeting up? I always felt that the film was let down slightly by the fact that there encounter was never explained

2) Is there a lot of fighting at the Fords of Isen? Do you actually see Theodred die? Do the Rohirrim fight Orcs or Uruks?

3) Finally, in your original report you say that the Gandalf/Balrog encounter and the fighting at Helms Deep may have been extended, but you weren't sure because you hadn't seen the theatrical edition for a while. Now that you have, can you shed anymore specific light on this? I noticed that it was the Uruk leader who killed Haldir. Aragorn runs up the stairs, and then somehow appears from behind Haldir. I figure he kills the commander before grabbing the Elf. Do we see this in the EE?

I know there is a lot here but I'd be really grateful if you could see your way to answering them. Thanks.

[PsYkOoOoO]

!!?!?!??!?balrog and gandalf fighting at helm's deep1?!?!?!?!?

[Shagrat]

I meant Gandalf/Balrog fight AND (separately) the Battle of Helms Deep. Sorry if that was unclear.

[PsYkOoOoO]

oh oh sorry...i didnt read properly...make much more sense now...

[KenM]

Originally posted by Mr. Frodo
No Gandalf the White? :mad: :confused: :(


Ian Mcallen(SP?) did not do comentary on FoTR EE either.

[adt100]

He did on my copy.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Yeah, he did on mine too.. it was like, in groups or something.. their was The Hobbits [Elijah, Sean, Billy, Dom] 2 Hunters [Orlando, John ] and The 2 Wizards [Ian, Christopher]

[KenM]

I must be thinking of someone else then. I know there is a major character that does not do commentary. Might be Viggo.

[PsYkOoOoO]

yes its viggo...he did not do the commentary..i think one big reason is because he mumbles a lot..just look at some of his interviews..he tend to mmmmmmmm all the way...mumbles a lot...so i guess that MIGHT be one of the reason why he never did the commentary

[The Moose]

he better do one for ROTK, seeing the part he has to play

[diasyjazz]

So its true then that no Viggo commentary on the EE..well sad, I would love to sit and **drool** oops did I say that, I meant to say sit and think about all that he is telling me about the making of the movie. Anyways, I am sure that I will have fun with some of the other commentary!

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Originally posted by Shagrat
Hi I've been browsing these boards for a while and I've decided to join. I have a few questions for Jedi the White about TTT EE as I know he has seen it.

1) You say there is more tension between the Uruks and Mordor Orcs. However, do you actually see them meeting up? I always felt that the film was let down slightly by the fact that there encounter was never explained

2) Is there a lot of fighting at the Fords of Isen? Do you actually see Theodred die? Do the Rohirrim fight Orcs or Uruks?

3) Finally, in your original report you say that the Gandalf/Balrog encounter and the fighting at Helms Deep may have been extended, but you weren't sure because you hadn't seen the theatrical edition for a while. Now that you have, can you shed anymore specific light on this? I noticed that it was the Uruk leader who killed Haldir. Aragorn runs up the stairs, and then somehow appears from behind Haldir. I figure he kills the commander before grabbing the Elf. Do we see this in the EE?

I know there is a lot here but I'd be really grateful if you could see your way to answering them. Thanks.

1) No, everything was the same untill we get to the outskirts of Fangorn, then the tension begins.

2) The scene at the battle at the ford Isends is fast. Bodies everywhere. Total loss for Eomer and his men. You need to see this one for yourself

3) The balrog scene, I still believe was extended a little. I tell you, I swear I saw scenes that were new to me and still are since the release of THEATRICAL EDITION. Also Fangorn was extended a little, there was some more talking between Gandalf and the 3 hunters. Including a part where Gandalf foresees the ents going to war. I saw shots from new angles and a couple quite a few new ones. There are a couple new VIOLENT Scenes in helms deep. The haldir scene is the same. The other things that is extended at helms deep is the scenes that take place at the hornburg when Aragorn returns. You remember the scene where Aragorn is walking with Theoden, he starts talking how saurumans uruks will "break upon this fortess like water on rock..." How we see a wide angle shot of them walking then the next scene is Them having that little debate on how "gondor will answer..." Well, there is some new footage added in there Theoden is walking and inspecting his soldiers.

Just try to hang on, Nov.18th is very close...

[Glordreen]

Yes it is close indeed.

[KenM]

Jedi, I heard in TT EE, there are more scene(s) with Enyon(SP, Miranda Otto), fighting in the caves during the Hel's Deep battle?

[Dogbert0228]

No, Miranda Otto is not shown fighting in the EE in the caves behind Helms Deep, despite the images from several old previews of TTT that showed her with a bloody sword... A bit curious why we don't see this, but according to 'someone' who's seen the EE, Eowyn doesn't kick any orc arse in TTT EE...

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

It is true, I am sorry to say. That scene scrapped pretty much immediately after they filmed it. So the only glimpse of Eowyn fighting the uruk in caves is the one we all have on TTT preview on the TFOTR dvd theatrical version.


Also, I wanted get the final word on what I thought was a extended balrog vs. Gandalf sequence. So I went ahead and called one of my friends and he said NO there is no extension there, only the stuff in Fangorn is extended, the flashback is NOT.

Sorrry guys, but hey TTT:EE is still worth it.

[The Moose]

cool, thanks for all the info Jedi. more balrog would have been cool, as would Eowyn fighting, but some things just don't happen, do they?

[Shagrat]

Shame about them not meeting up and the lack of Gandalf/Balrog additions.

Was it orcs or uruks Eomer and his men were fighting?

And you mentioned new violent scenes at Helms Deep. I heard of a cut scene where Aragorn knees an Uruk in the stomach and then slits his throat with his Elven dagger. Has this made it into the Extended Edition? Thanks.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Yeah, Eomer's men were fighting orcs not Urukhai..

Yeah, I do call that Aragorn move in helms deep, at least something similair to it...

[tiff_t_t]

Bump!

[TheKing88]

I'm kinda disappointed that they aren't extending the Gandalf/Balrog fight. I was hoping the EE would show how they made it to the top of the mountain. Thanks again for the info Jedi. What was your favorite new sequence in the extended cut?

[adt100]

I've heard a few people talk of being disapointed by no extended Balrgog/Gandalf fight, like on the endless stair, but that's really something that I've never been bothered about them extending at all.

An abandoned concept mentioned in the TTT EE docs is about a 'slime Balrog' though, whatever that means.

[Shagrat]

The slime Balrog is the Balrog as he emerges from the water. There's some concept pictures in the Art of TTT book. Lots of steam is coming off him and a lot of his lava/magma is kind of thick and gloopy.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Yeah, it would have been cool... I have said this already, the film reguardless of things like a balrog vs. gandalf extension or battle of helms deep extension, still stands strong on its own.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by TheKing88
I'm kinda disappointed that they aren't extending the Gandalf/Balrog fight. I was hoping the EE would show how they made it to the top of the mountain. Thanks again for the info Jedi. What was your favorite new sequence in the extended cut?

i wish this scene was extended as well. my favorite part of the movies so far.

[Glordreen]

Yeah it was an excellent opening scene.

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by TheKing88
I'm kinda disappointed that they aren't extending the Gandalf/Balrog fight. I was hoping the EE would show how they made it to the top of the mountain. Thanks again for the info Jedi. What was your favorite new sequence in the extended cut?

I'm not. This was a silly way to open the movie, IMO. The opening shot should have been Sam and Frodo walking down into the Emyn Muil in an identical shot to the final shot of FOTR, although this time with the camera in front of them.

The Gandalf vs the Balrog sequence should have logically occured when he meets up with the 3 companions in Fangorn Forest, after the bit where he says: "...through fire...and water!"

PJ said that there would be no recaps from movie to movie, just a seamless continuation of footage linking all 3 instalments, yet at the beginning off TTT we spent the first 20 minutes going over old ground and recapping "what happened previously on LOTR". Heck, PJ even inserted some FOTR footage of the spoiling of Isengard in TTT. How lazy! :mad:

And get rid of that tacky homage to Space Odyessey 2001! :mad:

[downflow311]

first off, it wasnt 20 minutes. that scene was about 7 and a half minutes. and it was not a recap at all, it just showed what happened to gandalf after he fell in moria.

[jediknight]

Actually the only footage used from Fellowship was Gandalf telling the Balrog that he can not pass. Then the bridge collapses and Gandalf says fly you fools. Which could of only taken of itself about 2 minutes. The part where he's falling & fighting was new stuff, therefore, it wasn't a recap.

[Dogbert0228]

Hey. I was reading the review of special features of the appendices of TTT EE, and I found out the final say of why there were so many rumors about Arwen at Helms Deep: Because she was there!!!

"There is also some talk of abandoned concepts such as Arwen fighting at Helm's Deep. This extremely controversial story element actually made it to the filming stage and the disc includes some on-the-set footage of Arwen fighting side-by-side with Aragorn at the battle."

Awesome! I never liked the idea of her being there, but this should be cool to see.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Yeah, there are some pics of her fighting at helms deep on these boards somewhere and you can still see here if you look closely in the theatrical version.

She was digitally removed.

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Yeah, there are some pics of her fighting at helms deep on these boards somewhere and you can still see here if you look closely in the theatrical version.

She was digitally removed.

Really? Wow, I would have assumed they'd just have left out that scene. It must have been a VERY last-minute decision...

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Yeah, she was invloved with the whole Forth Eorlingas scene.


Check this out Dogbert0228, if you watch the charge of the white rider scene and when Gandalf and the exiled rohirrum get to the bottom, when the close ups of Eomer happen, look directly behind him, you will see someone in a red costume, that is her.

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Yeah, she was invloved with the whole Forth Eorlingas scene.


Check this out Dogbert0228, if you watch the charge of the white rider scene and when Gandalf and the exiled rohirrum get to the bottom, when the close ups of Eomer happen, look directly behind him, you will see someone in a red costume, that is her.

Okay, cool. Interesting that something like that would be left... Oh well. Doesn't affect the movie quality in any way :)

[DolAmroth]

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Yeah, she was invloved with the whole Forth Eorlingas scene.


Check this out Dogbert0228, if you watch the charge of the white rider scene and when Gandalf and the exiled rohirrum get to the bottom, when the close ups of Eomer happen, look directly behind him, you will see someone in a red costume, that is her.


whoa thats so weird she is there. But why She didnt fight at Helms Deep Did they like change it or something.

[The Moose]

i can't really see any real reason as to why she should be there

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Yeah, they changed her role, then rechanged it the very last minute. I believe she was supposed to accompany Haldir and the elven army to helms deep. Another thing, if you look at the scene where Theoden and Aragorn are charging out of the deep, it appears there are TWO of LEGOLAS, they digitally put a another rider on top of Arwen. Look for legolas as they charge down, then look right behind him, you see another white horse and blond haired rider.

[The Moose]

cool, thansk for that jedi. will look out for that when i'm next watching it

[adt100]

That's the first thing I looked for in thos scenes when I got hold of the DVD. If you use the freeze frame on a large PC monitor you can see quite a few shots with Arwen in or 'CGI Rider'.

[Boods]

just saw it ..amazing .. the one about the two legolas' is very clear but the woman in red is too quick to be sure i think .. lol

[PsYkOoOoO]

i think its dumb..why use another legolas?that will be a obvious mistake!!why not use another rohan rideR?they all look the same frm afar!

[downflow311]

as long as they didnt put Arwen in at HD im happy. thank god for that!!!

[adt100]

It isn't another Legolas PsYkOoOoO. The thing that makes her look a little like that though is i) the fact she's on a white horse and ii) the fact that they made her hair blonde in order to further disguise her appearance (the Rohirrim were largely blonde haired).

During the 'Forth Eorlingas' charge you don't really see much that much of 'Arwen', but you can see very clear pictures of her face during the fighting shortly after they ride down the ramp.

[Elessar504]

Look here:

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/5820.jpg

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/862.jpg


and "two Legolas":

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/5821.jpg

[downflow311]

thanks for the confirmation elessar. im so happy that they took that damn arwen out of HD. and that does look like 2 legolas, you think they could've done a better job with that, at least make a random rohirrim soldier.

[adt100]

You'd think they would have had enough footage to completely cut out those few shots of her fighting outside, someone mustn't have been paying enough attention!

As for her charge down the ramp, all they've done is colour her her and added a green cloak, like the the other Rohirrim wore. It's not actually a CGI replacement.

[Elessar504]

Yes, i think the "two legolas" is too obvious but is better "two legy" that "one arwen" in helm's deep.

[downflow311]

i completely agree.

[Isidien]

The return of the king preview isn't that good it doesn't show that many clips there are more clips in the trailer but then i can only watch that on the internet, in my opinion the return of the king preview just makes me want to see it more

Cant wait for the extented ttt it should b wicked 42 minutes of extra or extended scenes how great is that!!

[PsYkOoOoO]

thats the whole point of a preview..it makes you want to see more..doesnt mean its bad

[downflow311]

i agree with psykooo's explanation;)

[PsYkOoOoO]

i wonder how liv tyler felt when she got digitally removed frm the battle..i mean..think abt this..from the dvd we know that helm's deep took 2 weeks of night shoots...and endless fighting after fighting..now that's very tiring..now imagine you are liv..doing all the fightings...stressing yrself out..doing endless night shoots fighting orcs..then in the end yr face wont appear during the battle..a waste of effort i'll say

[downflow311]

yeha, but i dont like liv tyler so it doesnt matter to me;)

i bet she was pissed though :funny:

[PsYkOoOoO]

i wouldve been pissed..

[evenstar]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i wouldve been pissed..

therefore, I bet she had a part to play in those tiny snipets when you can just catch her in the background at Helms Deep

[PsYkOoOoO]

after all those efforts she gets to appear in those tiny snipets wow

[evenstar]

Yeah well she got enough screen time elsewhere by saving drowning Aragorn

[downflow311]

which was an incredibly lame scene.

[adt100]

I thought that was Brego the wonder-horse, not Arwen. ;)

[downflow311]

kind of a combo of both. but nontheless, the worst scene of the trilogy.

[evenstar]

Originally posted by adt100
I thought that was Brego the wonder-horse, not Arwen. ;)

Brego the wonder horse; yep - that bout basically sums that scene up

[Smeagol]

There are a few lame scenes in TTT, but for me the worst one is the Nazgul peek-a-boo scene in Osgiliath. How the hell are we supposed to be frightened of the Nazgul in film 3 knowing that a tiny little arrow scared it off at the end of film 2? :evil:

[Isidien]

Why is Arwen even in so much of the trilogy she says hardly anything in the book why has she been given such a big part?

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by Isidien
Why is Arwen even in so much of the trilogy she says hardly anything in the book why has she been given such a big part?

She had a bigger part than Saruman in TTT and I find this wholly unacceptable. I will be interested to hear PJ's reasoning behind his decision. I think Liv Tyler plays Arwen really well and I liked "The Fate of Arwen" scene very much, but Christopher Lee was criminally underused, seeing as his digs were part of the film title. ;)

[Isidien]

Yea i no wot you mean im not really keen on the scene with Arwen, Aragorn and Brego the horse
i think saruman had a bigger part in the fellowship of the ring but saying that there was a big scene at the end of TTT in the book which isn in the film so that might bein ROTK but i still just dont understand why PJ chose 2 have a sub-plot on Arwen to be honest she isn't that important

[evenstar]

She isnt that important (as much as I love Liv's Arwen) but I feel PJ went for the Aragorn/Arwen/Eowyn triangle as it can be seen to be make interesting cinema. For instance- my friends who havent read the book are more interested in who Aragorn ends up with than what happenes to Frodo.

[downflow311]

yeah its a girl thing. PJ just added them to spark some female interest:sleepy: :p

[Isidien]

Originally posted by evenstar
She isnt that important (as much as I love Liv's Arwen) but I feel PJ went for the Aragorn/Arwen/Eowyn triangle as it can be seen to be make interesting cinema. For instance- my friends who havent read the book are more interested in who Aragorn ends up with than what happenes to Frodo.
Really? why? yea its interesting cinema but its just not relavent and you can easily tell that Aragorn will end up with Arwen anyway but i dont hate Arwen in any way because i feel really sorry for her because Arwen ends up dying in the woods by herself and as for Eowyn i love Faramir, shes lucky!

[Dogbert0228]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i wonder how liv tyler felt when she got digitally removed frm the battle..i mean..think abt this..from the dvd we know that helm's deep took 2 weeks of night shoots...and endless fighting after fighting..now that's very tiring..now imagine you are liv..doing all the fightings...stressing yrself out..doing endless night shoots fighting orcs..then in the end yr face wont appear during the battle..a waste of effort i'll say

Sucks for her.

But good for the film, and if she's dedicated to making this epic as great as possible, she should understand.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Smeagol
There are a few lame scenes in TTT, but for me the worst one is the Nazgul peek-a-boo scene in Osgiliath. How the hell are we supposed to be frightened of the Nazgul in film 3 knowing that a tiny little arrow scared it off at the end of film 2? :evil:

actually in the books..legolas shot and killed it with one single arrow when they were along the anduin in FOTR...so...

[The Moose]

that was something i really wanted to see in FOTR. there's always the chance that PJ could have taken that element and sliped it into ROTK somewhere, but i can't really see where though

[PsYkOoOoO]

dont think it will fit...

[evenstar]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
actually in the books..legolas shot and killed it with one single arrow when they were along the anduin in FOTR...so...

Did it actually kill him?

[Boods]

Originally posted by evenstar
Did it actually kill him?

i dont think so .. just scared it away like faramir's arrow if i remember correctly ..

[Smeagol]

Nazgul can only be killed if and when the Ring is destroyed, I think - like Sauron himself.

Go Frodo! :D

[PsYkOoOoO]

i remember legolas was asking gandalf when they met him in fangorn..about the flying shadow they met...legolas was saying that it was too dark to see anything but a shadown flying...and he shot at it..then gandalf said something about the its steed being killed but the nazgul will not die...it will eventually return...i remember thats what it said...thats when the fellowship was attacked by the orcs from the eastern bank...and the nazgul came to their rescue and the orcs sorta cheered...if u guys remember

[evenstar]

I apologise- Legolas did kill the winged beast, but not the Nazgul

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by Smeagol
Nazgul can only be killed if and when the Ring is destroyed, I think - like Sauron himself.

Go Frodo! :D

You know, I've always had this really funny thought. After Frodo destroys the Ring him and Sam come out of The Cracks of Doom and there's the Nazgul flying at him. The ring getting destroyed hasn't gotten to them yet and when they swoop down at the two Hobbits, they stop dead in their tracks, spur their beasts. They're hunted and terrorized Frodo and Sam for awhile.

They stop dead in their tracks, Frodo waves to them 'bye, bye' and then Sam gives them the finger. And then, POOF! No more Nazgul

Rather silly thought, but I laugh all the time about it. :D

[Turin Turambar]

The Nazgul are weak in the movies, with only that annoying cry. The book makes them 100 x's more terrifying, IMO.

[ILOVEKATIE]

I think they are going to show us what they're really about in ROTK!!! Anyway, I like they're cry. It's cool.

[PsYkOoOoO]

or fran walsh's cry to be more accurate..

anyway..i thought in the movie they were scarier...in the books it talks too much..it actually had a conversation with gaffer and talked to farmer maggot..in the movie all it said was ,'shire...baggins...' and the scream...which is what i really like about it...

[The Moose]

IMO, they Nazgul were damn good in the book. iu hope WiKi isn;t ahrd to hear due to his "voive" being so damn highly pitched. one thing i don't really like about the books is the fact that the Nazgul aren't in TTT.

in ROTK, i want to see the message that Gorbag and Shagrat get when in the Pass- " Nazgul Uneasy" and then somehting else baout that, think it was doubling teh guard- that's something that i think will be cool- sorta show the hierachy of the Black Forces

[Turin Turambar]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
anyway..i thought in the movie they were scarier...in the books it talks too much..it actually had a conversation with gaffer and talked to farmer maggot..in the movie all it said was ,'shire...baggins...' and the scream...which is what i really like about it...

What I meant was in the books, the cry made everyone's hearts freeze, and he actually described exactly what was going on to each person. The Nazgul brought fear with them. But in the movie, you don't really see that as much. And the scream is over-used. I think it would have been better if like the area got darker when they drew near and any fire/candles turned to like a sick green or blue color, just so we can see that their meer presence brought terror to the people. Only when they cry do we see people cower, so their effect is diminished IMO.

[obsessedwithsnl]

I remember seeing FOTR in the theater. This was when i didn't know that much about LOTR (i had only read the Hobbit) and i was so freaked out by the nazgul. Then when i saw TT i kinda forgot about the nazgul then i heard the scream and freaked me out again. I think they're the best bad guys ever.

[redman]

Originally posted by obsessedwithsnl
I remember seeing FOTR in the theater. This was when i didn't know that much about LOTR (i had only read the Hobbit) and i was so freaked out by the nazgul. Then when i saw TT i kinda forgot about the nazgul then i heard the scream and freaked me out again. I think they're the best bad guys ever.

they werent nearly as scary in TTT though. Although they had hardly any screen time compared to FOTR.

[PsYkOoOoO]

i bet they will be horrifying in ROTK..
FOTR--SCARY
TTT---COOL(with the flying steed and all..)
ROTK--SCARY AND COOL

[The Moose]

that's probably the best way to think of it PsYkOoOoO

[AXLPendergast]

Since this is the TTT DVD thread, I won't make a new thread about this, but the official site will be posting clips from the TTT EE documentaries for the next few weeks. First up is about the humanity element of the Helm's Deep battle

[Elessar504]

Someone have the direct link?

I cant find the video :-(

[AXLPendergast]

Well here's the link to the page it's on, I don't know how to get a direct link to the video

http://www.lordoftherings.net/homevideo/video/index.html?BattleScene

[Elessar504]

Thanks a lot!!!

[AXLPendergast]

It's an interesting look at how HD could have been just another action sequence, and how PJ proved again his incredible skill at creating emotional impact in these films. Damn he's a great director.

"They're going to EAT you!"

New clip already up! "Sounds of the Beast"! The Fell Beast is a donkey!!

[AXLPendergast]

On the main page, just go to THE TWO TOWERS ON DVD AND VHS (with the Nazgûl pic). This is where all of these clips will be placed.

[Elessar504]

The Gollum statue partner of Smeagol statue of the collector's dvd EE

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/placed/gollum1103_header02.jpg

The complete information HERE (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=gollumasgollum)

[adt100]

eewww! I would have far preferred a mini Orthanc to that personally.

[AXLPendergast]

Along with the clips being put on the official site, there are already 5 more on www.lotradventure.com, but you need to have bought the theatrical edition DVD and have your Adventure Card handy to access it. The clips are pretty short and end in weird spots, but still exciting to see. Head on over, if you can.

[AXLPendergast]

sorry, here's the link:
www.lotradventure.com

[downflow311]

i didnt buy it the TC....oh well. not much longer til the 18th

[Rizor]

On this forum, someone got their hands on the EE and posted some packaging shots.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=328489

Less than two more weeks....

[adt100]

Even the packaging is head and shoulders above all the other DVD's out there!

[adt100]

One quick thing I've noticed (and I'm aware this will sound really nerdy and pedantic) but it looks like the outer box has been toughened slightly, maybe with a stronger laminate, compared to the FOTR EE case.

I had a bit of a rant about the FOTR EE on here before, great packaging but the card was a bit thin, and the join on the template was ridiculous. It meant they got dog eared very quickly in shops. Maybe the guys at NL took note for once and changed it!

[Samwise Gamwich]

Ok here is some news...

I went down today (my first complete payday for my new job) to Blockbuster to put money down on TTT EE...

They have 25 copies already there in the store... I paid my $24.99 and watched them place my name on an actual copy of TTT EE but refused to sell it to me....

I offerred them $100 to sell it to me today...

They turned me down cold....

Doggone it!

[downflow311]

hmmm..... i might go and try that at my blockbuster....

[downflow311]

they let me get the ROTK game early, so maybe they'll gimme the TTT EE early.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by downflow311
hmmm..... i might go and try that at my blockbuster....

Let us know if you have better luck than I did...

[AXLPendergast]

There's an overwhelmingly positive and totally comprehensive review of TTT EE DVD at http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/lotrtwotowers4disca.html

Sorry, only one Easter Egg discovered so far, the Andy Serkis/Gollum MTV acceptance speech

[PsYkOoOoO]

good enough...ahhaa..i loved that speech

[adt100]

Keep looking for the ROTK footage/trailer Easter Egg. My guess would be somewhere on Disk 2 as with the FOTR EE.

[AXLPendergast]

Yeah, they didn't say anything about "The Voice of Saruman" featurette thing we've heard about

[Rizor]

What's "The Voice of Saruman" featurette?

[Rizor]

Just looking over the digitalbits' review and it looks like they really opened up some of the featurettes from the FOTR EE. Some of them (like the music featurette) are about twice as long!

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by AXLPendergast
There's an overwhelmingly positive and totally comprehensive review of TTT EE DVD at http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/lotrtwotowers4disca.html

Sorry, only one Easter Egg discovered so far, the Andy Serkis/Gollum MTV acceptance speech

Bloody hell! That's the first review I've seen in which the extra features are examined!

I make it 205 minutes (3 hours 25 minutes) of footage on Disc 3 and 224 minutes (3 hours 44 minutes) on Disc 4. That's roughly 70 minutes of more documentary footage than the FOTR appendices. :applaud:

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by Smeagol
Bloody hell! That's the first review I've seen in which the extra features are examined!

I make it 205 minutes (3 hours 25 minutes) of footage on Disc 3 and 224 minutes (3 hours 44 minutes) on Disc 4. That's roughly 70 minutes of more documentary footage than the FOTR appendices. :applaud:

YES!!!!!!!!!!! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[Isidien]

Has anyone found any easter eggs on the FOTR dvd?

[Isidien]

Originally posted by Isidien
Has anyone found any easter eggs on the FOTR dvd?
FOTR EE sorry!

[diasyjazz]

anyone seen the Gollum statue yet..can ya give me any details descriptions of him please???

[adt100]

Yes, - it's at the top of this page.

On a side note, they just added another daily TTT EE preview clip to the official site.

This one's called 'Sword Mastery' (shame they're only about 20 seconds long!) :)

http://www.lordoftherings.net/homevideo/video/index.html?FellBeast

[Isidien]

Originally posted by adt100
Yes, - it's at the top of this page.

On a side note, they just added another daily TTT EE preview clip to the official site.

This one's called 'Sword Mastery'. :)

http://www.lordoftherings.net/homevideo/video/index.html?FellBeast
O yea how could i miss that! i read everything on all the pages aswel where is the easter egg?

[adt100]

I was talking about the Gollum figure diasyjazz asked about.

As for the FOTR EE Easter Egg -

Go to the main menu, then highlight the chapter/scene selection option. Select chapter 48. A screen will show up with "Fan club credits" in the centre, and a column of chapters on the right. Go to 48, and move the cursor down from there. An image of two towers will appear. Click on that for the four minute "Two Towers" preview shown at the end of "Fellowship's" theatrical release in early 2002.

[Isidien]

O ryt ok sorry its so confusin! but im still a **** for missing it anyway

[evenstar]

I cant get the above on mine- I think it has something to do with R1 and R2 players. Anyone knows how I can get it, be much appreciated.

[Rizor]

Originally posted by evenstar
I cant get the above on mine- I think it has something to do with R1 and R2 players. Anyone knows how I can get it, be much appreciated. The easter egg?

Here's a more visual guide at getting the two easter eggs. The first is for the MTV gag and the second is the TTT preview. If your DVD is R2, it doesn't have the MTV skit because it was deemed too crude. :D

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/375/375119p1.html

[Dogbert0228]

This comes from TORN...

"I just want to confirm to you that TTT Extended DVD is being shipped out early by many online companies. I got mine this morning and can also confirm that the Gollum MTV music awards acceptence speech is on the first disc as an easter egg, and accessable in exactly the same way last years MTV parody was on the FOTR extended DVD."

Sounds cool, but I want the PJ acceptance speech, and something special for ROTK, too...

I guess as more and more people get the EE, we'll see what else they find :)

[adt100]

The latest TTT EE preview clip has just been uploaded to the official site.

This one is called 'Score Cameo'.

http://www.lordoftherings.net/homevideo/video/index.html?PeterJacksonGong

[adt100]

DA has also posted the following link of some more TTT EE screencaps -

http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/group/1105

[adt100]

More screencaps posted by 'TurnoftheTide -

http://upload.justtalk.net/files/dt1.jpg

There are 21 in total, just change the number in the address to between 1 and 21.

[Glordreen]

I should have pre-ordered online.

[Cipher Jo]

Well fellas. I get to watch the EE tomorrow and I'll have my FULL review up. I can't wait.

[Isidien]

Originally posted by Cipher Jo
Well fellas. I get to watch the EE tomorrow and I'll have my FULL review up. I can't wait.
How do u get to watch it?
Dam it y cant someone give me a copy

[SkankinFrodo]

Man I am BUSTING here. I can not wait to get the EE. I wish it were tomorrow damn it. It really is driving me mad.

[PsYkOoOoO]

its only a week...relax..:)

[adt100]

New desktops now available for TTT EE on the official site -

http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_desktops_dvd.html

[havok_69]

here are all the scenes from tt ee The film opens as normal with Gandalf's fight with the Balrog, but after he hits the water and Frodo wakes up, we see the two hobbits climbing down the sheer rock face of Emyn Muil. It is there that the "Two Towers" logo now appears. After Sam mentions the rain clouds, there is a short scene where the duo is seen taking shelter from the storm while Frodo spots a shadowy figure trailing them from a ledge above. Gollum leading the Hobbits out of Emyn Muil is expanded slightly with more shots of Frodo and Sam chasing the slinker through the rocky maze.

As in the theatrical cut we see the Uruk-Hai carrying Merry and Pippin through the plains, but this time when they stop it isn't because they smell "man flesh," but because the Mordor Orcs are waiting for the Uruks to have a little argument. During this scene, Merry is looking rather ill, so Pippin convinces the Uruk to give his pal some of their disgusting looking ale. It turns out Merry was just playing sick, and it looks like he fooled even Pippin.

Saruman's montage about the state of Middle-Earth and Rohan includes some additional footage where he converses with an orc about arming all of the Uruks. The orc says they do not have enough fuel for the forges, and Saruman looks to Fangorn and tells them to burn it down. There is also a scene where the wild men swear their allegiance to the wizard.

Moving on to Rohan, we see Eomer and gang finding Theodred's body and returning it to Edoras. Upon being banished, he tells Wormtongue how he has no command over the kingdom, and Wormtongue produces a paper signed by Theoden that banishes Eomer.

In Fangorn, before Gandalf returns, there is a brief moment between Legolas and Gimli where the elf explains how the elves awoke the trees and taught them to speak. When the wizard does show himself there is an extremely cool moment where, before he bows, Legolas apologizes for attacking Gandalf as he mistook him for Saruman. Gandalf says something along the lines of "I am Saruman, what Saruman should have been!"
There's even more in Fangorn with the reunited group as they make their way out of the forest. Aragorn and Gandalf talk a little about Edoras and how it will be tough to bring back Theoden, and the Wizard speaks in riddles once again how he says the Ents will awaken, realize that they are strong, and something will happen that has not happened since the Elder Days. He also mentions how safe Merry and Pippin are in Fangorn, despite how it appears to Gimli.

Naturally there is a lot more footage with the two Hobbits and Treebeard. The old Ent sings poetry to the Hobbits as he walks them to his home, but the words put the two to sleep. He also explains that there hasn't been Entlings in a long time because they lost (literally) the Ent Wives and can't remember what they look like. The Entdraught scene is in there, and it even includes a really nice little nod of the head to Old Man Willow as Merry and Pippin become trapped in roots and Treebeard has to come and speak Tom Bombadil's lines to free them. Later at the gathering there is a new scene where Merry asks them to hurry up and it turns out the Ents had just finished saying "good morning" even though it was now the middle of the night.
Right before Edoras there is one of my favorite moments on disc one. At night, Gandalf speaks to Aragorn about the state of things. About his destiny, how Sauron fears what he may become, and how the Dark Lord and Saruman haven't even began to suspect that they plan to destroy the Ring. My favorite moment is when Gandalf mentions how Frodo must finish the quest alone and Aragorn informs him that Sam went along. The look of reserved happiness, relief, and knowledge that crosses Gandalf's face right then is why no one else could've brought Gandalf to life better than Sir Ian.
When the Three Hunters and Gandalf arrive at Edoras, there is additional footage when they cast out Wormtongue. Aragorn offers his hand to him, but Wormtongue spits on it and runs off. This leads into the funeral for Theodred where Eowyn sings a song in Old English! Wormtongue then returns to Isengard and talks to Saruman about Gandalf and his companions. When he describes Aragon's ring to the Wizard, Saruman pulls out a book and gives his little monologue on how Gandalf thinks he found the lost King of Gondor.


There is a scene in the stables where Aragorn tames Brego using Elvish as Eowyn watches and he explains that he was raised in Rivendel for a while. Before leaving for Helm's Deep there is a short scene of Theoden getting ready where he tells Gamling that their leaving was not a defeat and they will return.

There's a very short scene added to the Dead Marshes where Gollum talks to Frodo about the hold the Ring has over someone. "Once it takes hold of us…it never lets go." It's here where Frodo starts to identify with Gollum a little bit.

On the way to Helm's Deep, when Gimli falls off the horse, Theoden talks to Aragorn and explains a little bit about Eowyn's past and how it's been a long time since she smiled. Soon after, Eowyn makes Aragorn some very nasty looking stew and confronts him about riding into war with her Grandfather. This brings up the subject of Aragorn's age, which is 87. She realizes what Aragorn is and calls him one of the Dunedain! Aragorn's flashback to Rivendel also includes a couple extra moments with Arwen as the Fellowship prepares to leave.

When Faramir's men capture Frodo and Sam, there's some additional footage where Faramir talks about one of the men they killed wondering who he was and if he really was evil or just threatened or lied to. In the caves, the best moment of the Extended Edition arrives after Frodo and Sam reveal that they knew Boromir.

We see Faramir's dream of finding Boromir's boat, which then moves into a flashback to Boromir declaring Osgiliath reclaimed for Gondor with Howard Shore's Gondor theme from The Return of the King filling the room. We see the two brothers celebrating the victory, but their father Denethor interrupts them. In this scene we see how Denethor always degrades Faramir and how desperate he is to show his qualities to his father. It really helps one understand the huge change made to Faramir's character in the movie, and why he took Frodo and the Ring towards Gondor. The flashback ends with Boromir leaving for Rivendel.
Before Helm's Deep there is some new footage sprinkled about. There's a short scene of Eowyn inspecting the food supplies and before the battle she confronts Aragon and complains about having to guard the women and children in the caves. She wants to fight and indirectly makes a little revelation to Aragorn that no one watching the movie would be surprised at.

The battle itself isn't really changed much, although I do think I spotted one additional decapitation, but that is something you really have to look for. There aren't any sweeping changes to the Battle of Helm's Deep. However, the events following the battle do have quite a few additions to them.

After Treebeard lets out his yell, Merry and Pippin spot the Huorns on the move as they "have business with the Orcs" while Treebeard's business is with Isengard. Due to the Huorns headed to Helm's Deep, Sam's speech at the end was re-edited slightly. The dialog is the same, but the scene of Eowyn hugging Aragon was moved to later in the movie. Following the speech we see the Orcs retreating from Helm's Deep and right into the forest made by the Huorns where the trees thrash about and then go still, naturally dealing with the Uruks. At Isengard, we see Merry and Pippin looking for food, and they definitely find it. The two make their way into the storeroom of Isengard and find not only plenty of food, but also two barrels of the best Pipeweed in the Southfarthing. There's some funny dialog where they consider sharing it with Treebeard, but Merry decides it may not be such a good idea since the Pipeweed is dead plants after all. There is also a very funny moment between Legolas and Gimli where they are comparing their number of kills. Gimli had one more kill than Legolas, so Legolas shoots an arrow between Gimli's legs to hit the orc he is sitting on to even the score. Gimli complains that the orc was already dead; Legolas says it was twitching, and Gimli says it was only twitching because of the axe in its head. Gimli then moves the axe to make the orc's arms and legs twitch.
The last bit of additional footage in the Extended Edition redeems Faramir. He leads Frodo and Sam to the sewers where Sam tells him that he has shown his quality. When he asks them where they are headed, Frodo describes the stairs and tunnel, and Faramir instantly recognizes it as Cirith Ungol and confronts Gollum about it. He warns Frodo and Sam about a dark terror that lives in a cavern above Mordor and tells Gollum that death should find him quickly if he leads the Hobbits to any harm. As the three head through the sewers there is a nice little moment between Sam and Gollum where he tells him that Mr. Frodo didn't mean for the men to do what they did and that he was only trying to protect him.


The Two Towers then ends as normal and the Extended Edition does include the Fan Club credits just as Fellowship did.

While we will naturally give you a detailed breakdown on all of the special features in our upcoming review, we did have the chance to view the documentaries on discs three and four. The Appendices here are a direct continuation of the ones from the Fellowship set, so they are parts three and four. The documentaries basically follow the same structure as the ones on the previous set, with disc three looking at the adaptation and design of the film and disc four dealing with the production and post-production.

The first part of the third disc is dominated quite a bit by Philippa Boyens as she talks about the challenging adaptation of the book to the film. The Two Towers was the hardest of the three to turn into a film, and both she and Peter Jackson address all of the changes. There is a lot about the major change to Faramir, and Jackson explains that moving Shelob's lair to The Return of the King not only works well for the film, but it also keeps the story accurate to Tolkien's timeline of events, which places that sequence around the same time as the big battle in ROTK.

There is also some talk of abandoned concepts such as Arwen fighting at Helm's Deep. This extremely controversial story element actually made it to the filming stage and the disc includes some on-the-set footage of Arwen fighting side-by-side with Aragorn at the battle.

Once again there is an extensive documentary on WETA Workshop as Richard Taylor takes viewers on another tour of their work, this time naturally focusing on the many armor and weapons that they created for The Two Towers. There is also a documentary just on the evolution of Gollum, and includes plenty of neat little bits of info such as how New Line originally didn't think WETA Digital was up to the task.

Disc four looks at the production of the film, and there is another great "Cameras in Middle-Earth" documentary that goes from location to location for each of the major areas depicted in the film. There are also more abandoned scenes and concepts discussed on this disc including the Slime Balrog, Elrond traveling to Lothlorien (a scene cut due to them discarding the Arwen at Helm's Deep stuff), and most interestingly the "Gollum Frodo". That last scene originally was to take place when the Ring tempted Faramir. For a split second he was to see a glimpse of what would eventually happen to Frodo if the Ring were not destroyed. The documentary includes footage of Elijah getting into the "Gollum Frodo" make-up and footage of the scene being shot.
For everyone waiting for The Return of the King, there is some rough cut footage of the confrontation of Saruman at Isengard that originally was going to end The Two Towers. The scene will now be one of the ones that will open up the final film in the trilogy and there is a little preview of it on disc four.

Finally, the documentaries feature a lot more cast humor, which was one of the most enjoyable things about the previous set. There are tons of very funny stories from the key members of the cast and crew, while at the same time the post-production stuff makes no illusion about how stressful and tough this second film was to get made on time.
In all, there is more than six and a half hours of documentary footage on the two special features discs, and that doesn't even come close to counting all of the layers of effects breakdowns and galleries (with commentary) that is included on those discs. You can rest assured that no stone will be left unturned when we review the discs.

[Fable]

damn that was long, thanks havoc

[havok_69]

ya i got it from ign.com and in a couple of weeks they will have the special features so go and check it out. :applaud: :cool: ;):) :D

[adt100]

We actually already had this IGN review posted twice before in here and here -

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19901&perpage=40&pagenumber=2

[AXLPendergast]

"Homage to Tom Bombadil" clip on official site now

[RebelwithaCause]

The Washington Post put their review up as well. There is a link to it also at theonering.net also.

One thing I found interesting about the segments they were talking about, apparently it talks about the people on the internet chatting about how they were pissed about Arwen getting a bigger role and saying some rude stuff, and then we hear, (or see I don't know) about Liv Tyler hearing people talk about that, and she cries.

Dude, I'm sorry, I've always had faith in her, and I think her character is one of the best, and I've thought so all along. This ain't the brown nosing kind of stuff...that just goes to show you that some opinions can be hurtful, and our words, even on here, can be heard. Anyways, if they are right now, Liv, just know you did an awesome job, major props.

Alright talkbackers, begin your endless laughter at my post...I'm ready for ya!

[OneRing]

Just got done watchin the TTT:EE, I must say...PJ did a good job in compleating the stories..and made them clearer. the people who read the books will enjoy some of the scenes vary much.
Also Gimli has some funny lines that the people missed out on in the TC of the TTT.
i really like it, IMO almost as good as Fotr:EE, or even better.
:cool: :D :applaud:

[OneRing]

BTW "havok_69" did a really good job in getting all the extra footage written down of those spoiler hungry people (like me)

[LOTRNUT04]

how have you all seen it already, it doesn't come out until nov 18?

[OneRing]

well i have my ways ...hehe;) :D


edit: ohh keep in mind please i just watched the movie it self..not the other content.

[LOTRNUT04]

????????you work for NL or something????????

[OneRing]

lol i WISH I DID...hehe no i dont work for New Line.

[LOTRNUT04]

so....how did you manage to get a copy of it prior to its release?

[OneRing]

friends of a friend who knows a friend who got it some how. dont have an idea how he got it though.
the only way i got to watch is was...my friends know im a compleat nut about LOTR so i guess i lucked out.
BTW im still going to buy the TTT:EE when it comes out

[LOTRNUT04]

thats so awesome, i cant wait until the 18th, im buying it that day. I think it will be so much better than the TE, and the boromir flashback will be amazing.

[OneRing]

yah i lucked out big time.
the boromir flashback was flawless...excelent IMO
also that flashback makes the viewer see Denetior(sp) in a whole diffrent way..and kinda understaind why faramir does what he does in the TTT.

[tiff_t_t]

Well, I know I'm about to peemipants, I'm so psyched... the 18th can't come fast enough!! I keep putting off my job search because I don't want to have to work the 18th, 19th, and 20th... how undeniably dorky is that, eh?! But here's my question for the group of us who have yet to buy the EE, online or elsewheres- what's the cheapest price you've found? Someone above said Blockbuster's going at $24.99, and Amazon is $25.99, Walmart is $26.99, I think... any good discount sites or stores you all have found with special deals?

[LOTRNUT04]

i read some of the lines from that scene, and denothor is the first to say, "A chance for Faramir, Captain of Gondor, to show his quality."

When faramir says this later, he has this look as if he is recalling something. This must be what he is recalling. Then, because he wants to please his father, he brings frodo to osgiliath to try and bring denothor the ring, something boromir was unable to accomplish, and in doing so, he would hopefully gain his fathers respect.

[adt100]

There have been a few internet mail order companies already sending the DVD out early.

[ILOVEKATIE]

Originally posted by RebelwithaCause
The Washington Post put their review up as well. There is a link to it also at theonering.net also.

One thing I found interesting about the segments they were talking about, apparently it talks about the people on the internet chatting about how they were pissed about Arwen getting a bigger role and saying some rude stuff, and then we hear, (or see I don't know) about Liv Tyler hearing people talk about that, and she cries.

Dude, I'm sorry, I've always had faith in her, and I think her character is one of the best, and I've thought so all along. This ain't the brown nosing kind of stuff...that just goes to show you that some opinions can be hurtful, and our words, even on here, can be heard. Anyways, if they are right now, Liv, just know you did an awesome job, major props.

Alright talkbackers, begin your endless laughter at my post...I'm ready for ya!
I read the article as well.....by the way, I totally agree with you on Liv, I think she has done a terrific job.
I don't know why some people be hating her for, the director was the one who chose what to put in the film to begin with, no offense to Peter Jackson.

[adt100]

It's nothing to do with Liv Tyler, it's to do with Arwen. I don't see why anyone would hate the actor for it.