Spider-Man 3 is now playing in a record number of theaters worldwide and we want to know what you think of the third movie in the popular franchise. Have you seen it? Then tell other moviegoers what you thought of the sequel by posting a comment below!
Comments (198)
i thought the movie was great...venom was the best part of the movie...overall i give it a 8.5...cause there was a few things that could have been done better....MUST SEE
Posted by biglwayne
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May 4, 2007 2:13 PM
Simply amazing!It was a bit crowded,with many stories going on.But the action,FX and good characterization really made up for that.
9/10!
Posted by Spider-Sense
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May 4, 2007 2:19 PM
This is probably the best film in the trilogy. It just offers you more, and right when you want / need it to! Villains? Check! Love interests? Check! Spidey Suits??? DOUBLE CHECK!!! If the 4th installment can have 5 suits, and Parker chasing 8 girls, then consider my 10 bucks already spent!
Posted by ginopags
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May 4, 2007 2:25 PM
This is probably the best film in the trilogy. It just offers you more, and right when you want / need it to! Villains? Check! Love interests? Check! Spidey Suits??? DOUBLE CHECK!!! If the 4th installment can have 5 suits, and Parker chasing 8 girls, then consider my 10 bucks already spent!
Posted by ginopags
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May 4, 2007 2:33 PM
I think it was incredible, the broadway pete number kind of put me off but i think it had its place, i just didnt get it, i thought the three villain dynamic was executed perfectly, i would have like a lil more venom but thats just what i would have done, it is absolutely perfect as is, venom was amazing, what a treat to see him come to life and off of the 2D comic page, sandman was absolutely incredible, the sand fx OMG, what a powerful flick. the ending was so powerful, this movie didn't end with a bang it ended with an atomic explosion. i dont get the poor reviews it is getting from the press, i think film critics are villains. i am without a doubt going to see this movie again.
Posted by circanow73
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May 4, 2007 2:34 PM
Spiderman 3 was a huge letdown for me. The second Spidey film set up this third installment perfectly, with Harry and MJ both learning the truth about Peter's alter ego. The whole storyline of Peter and Harry falls completely flat in one of the most insanely idiotic copouts I have ever seen. All the camp of the previous films was acceptable. But SM3 packs sooo much in that it dumbs itself down and begins to annoy its audience. SM3 could use about 15-20 minutes of SERIOUS editing. MJ’s presence in this movie is utterly useless. The villains, if u can call them that, are boring. Venom sucked much more than I expected him to. I know I sound like a whiny bitch, but thats only because I just got bitch slapped by Sam Raimi.
Posted by straightupridah
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May 4, 2007 2:35 PM
This movie was the worst of the trilogy. It could have been both the best of the trilogy and the best superhero movie period but totally fell flat of its potential. The dialogue, acting, story, all of it could have been done so much better than it was. There were just too many holes and corny moments. This movie hurt my effing heart.
Posted by CWBoy1911
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May 4, 2007 2:35 PM
I think it was incredible, the broadway pete number kind of put me off but i think it had its place, i just didnt get it, i thought the three villain dynamic was executed perfectly, i would have like a lil more venom but thats just what i would have done, it is absolutely perfect as is, venom was amazing, what a treat to see him come to life and off of the 2D comic page, sandman was absolutely incredible, the sand fx OMG, what a powerful flick. the ending was so powerful, this movie didn't end with a bang it ended with an atomic explosion. i dont get the poor reviews it is getting from the press, i think film critics are villains. i am without a doubt going to see this movie again.
Posted by circanow73
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May 4, 2007 2:40 PM
Spider-Man 3 died a very cruel death at the hands of Sam Raimi and the studios involved. It is very upsetting to see how far off the mark this movie was from the last two. The entire story sucked and made little to no sense whatsoever. No wonder Toby does not want to do anymore Spidey movies. My favorite comic book character has been turned into a dancing queen (see the movie and you'll see what I mean). Thank you Sam Raimi.
Posted by Roberthyde00
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May 4, 2007 2:41 PM
Dissapointing.. Movie starts off good IMO(opening credits to creation of Sandman, then just little by little, get worse and worse. Storys on Villians were not developed. The movie could have been much better if the focus was just on Spidey and Sandman. Venom could have been saved for a possible 4th installment. Too MUCH PETER PARKER and Mary Jane.
Posted by MystaMyke
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May 4, 2007 2:45 PM
This film did everything it promised. It ticked all the boxes and had all the right elements for a really great film. However, somehow it fell flat.
It wasn't as slick or as smoothe as the second film, far too saccharine in places and had some utterly absurd plot elements (and I'm not talking about a symbiote from Space).
It was fun, had some particularly amazing scenes and was a good way to spend an afternoon. I'm not going to put it down as an all time great though.
Posted by rich6500
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May 4, 2007 2:45 PM
The reviewers were right, Sam packed so much into this movie that things werent very well focused, I mean if you are goin to put Venom in the movie, one of the greatest villians of all time do it right, he should have really made him more involved than he actually was, Harrys story played through well, no problems there. Sandman was a good contribution to Peter dealing with his uncles death, the black suit played out well too but like i said, to many things goin on that you cant really grasp it. So to me it looked like Sam just said "alright we'll just put venom here" that sucks!, and what the hell was with the ending YOU DONT FREAKIN KILL VENOM MAN!
just wanted to get that out lol
Posted by sk8erfreak411
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May 4, 2007 2:47 PM
the movie was awesome. i think a few more viewings will make the movie even better since there was so much going on. my only complaints were too long of a dance scene (could have been cut in half and still delivered the same effect) and there was not enough venom action, they rest was great.
Posted by gacallstar12
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May 4, 2007 2:50 PM
As a huge fan of the first two and an avid reader of superherohype.com, all i heard was that this was the one movie to top all movies. unfortunately, it did not live up to all the hype. the special effects and idea was amazing. venom was an unbelievable addition; however, why topher grace? the movie seemed to drag on at times, especially around the whole good to evil transformation stage. i seemed to laugh a lot more than the number of fight scenes in the movie. id give it a 6 out of 10.
Posted by noccimoc
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May 4, 2007 2:52 PM
i think no matter what happened in that movie, some people just look for the holes in it and look for something to criticize. i go to movies to see action, fx and more. this movie did not dissapoint.
everyone that is saying there was too much peter and mary jane....superman had too much lois and clark, daredevil had too much elektra and matt murdock, xmen maybe too much jean and scott/logan. its a part of the flick. put down the world of warcraft for a sec guys and get a lady in your life, she will make you want to tear down a city one day and lift and move a mountain with your bare hands the next. it's an important part of the movie.
you cats a waaaaay too critical and your setting my gaydar off like crazy. sit back and enjoy a movie, stop being such nincumpoops.
spidey 3 rocked.
Posted by circanow73
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May 4, 2007 2:56 PM
Wow, I guess it was too much to ask that these movies just keep getting better and better. Anybody that likes this movie is way too into Spiderman. It's like Star Wars. The last three Star Wars movies sucked, but ask any Star Wars geek and they'll tell you that they were the best movies ever made. Please don't make Spiderman 4, I'll be waiting for that one on DVD, and I'll put it right next to my Superman Returns DVD.
Posted by mattay
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May 4, 2007 2:57 PM
Spiderman 3 was great! Absolutely great! Venom looked absolutely amazing! Yes it could have used a few MINOR changes, such as more of Venom, or how it's supposed to be all about Parker's "dark" side and his new suit when there's only about ten minutes of him and his black suit, but what can you do, all movies could use a few touch ups. But besides that, Spiderman 3 was the best of the three! It had everything! Action, lovey dovey crap, and comedy! It was abosultely terrific! I can't wait for the DVD, I was the first on line at the movies and I'll be the first on the line of the DVD release! Great job Spidey!
Posted by kcozz323
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May 4, 2007 3:00 PM
I thought this was good for a movie. Since Venom was stripped down to being nothing but a disposable character really hurt my reaction towards this movie. Venom is a major character, and a fan favorite, so the fact that he was only in the last 30 minutes, and had a fight scene that probably lasted three minutes, really hurt my review for this movie. There was too much information for Sam Raimi to handle, and he screwed it up…badly. He should have ended the movie with Spiderman tearing the rogue suit off and the specimen landing on Eddie Brock. This would leave Spiderman 4 open for venom only, and this would give venom the proper time he needs to really make an impact. I hope that Raimi doesn’t screw the 4th one up like he did this one. Hopefully he will bring back Venom using the small amount of the specimen that’s left in the lab. I give Spiderman 3 a 6.4/10.
Posted by Dustin04
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May 4, 2007 3:03 PM
While I thought the fx were top-notch, I do feel that the film was a bit uneven. I did not need to see MJ get kidnapped, yet again. But, it was finally a resolution to the overall storyline that fit. Venom was incredible and that last arial battle was something really nice, and a great service to fans that were waiting for something that spectacular.
The only real problem with this film, as in all of them, for me, is that there is no real throughline, villain wise. Almost all of the villain attacks are not setups, but rather, a character just happening to be there. In 2, Spider-man just happens to be in the bank when Doc Ock tries to steal money. In 3, Spidey just happens to be in a park when an intergalactic piece of meteor brings the symbiote to Earth, and Marko just happens to fall into a pit where unknown scientists are messing with seperating molecules of sand. Eddie Brock happens to be in the same church as Peter rips the symbiote from his body.
In the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, (which have one writer throughout), have tied together one villain behind just about every super powered criminal, and that would be Norman Osbourne. It feels like these stories are slapdashed after the last one came out. Someone should have structured the trlogy even if they were not certain there would be one.
Several people in the audience seemed to have trouble with the romantic, tragic, emotional storyline in this one, that almost bordered on melodramatic. Tobey's so easy to cry, too often emotes, that the last time it happened, the guy in front of me got up and left.
All in all, I'll have to give it another go.
Posted by brainflow
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May 4, 2007 3:07 PM
circanow73, u have a gaydar>>??? lol.
Posted by straightupridah
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May 4, 2007 3:10 PM
the movie was great, no doubt, but i'd like more of VENOM, the ending was confuse, obiously Venom not died, its similar ULTIMATE SPIDERMAN in the first issue of vemom, he is electrocuted and then we see only a spot in the floor of him, the same we see in the movie, i hope sony make better the things the next time, i really hope we take a spiderman 4 with a only one villian an that be Venom, only venom.
Spiderman 3 like me, but, are some thigs i take off of it.
bye fellers, sorry my english, its terrible, i hope you understand me, ja ja ja :)
Miguel, Argentina
Posted by mikael666
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May 4, 2007 3:10 PM
I was let down by this movie also, as soon as i heard venom would be a villain I was so pumped, i was really excited bout this movie for the better part of a year and 1/2 and it was a complete let down. Venom was poorly used, Sandman was bad ass (only the really good part of the flick) and spidey was an emo bitch. The Harry in this film is probably the best Harry in all the Spidey films and the actors acting talent really seemed to improve, it was a nice surprise, but over all i was laughing more than cringing in my seat by the beating I hoped spidey would have gotten from Venom, oh and VENOM SHOULD NOT HAVE DIED OFF, thats complete bull.
Sam Raimi really should be dissappointed and ashamed, if i were him i wouldnt come back either, i think this is a sign that he is burnt out from the franchise and didnt give it his all
Posted by Ddevil192
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May 4, 2007 3:14 PM
First of all tho,i know my review is written poorly,so i apologize in advance.
What a letdown.Not a horrible film.If i were to compare it--it's the "Return of the Jedi" of the series. I would rank the 3 films as follows :Spider-Man 2,Spider-Man,and this one.
Let's start with the positives:It's always nice to see Bruce Campbell get laughs.ummmmm,let's see what else?.......Venom was awesome...until he talked.......what else?....I liked the black suit........Stan Lee cameo was his best out of all of the marvel films....J.Jonah Jameson was great....i want the giant William Dafoe paiting in my home!:)....and some of the fight scenes were cool,meaning if you took snippets from all of the scenes you could have had a spectaular 5 minute fight scene.Okay,im done.
Let's begin with the bad.
1-Worst script of all 3.
Joss Whedon has ruined my life.Because before him,I probably would have walked out of this film liking it more.But I couldnt.The writing was horrible.Where to begin,let's see.....James Franco is retarded,im serious,he acts retarded.People were laughing at him.He gets hit on the head and forgets everything,so for an hour it's the old Harry--acting really "slow".Anyone see Team America?Remember how Matt Damon acts in the film?"MAAAATT DAAAMON" That's Haary."Heh,ball!" "Yes Harry ball...."
The way Sandman becomes the Sandman--laaaame.He is running from the cops,and he just happens to fall into a sand pit that scientist are conducting an experiment--what experiment?Shut up,stop asking questions.
Here is some of the dialouge from the lamest scientists ever.
"Okay we are ready to experiment on wooshing sand around to make sure its still sand."
"sir,there seems to be an object in the pit."
"its probably a bird--it'll fly away in a minute once we start"
"but sir,it seems to be a large object"
"its just a bird."
"thats what you said last week!?!--what if it's some--"
"look,it's probably just a six foot mutated bird!hit the button--i want to see my sand swirl!"
and thats how he becomes the sandman.
i wish there was a scene after showing the scientist "celebrating"
"Yay! we did it! we spent millions of dollar to swirl sand around!--pop that champane open!"
"what if we swirl mud around?"
All scientist:"BRILLIANT!"
2-Too long.This is coming from a comic book geek,who loves Spider-Man.Green Lantern is my all time favorite hero,but guess who the second fave is? "Rom"---just kidding--Spidey ofcourse!So when a geek is tired of seeing his favorite character,there is something wrong.Originally this was suppose to be spider-man 3 and 4(sandman and the vulture in this one,and venom in 4)but instead they dropped ben kingsley as the vulture and insert venom.It was too much crammed it.This film should have just been Venom.Not only because the main villian was Peter,and so having this "goo" show up,was the mirror of him.His inner demons surfaced.Also, as much as i like Thomas Hayden Church(Great in Sideways,and yes,im a closet "Wings" fan)he was really pointless.
sm-"Why did you shoot uncle ben?"
sand-"i have a sick daughter"
sm-"why did you run from the cops?"
sd-"i have a sick daughter"
sm-"why did you start killing people?"
sd-"i have a sick daughter--look she has a cane!?!!"
sm-"i forgive you."
sd-"okay,im gonna blow away now"
With green goblin he was already an ass,but he turned mad because of desperation that felt believeable.doc ock was the most tragic villians of i think of all comic book movies to date.He was tormented by a split personality,the loss of a wife,who was only in the film for a few scenes but the writing(see how i keep coming back to that) and acting really made you feel his pain,and understood his redemption at the end.if you want us to feel bad for this guys daughter,show us a flashback,more than one scene,something--rather than showing that damn in-case-you-forgot-he-has-a-sick-daughter-locket! on one side was a pic of her,the other side should have said"remember dad-im sick."
3-cgi sucks.
Im sorry but overall,the movie was moving too fast to enjoy the fighting.it had some great moments,but not enough to get the ol' geek goose bumps---or a hard-on if your a perv.
4-the crowd/extras-okay the amount of times the "crowds" applauded like sheep was so annoying,if you listen closely you can hear Sam Rami giving direction:"okay here comes spidey,start now,everyone turn you heads in such a choreographed way it was laughable.Also when a giant battle is going on between a giant sand monster on a construction site,maybe you should run,rather than eating popcorn like its a tennis match,and i loved the children in the front--way to go parents! "hey my kid cant see the carnage,down in front!"
5-newscasters who tell me what is going on while im watching it happen!?!?!?
dont treat your viewers like we are stupid.I dont need recaps,i dont need a horrible austrailian newscaster giving us play by play action/what she is feeling right now and a horrible in studio newscaster spouting out lines like "this could be the end for spider-man" i wish he would have said "it could be the end for spider-man,more at 11---and now back to dancing with the stars!"
6-peter cries,aunt may cries,mary jane cries,harry cries,sandman cries,venom cries,insert sterotypical cute kid cries--everybody cries!
when uncle ben cried while dying in the first film--i cried.it was such great acting! When peter and anyone else "cried" in the first 2 films,you felt it.In this,especially the scene on the bridge when mary jane "breaks up " with peter,it was so bad,that i was waiting for Paula Cole's"I dont want to wait til tomorrow"(dawson's ceek theme) to start up! It just felt forced.
7-and finally the worst/best part of the film---the butler.
So see,harry has wanted to kill spider-man since the first film.in the second film he finds out who spidey is,so now in this he wants to kill peter.it consumes him.every frame he knows about peter "killing" his father all he wants is his death.nothing can change his mind........except a few sentences from a butler who has aparently been in all 3 films,we've just never seen him,heard about him,thought about him,ect.Yet they do the ol' forced intro,when retarded harry invites peter over,harry says"hey---jeeves"(?-i honestly dont remember his name) and then peter says"hey jeeves"--wait--who--wait-what--wait---wait go back!?!!? It's like when you watched Family Ties as a kid,and 1 season they have a baby,and then without mentioning it the following season the "baby" is now 6!?!!?BAD WRITING. But fine whatever i'll let his intro slide.Even tho the "actor" looks like he lost a lot of blood and is about to faint in every scene,plus he can't act.So when does the butler show up again?--that's right at the end.When peter comes to harry begging him to help him stop venom and sandman,harry says no.Then peter leaves.Then the butler comes in and i swear to God this is an almost play by play recreation of the scene.
butler:"you know the night your father died,i tended his wound...it was self inflicted(what did you work on CSI!?!?!)he died by his own hand.i loved your father(ewwwww)and i love you(ewww times two)but you need to know that."(even tho i should have told you this two years ago when he died and not let you have a downward spiral to self loathing and utter hatred for the wrong man....hey who wants pie?!) I SAY AGAIN--BAD WRITING!
Before i go,i just want to say one thing.Don't respond with "But,it's just a comic book movie"Yeah,but when the studios buy these characters,and change the origins around of characters,change the costumes in order to make the story "more realistic",that's fine.I have no problem changing the origin that Sandman killed Uncle Ben,I have no problem when the x-men or any other characters have a new costume,that doesnt bother me.Because i am a geek,i do want to believe this world more than any other casual movie viewer.That's a cop out.If you want this world to be real than have great dialogue and a smooth flowing story that isnt crammed into 2 hours and 20 minutes.Flesh it out,pay the damn actors 20 million for a part 4 and expand this film.But it's too late now.Bottom line,"Batman Begins" is still the best comic book movie of all time---and overall i consider myself to be a Marvel fan.
Still that being said,go see it.I dont regret seeing it,i just dont plan on seeing it again,and thats a shame.
Yes Im a geek.:)
Posted by kevinconn
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May 4, 2007 3:16 PM
Holy crap.....what the hell was Sam thinking. I was so hurt by this movie i have no idea where to start. Spidey 2 was flat-out the best superhero movie, let alone the best movie in the past years. He follows that up with this? Why did they cram so much in when it wasn't fully developed!!!! No emotion, bland action scenes, no thrills or suspense, the only thing it had was humour. Bruce campbell steals this movie easily. Well, i will give it a second round next week so maybe with the letdown i experienced i might enjoy it more.
P.S Gwen stacy was hot!
Posted by cobra22
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May 4, 2007 3:17 PM
The movie was packed with emotion,over the top CGI, more villains and a bigger plot. Over all it was good but the under development of Eddie Brock was the biggest let down.. They needed to have Eddie through out the series as a background character always getting cheated by Peter Parker instead of the at most 45 mintues build up that they film maker gave. Venom is a major villain within the later Spider-man comic series (1989 to now) and is generally a fan favorite, but in the film they make it seem like he is just is a problem step child that no one wants to claim.. I really hope if they bring venom back and segway him into the Carnage story to round out the series to a end... 7.0/10.0
P.S. I think it is time for a new director for a fresh change..
I hope Iron Man lives up to the hype that it is already building..
Posted by NickWizz
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May 4, 2007 3:19 PM
Going into the movie, I knew some of the stuff that would happen in the film. But seeing as I am a huge fan of the first two, I only expected the best from this film. But I was wrong. I was very disappointed with how much that was crammed into this film that wasn't explained. Like, randomly a rock just falls out of the sky and ooze just comes crawling out of it? What was up with that? It was never explained, which means the Venom story shouldn't of been in the film. The film should have only focused on Harry's story and Sandman. There was way too much going on to try to focus on every element in the film itself. The one thing that pissed me off is that Harry never helped Peter that was just flat out wrong. And Gwen Stacey really shouldn’t' have been in the film. That was just a stupid story line to be put in. And what was up with Peter being a little EMO kid. That was just wrong. WRONG. (What was up with the finger snapping?!) It really should have either been Venom/Peter/MJ, or Harry Osborn/Sandman. And what was up with the ending? Are we watching the third LOTR all over again? Multiple endings were not right. And Sandman turns into a good guy? This film really could of been a lot better than what it was. I was hoping for a lot more action sequences, and not Peter being all emo throughout the entire film. Seriously this was a HUGE drop for me being a Sam Raimi. The only best acting in the entire movie had to be Kirsten Dunst. She put on an awesome performance. I really didn't care for Tobey Maguire this time around. The death of Harry pretty much everyone was just cracking up in the theater. This film was a complete joke. And the legendary Bruce Campbell put on an awesome performance once again as well. Over all I don't think I'll give this film another shot. I'd rather spend my money on "PIRATES 3" this summer.
Posted by filmslacker
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May 4, 2007 3:23 PM
Holy crap.....what the hell was Sam thinking. I was so hurt by this movie i have no idea where to start. Spidey 2 was flat-out the best superhero movie, let alone the best movie in the past years. He follows that up with this? Why did they cram so much in when it wasn't fully developed!!!! No emotion, bland action scenes, no thrills or suspense, the only thing it had was humour. Bruce campbell steals this movie easily. Well, i will give it a second round next week so maybe with the letdown i experienced i might enjoy it more.
P.S Gwen stacy was hot!
Posted by cobra22
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May 4, 2007 3:25 PM
I don't know if this website is connected to the new spiderman movie but that movie was crap. I read reviews saying there was too many characters and it was hard bringing the storylines together. That is bs. Some of those scenes in the movie were just ridiculous and pointless. They could have spent time showing the characters relationships other than Peter dancing and all other dumb stuff he was doing. For crying out loud they made him a frickin emo. They completely murdered the whole venom story which was easy to get right. They never even showed how venom was his biggest enemy. The final battle scene was just sad to watch. It was boring and not even close to 1 and 2. They put out a crappy product, but don't worry they'll still make their money by ripping us off for 2 and a half hrs. I don't want to hear any excuses, just admit it was a major bomb. Trust me I am not the only one who feels this way. MANY people were booing as we left the theatre. Thank you for ruining this trilogy and making it into another superman returns! I kind of got the feeling they just threw this together to get it out. The people who are saying this is a great movie have problems!
Posted by packers4
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May 4, 2007 3:26 PM
This Movie was Great and very well rounded, although because there was so much in this film, i see why it was harder to actually fit in, but Eddie Brock should have been developed a little more and should have been connected to the "Eddie" that JJ Jameson mentions in the first, but i have no real complain, and thought that everything was handeled well, Now as for Harry Osborn great way to close up the circle of friendship and all that the movie was very good all around. but i predicted the marvelous ending of this movie about 8 months ago, somehow but i did. And Sandman, WOW!!! when i first heard he would be in the film i thought who the hell really knows him why not use Lizard, which hopefully he will next movie, but Sandman was ..., well all of the villains were great.
Thumbs up to Raimi and the Team and Marvel for actually bringing out a good Film for a change( remember Marvel it Quality not Quantity thats important)
Posted by toad376
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May 4, 2007 3:27 PM
actually if you asked most star wars fans they'd tell you that the prequels were complete embarrassments.
i totally loved Spider-Man 3... it was a great send off, except i really can't for the life of me understand why Raimi decided to end the film (or the trilogy for that matter) with such a weak shot of these two at the jazz bar.... i mean, where was the over the top spidey swinging through the city dramatic closing shot????
funny thing is my brother is the authority on Spider-Man in my house, and he totally hated the film.... especially the way Venom was handled... i find it especially funny because i'm more of a Batman fan, and i can totally go and rip Batman Begins for hours over the way it sucked all the fun out of character.... but everyone seems to think it was perfect, while ignoring the fact that yes there was a Batman before Frank Miller touched the property.
i guess people are just taking this way too personally.... at least Raimi and crew never forgot that Spider-Man was actually a comic book.
Posted by BigBossPETE
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May 4, 2007 3:31 PM
The film, in my opinion, was AWESOME! Like the first one and the second one, yes, there were moments of bizarre obviousness and downright corniness- the news broadcast at the end springs readily to mind- but I felt that the characters' arcs in this film were probably the meatiest in the trilogy (especially Harry, whom I came to like more in this film than in either of the other two), and the decision to end on a more sombre note for Peter and MJ was a welcome relief from the traditional "hero in all his glory" endings of the first films (not to mention Batman, Superman the Movie, Daredevil, et. all).
If I were to list off my primary grievance, though, it would have to be Christopher Young's overly melodramatic score. Though he did use elements from Elfman's work on the originals, his blaring brass section and lack of any musical finess whatsoever only served to accentuate the... pulpier... parts of the movie, which Elfman was more deftly able to ground when he needed to. In particular, the overdone trumpet blasting that accompanies the introduction of the black suit manages to undercut all of the chill-inducing menace that the exact same shot possessed, sans music, in the teaser trailer.
However, for all it's little faults, I appreciate how the film takes the concepts and characters that are explored so vividly in the comics into newer territory, and that, furthermore, they're not unwilling to have some fun with the ideas presented to them (the dark Peter scenes were funny as hell). Overall, I'm glad that Sam Raimi tied up all the loose ends that had been left dangling, and he did it in an satisfying, yet almost inevitable, way, and hey- he managed to FINALLY get Venom on the big screen!
(Note: Who says that Venom is dead? There really wasn't enough corpse to justify that conclusion...)
(One Final Nitpick: Y'know, I never liked Bernard, the Osborn family butler, when he made his two-line debut in Spider-Man 2... so why, oh, why must we be treated to SO MUCH MORE of him in this one?!?)
Posted by parallax
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May 4, 2007 3:32 PM
All I have to say is that this movie was an utter disappointment. Right from the very start when Peter Parker was talking about "I'm spiderman and now everyone loves me" (CHEESY!!) I knew the rest would follow in that same way. Don't get my wrong, Spidey 1&2 were both that way but it was fun. This time around, however, it was overload. Not to mention, and I know people are getting sick of hearing this, but why the hell was Spiderman emo. No matter how much I hate that damn word it was undeniable. There was no need for eye liner or for Parker to be flipping his long locks around every second he was in that persona. I mean what the hell. This was less of an action movie and more of an ackward joke. Everyone at the midnight showing starting laughing hysterically when Parker showed up at Osborn's house to hash things out after being told that Mary Jane was with Osborne. We all laughed out a disbelief that Parker was really dressed that way. I mean did Ramai and the rest of the production team think that the audience would be too dumb to not understand that there was a shift in Parker's character just by Maguire's acting abilities. I completely think Maguire is a fantastic actor, so why not go with that. The only thing that saved this movie was Venom and that was barely a save. Venom was limited in this film and the way he went out was lame. However, I did not read the comics so if that was the way Venom was killed in the comics then I have more respect. Overall, I was so excited for this movie. I had been talking about how I haven't seen a good movie in a loooong time since Hollywood churns out crap on a regular basis. Well it has done it again. After leaving I immediately texted my roomie who was just as eager to see the movie and said that it was a complete piece of crap. That truly is what it was; crap from start to finish with some great moment, and let me emphasize moments of awesome special effects. If Pirates 3 is crap then I will completely give up on movies!!
Posted by Adam
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May 4, 2007 3:50 PM
The film was great, but Spider-man 2 can beat this movie over the head with it's writing and pacing. When I saw Spider-man 2 I felt like it was a separate film, not just a sequel that has no merit to stand on its on two feet. Sadly, this movie relies on you to be familiar with everyone and all of what's going on in Spidey world. Not that a bunch of people wouldn't know the characters, but I wish that the pacing was a bit slower on relationships (Eddie Brock and his girlfriend barley have any scenes together, so why should I care about them again?) and bit faster on some of the obvious plot points.
*spolier*
I saw Harry dying from a mile away, but turning good before death is always a great thing to have as a redeming quality. That part fit into the overall story well. What didn't fit too well was Mary Jane's overall I'm-not-good-enough-for-the-world problem that she's been stuck in for a VERY long time. So your boy friend's Spider-man and you can't compete with that. I wish you luck to find someone who can. She seemed too whiny and sad, yet the last two movies she seemed oblivious to the fact that Peter liked her. I'm grateful that the plot continues and doesn't get stuck, but at times during this film, I kept wondering if Sam Rami knew that he didn't want to pursue any more future films after this one. The ending kind of sets up the potential for a 4th film, but man, I don't know if I'd want to see it. This film ties up a lot of issues and I think if the series was going to end with the original director, cast, and mostly crew, then now is a better time to start.
I'm going to college to major in film and hopefully become a director/slave to a director soon, and if I could pull off what Sam Rami does with these special effects, I think I'd just retire....I mean, how the hell would I top myself? The most impressive scene is the crane shots, as the special effects get more technical and complicated (Spidey just can't jump down and rescue the girl, he's gotta avoid solid wall chunks and slide through a crane). The final battle scenes are great and are a true testiment that with the right amount of money, anything is possible in the movie business, even Venom's crazy twitch toward killing Spider-man. I mean really, that whole scene with Venom and Spider-man was sick.
Compared to the first two, this one does stumple a bit because of it's length and pacing, but overall, it's still a Spider-Man film that worthy of checking out more than once.
Posted by rsk423
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May 4, 2007 3:56 PM
I saw the midnight show of Spider-man 3...and don't know what the heck happened with this movie...
I've been a huge fan of Spider-man since I was a youngin' I've got hundreds of comics from the 80s and early 90s, afterwhich I lost touch with the series. The 1st 2 movies were fantastic-I thought the 1st movie was very well done, and thought the 2nd was even better...so what went wrong?
Sam Raimi's an amazing director-he's got cult status from the Evil Dead films, the original Darkman, and obviously, the last two Spidey films.
The main cast was all here for the 3rd-with the addition of Thomas Haden Church as Flint Marko/The Sandman, Topher Grace as Eddie Brock/Venom, and Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacey.
Thomas Haden Church, in the little screentime he had, did a fine job as Flint Marko-He definitely looked the part perfectly, but had very little dialogue-and didn't have enough screen-time to really flesh-out his character.
Bryce Dallas Howard did a fine job as Gwen Stacey...but then again-the character wouldn't have been a stretch for anyone with blonde hair to play ;)
Topher Grace as Eddie Brock...his acting as Brock, pre-venom, was fine...but he in no way resembled Brock in the comics...Topher Grace "as Venom" was WRETCHED...there was not a single good thing about Venom...anyone familiar with any of the Spider-man and Venom graphic novels, or even remotely familiar with Venom from the comics, I'm sure shares my desire to puke buckets of shame onto anyone remotely responsible with the way Venom is portrayed throughout the enitrety of the film...you almost need to see it to appreciate how repulsed I truly am as to how they handled this character...which leads me to...
The CG in general...now-this movie was in development for approx. 2.5 years....so why do the special effects look worse than the 2nd film? Why does Venom look and animate so damn horribly-the only good special effects in the film you've seen on the previews-when Peter Parker rips the "alien symbiote" black suit off of his body and it fights back....almost everything with the Sandman looked horrible...all of the in air battles looked fairly weak-you could obviously tell when there was CG and when there were truly actors present...and the crane seen looked so damn fake!!!TOO MUCH CG!!! The final battle sequence...the whole thing just...SUCKED...the CG...the dialogue...the way it concluded...I just don't understand!?!
The end scene...made little sense...and left everyone thinking, "It's over?"
The dialogue...oh boy-there were many wretched puns/one liners that were meant to be funny, but came off so cheesy...there were many moments meant to be sentimental...but came off seeming over-acted and insincere...especially between Peter Parker and Harry Osborn, and Peter Parker and Eddie Brock...I don't understand what happened here...
AND...
Why's Peter Parker still using a damn pay phone!!! He's making good money taking pictures of "Spidey" at the Daily Bugle...shouldn't he be able to afford a cell phone by now!?!
The major problem:
Sam tried to put too much into one movie! Shit...the Venom saga could have been a trilogy in and of itself, but trying to tie of Harry Osborn's story, Flint Marko's story, and Eddie Brock's, along with Mary Jane's troubles, throwing in Gwen Stacey almost as a prop, and having the Crazy and extremely obviously CG action sequences take up too much damn time in the movie.
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What was good that hasn't been mentioned yet:
1. The battle between Harry Osborn and Peter Parker in Osborne's apartment
2. Kirstin Dunst as Mary Jane Watson-she was the only one without any horrible
dialogue, and her emotions never came off as being cheesy
3. Bruce Campbell as the French Waiter
4. umm....umm...!?!
I really wanted to like this movie!
I don't know what happened!
We need a complete Venom REDO!!! WTF were they thinking!?!?!
Peter Parker shouldn't still be so damn awkward....he does grow up in the comics...he shouldn't have been so damn GOOFY when he was "dark" he should be over the GOOFY shit by now....at least 90% of it...URG...
Well...anyway...I just needed to get that out. I'm very interested to see how the general public reacts to this sequel. I'm sure it'll make gobs of money...but I wonder if the same distaste will be left in people's mouths like I have in mine right now?
It wasn't the most horrible superhero film I've seen by any means...but it falls
WAY WAY short compared to Spider-man and especially Spider-man 2....at least in this Spidey fan's opinion.
-b
Posted by Yipplehead
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May 4, 2007 3:57 PM
To begin with... a friend of mine works in industry and explained to me the importance of Spiderman 3 after I gave it a bad review... he said this...
"DUDE! You wanna talk about a waste of money? Tell that to SONY! I'm gonna see it and tell all my friends ot see it too. If that movie doesn't do good, I mean... WHAT will that mean for the Marvel franchise! What would it do to SONY?!?!!? I have people in there, I don't want that ship to go down!!!"
After reading some of these reviews and the critics reviews online... i am more convinced that people are desperate to find ANYTHING to like about this movie.
Facts about the movie experience…
- I saw it with friends at midnight
- I didn’t really care for the first one but I really liked number 2
- I was extremely excited, we wanted to see it on IMAX but it was sold out
- I am a loyal comic fan but I understand the adaptation process (the need to change the source material in order to make an entertaining movie)
- I like the overall cast (I’m not a Tobey, Topher hater...although I'm not a fan of Dunst)
- In the first five minutes, a female friend of mine turned to me and said (Is it just me, or is this movie kinda horrible already?)
Most important facts (I love going to movies)–
- I have fallen asleep in a movie theater twice – (Nightmare before Christmas, King Kong)
- I have gone to the bathroom during a movie twice – (LA Confidential, Grindhouse)
- I have only walked out of a movie once – (Little Nicky – I actually sat through “Fear Dot Com”)
Considering all this -
- I called my brother, during the movie, with a half hour left to go, and told him not to see it (No one around me seemed to mind that I was talking on my phone)
The movie –
- I felt like I was desperately waiting for the next action sequence (only two that are memorable)
- The audience laughed...at every dramatic moment...including the climax
- There was more of a positive response to Golden State beating Dallas than the entire film (people actually shouted updates and the eventual final score during the movie)
- My friends asked if we could leave, during the final fight sequence (some audience members did stream out)
- The only people I know that said they like it... admitted they were college students that were “So drunk during it”
See this movie if –
- You thought the first movie needed less action and a lot more crying
- You thought the acting in Star Wars Episode II was fantastic
- You thought the dialogue in Blade 3 was inspired
Don’t see this movie if –
- You want to see Venom for more than 15 minutes
- You like villains that are actually evil and not whiney crybabies (Sandman)
- You are annoyed by over-the-top coincidences (Sandman stumbles upon a truck full of sand, in the middle of New York City)
- You need more than a half minute explanation of what the venom suit is, or how Sandman is created
- You don’t want to see Mary Jane in jeopardy AGAIN, and watch her nearly fall to her death AGAIN
- You don’t want characters randomly introduced just to move the excruciatingly slow plot forward (The Butler scene... you will know it when it happens)
Final thoughts…
- This film reminded me of the feeling I had when Joel Schumacher took over the Batman franchise...and murdered it.
Posted by Fishoutofwater
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May 4, 2007 3:57 PM
J. Jonah Jameson stole the show. I laughed so hard during the medication scene. All the other characters seemed hollow in comparison.
Posted by claudia2006
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May 4, 2007 4:05 PM
J. Jonah Jameson stole the show. I laughed so hard during the medication scene. All the other characters seemed hollow in comparison.
Posted by claudia2006
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May 4, 2007 4:08 PM
My biggest concern going into see Spider-Man 3 was that they wouldn't be able to properly give enough time to each element in the movie. And my assumptions were sadly true.
Raimi tried to squeeze too much into this movie and wasn't able to give most of the major subplots the time and development they deserved on the screen.
You have Peter and Harry's stressed friendship turned adversaries issue, the problems in Peter's and Mary Jane's relationship, Peter dealing with the black suit consuming him, Sandman as a new villain and bringing in Venom was just too much for one movie.
The tongue in cheek humor that Raimi is known for was good in the first two but there was a little too much in this one and detracted from the movie. It just became a little too campy at some points.
The one thing I was really looking forward to see and enjoyed quite a bit was to finally see Venom (OMG!) on the silver screen. He was a aesthetically appealing and a good adversary for Spider-Man. But as I said before, with all the elements crammed into this movie, Venom wasn't given his due justice/time on the screen.
Overall this was a fun movie to watch with cool villains and action scenes. To make this a great movie, Raimi should have cut the major subplots in about half to give everything in the movie the time it deserved. For the other half, he could have set them up for a 4th movie like he did at the end of Spider-Man 2 for the 3rd one. Overall, I give Spider-Man 3 a "C+".
Also, I just want you all to know that I'm a big Spider-Man fan. I took friday off of work just so I could go see the midnight showing. So before you start flaming me, know that I love the characters and only want the best for them.
Posted by Brandon N
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May 4, 2007 4:09 PM
This movie reminds me of Batman Forever. Batman Forever had the potential to be the best Batman movie of it's time, because of the story concepts it presented. SP3 does the very same. The story concepts of Venom, Pete vs. Harry, MJ vs Pete & Gwen vs MJ, Brock vs Parker, all of these concepts sound good and knowing the comic stories is exciting. However as the end credits roll, the terrible execution, the gay campy tone, and the overall under-delivery make you feel like you were ripped off and lied to by some pyramid scheme sales person. Compared to other Spider-Man films, I give this film an F minus minus. This movie should have been at least an hour longer, I'm talking Gone with the Wind Style, because that would have developed the characters appropriately and allowed you to become completely emotionally invested into the climax.
I love Sam Raimi. I hope he still makes another Spider-Man, but I hope he (and other directors that have comic book franchises to maintain cough*CHRISTOPHERNOLAN*cough) learned that if you are going to pack a movie with that amount of creativeness and potential...you'd damn well better deliver.
Posted by Chucktallica
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May 4, 2007 4:21 PM
Spider-man 3 was flawed, yes, but fantastic nonetheless. The action, cgi, and acting was at the top of its game this time around, though like many, i thought everything was almost a little too cram packed in this one, not really allowing some story arcs to develop to well. Spider-man 3 was definetly better than the first, but not quite as legendary the "2". I thought the humor in this one really made it feel like the comic book, but it also had that serious tone at many parts which made it great. Good ending, hopefully Spider-man 4 will happen with Sam Raimi on board along with the usual spidey ensemble.
I feel also that alot of people are looking way too hard to find something to hate in this film. They gota forget about all those none important menial things that don't really matter and look at the amazing picture that Spider-Man 3 truly is.
Posted by hockeyguy19mtm
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May 4, 2007 5:00 PM
I think the movie was outstanding. I would like to mention however, that the movie has been criticised for having 3 villains instead of the usual one. I would like to give my thoughts in this matter. I think that when we are dealing with black suit saga you have to have more than one villain. Spider-man has to have the suit before there can be a venom, and whilst he has the suit he has to have a villain. I think the choice of villains were good. New goblin was necessary as it rounded up the story of harry osborn which pervades the trilogy. There is no need for more back story as we have the other 2 movies which provide it. SecondlySandmanwas a good choice as he does not have much of a back story and is a new character unlike what we have seen in the past 2 movies, i think he was very well integrated into the story. Finally you cannot have a story of the black suit saga without venom. I think the special effects were outsanding and venom was particularly fantastic. My only criticism is that i would have liked to have seen the black suit being treated more like a symbiote as was done with venom. Spider-man removed the suit a couple of times and put it in a suitcase. Lastly, my other critics is very minor but i would have liked to have seen the traditional ending of spider-man swinging just before the credits. However, these details are minor and it is a fantastic movie definitly worth seeing. I will be going to the theatre again.
Posted by Kalel100
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May 4, 2007 5:03 PM
The movie was great HOWEVER, I would have perfered that the Venom story take presidence over Sandman...that they have Harry as the initial story and Venom as the second. The Venom fits in with what is happening between Pete and Harry and MJ. Sandman is the odd man out. I wasn't sympathetic to his story. Take him out and the film could have had one central theme about love and revenge. It would have been easier to manage, and I've no doubt Venom would have been given much more time. As it is Venom is a throwaway character as one poster put it.
The movie posters said it best. The darkness within. Venom, Harry, Peter, and MJ.
Posted by kbyrd
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May 4, 2007 5:06 PM
Spider-man 3 was flawed, yes, but fantastic nonetheless. The action, cgi, and acting was at the top of its game this time around, though like many, i thought everything was almost a little too cram packed in this one, not really allowing some story arcs to develop to well. Spider-man 3 was definetly better than the first, but not quite as legendary the "2". I thought the humor in this one really made it feel like the comic book, but it also had that serious tone at many parts which made it great. Good ending, hopefully Spider-man 4 will happen with Sam Raimi on board along with the usual spidey ensemble.
I feel also that alot of people are looking way too hard to find something to hate in this film. They gota forget about all those none important menial things that don't really matter and look at the amazing picture that Spider-Man 3 truly is.
Posted by hockeyguy19mtm
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May 4, 2007 5:07 PM
I thought the movie was very good. The FX was great, the story was good, overall a very good movie. I did think that it got a little hokey toward the end and the buddy buddy scene near the end was really cheesy but like I said before very good and worth seeing again. People are trying to nit pick this movie, to find the negative aspects instead of focusing on the positive aspects. The acting was good, Is it just me or did James Franco do the best acting? At the end of the day, comics can go on for years & years, but movies based on comics need closure and this movie gave it. Great movie, just please do not make Spiderman 4, it is not needed & I would hate for this franchise to end on a negative note.
Posted by Smitty2k34
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May 4, 2007 5:14 PM
circanow73 is right on. It could have used some serious editing of the campy sections (Jameson with the pills, Peter dancing, Peter dancing again, etc). The villians felt underdeveloped, especially compared with Doc Ock in #2. Where was Venom's tongue? That was one of the coolest things about him. Overall, it felt like they were trying to do too much. You don't have to top #2, just give us more in the same tradition. Sandman had a lot more potential in the storyline with his daughter/family, and that could have been a great addition. 7 out of 10, because it was still a great movie, it just has the misfortune of living in Spider-man 2's impressive shadow.
Posted by indianajosh
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May 4, 2007 5:15 PM
Worth a mention:
Bruce Davidson's cameo-The best of them all!
Stan Lee's
Consider:
We weren't told more about the suit and how it negated Spider-man's spider-sense. I know this from the comics but more and more people in the audience of the midnight showing I attended asked that same question.
Mary Jane asked Peter what was up between him and Harry but shouldn't she already know? Harry said Spider-man killed his father in front of MJ so she knows the hatred he has for Peter.
Posted by kbyrd
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May 4, 2007 5:17 PM
I HAVE TO SAY BEING A FAN OF SPIDER MAN, AND VENOM BEING MY ALL TIME FAVORITE VILLAIN. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT HE HAD ABOUT 15 OF SCREEN TIME, I THINK THAT PART 2 HAD MORE DEPTH. I MEAN EVEN DOC OC GOT TO RUN AROUND THE CITY AND TERRORIZE THE CITY FOR AWHILE.
VENOM NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO DO THAT, AND I ALSO FEEL THIS TIME AROUND SONY WAS MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGLOMERATE MONEY MACHINE, THAN AN ACTUAL STORY THAT WORKS. I THINK SANDMAN WAS A GOOD CHARACTER AND HE DID A GOOD JOB, BUT THEY COULD HAVE CUT ALL THAT FAT OUT AND HAD A BIGGER FIGHT SCENE. I GIVE THE MOVIE 7.5 OUT OF 10.
Posted by oldespeed2
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May 4, 2007 5:19 PM
I HAVE TO SAY BEING A FAN OF SPIDER MAN, AND VENOM BEING MY ALL TIME FAVORITE VILLAIN. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT HE HAD ABOUT 15 OF SCREEN TIME, I THINK THAT PART 2 HAD MORE DEPTH. I MEAN EVEN DOC OC GOT TO RUN AROUND THE CITY AND TERRORIZE THE CITY FOR AWHILE.
VENOM NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO DO THAT, AND I ALSO FEEL THIS TIME AROUND SONY WAS MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGLOMERATE MONEY MACHINE, THAN AN ACTUAL STORY THAT WORKS. I THINK SANDMAN WAS A GOOD CHARACTER AND HE DID A GOOD JOB, BUT THEY COULD HAVE CUT ALL THAT FAT OUT AND HAD A BIGGER FIGHT SCENE. I GIVE THE MOVIE 7.5 OUT OF 10.
Posted by oldespeed2
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May 4, 2007 5:19 PM
Spider-man 3 was flawed, yes, but fantastic nonetheless. The action, cgi, and acting was at the top of its game this time around, though like many, i thought everything was almost a little too cram packed in this one, not really allowing some story arcs to develop to well. Spider-man 3 was definetly better than the first, but not quite as legendary the "2". I thought the humor in this one really made it feel like the comic book, but it also had that serious tone at many parts which made it great. Good ending, hopefully Spider-man 4 will happen with Sam Raimi on board along with the usual spidey ensemble.
I feel also that alot of people are looking way too hard to find something to hate in this film. They gota forget about all those none important menial things that don't really matter and look at the amazing picture that Spider-Man 3 truly is.
Posted by hockeyguy19mtm
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May 4, 2007 5:27 PM
OK, so i just got back from the midnight showing.. and i have some negative, as well as possitive reviews. Im a huge spidey fan, yet ive learned from the past 2 films you never get spot on story... and i feel i'm no longer juding the movie from a "fan boy" status, but more of a "movie buff" because.. well i watch alot of movies.
First i'll start off with the negatives, to get them out of the way.
-Too crowded. i really hoped this movie would break the "villain" rule but over all Sandman was not needed in this film. I felt he made the story very congested. Harry and Brock worked, and flowed well with the story but with sandman he just congested it.. he didn't mesh with the main story and think with him gone it would have left more room for Venom. Which leads into my next critisism.
-Venom, was rushed.. i say congradulations to all you fan boys who begged and pleaded for venom to be on the screen pushing sony to do venom more and more. Whelp, i hope your happy, they initially spit on him. I didn't feel one bit sorry for Brock at all... and we were not shown enough emotion with him to really feel for why he hated peter parker. They should have shown us shots of him alone, struggling, being unable to pay rent, come into money woes.. etc... but instead.. they gave the emotion to sandman who surved little purpose. They also Failed to truley explain the symbiote which is a shame because venom was visually awsome, and very interesting. He left me wanting more to be told and focused on, but we got none of that. I also found it to be very very stupid to kill off brock. there was absolutely not a single bit of reason to do that. I also felt there should have been more of an explanation of the symbiote.. us comic fans know what was happening the whole time, but i felt like people who don't know venom could be getting very confused. plus... a friggin alien substance fell to earth and peter isn't really that curious about it? wears the egg head we love?
-smarts, ok.. so tobey was definately peter, in the scene where he went to MJ's play and started to ramble on about the lights or the sound systems and MJ said "your such a nerd" thats classic smart peter.. but why do we still not see that? i'd love to actually hear peter talk to himself, then show stupid flashbacks of him banging his head on the bell tower... peter should have known before the bell tower... the symbiotes weaknesses.. from running tests.. or finding out some other way... hell.. why did he even go to the bell tower in the first place?
-The scores, simply sucked. The music took me completely out of the fight scenes, and they lacked that "epic" quality to them. Scores are suppose to enhance a scene, not take you out of it. especially in some very emotional moments.
-My final complaint would be the cheese factor.. some scenes it works.. others ... no. The emo parker look? what the hell kind of woman is attracted to a greasey long banged nerd? that was completely unbelievable. The dancing was a way bit over killed.. and the jazz bar... peter magically playing a piano like that and the shots of his mouth like it was some freakish jazz dance music video.... over kill. which leads to my positive moments.
-the Comedy bits that worked.. J.K. Simmons scored yet again in probably some of his best moments in the films... as well as betty. The vibrating desk was brilliant and probably one of my favorite moments in the film. J.K. Simmons is J. Jonah Jameson. Bruce cambell got his largest role of the 3 films.. and his french waiter persona was hilarious.
-MJ, I was utterly SHOCKED, being a very anti-kirsten dunst as MJ person from the last 2 films i was utterly amazed by her performance this time around. I could tell she actually cared this time, as well as respected the character. She was actually Mj to me, at least the Mj of the comics today.
-Gwen, Bryce stole all her scenes, but the only scene that felt "gweny" to me was her first, in connors class... the rest simply was a "gwenJ" mesh... taking the elements MJ was missing and combining them with the "gwen" elements that kirsten's MJ was missing.
-Thomas Hayden Church, his acting was superb, but it was a shame it was wasted on such a useless character who was mostly there for "visual" scenes
-Aunt May, rosemary harris is always splended, i love her
-Harry, james franco did a great job, he was cute as hell with his "amnesia" and played such a hateful coniving bastard when he regained his memory
-chemistry, franco and Dunst, peter and dunst the trio are magic together.. even though tobey really didn't impress me this time around. tobey's performance was better then the second, but over all he was more "peter" to me in the first.
-story, i felt harry and the "symbiote" story fit very well and worked very well together. MJ struggling with her job and getting jealous worked very well and it was a good reasoning for the "spidey praise" which i was not fond of going into the movie... NYC never has loved spidey... not to the extent we saw, but i felt it was exusable due to it playing well with the story.
-Visuals. the fight scenes were awsome, and venom looked perfect, i was very impressed.
over all i gave the movie a 7 and will dub it "average", i liked it better then the 2nd, but i will compare 2 and 3 the same way i compare X-men 2 and 3... one movie lacked what the other got right so in a sense if you combined them, they'd be a perfect movie. but some things they got wrong in 2 they repeated double as much in 3... the cheese factor with peter being the main one... it was almost embarressing to watch his pelvic thrusts. Yet at the same time they fixed MJ, did well yet again with Harry, Jameson and May, and even tobey was slightly more bearable... this time he was much less whiney.. and he was indeed more confidant.
Posted by spideyboy_1111
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May 4, 2007 5:28 PM
Spider-man 3 was flawed, yes, but fantastic nonetheless. The action, cgi, and acting was at the top of its game this time around, though like many, i thought everything was almost a little too cram packed in this one, not really allowing some story arcs to develop to well. Spider-man 3 was definetly better than the first, but not quite as legendary the "2". I thought the humor in this one really made it feel like the comic book, but it also had that serious tone at many parts which made it great. Good ending, hopefully Spider-man 4 will happen with Sam Raimi on board along with the usual spidey ensemble.
I feel also that alot of people are looking way too hard to find something to hate in this film. They gota forget about all those none important menial things that don't really matter and look at the amazing picture that Spider-Man 3 truly is.
Posted by hockeyguy19mtm
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May 4, 2007 5:29 PM
I thought the movie was good. I have to say killing off venom was a bad decision. Blowing up the suit but killing eddie brock with it. They could have left eddie alive and left it that a small piece of the suit was left over in the flames and later finds its way to brock for a 4th movie. Venom should have been left for a 4th movie. Harry as the goblin was great & the sandman was great. The movie should have been on those 2 villians with a big focus takin them on and peter dealin with his personal issues. I still like the movie but it needed work. What can you do its done with. -J. Kellz
Posted by J. Kellz
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May 4, 2007 5:38 PM
Spider-Man 3 is the biggest flop of the season. I thought that X-Men 3 was a disappointment but MAN! Spider-Man 3 sucked big time. There were far too many plot lines for ONE movie. And what was with the pacing of the movie?? 20 minutes into the film I was asking my girlfriend "when's this movie gonna finish?!". It was far too melodramatic as well. How can Tobey Maguire cry so much??! I mean, Peter Parker is sensitive, but not THIS sensitive! For Christ's sake he's supposed to be over 17 atleast and he cries like a 3 year old girl for the majority of the movie! And what was with is lip-synching with Mary Jane's broadway performance?! Can you get any more pansy than that?! Thomas Hayden Church as Sandman was perfect except for the fact that he was wasted with not enough to do on his own, CG took over the majority of his performance. I have to say that the Harry and Peter resolution to join together was a nice littel twist, but MAN!!! that still doesnt save the movie one bit. The only good parts were with J.K. Simmonds and his take as J.Jonah Jameson. Venom...my goodness...so many things could have been done better with Venom, by Sam Raimi really screwed it up.
In the end, the movie was just too melodramatic...there was not enough sense of reality set into the movie to make it a decent fare. Save your money on this one folks. If you wanna watch a really bad musical with over the top melodrama..this is the movie for you. But good Lord, if yoú're a real Spidey fan, stay AWAY! If you're a movie fan, stay AWAY! if you're just plain sensible ---STAY AWAY!!
Another super hero franchise comes crashing down. The only resolution to this disaster is a fresh restart to the franchise like with Batman Begins. So I guess we'll see a new and hopefully better Spider-Man in 10 years time. If you wanna look forward to something, look forward to the Batman Begins Sequel. Spider-Man for now...is over.'Nuff Said!!
Posted by Wolverin81
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May 4, 2007 5:51 PM
Fans of the franchise will love this film, fans of the comics will hate it, fans of both will probably be in the middle somewhere. im the third and i was disappointed. as has been said, too much put into one movie. we didnt need 3 villans! venom is an iconic charachter in the comic book universe, let alone simply the spidey universe. the guy had his own comic book for gods sake! When I went to see the previous 2 films, i came out of the cinema wanting to go back and see it again, when i left the cinema today i didnt. i wanted to tell sam raimi all the things he had done wrong. i honestly feel let down by him and the screen writers. my main critique is venoms usage which was poor. grace was a good choice but not beefy enough. toby beefed up for the role of spiderman, why couldnt tropher workout for venom. and one little thing that REALLY annoyed me was venom died, and nobody even knew his name was venom, least of all venom himself! how lame! im hoping when venom was "exploded" and you saw eddies bones, what really happened was the symbiote was bonded onto his bones and stopped the death of venom...or something like that. he needs to be the main villan in the next one, and then him and spidey can do the team up thing against carnage! ok rant over, still some decent bits to the movie, and i guess ill still be buying it on dvd. ill give it 5.5/10
Posted by Sheriffsam
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May 4, 2007 6:24 PM
BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front)
I had the same problems as everyone else:
The source material was ignored.
Too much in this movie. They should have spread this out into a fourth movie, it looks like they were trying to get everything in because they didn't want to do a fourth.
Too many plot contrivances. Venom just happens to land next to Peter Parker's scooter just as Peter is about to discover his Uncle's real killer has escaped and become a super villan the week he plans to propose to Mary Jane and Harry decides to seek revenge? What are the odds?
So here're my thoughts:
Spiderman 3 is a good looking, well made movie that for most audiences will be a big giant thrill ride. For die hard fans it falls short of being the movie that it was made out to be.
It seems apparent that Star Tobey Maguire and Director Sam Rami were ready to wrap up the trilogy and move on. This film could have gone in several directions, and instead of picking one it did go in several directions. No idea or character was fully fleshed out or given enough screen time and Venom seems to be something that just gets stuck in.
It's a good movie that could have been great if not for the problems, and like many comic book movies it's when you start phoning in your respect for the source material that you kill the movie.
So let's look at the problems.
First the bad parts:
1) You destroyed the whole point of Spiderman. The guy Peter allows to escape is the SAME GUY THAT SHOOTS HIS UNCLE BEN. With out that the Spiderman message, "With great power comes great responsibility" has no value.
According to Spiderman 3, even if Peter had stopped the thief, Flint Marko would still have held up Ben Parker, and who knows if he would have put the gun down and went home or if he would have shot him anyway.
2) Oh, by the way from outer space: It's Venom!
You go through all that trouble to retcon Flint Marko into the origin story and then you introduce Venom by having a meteorite plop down right next to Peter and MJ's make out spot. Given, you couldn't do the Secret Wars version, but the 90's cartoon version had a better take than a random meteor. In that version Spiderman rescues some Astronauts from a downed shuttle and gets contaminated with the symbiote that was on the ship. (One of the Astronauts happens to be J Jonah Jameson's son and having Spiderman steal his son's thunder really hacks of JJJ) Even the Ultimate Spiderman version where the suit was part of Peter's Father's research would have felt more organic but apparently Avi Arad wanted Venom to be from space. Well Sam Rami checked that box.
3) Spiderman isn't invulnerable. He is really strong, but if you throw him hard enough to go through a brick wall, then he hit the wall hard enough TO KILL HIM. You never get the impression that Spiderman is more powerful with the black suit because you show him being Matrix level agile to begin with.
4) We know it's Toby and Topher. Stop taking the masks off to show their faces. Bryan Singer went with an unknown for Superman Returns because you don't want the audience looking up there and seeing Nicholas Cage, you want them to see Superman. Part of what made Steve Ditko's design so Amazing, was it's departure from all other costumes. No cape. No underwear on the tights, and that awesome Ninja like mask. It's like a pair of shades. You can't read pain or panic or anger on that face it just stares back at you. Let Toby and Topher act through their masks. The reason Andy Sirkis got so much respect for performing Golum in the Lord of the Rings movies is his performance is so solid, so good it comes through the CG.
5) Dr. Conners said he's not a biologist. Well he's supposed to be a Herpetologist, a biologist that studies reptiles. His experiments with the regenerative abilities with reptiles are what turn him into an insane, anthropomorphic lizard. See? Simple, neat, connected. And he's tied to Spiderman in a way that doesn't feel artificial like Sandman's did in this movie. He's Spiderman's professor. They both hang around the same college campus all day. Of course I don't see why there has to be a personal connection. It's like in Tim Burton's first Batman when they make the Joker be Thomas Wayne's killer. Not necessary. Just having a big giant sand monster stealing stuff and wrecking the city is enough to get the city's only superhero involved.
6) Venom. Remember when Venom was really scary? Spiderman 300? (By the way if Marvel was smart instead of putting Spiderman back in his black suit in current continuity they would re-release the Arc which introduced Venom) He was the only bad guy that knew spidey's identity and used it by showing up at his Aunt's house in a policeman's uniform and showing up at MJ's apartment and looking just like Spiderman, until he GREW A MOUTH. He terrorized Spiderman by immediately outclassing him in power and audacity and had him on the ropes and chased Spiderman across the city. Peter was so overwhelmed at one point he even considered hiding by putting on his civilian clothes because at that point Venom didn't know who Spiderman was. The movie Venom did look cool, for all three minutes you get to see him.
Also this was another missed chance to show Spiderman's genius. They show Peter being a science student by putting him in a science class in each movie but that's like telling us not showing us.
In the books Spiderman goes to Reed Richards for help and learns that the symbiote hates fire and sonics. That's how he knows to kill the thing in the bell tower. In Spiderman 3 when Spiderman decides to get rid of the symbiote he just happens to be near a bell tower that lets him do it? Talk about serendipity. At least they show him using this knowledge later, but having him discover this weakness at just the right time with no trial and error is yet another plot contrivance.
7) Dancing Toby. This is just Sam Rami signing his work. Toby should count his blessings that he has this gig, because it's the only leading man role he's likely to have and I can see him Dancing with the Stars pretty soon.
Now the good:
1) All the action. Incredible scenes. You get to see Spiderman be Spiderman.
2) James Franco and all the Harry/Goblin Jr. scenes. The story line with this could have been it's own movie. It probably should have.
3) Topher Grace. I didn't like how they compressed the story but Topher did a good job with what he was given.
4) Bruce Campbell. As Easter Eggs go that was a good bone to throw the fanboys.
5) The best part of the whole movie, and what really makes it a shame that too much stuff was stuffed into this movie: Sandman. His origin is as random a plot contrivance as is Venom's but both the Church's portrayal of Flint Marko and the Computer Graphics portrayal of that pitiful creature that tries to rebuild his lost human form are another great oppurtunity missed by trying to do too much in one film.
That scene by the way where Sandman first tries to form and you see his near featureless face stare and silently scream as he looks his inhuman body and tries to grasp his daughter's locket shows that animators, 2d or CG are as talented and as important to storytelling as any other artist in any other medium.
6) The women. Kirsten Dunst, Bryce Howard, Aunt May and Betty Bryant all did good work with what they had, although Princess Lea and Lois Lane combined don't get kidnapped that much.
Spiderman was a really good movie. But it was not the movie it could be because the film makers got greedy and the fans that stuck by Marvel through all the multiple covers, and bankruptcies, and Heroes Reborn and Clone Sagas deserve more.
Marvel, you screwed up Daredevil and the Hulk and was there really any demand for another half dressed hotchick fights movie (Elektra) I mean you had Buffy running for years, you have Resident Evil, and Tomb Raider out and those other sucky two that no one saw, Blood Rayne and Ultraviolet. Oh and Aeon Flux. Learn this term "flood the market" Or just repeat ninth grade and study supply and demand.
Anyway you destroyed all those properties, why did you have to screw up Spiderman? Better to have a good movie that doesn't tell all the storylines you want to do because your cast and director won't come back than to pack everything to one last movie and have three half @$$ed storylines. You killed the goose for the golden box office egg.
Oh in case Sam Rami reads this. Defend yourself man. If this was Marvel or Sony who screwed this up say so. We may not be being fair to you to rip you for everything (except Venom we all know it was you that screwed up that character.
Anyway I hate to say it but maybe Spiderman 3 will teach every future Filmmaker that when you make a comic book movie you better not cut corners for money. The Fanboys will turn on you, and a) not go see it repeatedly and b) slam you on the internet, dropping your sales further.
My real main worry with this though is that this movie might just be what kills off the recent run of comic movies. Studios might look at this film and see that even when they should have a sure thing, any less than perfect commitment can tank your profits.
Posted by bulldog1922
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May 4, 2007 6:45 PM
I thought the film was awesome. Some of it was a bit slow but the movie in all was great. I liked how Peter destoryed Brock in the film. The thing i didn't like in the film was the way Venom spoke. Plus he never referred to himself as "we". Other than that it was great. I liked that chrome Green Goblin mask that they showed as well.
Seeing Peter go from push over to overall "mr. attitude" was great. Seeing him make Ursela his cookie b*&*h was great. I like the dramatic story. I would definately go see this film again.
I give it a 9.8 out of 10
"You want forgiveness...get religion"
Posted by ultimatespyder
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May 4, 2007 6:47 PM
I thought it was pretty good. Some of it was annoying, and some of it was spectacular. It was also nice to see them having a bit of fun with themselves and the characters. I can't decide if I liked the second film or the third better. Each had great moments and not so great ones. Could have been better, could also have been much much worse.
Posted by moviemuse
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May 4, 2007 7:31 PM
Although it was a great movie, I found it as easily the worst of the trilogy. I think that because so much advertising was done, several clips were shown that could have killed excitiment in the theater. That's why I think Pirates of the Carribean is going to be so good because there is not nearly as much advertising as there was for Spider-Man 3. The effect I think were also something that threw me off the story a bit because they could have definately been better. Topher Grace also seemed odd. I think it would have been a little better if he were more in the movie and Venom had more of a dark side. Venom was great but, if he were shown causing mayhem and being unstopable as he is to Spider-Man, the character would have more significance to the film. It also seemed as if it dragged a bit and there were some things not followed up. Why did Harry force a break up with MJ? I didn't understand that much. But it was a great movie non the less!
Posted by DrewD408
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May 4, 2007 7:35 PM
well i just saw it today, and the movie theater was jam packed! i was really looking 4ward to this 3rd one and i already saw some video clips online, but that doesn't changed the movie. it was amazing! its really cool to combine and team up venom and sandman at the end. it really bad that Harry died. but its a cool team up. i was just dissapointed to eddie brock! the actor who played him is too small. he is a huge man, but i was satisfied with how they did venom, atleast they made his muscles big when he turned venom. the movie is great. i just watched it in a regular movie house. tomorrow me and my friends are going to universal studios hollywood to watch it in IMAX! still wanna see it a few more times... its cool!!! a really must see.... especially gwen stacy she's HOOOOTTTTT! =)
Posted by pauloa21
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May 4, 2007 8:00 PM
Saw Spider-Man today and have to say I enjoyed it to a point. My biggest gripe is that EVERYONE (except Aunt May) learns who Spidey is!! This is just plain tireing in these types of movies. What good is it for him to wear the costume if everyone knows who you are? I mean he could have easily gave that speech to Sandman with the torn mask on so his identity was still hidden. And what was up with him just blowing away?? It was nice to see it somewhat follow the comic,but now with Harry gone who's really left for him to connect with from the other films as a villian? The effects were outstanding as usual and Venom was great (wished he used the "I want to eat your brains" line though). Also what happened to the crane that was destroying the building? You see him save Gwen and then that's it. It looks like they went and tried to get too much in without thinking thru things to please everyone. I expected abit better from Sam. But it was still better than alot of other movies that have come out lately.
Posted by wolftoy
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May 4, 2007 8:50 PM
Being a Spider-man fan for 21 years I have to say I am dismayed by all the people who review this movie as crap as it didn't have the same pacing as one movie or the same drama as the other blah blah blah. The story itself was brilliantly thought out, the acting was amazing, the action, direction and CG was at the top of it's game. Even the score was gorgeous beyond compare. I personally felt it only fell short in the last 8 minutes, a rushed epilogue and suddenly my best friend is hurling abuse at this movie. OK, so we all have our own opinion and we all have a voice, it deserves to be heard and so on and so forth but just sit down and think about this film before you slander it. It could have done without Sandman, but he was a brilliant story telling device to show the darkness in Peter. The large number of characters helped give the audience of Peter's life moving too quick and spiraling out of control when in the black suit and the end, which even I view as a stumble, shows how now that the events are over that the gear has now shifted back. Oddly that's just like real life. As a character study it is without flaw, however some hollywood cheese used near the end of the film could've been taken away. The writer swept the loose ends under the rug and that is a shame but I would still proudly call this movie the best of the three and chalk up all the people who hated it to be the ones that didn't like the complex character driven stories that are needed in this films and probably blasted Hulk for the same reason.
Posted by dante424325
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May 4, 2007 8:56 PM
i have loved spidey for such a long time... but lemme give you some pointers...this film made no sense
1) what was the point of j. jamersons son going into space in the second film? wasnt he gonna bring back the symbeot... or did you forget? or was it Sam did want to hire another actor... TIGHT!
2) meteorite landing from space... thats too smaville for me...
3) spiderman is a geek like us all... but why the boring emotional parts... cut that down
4) when spidey is under the control of the symbyot he should have come across as more controlled cool like james bond but sinister...not a geek tryna be cool, but everyone on the street is laughing at him...
5) harry all of a sudden is a good guy... what a joke..
7) most shamefully another marvel flop... DC comics got quality over the quantity of Marvel...
8) Sam Raimi knows how to make and break a hero..
im very sad that my boy VENOW is finished... a long wait for nothing jus like AVP...
overall a 3/10 jus for the fight scenes... i was tryna stay awake throughout the movie
Posted by WAZZA
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May 4, 2007 9:40 PM
Let me preface this by saying I have been a lifelong fan of the Spiderman comics, in fact I still have a subscription to this day. I had a lot of faith in Sam based on the fact that he was a fan and he did a fantastic job on the first two films. Having said that........man was I disappointed.
The third film really seemed to be confused on the direction it wanted to take.
They gave a really good origin story for the Sandman but seemed die in a terrible fluff sequence in the end scene between him and Spidey.
The scenes with Venom were great! But let's face it Venom is a really big fan favorite villain and he had 15 minutes of screen time. I was looking forward to him the most as I think a lot of fans were and I don't think he was really given a fair shake.
T o be brutally honest I think I could have done with A LOT less singing and dancing and 45 minutes of unnecessary MJ and Peter relationship drama. Don't get me wrong, I understand that Peter and MJ's relationship is important to this story, it always has been. However I think they drug this part of the story out way to long.
It really saddens me to say I think this is the worst of the three. I am still a fan of Sam, not sure this was his fault. I think the execs may have gotten in the way a little too much here. But like X3.maybe a little too much and a little too all over the place to make it a good movie. I don't even think I will buy this one on DVD much less see it again in the theater
Posted by hsolo05
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May 4, 2007 10:01 PM
its a good movie, plain and simple, its not the best in the trilogy but its good. James Franco and Thomas Hayden Church stole the movie. Their performances were great. Tobey Maguire was good but not as good as the second movie and Kirsten Dunst just walked around with a frown, she wasn't that important in this movie, Topher Grace wasn't that good as Venom, he ahd his moments, overall he was ok. The fight scenes wree great in particular Harry and Peter. Effect were pretty good but the look of venom was not good like the face was good and so was his scream but body type was too much like spiderman, venom is supposed to be more jacked and yet he was not. overall the movie was good. I give it a 8 out of 10
Posted by Valanoski40
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May 4, 2007 10:03 PM
Ok so I got to see Spider-Man 3 on Wednsday night. I liked it over all but ENOUGH with these romance super hero movies!!!!!!!! Either it's A Spider-Man movie full of action and suspense, or it's a love story full of crying and dinner dates. It should NOT be both!!! With that being said, the action was fantastic but was used as filler in between the drama of Peter and Mary Jane. Sandman was far better than I expected! Thomas Hayden Church did a really nice job grasping the character. Harry had a great part and James Franco played it very well. Also I cant say enough good things about Venom. He looked monsterous! And was plenty twisted! I dont want to give away anything of the movie to those who have not yet seen it, but I feel like if things go the way they want you to think they are going, they just wasted one of the best characters in comics history with a 30 minute part and ONE fight scene. I understand that Sam Raimi isn't fond of Venom! Well, don't punish the rest of us that love him because you are a douche!!! It pains me to say that after Sam has directed some of the best-groundbreaking movies of all time, but I think he may have dropped the ball with Venom. I guess see it for yourself and gather your own opinion, but I would have like more Venom and less Peter/Mary Jane. Take this for what it's worth, but if Venom is not in Spider-Man 4, I'll stop caring about Spider-Man movies!! DO NOT waste an ICON like that!!!!!! Anyway, If you haven't already seen this film, STOP reading this RIGHT NOW and GO SEE IT!!!!
-Brian Ball-Z
myspace.com/alegacyofpain
Posted by Bald EVil
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May 4, 2007 10:05 PM
Sorry guys. I'm about as big a fan of Spidey as one can be and I would enjoy any movie Sam made. I don't think it was necesarily a bad movie, but it was by far the worst of the trilogy. I mean effing seriously, what the hell movie did you guys/morons see? There were so many characters and too many coincidences and cheesy action sequences, with the effect being that there was no time for the heart felt acting and character developement that made the first two movies so great. They didn't even begin to do Venom justice. When you are a fan of something you have to be critical of poor interpretations of it. Don't just be sheep who are entertained by an explosion. Again, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you guys are way off base. the movie didn't suck, but it was not great.
- Rob
Posted by Robon420
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May 4, 2007 10:21 PM
When I go to the movies and watch all the eye dazzling trailers I usually forget what I am watching, sometimes even wishing that I was watching one of those movies instead. Spider-Man 3 was one of those trailers, notice how I said trailers and not movies. I went into this movie expecting the best of the best. The movie took the crown for most expensive budget ever for a movie at $258 million, and third overall when numbers are adjusted for inflation. War and Peace coming it at a surprisingly high cost at 560 million. Either way this movie had everything going for it, it could be just an average film and somehow still manage to please all the fans, because Spider-Man can do no wrong .
Now let's get to the movie. It started off alright, although the introduction was a bit longer than most movies, and everyone knows how pointless and annoying they are especially when it's like the cherry on top of the trailers, commercials, and trivia questions that appear over and over. The movie starts out with little pathetic Tobey Maguire finally happy about his life, and everything is just going fabulous. School is great, Mary Jane loves him, and well the movie takes a sudden downfall about 2 minutes into it. Kirsten Dunst is singing a duet, and Parker is lip-sync hing it in a way you might find a fool who knows the song but not the words. Things take a quick down turn when Mary Jane loses her job and starts to complain like a typical girl about her life to Peter. Did we forget how much of a bitch she was in other movies to Parker when he wasn't known as Spider-man, and her life was just amazing? I didn't. Soon enough she makes his life fall apart, and Harry the little rich boy comes after Peter for payback. It's not really anything personal, he's just a bored young man, has no women, and wants to use his power on somebody. Anyway good old Spidey is nice and saves his life, and what do you know Harry forgets what happens.
Sooner or later, like the other two Spider-Man movies, he starts to question himself. After Mary Jane does enough crying and whining you start to want to smack her yourself, and then Harry comes back again in a vicious way. Mary Jane betrays him, and makes her big move on Harry. He then gets infected with the parasite tarish stuff. He becomes an Emo douche bag, pointing fingers and walking down New York like a jackass for about 15 minutes. Then he does the most embarrassing pelvic thrust I have ever seen on the big screen. This isn't a 1 second thrust, but about a good 30 seconds of him thrusting his pelvic. Parker then tries out his new style, and starts to become Jim Carrey, NO LIE. Just like the club scene with Cameron Diaz in the Mask, Tobey breaks out in the most atrocious display of a spoof of the Mask since it came out. There is about a 10 minute scene of him dancing around, gliding on a chair down the dance floor defying gravity, and get this, he brings down the house with his moves and piano playing skills. I honestly was waiting for him to open his mouth up and say "Smokingggg."
Bring in the villains, the Sandman is a joke, how do you defeat him? Then we got Venom played by Topher Grace, and he does an alright job in human form, but in no way is he a Venom. Things only get worse from here on. Harry and Peter have it out with a bang bang score during the whole fight scene, if this wasn't the score from Friday the 13th I don't know what is. Fast-forward a little more, the final battle takes place, Harry comes to help Spider-Man who wants again is left with his mask all ripped apart at the very end of the movie. He saves the day and manages to defeat the ever powerful Venom, and say good day to Sandman. Harry finally dies, and puts his life before Peter's. Mary Jane cries again in the end, for about the 18th time.Right before it ends the classic cemetery scene takes place like the first one. The movie is concluded the way it started, with Dunst singing. Ear plugs pleaseeeeee.
The acting was the worst I have ever seen by any of these actors. Mary Jane was just downright annoying, and pointless. Tobey was over the top, and I don't even know what Franco was smoking during his part. On top of that the score had to be an inside joke or something with other composers. The action scenes were all the same. They started off intense, slowed down at times, and switched the camera angles so much you weren't sure if you were looking from the ground up, or from inside Parker's camera lens. The whole movie seem like a horrible spoof on Spider-Man, throughout the whole 2 hours and 30 minutes there was stupid, pointless scenes. This movie gets a 2 out of 5, I just hope they stop producing this series now before it turns into Star Wars 1,2,3. Just so everyone knows I give the first Spider-Man a 5 out of 5. That was one of my favorite movies, I don't hate Sam Raimi or anyone else in the series, it's just that this movie was THAT bad.
Posted by baseball83
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May 4, 2007 10:28 PM
Ok...listen up. Let me give you some background. There are two different types of comic book movie fans, those who enjoy them for pure entertainment and those who enjoy them for bringing thier favorite characters into real-life through movies. I am part of the second group. I love nearly all superhero movies and appreciate all of the well done ones for what they are. The Spider-Man franchise is by far the best and most true to the comic books out of any series. They've done everything right to make all of the movies successful. They learned lessons from the failed Batman series of the 80's & 90's, and even fixed mistakes made by the people who screwed up my favorite hero, Superman. That being said, here you go.
If you love comics and if you loved the first 2 movies, you will love this flick. The Sandman was amazing, CGI was unreal...beyond being a villian, he became a real person which is so important. Harry and Peter finally settle their differences and finish thier story for good. Venom? Yeah, he's there...he's a bad mother too...awesome CGI...the only thing that I'll say is that I wanted MORE of him, but I saw this coming...he'll be back in Spidey 4...no doubt. Peter and Mary Jane stay as complicated as always and I personally didn't feel any resolution to their lives. Not as many loose ends were tied up as promised, but such is life.
DO NOT believe the people that say that there was "too much story" or that there was "too much packed in." It's not the case, the story is well written and makes logical sense. Pay attention...I personally liked having more action and more story to follow. I won't spoil the movie, but from an educated comic book readers perspective, I give this movie a 9/10. It was great...I only hope that 4, 5, & 6 will be just as good. Enjoy!
Posted by SuperHoff
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May 4, 2007 10:35 PM
OK...how to start...i was looking forward to this film sooooo much!! and honestly, i did enjoy it, but yet i feel dissapointed! maybe it has something to do with the high standards set by the first 2 films, but still i feel this was a slight bit dissapointing.
The CGI in the film was jaw dropping, so hats off to those who put in all that effort to make the CG scenes so realistic!
But on the story side i have to admit that i didn't agree. Venom is one of the most celebrated Spiderman villains of all time, yet he only gets a fraction of screening compared to the other villains, and without trying to ruin the film for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, his exit from the film was quite dissapointing. Infact this was the same for me with sandman too, i think it was all just a little bit rushed in the end after such a good and promising start to the film.
Overall i do recommend people to go and see this film, yet i think you should definately go and see this with an open mind!! it's quite hard to take in at times, but it does have its thoroughbly enjoyable momments, which includes most of the fight scenes and comedy momments bruce campbell did yet another great cameo, probably the best of the 3!)
Overall i'll give it a 6/10, it is good and worth watching for anyone looking for some amazing battle scenes and a sample of what today's technology can really do, but don't expect to be immensed into the story like i know most of us were courtesy of the first two films!
Posted by blink_maniac
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May 4, 2007 10:37 PM
This was a great movie. Its impossible to fit in the history and depth of the comics into 2 and 1/2 hours. Part of the movie adaptation process is portraying real people. They did a good job on bringing depth to the characters,with comic situations, going into problems and fights with plenty of breathing room. I do wish that they wouldnt have killed Venom, but they could always make up that a piece of the symbiote survived retaining brocks dna and brings him back or something. Honestly I wouldnt want Raimi back for the next 3, but if that is the only way to get back the cast then i guess, but we need someone better to make the villian choices. Hopefully the cast is only saying that to stay on Raimi's good side for other movie opportunities. Avi Arad had to convince him to do Venom so hopefully they'll do even better on Carnage!
Posted by Pepe69
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May 4, 2007 10:44 PM
I have to admit that the 2nd was superior, but not vastly. As for the WOW factor well most of us got immensely blown away with the 2nd but the 3rd is still mind blowing. All said the 3rd is a fitting end (for the meantime I hope) to a great trilogy that was worth waiting to any real Spidey Fan.
Posted by jaycrawler
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May 4, 2007 11:07 PM
I know a lot of people (including myself) think that last summer hollywood really f**ked up x-men: the last stand, but the way in which they slaughtered Spider-Man 3 pales in comparison. Daredevil, Hulk, and X-Men 3 were all better than this movie, and those ones are commonly considered some of the worst comic book adaptations.
The plot was jittery, to put it nicely. The symbiote's entrance was unexplained - The crane scene was strange, and Capt. Stacy and Brock were too nonchalant about Gwen hanging off a building - evil Peter Parker was sooo weird that it was comical - Sandman running to the particle physics test site was hokey and constructed - Bernard's sudden explanation about Harry's father was a total cop out - Spidey and Harry's team up was "campy" we'll say.
All these comic adaptations and great characters are really getting mangled by a film industry that only cares about getting you to the theatre and getting your money and then giving you all style (CG) and no substance. Film makers have to realize that they have only two hours of film and they really need to focus on one aspect that can be fully developed in that time frame. That's why a tv or comic series doesn't translate well. There's no effort to provoke thought or work on several emotional and intellectual levels. I long for the days when my tastes were simpler and I enjoyed the light-show of hollywood, but people around the age of 20 (the main comic book demographic) like myself expect more. After seeing shows like Firefly or movies like Little Miss Sunshine, we can't go back to this hollow cinema.
I think one of these other posts was right. This movie is like Batman Forever, and if they make another one it will be worse than Batman & Robin. That's why Batman Begins was so sucessful. It went back to the roots and the psychology of Batman and took out all the effects junk. Maybe in ten years we'll see a Spider-man Begins, but I doubt it.
Posted by mi0tch
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May 4, 2007 11:18 PM
They should have had Peter mind-linked to the costume and have it change it's appearance at his whim like in the comic book. They also should have made it a point that Brock knew what was in Parker's head after he linked with the symbiote and the fact that the costume blocked Peter's spider sense. (As if he even really has it in these movies, he gets hit by spit balls in class and anything else that comes his way as if he doesn't have it anymore). Besides a few nitpicking details, I thought it was great. Sam Raimi is a GOD.
Posted by ifeelyrpain6
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May 4, 2007 11:33 PM
ok...just got back from seeing Spider-Man 3...here's my review in detail...
I thought the CG Spidey effects (when he's swinging through the city) were waaay more improved upon, as opposed to the other two films...I guess they used some new high-tech digital effects lighting system, and it shows!...GRADE: B+
SANDMAN was a really cool villain to add to this one. The effects were cool, and his powers and abilities brought something new and fresh to the Spider-Man saga. His storyline was briefly touched upon. His reasonings for doing what he had done were greatly justified, however, at the beginning of the movie we see this very touching and emotional situation with Sandman that never finds a solution, and almost pulls away from the purpose of his personal quest...I would have liked to see him find the answer to his problem, but he did play an important role when it comes to Spider-Man's morality issues...GRADE: A-
VENOM...now, being a huge fan of the Venom character, I have very mixed emotions about what they had done with him and his storyline...A meteor falls from the sky one night, and on this little rock was an alien substance that latched itself on to Peter Parker's little scooter, and Peter winds up taking the thing home with him, but this stuff doesn't pop up in the movie until way later...IN THE ORIGINAL STORYLINES the black alien goo jumps on to Peter immediatly following it's discovery...but anyways, back to Venom...Topher Grace played his role rather well as Eddie Brock. He had just the right mix of smoothness, comic relief, and serious emotional issues, however, I think his appearances were really rushed through, and I think we should have seen a bit more of his personal life, so that we, the audience, could have connected with his character a little more...Eddie Brock transforming into Venom was a classic comic book moment, but the Venom character, on-screen, seemed a bit lacking in the "Bad-Ass" department...I mean, in the comics, Venom is, HANDS DOWN, Spidey's most formidable Arch Nemesis that shows no mercy when it comes to delivering an ass whoopin to Spider-Man. But we didn't see too much of that. It was there, but again, it seemed very rushed through...And I must admit that I was a bit dissapointed in the way that Venom was animated, as far as his physical appearance goes...I didn't like the way his physique sat when it was rested...there was no drooling, no tongue hanging out of his mouth, and when his mouth was closed, he looked like an old lady without her dentures...you would figure that with all of the teeth in his mouth, he would take more shape of his lgendary comic book physique...I just have this to say about Venom: They didn't completely ruin his character, and it was quite nestalgic to see him on the big screen, BUT they could have done a lot more to improve this character's storyline and physical appearance...GRADE: C
THE NEW GOBLIN/HARRY OSBOURN...at first I though to myself, "oh crap, here we go again, another Green Goblin story, this is gonna be lame!" But honestly, after seeing this film, I don't think that Spider-Man 3 would have succeded without this character!!! His storyline was THE most important in this film...I'm not a huge Green Goblin fan in the first place, but this character brought something new and EXTREMELY emotional to the Spidey saga..."Friendship" was this character's theme...In the first movie, Harry Osbourn was Peter's best friend, and very similar to Peter in a lot of ways...In the second film, Harry was a bit more egotisticle, and concerned about money and most of all, REVENGE for his father's death...In this third installment, we see Harry at his most evil, AND at his most nicest, AND we see him do a complete change at the end of the film that gives us one of the MOST SPECTACULAR fight sequence in Spider-Man history!!!! And leaves us a little teary-eyed by the time the movie ends!!!
GRADE: A+
BLACK SUITED SPIDER-MAN...I was really dissapointed in the black sybiotic suit...In the comic books, the black goo actually BONDS with Peter Parker's flesh and can mimic different clothing and can assume many different forms, and it has many different physical values and uses for Peter Parker, that ORIGINALLY, this is what "seduces" Peter into wanting to keep this thing bonded with him...WE DON'T GET TO WITNESS ANY OF THESE SPECIAL VALUES AND CHARACTERISTICS IN SPIDER-MAN 3!!!! BOOOOOO!!!! He actually takes off this symbiote, as if it were regular clothing, and the storyline only explains that when Peter is wearing this particular suit, it triggers his negative emotions...THAT'S ALL FOLKS!!!...So my question to Sam Rami (the director), is that if Peter can just remove this thing like his regular Spidey-suit, then WHY did he have to peel this thing off of him in the church tower???!!!!....When Eddie Brock becomes Venom, we DO get to see the morphing characteristics of what the suit was originally meant and able to do...but again, it was briefly touched upon...But it was cool to see the black suit in action...
GRADE: D
Overall, I really did enjoy this movie...Lots of action, lots of characters, loats of emotion...I really hope to see this again soon...It was not only a cool "comic book" flick, but, especially towards the end, it becomes a heart-warming tale of love, friendship, and human values...it was a really good drama and it really wraps up everything from the previous 2 movies rather nicely...So if you're a fan of the Spider-Man movies, I think you're really going to like this installment...But you have to watch the other two to even remotly have a clue as to what's going on!!! IF they do decide to make a Spider-Man 4, I honestly think for it to work, it should be hard-corely dedicated to Venom. But if they never make another Spider-Man movie again, this was a great finale' and wrap-up to the Spider-Man trilogy...I'd be satisfied with that...
OVERALL GRADE: B-
Posted by blissted78
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May 4, 2007 11:37 PM
I liked the movie very much. I think tha the Sandman story was very good and should of just sticked with him as the main villian. I thought the movie was awesome until the end. The very end of the movie sucked, it wasn't a Spider-Man ending. I also thought Topher Grace was not a good Venom...through out the Movie i thought was watching Eric Formane from another episode of That 70's show, waiting to see Red Formane to say "Dammit Dumbass, i am this close to putting my foot up your ass".
I did think it was shocking to see Harry die. I think it brought more drama in the movie. I think that the movie should of just focused on Peter's conflict with his family and friends, the Black suit, and his conflict with the Sandman and Harry, and just see the making of Venom and let him be the villian in the next movie.
Like i said the end of the movie sucked. I didnt get any closure from it. It was kinda like X3..how it didnt fill in all of the caps. All in all, it was a good movie, alot shocking things happened, good action, and i would give this movie an 8/10.
Posted by gman829
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May 4, 2007 11:56 PM
Just to add to my post above: I think they purposely made evil Peter weird, annoying, and over the top so that the audience would not LIKE him. I commend the Spider-man films for being unafraid of allowing sympathy for villans and trying to understand them rather than hate them, but the film seemed to force us to hate evil Peter instead of giving us a vigilante Spider-man that we're supposed to be conflicted about (like the Boondock Saints).
I sure hope Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer isn't as bad as this movie. But it shouldn't be.
These comic book adaptation trilogies follow a pattern: The first one is great, not just because it has the origin story (which is interesting by default, putting the sequels at a disadvantage) but also because it focuses on the small essential themes. The second film will always be a little disappointing (more CG and less substance) but it still satisfies. And as we can see from X-Men: The Last Stand and now Spider-man 3, the third one is god-awful (in contrast to the "third time's a charm" saying). By the third movie the producers and everyone involved has lost thier way and lost track of what the myth (yes myth!) is all about. They try to put an entire comic series in one movie. Less is more!
Posted by mi0tch
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May 5, 2007 12:09 AM
I thought this was the best of all. it was something special to be made. it was just as i pictured it, the cast was just right, it equaled out on comedy, action, and drama just right. in my heart, i think they should leave it where it stands, but if Sam Raimi wants another one i will go see it.I would also like to say Topher freakin Grace, where have you been in a performance like this, you will hit it big. Tobey Maguire and Thomas Haden Church played their parts so well with drama. I was saddened by Harry's death though. But it was time for the character to go. Both of the villans, Venom and Sandman both had really sad stories, which made the movie so compelling to tell a good and intriguing story.
In all i would give it a 10 out of 10 for being superb, almost like a perfect meal, right seasning, great taste, and fills you up. I now cannot sit still to see Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer and i am absoulutely dying to see The Dark Knight with Heath Ledger as Joker, and Iron Man with Downey, Jr. in lead.
Posted by TheIrishMovieMan
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May 5, 2007 1:23 AM
Awesome Effects... but the plot line was terrible... The scene with Harry and his man servent was dry and completly unbelievable... The tension was set up scene after scene only to be resolved by some silly solution or the resolution was ignored completely (ie Harry making MJ break up with Pete)... The villians were soft... Sandman, while the FX were AMAZING, he was a WUSSY!... The team up with Sandman and Venom was VERY poorly set up... Venom-"Hey Sandman, SPidey wants your kid to die, how about we team up and kill him?" Sandman-" Um, ok." This is just a few examples... OH! and the dancing scene... I swear I almost walked out.. no kidding... what was Sam thinking there?? This is the "Batman and Robin" of this franchise... no doubt Sam jumped the shark.
Posted by kozgear
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May 5, 2007 1:45 AM
I thought this movie was the best out of all the movie. The action sequences kept me upright in my seat. I really hope that Tobey Maguire and Kristen Dunst keep playin their parts. If not, i'm definitely not goin to watch the next spiderman cuz I really like them playin Spiderman and Mary Jane. They play their parts really well. If they do decide to play the parts, i'll definitely be looking forward to the 4th movie.
Posted by orangjooce
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May 5, 2007 1:55 AM
it was terrible..after the second movie, i expected so much more....the performances were dull, and whiney, the story had nowhere to go, not even the humor wich worked so well in the previous films worked here. sandman serves no purpose, and whats odd, is venom makes more sense as a villan, and has a better story, sandman seems there just as a filler, wich isnt needed in this overlong, overpacked bore of a film. this film has no emotion, and never gets out of first gear. i will say that venom was cool, but not enough to save this absolute mess of a film. overall this is 2 stars, and i feel like im being generous giing it that.
Posted by kazuothesixth
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May 5, 2007 3:02 AM
Ok what is up with some of you saying that this was a terrible movie. Where were you and what movie did you see? Obviously not Spider-Man 3 that's for sure. I thought that it was the best of the trilogy. I would like to see those of you who are saying this was a terrible movie do a better job. Yes there was a lot packed into this, but that's what was great about it. And yes Venom was on the screen for a short time, but the short time he was on there he kicked some ass. He looked exactly as he did in the comics. And don't count him out because there is a possibility for a 4th movie. If Sam Raimi knows how much Spidey fans want another movie he will do it. All of the actors put on a great performance. And are we forgetting, for those who are complaining about Sandman ending up a good guy and saying Spider-Man 2 was better, you seem to be forgetting that Doc Ock ended up a good guy as well. Yes he was killed off, but he still ended up a good guy. This movie was well worth the wait. And I'm sorry, but if you were laughing in the serious parts of the movie then there is something wrong with you. I didn't appreciate that at all when people did that in the movie theater. Anyways getting back to the movie. As far as the Harry helping Peter thing goes I thought that was well done. Everything about this movie was well done. For those of you who are saying this movie was terrible you have problems.
Posted by blacksuit19
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May 5, 2007 3:22 AM
i loved the movie. it really needed more of venom and the background with spidey, as venom is spidey's all time villan. just seemed like raimi threw a ton of stuff together and said" ook, here it is, watch it, im done." im really getting tired of the whole love interest and how mj seems to get into all the trouble, almost like raimi is just doing to keep a big name in the script. harry should not have died, neither should venom. i think raimi has done a good job, but either needs to get back on track, or quit. but i still loved it.
Posted by moviefreak
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May 5, 2007 4:10 AM
I loved it (despite dunst's singing) Still room for more including Venom! Definately leave the kids under 5 home. A truer sequel to the first movie than 2.
Posted by Cashman
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May 5, 2007 5:52 AM
Spidey 3 ain't that bad. I was never a big fan of the first one, and thought the second outing was good, though both were dumbed down with too many repeats of the "with great power comes great responsibility" morals. It would've been too predictable and formulaic to use just one villain per show, and a tad boring. After having read a number of horrible reviews on this one, I had pretty low expectations going in. But I have to say, for me it's the best one yet. As in Batman Begins, it worked well without having to flesh out all the villains in scrutinous detail. Naturally it doesn't carry great depth - it's a Spider-man film! Though I found myself in tears near the end. Which rarely, if ever happens to me.
I sat and waited for all these scenes that people said were out of place, but I thought it was all quite cohesive and not a mess at all. Well rounded off by Raimi. It actually felt like reading some of the best Spider-man comics from my youth. Hat's off to the film-makers, lots of fun.
Posted by Plywood
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May 5, 2007 5:59 AM
To begin I would have to say that this was by far the worst movie in the series. I tried to convince myself that it was a let down because of how good Spiderman 2 was, but it wasn't the case. My first major issue with the film was the plot line. The previous two focused on the villian, with Spiderman's issue (learning his power, balancing life) being the subplot. In this one it is the opposite. The focus is on dark Spiderman and the villians take a back seat. We know nothing of the Sandman's motives until the end of the movie and it was just so difficult to connect with the Giant Sand Monster - no human characteristics to it. And it seemed the whole purpose of rewriting Uncle Ben's death was simply to connect the Sandman to Peter Parker but it just didn't work. Again, I feel the character of Venom was wasted. He looked cool with the CGI and I believe Topher Grace did an excellent job but that villian had so much more possibilities. The previous two movies and even with Sandman, the villians have been people with alterior motives that come into contact with Spiderman because he happens to get in the way. Venom is one of the only villians who is a villian based on his hatred for Spiderman. They just could have done so much more with the character.
The bad Peter Parker lame and I found myself embarassed to be watching him during his dance number and when he was trying to pick up on the women walking down the street. The interactions with Harry were good, but when they are fighting together at the end I just kept thinking of Batman and Robin and how lame it was to see Spiderman riding the Goblin's Glider with the Goblin!
Overall I was disapointed, much like when I saw X-3. It just seemed to put too many characters in the movie that are not developed, (What was the point of Gwen Stacy?). Spidey's boss at the Bugle was funny as always and Bruce Campbells cameo was good as well, but it was just such a poorly constructed mess.
Posted by saltman79
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May 5, 2007 6:25 AM
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A disappointing addition to a previously solid franchise.
Too many villains, the tormented duplicity of Venom is never touched upon, plus seeing and hearing Venom talk in Eddie Brocks voice shed any sense fear that his look effectively perpetrated. If that wasnt reason enough to scrub my eyes with a brillo-pad, there's the campy The Mask style musical number, and a highly underused Gwen Stacy who should be more of a threat to MJ like in the comics.
The tone was all wrong and Sam Raimi wasted a perfect opportunity to explore the evil elements of Spiderman like bad Superman in Superman 3 flicking peanuts at a mirror in a bar - is that what a morally corrupt superhero would do - get an emo haircut and play piano at a jazz bar?
What was the point of the black suit, it didnt make him any stronger. Just made him a bit of a douchebag. And why kill Harry? The only villian with any real motive to destroy Spiderman. Peter and Mary Janes relationship was inconclusive. It was just too rushed like Sandmans transition, just seemed a little arbitrarily convenient.
In my opinion, this should have been the darkest of the three films. I wouldn't have bothered with the Sandman, although he probably has the most emotionally involving scenes in Spidey3 and would have a primary focus on Venom terrorising the city with dark-Spidey using his powers irresponsibly for kicks and looking like a heroin junkie as his black suit is an addiction. Gwen Stacy should have been there from the second movie in place of Ursula Ditkovitch planting the seeds of doubt that would have had more of an impact in the third.
Just lazily scripted and lacking the passion to do anything different or original.
Posted by lyh
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May 5, 2007 6:49 AM
Personally, I thought it was excellent. Granted, the first time I saw it, I came away wondering where it really fit into my ranking, but now that I've seen it a second time, I have a better idea about it. Even being a huge fan of the comics, I thought it was great. I loved the humor, though the visuals were amazing and just overall liked the story. There wasn't anything that happened that I really felt gypped about. Perhaps a disclaimer... Despite being a huge Venom fan, I really didn't want him in the movie because I knew beforehand that it would be hard to do Venom well.
Now that I've seen the movie, I maybe think that just the Goblin/Sandman story would have worked a little better, but I think they did a great job with Venom. It far exceeded my expectations. So he doesn't talk in second person plural. So what? So he doesn't terrorize the city in the movie. Well, Eddie Brock wouldn't do that anyway. Eddie/Venom is a creature that's fueled by revenge and focuses solely on defeating Spidey. I fail to see how that doesn't mesh with what happened in the movie. Could they have fleshed it out a little more? Sure, but then you'd probably have people complaining that the movie was too long.
Sandman was superb in all of the ways that I had hoped. Visuals were awesome, acting was great.
Goblin was a pleasant surprise. I thought that portion was great, despite the suit change et al.
Something that I wonder if people understand is that, while he's wearing the black suit, the audience needs to hate Peter in order to be okay with him going back to the red and blues. Personally, I thought they did a great job with this.
Well, those are my brief comments. Again, I thought the movie was great and I really feel like it's a different kind of movie than the first two. And I've got not problem with that. I still can't decide whether I like 2 or 3 better, but that's because of what I just said. I don't feel... right... about comparing the two as closely. It's almost like comparing a lion to a cougar to me. Same general thing, but a different breed in a sense.
For me, this movie gets a 9.5/10.0 easily.
Posted by VenomZ302
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May 5, 2007 8:57 AM
Spider-man 3 is by far the best of the series. The characters are excellent, the villans are spectacular, and the story is very interesting. I do agree it does start of sort of slow but soon after it picks up and becomes something great. The music to the film is also very fitting especially during the battle sequences. Oh, I should add how astonishing the transformations are to the villans. Overall this Spidey flick is something worth checking out.
Posted by Zach
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May 5, 2007 9:49 AM
*Spoilers*
*Seriously! Spoilers!*
Well, went to the first showing of Spiderman 3 today at my local Cinema and let me tell you, I've been going crazy for this movie for MONTHS!
Granted my day didn't exactly start off well when my Alarm decided not to go off... but at least my friends were good enough to ring me to tell me to wake up. Fortunatly When we got there the doors hadn't even opened yet so that was ok.
The one thing I've learnt from Spiderman 3 is that you do indeed get cookies if you turn to the Darkside.
The film started off fair enough. Peter's life is great, Mary Jane is being famous with a voice that can't get past the front row, (How she pasted the auditions I don't know) and of Course Harry is all 'I'm gonna kill you Peter' still.
So MJ is all singing and then they sit in a web in a park not noticing that a meteor hits the ground just feet away from them, nor noticing the black glob come out of the meteor and attach itself to Peter's bike.
This is also one of the many flaws in this film. It just appeared, no coming down with a spaceshuttle, it just came and jumped on his bike, would have prefered a bit more story on that.
Symbiote: Yay! I'm here for no Raisin! Oooh a bike! I shall attach myself to it! Yaaaaay! Time for Adventure!
Whoo, Peter is going to Marry MJ, yay! Good for them and then Harry tries to kill him with 'New Goblin-ness' though he doesn't do that well and I'm reminded of that old joke. 'new Goblin flies into a Bar... Spiderman swings under it.'
(Note that we never see Peter's bike again after he is pulled off it. I'm guessing the Symbiote got off it before hand.)
It seems by sheer chance that that bang to the noggin makes him forget about Peter being Spiderman and the need for revenge... in fact it turns him into a painter.
Harry: Rah! I'm The New Goblin! Gonna kill peter! *DONG!* Ow, I forget things... Let's paint some pretty flowers!
Of course as these scenes jump about we meet Flint Marko who of course needs to have a sick Daughter and a pissed off Ex Wife both of which we will never see again, but it's just to show he has feelings.
Of course he gets chased into a particle accelerator by the police which by sheer chance is being tested out right that moment when he falls into it (What are the chances?)
Scientist one: There seems to be a lot of silicon on the test machine
scientist two: probably a bird, it'll fly away once we start it up
scientist one: shouldn't we take a look to see if it's actually a person or something?
scientist two: Nah, that would require looking out the window.
I do like the way that sandman got himself back together afterwards, it was pretty heartfelt although again leads to another flaw.
Particle Accelerators: breaks apart everything... except Lockets containing precious memories!
Anyway, back to Happy Peter's happy life full of being happy.
MJ loses her job and Spiderman is loved by all including Gwen Stacy whom he saves from a photoshoot when a crane goes out of control as they do.
In that scene we also meet 'Brock sir, Eddie Brock Jr.' a smooth talking photographer who is apparently dating Gwen even though it seems they just had coffee and she never wants to see him again.
See, again we have another problem with this film. Brock only appears in a few scenes, granted they are important ones but we were constantly told by Rami that whilst Peter had a happy childhood Brock had an unhappy one... thing is, we don't actually see this 'unhappy childhood' nor even a mention of it, so we don't really get to know much about him.
Now why Spideman let Gwen Stacy kiss him so passionatly IN FRONT of MJ I'll never know. God! What an idiot! It would be forgivable if he had been possessed at this point by the suit but no, still in the classic red and blue. It's understandable why she was a wee bit annoyed.
This does lead to a funny scene with Bruce campbell. Yay for Bruce and his french accent!
Then we meet Sandman. Yup he's powerful and Parker can't beat him but then we find out it was really Sandman who killed his uncle (Bad Sandman. Baaaad!) which pisses him off greatly and makes him veeeeeeeeeeeeeery angry.
Huzzah it's Symbiote time!
Peter: OMGZ! I'm Black... and awesome!
*three seconds later*
Dr. Conners: This thing bonds to people and when it bonds it'll probably be bad for the person being bonded to it... so don't wear it
Peter: Ok
*ten minutes later*
Peter: WHEEEEEEE! I love wearing this black costume! Time to kick Sandmans ass!
Sandman gets his ass kicked, Peter parker decides to make his hair look more Emo... possibly to show that he's more moody now
Peter: I feel angry... I'm gonna push my hair down a little!
He also gets Brock fired when he's exposed for photoshopping a pic of Spidey stealing a bag of cash. bad Eddie Brock Jr. baaaad!
Then of course mary Jane is feeling all depressed from hearing peter talk about himself all day and decides to 'do the twist' with harry at his home which results in her kissing him (Bad MJ! Baaaad!) and Harry turning Goblin again as well as seeing Daddy, (William Dafoe should have been in that film more) and makes Mary jane dump Pete. Bad Harry! Baaaaad!
And then Peter realises it was harry's doing and kicks his ass and throws a bomb at him (But not killing him, we can't be having him dying juuuust yet!)
Though Pete decides that if he's gonna be single again he might as well enjoy it and starts doing a stupid yet hilarious strut down the street eyeing up every woman he can before acting like he's in charge of the Bugle then finally he tops it all off by demanding cookies and milk from the daughter of that guy who always demands rent (seems you only have to shout at that guy and he instantly turns nice)
Of course he gets a phone call from Dr. Conners again.
Dr. Conners: This things Amplifies Agression... and forces the wearer to perform cheesey disco dancing to impress the ladies.
Peter: That's great Doc. *looks at skinny girl* You! I demand nuts in my cookies! I've already joined the darkside, and I demand the cookies that i have been promised!
Skinny girl: well there's no nuts in these cookies but I'll make some new cookies because I'm your bitch! Wheeeeeeee!
Peter starts dating Gwen (no real reason, he just does) and rubs her in Mary Janes face who is now working as a singing waiter via playing a piano, followed by a cheesy dance finished by a sexy tango in front of MJ which upsets Gwen because she doesn't like being used.
We never see Gwen again. Nope. Nothing. She's served her purpose for this movie. Well... she's at Harry's Funeral but that doesn't count because as far as i can see she had no reason to be there.
Peter gets pissed, gets in a fight and accidentally hits MJ. Bad Peter. Baaaaad!
He then goes to a church to remove the suit... which results in ANOTHER flaw. Symbiotes can't stand loud noise, but peter had no idea before he goes into the church in the film so it just looks like he just goes into the church for no reason and it was just by chance that he got the suit off thanks to accidentally hitting the bell.
Now here's another complaint. Eddie became Venom too quickly and the black suit didn't appear enough. The damn thing fell onto him just as Spidey takes off the suit. I think that scene would have been done better if he had turned into Venom AFTER Peter had left the church.
Soo... MJ gets kidnapped after Venom and Sandman make a deal to kill Spidey.
Sandman: I'm gonna kill you Spiderman.
Venom: I'm not Spiderman but i wanna help you because I know you have a sick kid.
Sandman: how do you know I've got a kid?
Venom: read it in the script, though I notice we don't actually know what happens to her. She's probably dead by now you know.
Peter askes Harry for help (Yup, Harry still lives only with half his face scarred.)
Peter: Harry, I need your help.
Harry: Piss off I'm brooding, my face is a mess now. no girl will every like me!
Peter: ok, I'll go and save the day by myself, but first i've gotta go pose in front of the American Flag to prove i'm Patriotic.
*five minutes later Harry is still brooding in his Goblin Lair when harry's Butler arrives*
Butler: Oh btw, I knew that your father killed himself on his glider for years... probably should have mentioned that earlier... But I loved him... and I love you... and no I'm not a Homosexual, just bi-curious.
So Peter fights Venom and Giant Sandman (who looks like the staypuff Marshmellow man) and I have to say that Venom really does look great! They got his look down perfectly and unlike all the other bad guys in all three movies he's actually all the way through evil. He wants to be the bad guy and he has great teeth.
My one problem is Rami's supposed need to constantly show Venoms human face when he talks. For crying out Rami, I know you don't like masks because they can't show emotion but Venom has a bloody MOUTH when he's covered up, just have him talk with his venom face for more than 2 seconds! We've seen Brocks face, we wants Venom now! That said Venom fought well and looked great and I really REALLY wished you had saved him for later film so we could see more of him.
Anyway, Peter and Harry Team up and start kicking ass which lead to a pretty dumb line when Peter is on harry's board.
Harry: *whilst he and peter on on his skyboard* Hold on!
Peter: Hold onto what?
Harry:... you've got fricken spider powers you twat! Hold on with your feet!
Peter: Oh yeah... Sorry I forgot.
(New Goblin flies into a bar... Venom swings over it and laughs)
Sandman is of course huge now and menacing and making Godzilla noises and there's all these people crowded round including a terribly british woman reporter whom I've now added to my list of people I want to dunk into acid. But seriously, I've heard of bad parenting but this was some of the worst I've seen!
Child: Mommy mommy look! A giant sand creature is smashing things! Can we get closer?
Mommy: Of course! I'm sure we're not in any danger!
Child: Wicked cool!
At least we didn't have Spiderman being saved by the New York public in this movie... thank God! (Though we have two kids saying cheesy cliched hip words from the 1990's)
The problem was with Venom was that he would fight for a few seconds then disappear whilst they attack Sandman. Where the heck did he go? I like to think he was chomping on Gwen Stacy's brains in revenge which would explain where she went and where he goes at the same time.
The annoying thing though that when Harry and Peter teamed up I got that damn song from lazytown stuck in my head (I'm a student, students watch Lazytown)
Harry: Team work do it together
Peter: Oh! Oh!
Harry: Team work friends forever
Peter: Oh! Oh!
Harry: We're all for one and one fo--ACK!
Venom: Raaaah! I stab you with your own Board!
Harry: Oh the irony!
So Harry dies, Venom (Who after splitting from Eddie turns into a giant monster goo that does NOTHING) is blown up with Eddie because Eddie wanted to keep the power so there's no chance for him to reappear again (Bastards!) and Sandman says he's sorry, gets forgiveness, buggers off.
MJ and Peter get back together and Spiderman once again needs to buy a new mask.
Now I didn't hate this film by a long shot, I enjoyed it immensly but it does prove once again that too many villians can screw things up the pacing and means we can't get to know as much as we want. When I read Empires review I thought they were being overly harsh but now after watching the movie I can see that they had a point.
Non the less I give this movie a 3 and a half out of 5.
It had some great laughs with Stan Lee and Bruce Campbell and J. K. Simmons. (some guys next to us laughed very loudly when they saw Stan Lee) The battles were brilliantly done, very emotional scenes, just let down by having too much crammed in.
If there is gonna be a Spiderman 4 please let's have only one or two villians, 3 is now the official no no.
Maybe we'll see Carnage in the next film, or perhaps lizard. Afterall, the main Symbiote was burnt to a crisp but Conners still had a sample of it.
That's me done true believers. ^_^
*End Spoilers*
Posted by silverbolt2012
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May 5, 2007 10:21 AM
*Spoilers*
*Seriously! Spoilers!*
Well, went to the first showing of Spiderman 3 today at my local Cinema and let me tell you, I've been going crazy for this movie for MONTHS!
Granted my day didn't exactly start off well when my Alarm decided not to go off... but at least my friends were good enough to ring me to tell me to wake up. Fortunatly When we got there the doors hadn't even opened yet so that was ok.
The one thing I've learnt from Spiderman 3 is that you do indeed get cookies if you turn to the Darkside.
The film started off fair enough. Peter's life is great, Mary Jane is being famous with a voice that can't get past the front row, (How she pasted the auditions I don't know) and of Course Harry is all 'I'm gonna kill you Peter' still.
So MJ is all singing and then they sit in a web in a park not noticing that a meteor hits the ground just feet away from them, nor noticing the black glob come out of the meteor and attach itself to Peter's bike.
This is also one of the many flaws in this film. It just appeared, no coming down with a spaceshuttle, it just came and jumped on his bike, would have prefered a bit more story on that.
Symbiote: Yay! I'm here for no Raisin! Oooh a bike! I shall attach myself to it! Yaaaaay! Time for Adventure!
Whoo, Peter is going to Marry MJ, yay! Good for them and then Harry tries to kill him with 'New Goblin-ness' though he doesn't do that well and I'm reminded of that old joke. 'new Goblin flies into a Bar... Spiderman swings under it.'
(Note that we never see Peter's bike again after he is pulled off it. I'm guessing the Symbiote got off it before hand.)
It seems by sheer chance that that bang to the noggin makes him forget about Peter being Spiderman and the need for revenge... in fact it turns him into a painter.
Harry: Rah! I'm The New Goblin! Gonna kill peter! *DONG!* Ow, I forget things... Let's paint some pretty flowers!
Of course as these scenes jump about we meet Flint Marko who of course needs to have a sick Daughter and a pissed off Ex Wife both of which we will never see again, but it's just to show he has feelings.
Of course he gets chased into a particle accelerator by the police which by sheer chance is being tested out right that moment when he falls into it (What are the chances?)
Scientist one: There seems to be a lot of silicon on the test machine
scientist two: probably a bird, it'll fly away once we start it up
scientist one: shouldn't we take a look to see if it's actually a person or something?
scientist two: Nah, that would require looking out the window.
I do like the way that sandman got himself back together afterwards, it was pretty heartfelt although again leads to another flaw.
Particle Accelerators: breaks apart everything... except Lockets containing precious memories!
Anyway, back to Happy Peter's happy life full of being happy.
MJ loses her job and Spiderman is loved by all including Gwen Stacy whom he saves from a photoshoot when a crane goes out of control as they do.
In that scene we also meet 'Brock sir, Eddie Brock Jr.' a smooth talking photographer who is apparently dating Gwen even though it seems they just had coffee and she never wants to see him again.
See, again we have another problem with this film. Brock only appears in a few scenes, granted they are important ones but we were constantly told by Rami that whilst Peter had a happy childhood Brock had an unhappy one... thing is, we don't actually see this 'unhappy childhood' nor even a mention of it, so we don't really get to know much about him.
Now why Spideman let Gwen Stacy kiss him so passionatly IN FRONT of MJ I'll never know. God! What an idiot! It would be forgivable if he had been possessed at this point by the suit but no, still in the classic red and blue. It's understandable why she was a wee bit annoyed.
This does lead to a funny scene with Bruce campbell. Yay for Bruce and his french accent!
Then we meet Sandman. Yup he's powerful and Parker can't beat him but then we find out it was really Sandman who killed his uncle (Bad Sandman. Baaaad!) which pisses him off greatly and makes him veeeeeeeeeeeeeery angry.
Huzzah it's Symbiote time!
Peter: OMGZ! I'm Black... and awesome!
*three seconds later*
Dr. Conners: This thing bonds to people and when it bonds it'll probably be bad for the person being bonded to it... so don't wear it
Peter: Ok
*ten minutes later*
Peter: WHEEEEEEE! I love wearing this black costume! Time to kick Sandmans ass!
Sandman gets his ass kicked, Peter parker decides to make his hair look more Emo... possibly to show that he's more moody now
Peter: I feel angry... I'm gonna push my hair down a little!
He also gets Brock fired when he's exposed for photoshopping a pic of Spidey stealing a bag of cash. bad Eddie Brock Jr. baaaad!
Then of course mary Jane is feeling all depressed from hearing peter talk about himself all day and decides to 'do the twist' with harry at his home which results in her kissing him (Bad MJ! Baaaad!) and Harry turning Goblin again as well as seeing Daddy, (William Dafoe should have been in that film more) and makes Mary jane dump Pete. Bad Harry! Baaaaad!
And then Peter realises it was harry's doing and kicks his ass and throws a bomb at him (But not killing him, we can't be having him dying juuuust yet!)
Though Pete decides that if he's gonna be single again he might as well enjoy it and starts doing a stupid yet hilarious strut down the street eyeing up every woman he can before acting like he's in charge of the Bugle then finally he tops it all off by demanding cookies and milk from the daughter of that guy who always demands rent (seems you only have to shout at that guy and he instantly turns nice)
Of course he gets a phone call from Dr. Conners again.
Dr. Conners: This things Amplifies Agression... and forces the wearer to perform cheesey disco dancing to impress the ladies.
Peter: That's great Doc. *looks at skinny girl* You! I demand nuts in my cookies! I've already joined the darkside, and I demand the cookies that i have been promised!
Skinny girl: well there's no nuts in these cookies but I'll make some new cookies because I'm your bitch! Wheeeeeeee!
Peter starts dating Gwen (no real reason, he just does) and rubs her in Mary Janes face who is now working as a singing waiter via playing a piano, followed by a cheesy dance finished by a sexy tango in front of MJ which upsets Gwen because she doesn't like being used.
We never see Gwen again. Nope. Nothing. She's served her purpose for this movie. Well... she's at Harry's Funeral but that doesn't count because as far as i can see she had no reason to be there.
Peter gets pissed, gets in a fight and accidentally hits MJ. Bad Peter. Baaaaad!
He then goes to a church to remove the suit... which results in ANOTHER flaw. Symbiotes can't stand loud noise, but peter had no idea before he goes into the church in the film so it just looks like he just goes into the church for no reason and it was just by chance that he got the suit off thanks to accidentally hitting the bell.
Now here's another complaint. Eddie became Venom too quickly and the black suit didn't appear enough. The damn thing fell onto him just as Spidey takes off the suit. I think that scene would have been done better if he had turned into Venom AFTER Peter had left the church.
Soo... MJ gets kidnapped after Venom and Sandman make a deal to kill Spidey.
Sandman: I'm gonna kill you Spiderman.
Venom: I'm not Spiderman but i wanna help you because I know you have a sick kid.
Sandman: how do you know I've got a kid?
Venom: read it in the script, though I notice we don't actually know what happens to her. She's probably dead by now you know.
Peter askes Harry for help (Yup, Harry still lives only with half his face scarred.)
Peter: Harry, I need your help.
Harry: Piss off I'm brooding, my face is a mess now. no girl will every like me!
Peter: ok, I'll go and save the day by myself, but first i've gotta go pose in front of the American Flag to prove i'm Patriotic.
*five minutes later Harry is still brooding in his Goblin Lair when harry's Butler arrives*
Butler: Oh btw, I knew that your father killed himself on his glider for years... probably should have mentioned that earlier... But I loved him... and I love you... and no I'm not a Homosexual, just bi-curious.
So Peter fights Venom and Giant Sandman (who looks like the staypuff Marshmellow man) and I have to say that Venom really does look great! They got his look down perfectly and unlike all the other bad guys in all three movies he's actually all the way through evil. He wants to be the bad guy and he has great teeth.
My one problem is Rami's supposed need to constantly show Venoms human face when he talks. For crying out Rami, I know you don't like masks because they can't show emotion but Venom has a bloody MOUTH when he's covered up, just have him talk with his venom face for more than 2 seconds! We've seen Brocks face, we wants Venom now! That said Venom fought well and looked great and I really REALLY wished you had saved him for later film so we could see more of him.
Anyway, Peter and Harry Team up and start kicking ass which lead to a pretty dumb line when Peter is on harry's board.
Harry: *whilst he and peter on on his skyboard* Hold on!
Peter: Hold onto what?
Harry:... you've got fricken spider powers you twat! Hold on with your feet!
Peter: Oh yeah... Sorry I forgot.
(New Goblin flies into a bar... Venom swings over it and laughs)
Sandman is of course huge now and menacing and making Godzilla noises and there's all these people crowded round including a terribly british woman reporter whom I've now added to my list of people I want to dunk into acid. But seriously, I've heard of bad parenting but this was some of the worst I've seen!
Child: Mommy mommy look! A giant sand creature is smashing things! Can we get closer?
Mommy: Of course! I'm sure we're not in any danger!
Child: Wicked cool!
At least we didn't have Spiderman being saved by the New York public in this movie... thank God! (Though we have two kids saying cheesy cliched hip words from the 1990's)
The problem was with Venom was that he would fight for a few seconds then disappear whilst they attack Sandman. Where the heck did he go? I like to think he was chomping on Gwen Stacy's brains in revenge which would explain where she went and where he goes at the same time.
The annoying thing though that when Harry and Peter teamed up I got that damn song from lazytown stuck in my head (I'm a student, students watch Lazytown)
Harry: Team work do it together
Peter: Oh! Oh!
Harry: Team work friends forever
Peter: Oh! Oh!
Harry: We're all for one and one fo--ACK!
Venom: Raaaah! I stab you with your own Board!
Harry: Oh the irony!
So Harry dies, Venom (Who after splitting from Eddie turns into a giant monster goo that does NOTHING) is blown up with Eddie because Eddie wanted to keep the power so there's no chance for him to reappear again (Bastards!) and Sandman says he's sorry, gets forgiveness, buggers off.
MJ and Peter get back together and Spiderman once again needs to buy a new mask.
Now I didn't hate this film by a long shot, I enjoyed it immensly but it does prove once again that too many villians can screw things up the pacing and means we can't get to know as much as we want. When I read Empires review I thought they were being overly harsh but now after watching the movie I can see that they had a point.
Non the less I give this movie a 3 and a half out of 5.
It had some great laughs with Stan Lee and Bruce Campbell and J. K. Simmons. (some guys next to us laughed very loudly when they saw Stan Lee) The battles were brilliantly done, very emotional scenes, just let down by having too much crammed in.
If there is gonna be a Spiderman 4 please let's have only one or two villians, 3 is now the official no no.
Maybe we'll see Carnage in the next film, or perhaps lizard. Afterall, the main Symbiote was burnt to a crisp but Conners still had a sample of it.
That's me done true believers. ^_^
*End Spoilers*
Posted by silverbolt2012
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May 5, 2007 10:27 AM
It was great as a movie, but okay in terms of story. Nonetheless, it is entertaining.
I'd give it a 8/10.
Posted by rashiqster
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May 5, 2007 10:35 AM
it was the best movie ever....i give it 10/10....it was awesome...can't wait for SPIDERMAN 4,5,6.
Posted by tmacallday
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May 5, 2007 10:48 AM
First and foremost, this movie is probably my favorite out of the rest and yet I don't think that makes me a moron. It was entertaining and that is all I can really ask for from my favorite superhero of all time. Of course I know that might make me a little biased but the movie did have some cheesy parts. I did roll my eyes more than once in the movie and that's fine. Although many people have and probably will hate this movie simply because there was too much camp and how every occurrence in the movie just "happens to happen" to these characters. I would say to those critics,
"Listen Chuckles, you have paid good money to go see a movie about a guy who "just happened" to be bitten by a genetically-altered spider who became a red-blue leotard wearing superhero. If you don't have the imagination to suspend your beliefs and have no tolerance for a little dumb fun, you should have learned this by now considering this is the 3rd installment."
And I do not need to hear about how this is totally worse than the other movies. Those were campy and full of plot holes too. What was up with Gobbie's suit, Macy Gray, New Yorkers saving Spidey's ass in #1 and #2, Ock's "talking tentacles,"and so many other campy ideas. Also something that always bothered me, Doc Ock's experiment. There is no way in hades someone can make a fusion star with an ounce of tritium. Maybe I am a something of a scientist myself but hey, Its just a movie and I will not think too much into it.
Spider-man 3 had the best intentions of what any sequel should do. Take the best elements of the first film,(the drama, the action, the camp) and add more. Maybe it is a little too much for people to take in because I hear the plot had too much for some people to understand, and yet no character development. Which is it? I thought the plot was easy to understand. It definitely wasn't Dante's Inferno. And as for the character development. The main characters went through pretty much all of the emotions from one end of the spectrum to the other, which I enjoyed. And I did roll my eyes at Harry's amnesia, but I'll buy it. The minor characters I thought were handled just as well with respect to their origins. Sandman was great even with the typical, campy lab-accident origin and his Uncle Ben connection with Peter. Definitely more emotion and story than I have pretty much ever seen of Flint Marko in any iteration of that character. Eddie Brock was spot on and I mean that in the way Grace acted, not his appearance. Just because someone doesn't physically doesn't look like the original character does not mean he can not bring to the movie what Eddie brought the the comic, which was a egotistical jerk. And Venom was what he should have been: a humiliated, vengeful psycho with a hard-on for Pete. And last, there was Gwen. A total deviation from the comic, but I do not think that is entirely bad. Peter in the movies should never have to go through what he did in the comics. While I would enjoy a movie like that, it would be total disrespect to "Goblin's Last Stand" to kill Gwen in this movie or any continuation of the story in these movies. The movies are different. If you want comics go pick up a book. I highly recommend it.
Maybe I like this movie because I knew it was going to be different to what I have seen before. I especially enjoyed Spider-man actually getting respect from the city and him throwing out some cheesy one-liners. Also I had a feeling that Sam would stay true to the responsibility of being a hero unlike other superhero movies. I think people have forgotten how bad Superman Returns was for the character of Superman. By the end of Superman, his character developed into a dead-beat dad. What kind of example does that create when the world's greatest superhero does not take the responsibility of raising his own child, not to mention the only other survivor from Krypton. I just hope in the sequel Superman is sending Lois checks for the child support.
Well enough about Supes. Spider-man 3 was a highly entertaining movie that I will go see again. I would recommend it to anyone who just wants to see a fun and exciting movie. Even with the campy scenes and ludicrous themes, I thought it delivered some freshness yet brought more of everything I loved from the other films. And a little advice for those who did not, you do not have to see it ever again. Just pretend it was all a bad dream and just keep watching the 90's cartoon.
Posted by insertnamehere85
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May 5, 2007 11:02 AM
I loved Spider-Man 3. I saw it twice on opening night. The second time wasn't as good because I was a little groggy and didn't really know what was going on, but the part where Peter and Harry team up still gave me goosebumps. That was the coolest part in the whole movie. I was disappointed that Eddie Brock died, though. Spider-Man cannot beat Venom, period. But after close observation, I have my theories on his method of survival. Major cliffhanger at the very end, that pissed me off because nerds + cliffhangers = ARGH! But overall it was the greatest movie I have ever seen. I loved it when Peter was dancing down the street and trying to impress girls. Now I enter every room like Peter does when he goes into that store to buy the nice suit. When my friend asked me what I'd give it out of ten, I said "Six..." and he was like, "It was that bad?" and then I said, "Point-Five-Billion out of ten." It was funny. I hope Carnage, the Lizard, and maybe Scorpion are in Spider-Man 4. That would be pretty sweet.
Posted by Venom_XIII
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May 5, 2007 11:12 AM
... And Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy is hot.
Posted by Venom_XIII
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May 5, 2007 11:13 AM
First off, I thought Spiderman 2 was the BEST superhero movie ever, and one of the best films ever. I went into SM3 with lower expectations, just hoping for a good film, not a great one. Kind of like any #3, Godfather 3, alien 3, return of the Jedi. I think this film is a good one, except with one big clunk: rushing Venom in and not developing him.
Why on earth Raimi and Co didn't film back-to-back films and realse SM4:Venom next year or at Christmas is beyond me. They took too great a risk with packing this film.
You can tell what parts of the script Alvin Sargent wrote and what Sam and Ivan Raimi wrote. Alvins's is the good stuff!
Peter Parker is an emotional guy with real-life problems. We see his problems becoming more adult as he becomes older. He's not some disneyland character who lives in a mansion saving us from ourselves. He's one is US going through life's sometimes toxic changes. That's what separates Spider-man. If you want pure action, play a video game. Movies are about great stories. Everyone agreees with that. This one hits close to the mark, but missed a HUGE opportunity with Venom as a bad guy.
Spiderman movies will keep coming, and hopefully they'll try to be more like #2.
Posted by THUNDERGOD EXTREME
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May 5, 2007 11:30 AM
I am another person that left Spiderman 3 completely dejected. For a film that had such promise, I mean three bad guys, so three times the action right? Wrong. Far too much of Peters personal struggle to keep his ever inflating ego in check less actually struggling with bad guys. There was no fight scene to top the train-top-tangle with Doc Ock from Spidey 2. As stunning as the visuals were, the crane taking out the skyscraper for instance, I was left wanting more. If there will ever be a Spiderman 4, I will settle for one bad guy, more action/fight sequences.
Posted by Spartan1
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May 5, 2007 11:31 AM
I am another person that left Spiderman 3 completely dejected. For a film that had such promise, I mean three bad guys, so three times the action right? Wrong. Far too much of Peters personal struggle to keep his ever inflating ego in check less actually struggling with bad guys. There was no fight scene to top the train-top-tangle with Doc Ock from Spidey 2. As stunning as the visuals were, the crane taking out the skyscraper for instance, I was left wanting more. If there will ever be a Spiderman 4, I will settle for one bad guy, more action/fight sequences.
Posted by Spartan1
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May 5, 2007 11:34 AM
A THRILL FOR COMIC BOOK JUNKIES, BUT UNEVEN AS A FILM. In certain areas (special effects, villanous meanies, etc) the film exceeded expectations and its predecessors, but overall it failed to improve upon the last one. This Spidey trilogy will go out the way of the original Star Wars Trilogy, where the first and second movies are the most exciting artistic achivements, and the third just closes all the loose ends but leaves you emotionally unfulfilled. Venom was great but his appearance was slighted and too short. The series seems to be tiring.
[SPOILER WARNING - SPOILER WARNING]
The movie also left the door for another sequal, with likely villians in the next movie the Lizard (Doc Conner has a larger role in this film than the last), a return of Venom or, more likely, an introduction of the all-powerful Venom-spawn Carnage (the symbiote sample was left in Doc Conners' Lab), and a return of Sandman who would likely fight side-by-side with spidey and give up his life in the next movie, thereby redeeming himself for killing Uncle Ben. There are also stories left to tell, including Peter's parents involvement in SHIELD, and the death of his Aunt. With the Nick Fury movie coming out next year, could be an opportunity of a crossover similiar to that planned for the Justice League (in 2010) and the Avengers (also 2010-ish) movies.
But don't count on it. A fourth movie may get really tired. If this movie does really, really well, as good or better than 2, the studio will make its best effort for a fourth.
Posted by Jim C
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May 5, 2007 12:14 PM
When do they learn??? Multiple villians ALWAYS take away from a comic movie franchise. All three villains have decades of history behind them with. And each villian is introduced and killed off within a single 2 1/2 hour film??!!?? (Goblin was killed off twice) Generally-speaking a main villian in any of your iconic books will be defeated at the end (aka arrested, humiliated and or somehow thwarted) but in this franchise it seems imperative to kill any anti-arachnid minded person who walks onto the screen. This is fine for say Punisher or Electra, but this is freakin Spider-Man! Villains don't die, or at least not on a regular-basis.
As for the extra-character bits ... I got the impression that Raimi put in scenes simply to ingratiate the actors personal images rather than developing the characters. For example, James was so brooding and conflicted in the first two installments, so let's give him a few scenes to grin as big as possible so that we like him more and don't think of him as a robot. Tobey still has a nerdy factor they "tried" to alleviate by making him hip and cool. (Which did nothing of the sort, perhaps making him metro, but not cool)
And as for Topher, he wants to be a serious actor, to step away from the comedian-actor thing...so let's give a reaaally scary mask and have him use his ..err not so deep and or scary voice-over. Yeah that'll be taken seriously...
Posted by lunarvines
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May 5, 2007 12:19 PM
I didn't like it as much as the others. I hated how they treated Venom. It was nothing like the comics Venom. They should have let Raimi do the film like he wanted (aka no Venom). But making Sandman the killer of uncle Ben was stupid too. That kinda flipped the whole idea of why Peter became Spider-Man. Bryce and Kirsten were hot though.
** / *****
Posted by Rac
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May 5, 2007 12:22 PM
SPIDER-MAN: ADD NEW VILLAINS, RINSE AND REPEAT. With the third, and due to record openings likely not final, installment of Spider-Man you get the idea the team behind 2 of the highest grossing films of all time approached this film with a "If it's not broke, don't fix it" attitude, and it shows.
That's not to say it's not an enjoyable evening at the theater, but you have seen this movie before. In fact, you will get treated to the same character arc twice in one sitting as Peter's friend/enemy Harry goes from trying to kill Peter, to being friends (thanks to the always reliable "short term amnesia") back to trying to kill him and finally joining him in the climactic finale. You'll also be treated to such other Spidey gems as "I don't love you anymore" and "I know I'm the bad guy, but in the end I'm misunderstood" and who could forget "Hey, MJ just got kidnapped, must be the finale".
The only new thing you will see is a montage in the middle of the film of Peter Parker's take on Saturday Night Fever. You smile for a second, but soon you're wishing you could move onto the next battle, because this is where the movie really shines. The action sequences are handled so well that only once, late in the film where an obvious CG Venom has Topher Grace's head awkwardly plopped on it, do you question the reality. The Sandman was spot on to what any fan of the comics would expect, and for what little we get of Venom it's great.
And it's the over-promised and under-used Venom that really hurts. This film could have easily been filled with one villain, trying to cram in 3 was a disservice to them all. And though most will have a hard time getting past seeing Eric from "That 70's Show" as one of the most savage villains in recent time, it's Thomas Hayden Church who delivers a very poignant and believable Sandman. Toby and Kirsten deliver performances on par with their previous efforts, but James Franco's Harry Osbourne drew many unintentional laughs from the audience.
In the end, you will like or dislike parts of this film for the very same reason you liked or disliked the previous two. You still have a visually stunning, predictable film that could stand some more edits, clocking in at 140 minutes, and you can't help but wonder if maybe a new cast and directors vision might do this blockbuster franchise some good. B-
Posted by TyDog
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May 5, 2007 1:54 PM
Most of the movie was great,especially Sandman's creation scene. One MAJOR flaw was the choice of the "Saturday Night Fever" strutting sequence when the movie tries to convey Peter's dark turn. It was very inconsistent with both the mythos and the tone of the rest of the movie. Leave the slapstick silliness in the JJJ scenes; otherwise, let the tone be (semi)serious.
Posted by Marcher
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May 5, 2007 2:00 PM
Action was an A+, story though dragged. How the heck do you limit Venom to 1 scene? Also since when did Harry learn karate and become a Jedi in the same film???? I mean he could have been watching a ton of Japanese films and Star Wars but comon now, I really have to raise the BS flag on that one. The skateboard was bad enough but add everything else and that made that even worse. Plus how many times does he have to nearly die before he finally dies??? The critics were right when they said too many villains. I would have been happy with having a Venom cameo in the end setting it up for another sequel and having Sandman as a main character and having good ole spidey keep the black costume until the end. I was very disappointed in it. C+
Posted by nukebomb181
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May 5, 2007 2:50 PM
Action was an A+, story though dragged. How the heck do you limit Venom to 1 scene? Also since when did Harry learn karate and become a Jedi in the same film???? I mean he could have been watching a ton of Japanese films and Star Wars but comon now, I really have to raise the BS flag on that one. The skateboard was bad enough but add everything else and that made that even worse. Plus how many times does he have to nearly die before he finally dies??? The critics were right when they said too many villains. I would have been happy with having a Venom cameo in the end setting it up for another sequel and having Sandman as a main character and having good ole spidey keep the black costume until the end. I was very disappointed in it. C+
Posted by nukebomb181
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May 5, 2007 2:51 PM
"SPIDER-MAN 3" is an actually great installment; Although it may never be as superb as "SPIDER-MAN 2", but it's definitely somewhat better than "SPIDER-MAN". So there are some jittery plot-points and F.X, but I think it was terrific - a good way to kick off the summer, but for the fourth installment, let's hope nothing terrible happens!!
"SPIDER-MAN 3" --- ***/****
Posted by MetalRock_85
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May 5, 2007 3:06 PM
WARNING: Spoiler.
Great movie, good job every one and wuhu. BUT, Venom wasn't nearly enough IN the movie. I seriusly hope that the reason why Eddie Brocks corps is completly gone after he's killed, is because him and Venom mysteriusly survived.
Though i didn't think the fact that Venom wasn't as maskulin as originaly hurted the sequal that much, i REALY didn't like him referring to himself as "I" instead of "We". Too much of Eddie Brocks face was shown while he was Venom, and the voice of him whiped off all the scaryness the movie makers did achive to create.
Otherwise Venom was a sucess.
Sandman was pready good, i liked him ALOT, but him turning out to be uncle bens actual killer wasn't that good.
Anyway i liked the film. Peter Parker walking down the street as John Travolta in "Saturday Night Fever" was hilarius, and Spidey working together with goblin jr. (as Peter called him) was the best part of the movie. If Venom returns in the 4th movie i will love this film. If he don't then Venom was completly wasted, Spider-Mans worst foe introduced and killed off in what, 20 min.? There was so many possibilities in that charecter just thrown away. Tobey has GOT to be in the 4th movie and the script better be amazing, for me to go use another 10 buks to watch it.
Despite the flaws i've commented i like the film and i'll give it 6 outta 10. because if that's what we have and ever will see to Venom then im dissapointed. But if he do return i'll be thrilled, cause that will make more oppotunity for action scenes with him in the next movie instead of us see how he became what he did.
And if Venom never do return, people who knew nothing about Venom before they saw this movie, will never actually find out he's called Venom, cause that's not menchioned once in the movie.
Posted by iwasneverhere
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May 5, 2007 3:08 PM
I feel as being a spider-man fan as a whole, the movie did deliver. I really enjoyed the multiple plotlines but if there were ones out there that felt that was too much to grasp from this simple movie, go watch the fantastically stupid X-men 3 or its close relatives Elektra or Hulk. What people with no imagination and critics fail to realize is that this is a COMIC BOOK movie...as more sequels get pumped out, the more wild and absurd the plotlines will be.Personally the movie captured most of what i expected. The only changes i could offer to the movie was not to have turned to final battle scene into a television broadcast, topher should have spoken through a synthesizer to have a more menacing voice as Venom, and finally that Kirsten Dunst should never be allowed to be in another Spidey movie as long as she lives.(choose another leading lady). She Sucks!
Posted by lonewolf9181979
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May 5, 2007 4:01 PM
I feel as being a spider-man fan as a whole, the movie did deliver. I really enjoyed the multiple plotlines but if there were ones out there that felt that was too much to grasp from this simple movie, go watch the fantastically stupid X-men 3 or its close relatives Elektra or Hulk. What people with no imagination and critics fail to realize is that this is a COMIC BOOK movie...as more sequels get pumped out, the more wild and absurd the plotlines will be.Personally the movie captured most of what i expected. The only changes i could offer to the movie was not to have turned to final battle scene into a television broadcast, topher should have spoken through a synthesizer to have a more menacing voice as Venom, and finally that Kirsten Dunst should never be allowed to be in another Spidey movie as long as she lives.(choose another leading lady). She Sucks!
Posted by lonewolf9181979
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May 5, 2007 4:05 PM
I agree and i dis agree with some of yall who was not please with the movie but the Fx was Great, toby did cry to much an the boy from that 70 show to samll an skinny fo eddie brock, and not mention eddie was fired by JJ in the 2nd movie, Venom was looked awsome when he spoke i was not pleased tho venom always concider him self as 2 ppl, and he should be back in the 4th movie and they should have use that boy from the 70 show to be the Carnage in the 4th movie well i give it an overall 8 1/2....
Posted by HarryPeter77
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May 5, 2007 4:15 PM
I was disappointed with this sequel. I found it really cheesy and badly executed. Poor character development and messy storyline. The action scenes were great, but that's about it.
Posted by Supermario
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May 5, 2007 4:58 PM
I was disappointed with this sequel. I found it really cheesy and badly executed. Poor character development and messy storyline. The action scenes were great, but that's about it.
Posted by Supermario
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May 5, 2007 5:03 PM
I thought the movie was great I thought with all of the storylines that Raimi was working with he handled them all very well. The only problem I had was the musical score. I thought the composer didn't do as near a good a job as Elfman and it hurt the movie a little. Other than that great movie
Posted by directr33
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May 5, 2007 5:12 PM
I thought the movie was great I thought with all of the storylines that Raimi was working with he handled them all very well. The only problem I had was the musical score. I thought the composer didn't do as near a good a job as Elfman and it hurt the movie a little. Other than that great movie
Posted by directr33
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May 5, 2007 5:22 PM
i think that overall this movie was great! it had the right balance of drama, comedy, and action. im sure that many fans will be pleased with the venom spots in the movie. sam raimi keeps the spidey franchise interesting by putting in twists and turns that true spidey fans probably weren't expecting. those who want a two and a half hour movie with just a bunch of ass kicking and head bashing are going to give this movie bad reviews. however, true fans that want a story are going to love it. i would rate spiderman 3 a B+ to an A-. GO SPIDEY GO!!!!
Posted by henryj
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May 5, 2007 7:25 PM
First off like to say F-You to who ever said this movie blew. Your out of your mind this movie was amazing. Those who said oh we didnt have enough venom well for those who dont know me I'm a big Venom fan and let me say I was happy with how Venom turned out. I was one who wanted the whole story about Venom but now seeing it I think Raimi did a great job with the whole Venom thing. I mean come on it was a good 20 mins of Venom he kicked the shit out of ol spidey and if it was the whole movie it would be the same Venom beating him up and then at the end spidey winning. So what we got was the best of venom. So the story of venom wasnt drug out like in the comics but you have to remember that this is a movie and not a direct port of the comic cause if thats the case I could pick apart evey movie in the series. When movies are done about comics there are going to be some differences so the director can make it his own. We even see that with novels that are converted to the big screen. Come on Jurrasic Park wasnt exact and that movie was tight. People who say Raimi did a bad job on this film is insane for 3 years this man ate,breathed and slept spiderman give him a break so he didnt do exactly what all the fans wanted. But remember he has a higher power that he has to report to, Sony and Marvel. Obiviously they thought this movie was great or they wouldnt of put it out. For all those who hated this movie there are 20 times more who liked it and there already preppin 4 cause its doing so well. Whether Raimi is going to be back that is yet to be seen. But no matter what this movie rocked. Those who thought mary jane really had no reason to be in here is crazy cause she's a big part of the whole story. People also say the cg in here wasnt that great, give me a break the mouth of venom was incredible and Sandman looked amazing. So in closing again F-You to who ever hated this movie go get a life and just because you have none dont be pissed cause the movie wasnt exactly what you wanted and now you want to cry about it in blogs cause you cant do anything about it. All you people thats all you do is cry and whine about movies in your blogs and what does it do, nothing there going to continue to make movies and make money.All your doing is trying to get attention like you were back in grade school. This movie even if you hated it is going to make cash and it already started to and it will continue.
Posted by BUFFDADDYDX
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May 5, 2007 7:55 PM
I would say its a good film but not as good as 2 or 1....but still good.
Yes there were plot holes.....like lets team Sandman and Venom up only because Sandman wants to talk to Spidey and ask for forgiveness....
I did like the unbilled cameo by Willem Dafoe in the nightclub when bad Peter comes there with Gwen...he was sitting right behind them. I was looking for the same from Alfred Molina, but afraid he couldnt make it.
Anyway, all in all not a bad little film...not the greatest, but not bad...now its on to FF2.
Posted by deknaj
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May 5, 2007 9:08 PM
The good:
I loved the fights.
The CG was practically flawless.
Saw a whole new side of Tobey Maguire...gave Peter more character.
Granted: not much Venom. But what we DID see rocked!
The not so good:
Nitpicky things like Venom's voice and saying "I" instead of "We" like in the comics OR cartoons "We are Venom"
Sandman as Uncle Ben's accidental real killer...I get how it's a movie 1 tie-in but come on! Harry turning into Gobby 2 and first attacking, then forgiving Peter was a good tie-in. Was the Sandman thing necessary?
I get why the symbiot's origin was too complicated for the movie, I thought that the previous movies showing Jameson's kid (MJ's ex) as an astranaut was a prelude to the third's showing the man coming down with the symbiot in the shuttle. Instead we get no further on him.
Eddie Brock. I recall in movie one "We've had Eddie on it for weeks, we can't get a shot of him." "We can get Julia Roberts in a thong but we can't get a picture of this wierdo?" So...in 3 Eddie had JUST started working at the Bugle huh?
Taking in what wasn't so good and instead accepting that that was how the movie was made, what was done was done pretty well.
Fights: WOW. Dialogue: good. Emotion:...wow...
Comedy: not my fav part of the movie.
Bruce Campbell. 1) "I named him." 2) "I defeated him." 3) "I gave him a place to have a fight with MJ and offered a romantic dinner setting for a proposal. Not to mention the usual comic relief."? I'm curious how he thinks the role was important. Oh, and Spider-man HAS been defeated before, Bruce. Quite a few times, but he managed to keep getting back up (even the times he died).
Posted by RobertBarnett
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May 5, 2007 9:28 PM
One more bad:
Gwen Stacy...the only thing correct with her was her physical appearance. Perhaps a science person, definitely NOT a Spider-man fan ever.
So there's more story to tell in 4, 5, and 6. Carnage, Clones, maybe Morbius. Norman returning, Captain Stacy dieing from falling debree in a Spidey vs returned Doc Ock battle.
I wasn't that big a fan of 1. I loved the fights in 2, although Spidey must have been holding back quite a bit for all those direct face punches against Ock's face to not do any real damage.
Oh, and who DOESN'T know Spidey's identity now that his face has been unmasked so many times? It figures, they unmasked him in the comics anyway.(grr)
Overall I loved Spider-man 3. It wasn't perfect, will it ever be? Read the critism on Superherohype's spider-man message boards talking about the comics. The movie is a comic book adaptation and the comics are often getting major critism (like the Morlon story semi-recently, which I was okay with until Morlon came back from being turned to powder fair and square to kill Spidey, then the explanation for Spidey's return...okay I'm gonna stop talking about it now grr...)
Posted by RobertBarnett
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May 5, 2007 9:48 PM
This is my first time typing on any kind of blog and
i doubt that anyone will really read it but i just saw Spiderman 3 and i thought i would get my thoughts out there. I really like the other 2 movies . The second is still my favorite all because they made Doc Oc look completely badass. I agree with what alot of people are saying. The movie was really good but there was just alot crammed in. To be honest I liked this one alot but there are just a few things that kinda messed it up. The biggest thing to me and my fiends were saying is WHY WAS VENOM'S ROLE SO SMALL. To me venom is one of the coolest bad guys that spiderman has, and I understand its a movie but come on, COME ON. A rock just falls out the sky and boom, there's the goo that ends up being venom. WE were thinking it would have been cool if Eddie Brock had been in the other 2 and Peter always got the job done better, or something like that i'm no writer. Despite anything bad i said though, i dont see why people are saying it was so bad. Me being a nerd, i sat in my seat mesmerized when sandman first pops out the sand. But the one thing that i can see people being disappointed about was seeing venom die. I sat in my seat like no way that just happened. Everyone in the theater
looked at the person next to them and said "wtf".
CAN'T KILL VENOM MAN. SHAME ON you spiderman 3
writer guys. But other than the coolest spiderman bad guy dieing this movie is worth seeing. GOOD JOB
to any one who had anything to do with it. Even
the guy that just got coffee.
Posted by Leethal87
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May 5, 2007 10:03 PM
THINGS THAT WERE WRONG WITH THIS MOVIE!!! 1) the alien coming from an asteroid that aparently no one notices, why would u do this when u set up the story perfectly in #2 with JJ's son. 2) the symbiot attaching itself to peters suit instead of peter himself, what happens when he takes the suit off? is he just good again, stupid! 3) when gwen is dangling from the building, her father and boyfriend (brock) don't seem to care that she might die, they are just like hum, whats she doing up there? 4) the whole sandman story. no one explained the whole big machine that turned him into sandman, why would anyone want to deconstruct the molecules of sand? 5) in the first movie, JJ mentions Brock, but in this movie aparently he was just hired, wheres the continuity? 6) Sandman wasnt even hardly in the movie, nor was JJ, which is sad. 7) when peter get the symbiot and does his little dance stuff. Peter is supposed to be evil, not emo. 8) spider man doesnt catch any normal bad guys in this movie.........they could have at least had him turn evil and almost kill a bad guy or something before the police came.
This is how it should have went. ....start the movie with JJ's son in space studying an astroid.....he crashes on the way back and spidy saves him, then they have a "lets thank SPidey day or whatever, meanwhile....harry still runs oscorp. at the beginning of the movie, he tries to get peter by being the goblin, this doesnt work so well, so he hires a low-level, power hungry, criminal to do an experiement on (marko) to help him get peter back. peter gets the symbiot on himself ( not his suit) and turns evil. him and brock throughout the movie should be rivals like they are, but brock should be going after MJ. Sandman and harry try to fight the new spidey but are unsucessful. sandman becomes too powerful for harry to control. spidy realizes the suit is evil and takes it off and it goes onto brock but brock just leaps off. harry and spidey team up to finally beat sandman, and at the end of the movie, have peter and MJ in peters apartment, but back in the distand on the top of a building, have brock(venom) staring at them through peters window. Then for a finale, have brock shoot a web and swing towards the camera. That way u get to see venom but you don;'t waste eitehr the sandman character or the venom character which i thought they did with this movie. This movie had too much stuff unexplained and too much new stuff...........i'm disapointed.
Posted by mattbush
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May 5, 2007 10:10 PM
To: Sam Raimi & Cast/Crew of Spider-man
Sam your still the man in my book.
Spider-Man 3 was a great film, 8/10. It was creative, entertaining and most important fun to watch. I had to see it a few more times to come to a final agreement.
Yes, the film was a little cramped, some characters lacking story a bit, but who cares. Maybe the film had to be cut for the big screen's time length. I just hope that deleted footage will show up added into a Special Edition DVD. They just did it with Spider-Man 2.1 and it was great.
Everyone did their best. Move on to the next Spider-Man movie and just pick up what you have learned from the last film and make the next one better.
It has been really interesting on how everyone has pulled off such an amazing icon and brining it to the big screen. I one-hundred percent agree that it is no easy task.
So I hope the rumors come true that Spider-Man producers will make 3 more Spider-Man movies after this one. Sam your not done yet. You left Spider-Man 3 open to another. There is still plenty of story to tell. Don't leave Spidey hanging.
For the producers I say to you that you should defiantly keep Sam Raimi and the original cast on board for the next films. I believe moving on without them will cause many disappointments.
To Sam Raimi & Cast/Crew of Spider-Man
Thanks for the entertainment
Mr. Spinoso
Posted by Mr. Spinoso
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May 5, 2007 10:48 PM
?!?
I'm seeing a lot of positive feelings about Sam Raimi and the team from these first three movies. The first one was great, but how is everyone missing all the crap that's come to be part & parcel to these flicks?? Why the insulting patriotism w/ Spidey slinging in front of a FLAG EVERY MOVIE?!! And the doubly insulting CROWD REACTIONS, like the announcer stating the obvious about how horrible Spidey getting pounced by Sandman??
Sam Raimi continues to insist on putting items that ruin the movie, like jokes and reactions in the middle of good fights (Jameson w/ the girl w/ camera?? this kills good momentum!!) Lastly, WHY DOES SPIDEY HAVE TO HAVE HIS FACE MASK RIPPED IN EVERY FINAL BATTLE?? IT'S CHEESY AND UNPROFESSIONAL!!
The only thing good about the movie is that it's Spidey, Maguire is a poor excuse for an adult Spiderman and we all know it! Stop calling for him to stay on board. You all know it hurt when he had that GOTH HAIR and TRIED TO ACT TOUGH w/ the BLACK COSTUME!!
I love spidey, but this movie had too many punches to the gut to really enjoy - CUT THE FLAG RIDICULOUSNESS!!
Posted by Zaovisier
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May 5, 2007 11:35 PM
I just saw the movie today and I think it was good though there had to be more time because the three different villains'stories going on at the same time it was kind of too fast. the movie needed some air there was sandman and venus on one hand and on the other hand mj's dissatisfaction and harry's revenge
still there was similarity between the stories which I liked.
Posted by lindaconchita
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May 5, 2007 11:59 PM
Incredible. Compelling. Phenomenol. I loved Spider-Man 3. It totally eclipses the first film, and I'd even say it has THIS MUCH of an edge over Spider-Man 2.
I'm reading comments/amateur reviews/opinions all over the place; people whining that "Spiderman cries too much" and especially the fact that "THERE'S NOT ENOUGH VENOM!!!" Get over yourselves, you toddlers. Wouldn't YOU cry if you found out that the man who killed your Uncle was still alive and on the loose? Wouldn't you cry if you found out that the girl you've loved since you were 6 doesn't love you anymore? Grow the #!*& up!
And this whole Venom issue. Yes, it would've been nice to see more of him. We see enough of Eddie Brock, but not as much of the creature Venom. In my opinion, I think it would've been a nice touch if they had a 1-on-1 fight somewhere in the middle of the film where Venom won. Sort of saying "I win this one, what else ya got, Spiderman?" And then have the events of the ending take place. But for me, the screen time of a movie bad guy isn't something that I take personally, like much of you apparently have. With the time he had, I loved Venom. And who knows? Maybe he'll be more in the spotlight in Spider-Man 4. It's only a movie, people.
And you die-hard comic book fans....my God. Passion and love for a certain medium is one thing, but to condemn and berate the filmmakers for not sticking to the books about EVERY LITTLE F*CKING THING?? You haters and "critics" need to get it through your thick skulls that this is a BUSINESS, and only ENTERTAINMENT. In the end, the studios, cast and crew all want to make a film that's satisfying, entertaining, passionate and successful. Their job is to the General Audience who plop down their $10, grab some snacks and sit down for 2 hours to enjoy a good movie. It isn't to please a minority of fans who take it personal when a symbiotic life-force falls to earth, instead of being brought back by an astronaut. Come join us in the real world, OK?
I'm not sorry for the long rant, I've just never understood these die-hard fans who live by the "code of the comics". I like comics too, but I don't turn my nose to an adaptation of it if it doesn't "follow the rules".
Back to MY OWN review, I loved it. Great story-telling that had a well-maintained balance between fighting for the people you love, and fighting for the city you call home. Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, Jamese Franco, Topher Grace, and Thomas Haden Church really brought their A-Game, and Sam Raimi once again delivered. This very well may be the best film this summer, but no one can know that for sure. All I know is that if this was the end of the Spider-Man films, then I'd be satisfied. I know that it's not though, and I only hope that the same cast and crew will be back.
Well done, cast and crew. Very well done.
Grading:
A
9/10
4.5 stars
Posted by Ruttle85
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May 6, 2007 12:33 AM
I was really looking forward to seeing this film. But after reading so many bad things about it, I think I'll just wait and download it for free when it surfaces.
I'd like to thank everyone for the warning and helping me save moola.
Posted by sinaesthesia
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May 6, 2007 12:59 AM
Ive been a fan of Spiderman comics/and cartoons since I was a kid, and these movies are just fascinating to watch now that the technology is available to bring the stories to life. I have to say Sam Raimi has done it again by bringing Spiderman to a whole new bigger and better level than before, and artistically all 3 movies gain intricate sub plots which tie together for the 3rd film,and of course for those who have watched the film know that the end leaves you knowing that it is open for more. The story is very intricate and was well written.I believe that the story of Venom, and the suit were done way better than any of the comics and cartoon, and that the story resolve of Sandman was a good twist, and that Harry Osbournes resolve at the end of the story was Amazing.The twists in this movie really made me excited, and if you can simply enjoy a film for what it is and how this film creates a Legacy upon the spiderman stories then you will love it as much and more than the first 2 films.I can't wait for the 4th movie(as long as its original cast and director
Posted by spydey120
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May 6, 2007 1:27 AM
I loved the movie, I think it was the best one out of all the three. I am new here and this is my first comment, I loved every second of the movie. I loved how cheesy Peter was when influenced by the symbiote. I loved the Sandman, in the comics I thought Sandman wasn't that cool, but the movie made me see what he could do and how cool he is. I also loved Harry, it was fun to see him turn bad, and he is much cooler than the first Green Goblin. I am a big Venom fan and I was happy to see Eddie act like he did in the comics( It was classic comic book Eddie Brock). I loved how he looked in the movie. The one dissapointment is that Venom could of used a bit more screen time, but in the few seconds Venom was on, he was the coolest thing I had ever seen.When I first heard there was going to be a third Spider Man movie about a year ago, was excited. A friend told me about the Spider Man 3 Spoilers in the Superhero Hype Boards, but I decided to stay away from them because I was on that website all the time for Spider man 2, and the movie was totally spoiled. Now that I saw the movie I went to the Spider man 3 spoilers in the Super Hero Hype Boards, and all of the people there hated the movie. It makes me so mad that they expect the the movie to be great when they hang out in a spoilers thread, They should blame theirselves for spoiling the movie. I stayed away from the spoilers thread, and when I watched the movie it was the best movie ever. I give it a 9 out of 10.
Posted by Spider-Ham
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May 6, 2007 1:34 AM
I have to add.
Spiderman (Peter Parker) is American, always will be a treasured story in American comicbooks(folklore of the modern day).
The American Flag is a very good thing to have in the movie unlike Zaovisier posted above in his "critique". The American flag is one of my favorite subtle things in the films which authenticates the movie as American! If you dont like the American flag, then why do you even bother liking Spiderman?.........Spiderman 3 ROCKS
Posted by spydey120
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May 6, 2007 1:48 AM
Well Ive seen the movie, and it was pretty good since Spiderman had to go against the Hob-goblin, Venom, and Sandman. I think it was better then the first two parts of Spiderman. But what really sucks was he did not have his Spidey-senses like he had in the first part, cause he gets beat up pretty bad without that. But overall it was good.
Posted by Dee
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May 6, 2007 2:04 AM
Spider-Man 3, in my opinion, was perfect. Every aspect of the story, direction, cinematography and special effects were handled perfectly. The big picture and the small details of this movie couldn’t and shouldn’t have been handled in any other fashion. Considering all past trilogies of late and comic book adaptations, no one has done as good a job as EVERYONE involved with this franchise. As a stand alone, S-M3 was just as good if not better than the first two films and I can’t remember the last time that even came close to happening (Aliens, T2, Godfather Part II). Here’s why… Think about how rushed, yet dragged-out everything was in Lord of the Rings: Return of the King. Once you’re done with that, think about how the Blade franchise regressed and settled into mediocrity. The Matrix trilogy progressed well and ended as only it could have, but I really enjoyed Spidey 3 and what it pulled off. How do you fit three pivotal villains, a high school sweetheart love story, revenge, death, change, ignorance, education, action, good acting and a full circle story wrap-up in two hours and twenty minutes and still find time to give your buddy a comedic cameo as a French restaurant host? They covered the challenges of choice, friendship, mistakes, commitment, change, loss, basic good and evil, and ended on a realistic note of logic, forgiveness and maturity. New Goblin was scarce, but made sense for several reasons. Sandman was perfect and Venom couldn’t have been in the film anymore than he was without changing the story drastically and making it his film (Jack Nicholson’s Joker anyone?). Audiences have gotten smarter, pickier and more opinionated. Average and just plain bad films don't make much money anymore, let alone set all-time records around the world. Regardelss of anyone's opinion, good or bad, something has everyone going to see this movie and I hope the studios, writers, director, producers and actors take note. I hope that if they do continue and make 4,5 and 6, as it has been rumored, that they only do it with this team as it stands right now and only do so if it gets progressively better as it has so far… I don’t think it’s possible.
Posted by meanstreak
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May 6, 2007 7:05 AM
As soon as the movie started it felt different from the other two. Its like the magic was gone. I'd swear that Sam didn't direct this one. I've seen it twice and the first time I absolutely hated it. After the second time it was a lot better. Probably because my expectations weren't as high anymore. The story was rushed and I would preferred to see more of Sandman and possibly save Venom (not Eddie Brock) for another movie. Too many cheesy scenes and three new characters (Captain Stacy,Gwen,Eddie)being undeveloped make this movie seem like a forced down your throat mess. The general audience will eat it up and fans will either dismiss it or accept the flaws and move on. I think that we shouldn't be blame Sam for this. I heard that it was never his idea to put Venom in this movie. Avi Arad told him how much the fans wanted it and to some degree coherced him into doing so. I give it a 7.5 and I hope that it doesn't kill the franchise because I would love to see the Lizard make his inevitable appearance, even if the original cast doesn't return.
Posted by rossbwpp
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May 6, 2007 8:18 AM
What can i say about spiderman 3.... IT sucked!!!!!! worse movie i have ever seen. I put this movie right below batman forever and batman and robin. Venom was so shitty it made me sick. They never reffered him to venom. when he talk he woudl refer himsef to I, I. when any true comic book fan knows that venom always talks in a 3rd peron. WE are VENOM!!!! OHhh and what the hell was up with his voice???? they barley changed it.
OK lets get to peter. They way they had him acting with the venom suit was retarded. In the comics parker was a straight bad ass not some failry stutten down the street. Maryjane looked like a skinny crack head.. im sorry but the real mary jane had some curves on her.
The only high lights of the movie was the action scenes Sandman, and J, Johna jameison. yeh thats right old jj he was very funny.
Just one more thing i would like to add is a little comment to Sam Rammi. Dont do another spidey film again cause u ruined it. Really you did, how can you spider man 3???? i ask
Posted by B
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May 6, 2007 8:37 AM
What can i say about spiderman 3.... IT sucked!!!!!! worse movie i have ever seen. I put this movie right below batman forever and batman and robin. Venom was so shitty it made me sick. They never reffered him to venom. when he talk he woudl refer himsef to I, I. when any true comic book fan knows that venom always talks in a 3rd peron. WE are VENOM!!!! OHhh and what the hell was up with his voice???? they barley changed it.
OK lets get to peter. They way they had him acting with the venom suit was retarded. In the comics parker was a straight bad ass not some failry stutten down the street. Maryjane looked like a skinny crack head.. im sorry but the real mary jane had some curves on her.
The only high lights of the movie was the action scenes Sandman, and J, Johna jameison. yeh thats right old jj he was very funny.
Just one more thing i would like to add is a little comment to Sam Rammi. Dont do another spidey film again cause u ruined it. Really you did, how can you spider man 3???? i ask
Posted by B
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May 6, 2007 8:38 AM
What can i say about spiderman 3.... IT sucked!!!!!! worse movie i have ever seen. I put this movie right below batman forever and batman and robin. Venom was so shitty it made me sick. They never reffered him to venom. when he talk he woudl refer himsef to I, I. when any true comic book fan knows that venom always talks in a 3rd peron. WE are VENOM!!!! OHhh and what the hell was up with his voice???? they barley changed it.
OK lets get to peter. They way they had him acting with the venom suit was retarded. In the comics parker was a straight bad ass not some failry stutten down the street. Maryjane looked like a skinny crack head.. im sorry but the real mary jane had some curves on her.
The only high lights of the movie was the action scenes Sandman, and J, Johna jameison. yeh thats right old jj he was very funny.
Just one more thing i would like to add is a little comment to Sam Rammi. Dont do another spidey film again cause u ruined it. Really you did, how can you spider man 3???? i ask
Posted by B
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May 6, 2007 8:40 AM
The movie was amazing (no pun). Sam did have alot to do in this movie. Hell, if it wasn't for everyone wanting venom so bad he prob would've waiting before showing him. There were some moments that I was like "WTF?" On the plus side, J.K. Simmons was absolutely hilarious. Sandman's creation was cool to see and Brock's transformation into Venom is a must see.
Posted by DreXodus
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May 6, 2007 9:24 AM
I liked it (*** out of ****). However, it felt like it was two movies crammed into one. The characters were great, the various plots contained within were good, but there was just too much going on. Venom needed more screen time, while crazy, black-suited Peter Parker needed much less screen time.
Perhaps they should've had the Hob Goblin and Sandman in this movie, and then have Venom team up with Sandman in the next movie. Venom was just too rushed. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back in the next film.
I really loved the story between Mary Jane and Peter Parker, the Hob Goblin/Harry plot, and the Sandman plot. I thought all three of those stories were really well executed. But that should've been the film right there. Venom, while he was cool, just wasn't necessary in this film.
Posted by MovieLegacy.com
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May 6, 2007 9:27 AM
This is now my all time favorite movie, I saw no flaws because I felt the action, plot, and characters all felt right at the right times. I've noticed all over the internet that most people didn't like this, what is wrong with them? It's like when Matrix Reloaded came out, another movie that I love, but this surpasses it. Spider-Man 3 deserves way more credit than this. How can you not like it? The fight scenes are excellent, the acting was great, there's some comedy, the talking scenes were not boring or too long, and there's morals to it. It's perfect. I'm trying to make it as a filmmaker and could only dream to make a movie half this good. I think what happend is that these people just wanted to keep the suspense they had before seeing this, and now that its over they don't feel that excitement anymore. However, to me, this movie did everything I was hoping for plus so much more.
Posted by ddrock
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May 6, 2007 11:54 AM
Spider-Man 3 was better than Ghost Rider (which is not saying much), but certainly not a good way to top off the trilogy. Sam Raimi and Alvin Sargent made some Lucasian errors in directing and writing, paying too much attention to special effects and not really focusing on the human side of the movie. Venom and the Sandman looked cool and the "New" Goblin was a step up from his hideous Power Ranger father. However, there were too many painful instances for me to say that I'd watch this movie again.
For example, when will comic-book movie directors and writers stop insulting the audience's collective intelligence? Do we need an incredibly irritating news reporter providing an inept play-by-play of the final battle? I was hoping an errant cinder block would crush her skull. Also, did they think we wouldn't question Harry's butler's "convenient" admission? If he loved the Osborns so much, you would think he'd not let poor Harry wallow in his hatred for a man who didn't kill his father!
Finally, I'm glad Peter forgave the Sandman for killing his uncle, but shouldn't he had at least asked Marko to not continue his criminal ways? Plus, Marko now knows Spider-Man's secret identity! Since when is that not a problem?! Was Peter so shocked that a supervillain survived one of his movies that he forgot to apprehend him?
I could go on and on about what I didn't like about the movie, and it appears I am not alone. Instead, however, maybe we should take a more proactive approach and begin telling these big budget movie directors and writers that we expect more than flashes in the pan for our hard-earned money. They need us to fill the theaters, so we do have some influence. Tell them we expect some substance and (pray I say it?) good acting to go along with the CGI and great costumes. Comic book movies can be good movies, period; they just need to created with respect for the material and, moreover, respect for the audience.
Posted by flashox
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May 6, 2007 1:45 PM
movie gets a 1 out of 5 stars.i still like it because im a huge comic book movie fan.movie was to choppy.venom was horrible.they should of never put him in movie it was a wastte of one of spideys best villians.it should have been lizard and harry osborn.you got dr conners in first 2 films and in 3.in 3 what was he in there for.then peter acting dark struting threw city was a joke.i also think its time for whole new cast im sick of seeing same actors.im getting tired of seeing those actors.also what happen to spidey sense?time for a update on suit also.
Posted by JMMJR81
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May 6, 2007 3:39 PM
movie gets a 1 out of 5 stars.i still like it because im a huge comic book movie fan.movie was to choppy.venom was horrible.they should of never put him in movie it was a wastte of one of spideys best villians.it should have been lizard and harry osborn.you got dr conners in first 2 films and in 3.in 3 what was he in there for.then peter acting dark struting threw city was a joke.i also think its time for whole new cast im sick of seeing same actors.im getting tired of seeing those actors.also what happen to spidey sense?time for a update on suit also.
Posted by JMMJR81
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May 6, 2007 3:39 PM
The first time I saw Spidey 3, I left the theater thinking it was without a doubt the most exiting, and most beautiful piece of cinema I had ever seen!... Still, about the movie it self, I really didn’t know what to think. The day after, I saw it for the 2'nd time, and I enjoyed it even more!... The 3'rd time around (seeing it with my big-brother and his girl-friend), I totally fell in love with it!
Stuff like how they chose to take on the story of the symbiote, was different then I thought it would be! The camp that came out of it, seemed a bit over the top. But I was down on my knees laughing, when Peter walked down the street feeling so freaken geeky-cocky! It just fits in a really weird way! Maguire plays the role of dark Peter with such style that it lifts the film up to a higher level! When Peter was evil, he was really evil! Like the re-match between him and Harry, where he goes on about how Norman despised Harry! It was so freaken cool! "Look at little Goblin Junior.... You gonna cry!?". Loved the way Tobey delievered that line!!! You rock dude!
Speaking of Harry I need to put in a few words for him as well! Franco did an amazing job in "3"! The connection between him and Peter, developed all the way back from movie 1, was the strongest in the whole picture (but that's pretty understandable!) Harry was badass as "Goblin-Junior"!
SPIDER-MAN 3 was a solid flick, and I enjoyed it even more for every single time seeing it! I truely love it now! Amazing how Raimi managed to put all of that stuff into the 3'rd movie, without destroying it! It does feel a bit crammed in places, and the whole Venom coming to team up with Marko seemed a bit forced.
Never the less, this movie is jam-packed! It delievers everything that the previous two films did, and more! (damn, a lot more!) It differed a whole lot from the previous two as well! I thought this one would be the dark chapter, but it ended up beeing the absolute funniest! At first I didn't really know how to feel about that, but now, after three viewings I've excepted it, and I love how the film turned out! It's at the same time the most "hard-core" of the three. It's the most exiting, and most intense! The acting was very good! And it is definitly the most emotional rivveting of them all! The scene where MJ is forced to brake up with Peter is pretty heartbreaking, mostly because of the way Tobey plays Peter in that scene! Those tears were real, and you feel so bad for him! He totally breaks down, feeling the love of his life walking away from him; and it doesn’t make sense to him! By the way, thank you Raimi, for giving Flint Marko what he never had; a personality! Everything comes together B-E-A-utifully in the end, and I did indeed shed a tear during the final part when Harry bites the dust! Very VERY emotional! The whole final 25 minutes of the movie took my breath away!
"3" IS my favorite, now! After three viewings, I can honnestly say that it's my favorite! The third time around I just took it all in, and it was beautiful!
Sam Raimi, you deserve the biggest respect in the world! Not just because of a successful Spidey 3, but because you are the one and only director ever to deliever three successful superhero flicks, in a row! That has never happened before!
Ps: Bruce Campbell's cameo was so exstremely funny, and the absolute best of his three apearences!
Posted by Naite22
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May 6, 2007 4:46 PM
It would be a huge mistake to make another Spider-Man film. They should just leave it as a trilogy. All three of these movies are amazing and have gotten better each time, but if they made a forth one it would most likely have changes such as absence of characters or worse have different actors play as the same people, as well as other numerous things. That would totally ruin the spider-man franchise.
Posted by ddrock
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May 6, 2007 4:59 PM
I thought it was WAY too long. Raimi should have edited it by about 20-25 minutes. And the story dragged in the first 45 minutes. I expect my comic book movies to have 'action'. *Yawn* We didn't really get any 'action' until the fight between Peter and Harry in the skies over Manhattan. (Part of my dissatisfaction may have been the fact that I had to sit thru 25 minutes - yes, 25 minutes! - of commercials and previews, some of which were repeated twice, before the actual movie began!)
There was TOO MUCH story. It should have either been just the Sandman villain without Venom or vice versa. Frankly, I've never liked Venom so I would have preferred to have just had the Sandman. And Thomas Haden Church is such a good actor! They really didn't give him an opportunity to show it off. The storyline of him being responsible for Uncle Ben's death was well-written, though. Of course, that's taking liberties with the character from the comic books because he was NOT responsible for Uncle Ben's death in them.
I always predicted that Harry would 'give his life' for Peter Parker/Spider-Man. But I don't like the way it happened. It could have been done so much better.
Mary Jane is always in peril. Spider-Man 1 - Green Goblin abducts her and throws her off of the Brooklyn Bridge. Spider-Man 2 - Doctor Octopus abducts her and ties her up at his waterfront lab. Spider-Man 3 - Venom and Sandman abduct her and place her in a web over the streets of Manhattan. Each time, she's used as 'bait' to lure Spider-Man out into the open. I wouldn't blame Kirsten Dunst one bit if she didn't want to do another Spider-Man movie...even though she's laughing all the way to the bank.
Evil Peter Parker...when he slapped Mary Jane at the nightclub, a collective 'gasp' went up thru the audience where we saw the movie. There was too much 'mugging' to the camera by Tobey in this movie when he's in his 'evil' persona. Frankly, it's just another aspect of the Venom character/symbiote that I don't care for.
I would have preferred seeing the Sandman character developed more with the tragedy of his daughter's illness making him the way he is. I did like the 'origin' aspect of the character, though. I did not like the 'origin' aspect of Venom....meteor lands in Central Park with some kind of 'alien' presence on it and it latches on to Peter's motorcycle and then follows him home. Bleh.
Overall...on a scale of 1-10...I give Spider-Man 3....a 6. Or if you're using the star system: out of 5 stars I'd give it 3.
If they decide to make any more Spider-Man movies...and frankly I hope they don't!...then let someone else direct it...Raimi has lost his touch....and his writing didn't help, either. Sorry, Sam. You're past your prime with Spider-Man.
Please don't ruin this franchise the way the Batman and Superman franchises were ruined!
Posted by Fountainhead
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May 6, 2007 5:33 PM
I still say that Bruce Campbell is actually playing The Chameleon in each of his Spider-Man movie roles!
Posted by Fountainhead
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May 6, 2007 5:35 PM
I thought that Spiderman 3 was the best of the series so far. There were [like in all movies] a few parts that may need some editing (like the parts where spidey turns emo and dances around the city like a fag). But with everything said and done, i think that the incredibly well directed fighting scenes and amazing story plot definitely overwhelmed a few over-extended dance and musical parts that were almost hard to watch. I think that all the critics and movie goers that are giving this movie bad reviews are focusing on a few boring parts just because it was such an antisipated movie.
Sam Raimi tried to make an enjoyable movie that blends the hero life of Spidey, Sandman, and Venom, the romantic life of Peter Parker and Mary Jane, the lost friendship of Peter and Harry, and the struggle of the Web-slinger and himself. That is exactly what Sam Raimi did.
Any comments? email me at: meleemaster_777@yahoo.com
Spiderman 3= A+
Posted by ironman
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May 6, 2007 5:41 PM
Sam Raimi did what both Green Goblins, Doc. Oc, the Sandman and Venom couldn't do ... he single handedly killed Spider-Man
Posted by Wade_Wilson
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May 6, 2007 6:13 PM
Sam Raimi did what both Green Goblins, Doc. Oc, the Sandman and Venom couldn't do ... he single handedly killed Spider-Man
Posted by Wade_Wilson
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May 6, 2007 6:17 PM
I've been reading other people's comments for about fifteen minutes now, and I can't take any more. Nearly all of you are analyzing this flick WAY TOO MUCH. Repeat after me: "IT...IS...A...COMIC...BOOK...MOVIE." You people keep expecting these humongous, wonderful epic films, and you wait and wait for them to be released, and then you come back to your computer blogs as soon as you've seen it and complain about how bad you thought it was. I hear the same moans and groans every single year from all of you, and you still don't get it. Let me explain it as simple as I can. Superhero movies are fun. They're made to be entertaining. When you go see one, let go of yourself for a couple hours. Don't criticize, don't make mental notes for every single scene, and don't send silly messages to your friends with your phones during the movie. Get into the movie, have FUN with it, and enjoy the moment. As terrible and upside down as the real world is today, it's great to be able to go to movies and forget about everything for a couple hours. I feel sorry for all of you that lack the ability to open your eyes and ears, shut your mouths, turn off your phones and just enjoy something. What do you expect Fantastic Four 2 will be like? How about Pirates 3? If you keep going to these movies expecting oscar-winning content, you're going to stay disappointed. Hollywood puts out a ton of garbage every year like Hostel, the Hills Have Eyes, United 93, Grindhouse, etc.... When something fun like Spider-Man 3, or Revenge of the Sith comes along that doesn't rely on gross-out toilet humor, gore and extreme violence, sex, profanity, nudity, or drug use, it STILL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH for you people. Why not? What was really so bad about Spider-Man 3? Do you think Transformers will be a fun movie? I do. Know why? Because I understand that it's made for people like me, who have the imagination to process it. Remember how fun it was as a kid to collect all those comics and action figures? Well, now I'm thiry years old, and today's special effects are able to bring all that stuff I grew up with to the big screen, and I get to collect the DVD's, and MY kids get to collect the toys and comics now. They loved the movie and so did my wife and I, BECAUSE IT WAS FUN! All of you need to stop being so serious about everything. If you didn't enjoy Spider-Man 3, or you posted a blog full of crap pointing out every little plot detail or character flaw, your brain is broken...nuff' said!
Posted by CurtIsRight
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May 6, 2007 6:25 PM
I've been reading other people's comments for about fifteen minutes now, and I can't take any more. Nearly all of you are analyzing this flick WAY TOO MUCH. Repeat after me: "IT...IS...A...COMIC...BOOK...MOVIE." You people keep expecting these humongous, wonderful epic films, and you wait and wait for them to be released, and then you come back to your computer blogs as soon as you've seen it and complain about how bad you thought it was. I hear the same moans and groans every single year from all of you, and you still don't get it. Let me explain it as simple as I can. Superhero movies are fun. They're made to be entertaining. When you go see one, let go of yourself for a couple hours. Don't criticize, don't make mental notes for every single scene, and don't send silly messages to your friends with your phones during the movie. Get into the movie, have FUN with it, and enjoy the moment. As terrible and upside down as the real world is today, it's great to be able to go to movies and forget about everything for a couple hours. I feel sorry for all of you that lack the ability to open your eyes and ears, shut your mouths, turn off your phones and just enjoy something. What do you expect Fantastic Four 2 will be like? How about Pirates 3? If you keep going to these movies expecting oscar-winning content, you're going to stay disappointed. Hollywood puts out a ton of garbage every year like Hostel, the Hills Have Eyes, United 93, Grindhouse, etc.... When something fun like Spider-Man 3, or Revenge of the Sith comes along that doesn't rely on gross-out toilet humor, gore and extreme violence, sex, profanity, nudity, or drug use, it STILL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH for you people. Why not? What was really so bad about Spider-Man 3? Do you think Transformers will be a fun movie? I do. Know why? Because I understand that it's made for people like me, who have the imagination to process it. Remember how fun it was as a kid to collect all those comics and action figures? Well, now I'm thiry years old, and today's special effects are able to bring all that stuff I grew up with to the big screen, and I get to collect the DVD's, and MY kids get to collect the toys and comics now. They loved the movie and so did my wife and I, BECAUSE IT WAS FUN! All of you need to stop being so serious about everything. If you didn't enjoy Spider-Man 3, or you posted a blog full of crap pointing out every little plot detail or character flaw, your brain is broken...nuff' said!
Posted by CurtIsRight
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May 6, 2007 6:30 PM
The movie was alright i mean it could have been better. But some points for all of you doubting a fourth because of cramming it all in. What was the point of Dr.Conners without the tought of the lizard? Peter wasent paying atteting when he said he stunts aggression so why whould that matter? The couldnt have left venom out because the fourth would have been impossible to make because why would anyone have seen the 3rd just harry vs peter? I doubt it. So there will be a fourth i just hope theres still tobey.
Posted by SpidermanFanForever
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May 6, 2007 6:30 PM
im a big spidey fan. loved the first two movies. im a big sam raimi fan and i loved what he has done with the other two films. i understand that with comic movies you want elements from the comic as well as new fresh idea to seperate the movie from the comic, i get that and i like it.
having said that i was hugely let down by this movie. even though they put venom in it, my favorite spidey villian, they never should have done it without a proper story and screen time. he as a nussuance at best to story but f***ing cool to see on camera. the writers left a lot of his character, that we all love out, and it should never have been done. i agree with all the negative things people have to say about the film in which they are absolutely correct.
not enough action in a 2 1/2 hour time frame. no back story on brock or marko to get emotionally involved. why introduce things in the movie and show how they play out (the sick daughter, gwen stacy....etc).
with a 250+ million budget it seems they spent more money on the payroll than anything else.
the fx were pretty cool but were too noticable at times.
peter w/ the black suit wasnt even cheesy...it was sad. they cast, in interviews, kept saying they were going to a dark place in this film w/ the characters. the only dark places this film went to were in the subway and the night fights. thats it. peters more arrogant side was a joke most of the time. when he struck mj at the club really hit your heart (that was good) and you felt emotion in that scene.
too many convenient incidents in the film to really accept this film as a serious flick. it really felt like the writers were just done with the story and didnt care.
the continuity was terrible in this film.
no explanation of the particle machine. why the hell is peter able to take the suit off all movie except for the end when he has to rip it off (need better writing than that). sandman recieving forgiveness and leaving (g...a...y).
harry getting amnesia (WTF) a few bumps on the head should have annoyed him at best (remember he used the enhancing gas to become the goblin)
i say yay for the studio, investers, producers, all the money gobbling whores who get their money from the film but you all screwed the fans and you know it. the film really seemed amateurish at times. a terrible way to end the trilogy.
i might be a little biased with this review but being a spidey fan you have to be. at best i give the film 4 out of 10. hopefully a directors cut dvd will have been edited better. i still love raimi and spidey but this film was sadly misguided and handled.
Posted by pags34
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May 6, 2007 6:31 PM
im a big spidey fan. loved the first two movies. im a big sam raimi fan and i loved what he has done with the other two films. i understand that with comic movies you want elements from the comic as well as new fresh idea to seperate the movie from the comic, i get that and i like it.
having said that i was hugely let down by this movie. even though they put venom in it, my favorite spidey villian, they never should have done it without a proper story and screen time. he as a nussuance at best to story but f***ing cool to see on camera. the writers left a lot of his character, that we all love out, and it should never have been done. i agree with all the negative things people have to say about the film in which they are absolutely correct.
not enough action in a 2 1/2 hour time frame. no back story on brock or marko to get emotionally involved. why introduce things in the movie and show how they play out (the sick daughter, gwen stacy....etc).
with a 250+ million budget it seems they spent more money on the payroll than anything else.
the fx were pretty cool but were too noticable at times.
peter w/ the black suit wasnt even cheesy...it was sad. they cast, in interviews, kept saying they were going to a dark place in this film w/ the characters. the only dark places this film went to were in the subway and the night fights. thats it. peters more arrogant side was a joke most of the time. when he struck mj at the club really hit your heart (that was good) and you felt emotion in that scene.
too many convenient incidents in the film to really accept this film as a serious flick. it really felt like the writers were just done with the story and didnt care.
the continuity was terrible in this film.
no explanation of the particle machine. why the hell is peter able to take the suit off all movie except for the end when he has to rip it off (need better writing than that). sandman recieving forgiveness and leaving (g...a...y).
harry getting amnesia (WTF) a few bumps on the head should have annoyed him at best (remember he used the enhancing gas to become the goblin)
i say yay for the studio, investers, producers, all the money gobbling whores who get their money from the film but you all screwed the fans and you know it. the film really seemed amateurish at times. a terrible way to end the trilogy.
i might be a little biased with this review but being a spidey fan you have to be. at best i give the film 4 out of 10. hopefully a directors cut dvd will have been edited better. i still love raimi and spidey but this film was sadly misguided and handled.
Posted by pags34
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May 6, 2007 6:34 PM
The movie was alright i mean it could have been better. But some points for all of you doubting a fourth because of cramming it all in. What was the point of Dr.Conners without the tought of the lizard? Peter wasent paying atteting when he said he stunts aggression so why whould that matter? The couldnt have left venom out because the fourth would have been impossible to make because why would anyone have seen the 3rd just harry vs peter? I doubt it. So there will be a fourth i just hope theres still tobey.
Posted by SpidermanFanForever
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May 6, 2007 6:35 PM
It was too long. Sandman was useless. Best line was Sandman at the end: "I didn't mean for any of this to happen." That is funny, I could have sworn you were trying to kill Spiderman 5 minutes ago?
Venom was underused. Topher did a great job with what little time he had. I would have liked to see him to refer to him and the symbiote as "we" though.
I am so glad I got to see Kirsten Dunst (worst casting ever), James Franco, and Tobey Maguire dance. I would much rather see that then action in a Spiderman movie.
Ah well, better luck next time. I won't mind if they don't come back now. Just bring back Venom and Topher for 4. He deserves another shot.
Posted by Venom_Fan24
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May 6, 2007 6:39 PM
I don't expect anything to be half-hearted ... anything! If you expected people to think the world of this movie, then you should at least put that much into it. Yes the movie was "fun" but insulting the intelligence of your audience is an insult to all of us. We're intelligent enough to understand the plot that Raimi was supposed to be portraying. He doesn't have to "dumb" it down for us by adding unnecessary dance scenes or useless analysis( i.e. the news reporters). If you really "loved" the transformers than you're expecting Michael Bay to do them justice, all we're asking is that Raimi could have at least done Spider-Man justice as well. And before you start criticizing people for blogging, understand what it means first. People Blog to get their opinions out, that's what it's for so if you're tired of hearing our opinions than stop reading them ... "nuff said"
Posted by Wade_Wilson
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May 6, 2007 6:40 PM
SPOILERS
In no way is this "review" in order. I am just pointing out what is wrong with the movie.
Where to begin, how to begin to break down a movie that people gathered in herds to watch but were left with a nasty taste in their mouth? Did people like the movie? I am sure there are people who loved the movie. Individuals who thought it was the best movie out of the trilogy (if it truly is the last movie, which I doubt it is.) and want to see it over and over. However, this is my opinion, I think most people were so caught up in the hype and the fact that it is SPIDER-MAN that they loved the movie no matter what. It can happen, it has happened to me. It has happened with Superman Returns, I been on numerous threads and found that people are re-editing their comments because they had time to think and absorb the movie and found that Spider-man 3 was not that great. A movie comes to mind that I can give as an example. Star Trek: Nemesis. I could not WAIT for this movie to come out. I avoided all info and news on this movie and bought my ticket and was the first one to watch the movie in my area. I was so hyped to see Nemesis. I watched the movie and LOVED it. I went back and watched THREE more times during the week. Then, it hits me, the movie was HORRIBLE. So many plot holes, so many inconsistencies. Reman? What? What is going on. B4? Okay, now I am mad because I let myself get caught up in something that was not great. It happens all the time with a lot of people.
Okay, lets be honest, everyone here knows that I was critical of Spider-man 3 years before it came out. Just like I was of Superman Returns. Some can argue that I was going to hate the movie regardless if it was great or not. However, that is not how I operate. I LOVE movies. I cannot get enough of them. Movies are great escape for me and a lot of people as well. A lot of people say I know movies, I know what makes a great movie. I truly believe I know movies. When I go to watch Fantastic Four, am I looking for great acting and great story-telling? No, I am looking for fun and great action. The first Spider-man set the bar for comic-book movie. It was deep, well acted and had some good action scenes. Spider-man 2 ( In my opinion, one of the greatest comic-book movies after Superman) Set the bar even higher and showed that action and story can be perfectly mixed together. Spider-man 3 did not do that. It tried to do too many things at once and failed int he process. Many will say, well how did Spider-man 3 make 148 million at the box-office? Easy, it is Spider-man. People want to see it. Regardless if others say do not waste your money, people are going to rush and watch the movie. It has Venom for goddness sake!
What is wrong with the movie? Many issues are present when it comes to Spiderm-man 3. First, the tone and feel are completey different. Peter Parker is happy, he is going to ask Mary Jane to marry him. Harry knows Peter Parker is Spider-man and hates him for "killing" his father. One scene that really angered me is the way the symbiote was introduced. Peter and Mj are watching shooting stars whilst laying on one of Spidey's webs. Not far from them a meteorite crash and the black symbiote ooze crawls out and at the exact same moment as Peter and MJ get on his little scooter the symbiote attaches itself to the bike. Seriously, Peter and MJ didn't hear the meteorite? No Spidey sense (we will get more indepth with the spidey sense later)? It must have been one of the most quiet and soft landing in the history of earth. Moving on, MJ is a musical play. She is not the start according to the billing, but she has a solo during the play which we get to actually LISTEN too for about 4 minutes. Peter is in the front row in awe of his one true love, and Harry is in the balcony watching MJ and then giving Peter the stink-eye. After the play, Peter feeds MJ's ego and is loving his life. One anoying thing about the movie can be pointed to the villians. There are FOUR villains. Peter Battling himself, New Goblin (or goblin Jr. as Peter Parker so kindly put it) Sandman and the supporting character Venom. In one sequence, we see the Symbiote attach itself to Peter;s bike then Harry getting ready with his Dad's Goblin toys, then next it is Sandman running from the police. One villian after another. Quick, pointless and has no meaning at all. How does Sandman become Sandman? Well here is a quick note. Sam Raimi in many interviews has stated that he hates the character Venom because he has no depth and he is nothing more than eye-candy. Yeah, and the Sandman is filled to the brim with backstory. Raimi also stated he likes the comics of yesteryear and does not like the new versions as much. He also stated that Venom would never be in his Spider-man movies as long as he is directing them. So, taking his word might be difficult. Moving along, Raimi likes Sandman (real name Flint Marko) because he has depth and a great backstory. Okay, I do not agree with that, but he can make Sandman work if he truly wants to use him as a primary Villian (And ONLY villian). What does Raimi do? Make up his own back story. Why? Why didn't he show that Sandman was a small time crook and liar and then became part of the Mob as a even filthier crook? Soon turning bitter and more and more Violent? What is with the Kid and the kid dying? We are supposed to feel compassion for Sandman, but at the same time, he seems like a very uninspired supporting character. Now, how Sandman became to be, he is running from police and jumps a fence falls into what seems a huge hole with sand at the bottom and is a bit confused, as was most of the audience. Then we cut to a testing facility that is about to run a scientific procedure when one of the techs state that there is an unknown mass int the chamber. Another tech responds, it is probably a bird, it will fly out when the machinces is turned on. It has been a while since I was Biology, but I am very positive that a BIRDS mass is EXACTLY the same mass as a HUMAN. I must have completey forgot that. So Flint is stuck in this sandbox with spinning turbines (or are they Warp Nacelles?) and his mocelular cells are bonded with the sand. Yep, that is it. We get a scene of Flint Marko running from the police and then talking to his family that disowned him so we can somehow get an emotional connection and then he is sandman. Whip, bam, BOOM, instant villian.
We also have a very long and Horribly executed fight between Harry and Peter. They fight and battle through New York and then Peter Defeats Harry by almost killing. Then Peter takes him to the hospital and Voila! Harry has Amnesia, yep the classic Soap Opera tactic. Harry forgets Peter :"killed" his Dad and basically anything bad at all, in fact he is super duper happy!!!! Now, mary Jane is having a few troubles with her play, seems that critics do not like her singing. Peter tries to console her and says that people HATED Spider-man but it takes time and now he is LOVED. MJ is mad and says that it is not about him but about her. Now, here is where it gets DUMB. MJ is mad at Peter because he is the Famous Spider-man, which only a few people know about. she is so self-absorbed that she doesn't realize that Peter saved her ass a few hundred times and that she could take some of his advice.
So we go to another odd scene. A crane is breaking and Gwen Stacy is in danger. Now the father of Gwen Stacy is the Chief of police and is there not knowing his daughter is in danger. The crane cannot be trned off and the Chief tells them to turn of the power to the block. Now, I must be new to power, but a lot of construction equipment is powered directly into the cities mainframe. In know way could you cut power to the skyscraper crane ither than cutting power to the whole block. Spider-man rescues Stacy (nope, no breaking neck) and we see Eddie Brock there (topher grace is not a good Eddie Brock in ANY way.) and he happens to be by the Chief and he tells him Gwen is the one falling to her death and then says, oh, by the way I am dating your daughter. YAWN.
So MJ and Peter are fighing. Spider-man had the key of the city given to him by Gwen Stacy and in a really dumb and idiotic move by the director, Spider-man tells Gwen to kiss him because the audience will love it (remember, he doesn't have the symbiote attached to him yet.) SO exactly like MJ kissed him in that very awesoem rain scene, Gwen kissed Peter. MJ is of course watchig this as she was invited and Peter knows she is there. Why would it be okay for them to kiss? They are trying to make drama where in no way would that really happen? In the only great scene in the movie, with of course, Bruce Campbell, Peter is going to propose to MJ with his Aunt's Wedding ring. So he is in a french restaurant and Bruce Campbell is HILARIOUS has the host. He was the great part in this movie. Of course MJ is mad and is questing the kiss (when you would question much sooner than that) and she leaves. Yep, she leaves. Then, Peter and Aunt may are called to the Police department. Well, it would seem that Uncle Ben was killed by Flint Marko, not the other dude. Even thought the first movie confirmed it was only one guy and it was the guy with the balding blinde hair. I think it was a cheap move to make Sandman the killer. Why does EVERY villian have to be connected to Peter Parker? Every Villian is either connected or knows Peter. It gets old. SO Peter and Aunt may learn that Flint is the real killer and Peter is mad. Sounds like perfect timing for the black suit, huh? Well, Peter has a police scanner and he is scanning to see if there is a Sandman (you see Spider-man fought the sandmand earlier when he was given the key to the city. So he know what the sandmand looks like and he now knows it is Flint Marko) For some odd reason, Peter is listening to the scanner in regular clothes, then really late into the night he puts on the spidey suit. Then he falls asleep on the bed. Guess what? The symbiote attacks and bonds with Peter. He is now the Black suited Spiderman. Peter wakes up hanging from a building not knowing how he got there. Does he question it? Nope. The suit feels to good and he is jumping and flapping about. We rarely see Peter in the black suit. Even though it is promoted a lot, we probably see him in the black suit for about 7 minutes tops. Black Spidey then goes after everyone bringin destruction and brutal force. Peter is turning to the dark side. He goes after Sandman and he thinks he kills sandman with water in the sewer. Everything is sweeeet. MJ, however, is feeling lonely because she is not getting the attention she thinks she deserves. She calls Harry and arrives at his house. They start cooking and dancing and then they kiss. MJ leaves because of shear guilt and Harry is mad, and then his Dad talks to him again and Harry Remembers everything in a 4 second memory flash. Now he goes after MJ and forces her to break up with Peter Parker. How? Magic of course. Harry devices a plan to make Peter even madder and comes forth as the reason why MJ broke up with him for another guy, HARRY is the other guy. Peter is realizing the suit is bad and takes it off. When MJ breaks up with him he puts it back on. Peter goes to Harry's place and they fight. Peter throws a pumpkin bomb at AHrry and you think he 'splodes. Peter is bad to the bone and we have a really cheesy and corny tribute to Saturday Night Fever. Peter exposes Eddie Brock as a fake when Eddie photoshops a picture of Spidey stealing money. Eddie is saddened. Then Eddie see's Peter with his gal Gwen and he is enraged (remember, Eddie did not for one second have any concern that Gwen was falling to her death) Then we have Peter taking Gwen to the little shack that MJ sings and waitresses. Peter then does one of the most absurd and uncalled for acts in cinema history. HE DANCE TO JAZZ! Yep, Peter Parker dances to JAZZ! For six minutes! As I stated before, that is one of the things I was SO hoping to see when I was arriving to the theaters. I was thinking that the one thing that Spider-man is missing is spontaneous dancing. Moving on again, Peter gets in a fight with a bouncer and accidently hits MJ (who has not mark on her what-so-ever.) Then Peter realizes it is the suit AGAIN. He goes to the top of a church where Eddie happens to be. Eddie is praying to God to KILL peter parker because he was exposed for being a fake. Talk about drama. Peter gets the symbiote off of him and who happens to be there? Eddie. The symbiote attaches himself to Eddie and he becomes Venom. Now, does Venom look scary? No. Does Venom say "we" or "us" no. Does he have a deep raspy voice? No, he sounds like foreman. Venom has been knocked down to an annoying supporting character that is not even resembling the Venom we have come to love and know. Venom makes an alliance wih Sandman who IS alive. They kidnap MJ, YAWN, and they web her up in a construction site. Spider-man asks for Harry's help, Harry reveals he has a hideous scar!!!! Wait, didn't MJ comment on how his scar from his memory lost accident healed so fast? Then why the scarring? Anyways, Harry refuses to help. Then, Harry's butler comes in with great info. Spider-man didn't kill his Father!!!! Why, if that was only told in the FIRST movie, none of this Harry having revenge would even be happening!
So, spidey is fighting Venom and Sandman (horrible affects for sandman by the way) and Spidey is almost killed, but Harry at the last moment comes in to help. YIPPY! Very boring fight scene and very boring story. MJ is falling slowly to her death....as usual. Now, Harry with his glider was melting Sandman and turning him into glass, so why not continue to do that? Or, since there are firetrucks everywhere, then why not Spray him? Sandman is forgotten for some reason and Spidey and Venom fight. Harry helps and even sacrifices himself by throwing himself in front of Peter before Venom can stab Peter. However, why couldn't Harry Just ram into venom? If Harry could get there in time before he was stabbed, then why not just ram the hell outta Venom? So, Peter is devastated by Harry being stabbed and thrown through the air and attachs Venom. He defeats Venom by using pipes as sound weapons and then pulls out Eddie Brock as Venom is going crazy by the vibrations Spidey is making. Then SPidey throws a pumpkin bomb at the symbiote and Eddie doesn't want that to happen and runs to join the Symbiote. Then it explodes leaving a small residue of the symbiote. Then Sandman shows up out of the blue. Says he is sorry and tells how Peter's Uncle really died. Peter forgives him and Sandman is on his way in a huge dust cloud. Now we are at a funeral, for who we do not know. It is made to be believed that it is Harry, but There are people at the funeral who do not even know Harry and it is more likely it was Eddie Brocks Funeral. The next scene is Peter going to the restaurant where MJ works and he takes her hand. Then the movie is over.
The movie lacked originality and depth. This movie cost 250+ million to make and I did not see that. Nothing was memorable in the movie. No action scene was memorable. The train scene in spidey 2 is a great example, that scene kicked ass, it stuck in my head. It had action emotion and suspense. No action scene in Spidey 3 had that. What is the movie supposed to be? Action, Suspense, Horror, Comedy, romance, Musical, dance, or superhero? Pick one or a few, not every genre. I am surprised there was no western elements or time travel. Wait, the opening credits count as time travel. What is with the crying? Everyone was crying ALL the time. Was I watching a soap opera or a Superhero flick? One thing is obvious. Raimi has lost his touch. Lets move on. Do not expect Spidey 3 to make a lot of money. It made it's record making money and now people are going to realize it is not worth it. Demoting Venom because Raimi hates the character ( and it shows) and having Venom do nothing other than be a side character is lame. Sandman was not used well either. The movie was more about Peter, Harry and MJ than anything else. 250+ million? Where was that shown? There was more talking, singing and dancing than anything else. It really is sad.
One thing I have to say is that it does not go well with Spidey 1 or 2. I can watch 1 and 2 and they mesh, but after watching spidey 2, 3 just does not belong.
Sorry for this being so long. I am sure there are mispellings and grammatical errors. However, if you can see pass the crap that is Spider-man 3, then you can see pass my errors as well. Lets hope Simpsons, FF:ROTTS, HP:TOOTP, Die Hard 4, Transformers, Pirates 3, Evan Almighty, Rush Hour 3, and even Ocean's Thirteen are really great and fun movies. I purposely Excluded Shrek the Turd because I hate those movies.
Posted by TimeTRAVELER
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May 6, 2007 9:38 PM
SPOILERS
In no way is this "review" in order. I am just pointing out what is wrong with the movie.
Where to begin, how to begin to break down a movie that people gathered in herds to watch but were left with a nasty taste in their mouth? Did people like the movie? I am sure there are people who loved the movie. Individuals who thought it was the best movie out of the trilogy (if it truly is the last movie, which I doubt it is.) and want to see it over and over. However, this is my opinion, I think most people were so caught up in the hype and the fact that it is SPIDER-MAN that they loved the movie no matter what. It can happen, it has happened to me. It has happened with Superman Returns, I been on numerous threads and found that people are re-editing their comments because they had time to think and absorb the movie and found that Spider-man 3 was not that great. A movie comes to mind that I can give as an example. Star Trek: Nemesis. I could not WAIT for this movie to come out. I avoided all info and news on this movie and bought my ticket and was the first one to watch the movie in my area. I was so hyped to see Nemesis. I watched the movie and LOVED it. I went back and watched THREE more times during the week. Then, it hits me, the movie was HORRIBLE. So many plot holes, so many inconsistencies. Reman? What? What is going on. B4? Okay, now I am mad because I let myself get caught up in something that was not great. It happens all the time with a lot of people.
Okay, lets be honest, everyone here knows that I was critical of Spider-man 3 years before it came out. Just like I was of Superman Returns. Some can argue that I was going to hate the movie regardless if it was great or not. However, that is not how I operate. I LOVE movies. I cannot get enough of them. Movies are great escape for me and a lot of people as well. A lot of people say I know movies, I know what makes a great movie. I truly believe I know movies. When I go to watch Fantastic Four, am I looking for great acting and great story-telling? No, I am looking for fun and great action. The first Spider-man set the bar for comic-book movie. It was deep, well acted and had some good action scenes. Spider-man 2 ( In my opinion, one of the greatest comic-book movies after Superman) Set the bar even higher and showed that action and story can be perfectly mixed together. Spider-man 3 did not do that. It tried to do too many things at once and failed int he process. Many will say, well how did Spider-man 3 make 148 million at the box-office? Easy, it is Spider-man. People want to see it. Regardless if others say do not waste your money, people are going to rush and watch the movie. It has Venom for goddness sake!
What is wrong with the movie? Many issues are present when it comes to Spiderm-man 3. First, the tone and feel are completey different. Peter Parker is happy, he is going to ask Mary Jane to marry him. Harry knows Peter Parker is Spider-man and hates him for "killing" his father. One scene that really angered me is the way the symbiote was introduced. Peter and Mj are watching shooting stars whilst laying on one of Spidey's webs. Not far from them a meteorite crash and the black symbiote ooze crawls out and at the exact same moment as Peter and MJ get on his little scooter the symbiote attaches itself to the bike. Seriously, Peter and MJ didn't hear the meteorite? No Spidey sense (we will get more indepth with the spidey sense later)? It must have been one of the most quiet and soft landing in the history of earth. Moving on, MJ is a musical play. She is not the start according to the billing, but she has a solo during the play which we get to actually LISTEN too for about 4 minutes. Peter is in the front row in awe of his one true love, and Harry is in the balcony watching MJ and then giving Peter the stink-eye. After the play, Peter feeds MJ's ego and is loving his life. One anoying thing about the movie can be pointed to the villians. There are FOUR villains. Peter Battling himself, New Goblin (or goblin Jr. as Peter Parker so kindly put it) Sandman and the supporting character Venom. In one sequence, we see the Symbiote attach itself to Peter;s bike then Harry getting ready with his Dad's Goblin toys, then next it is Sandman running from the police. One villian after another. Quick, pointless and has no meaning at all. How does Sandman become Sandman? Well here is a quick note. Sam Raimi in many interviews has stated that he hates the character Venom because he has no depth and he is nothing more than eye-candy. Yeah, and the Sandman is filled to the brim with backstory. Raimi also stated he likes the comics of yesteryear and does not like the new versions as much. He also stated that Venom would never be in his Spider-man movies as long as he is directing them. So, taking his word might be difficult. Moving along, Raimi likes Sandman (real name Flint Marko) because he has depth and a great backstory. Okay, I do not agree with that, but he can make Sandman work if he truly wants to use him as a primary Villian (And ONLY villian). What does Raimi do? Make up his own back story. Why? Why didn't he show that Sandman was a small time crook and liar and then became part of the Mob as a even filthier crook? Soon turning bitter and more and more Violent? What is with the Kid and the kid dying? We are supposed to feel compassion for Sandman, but at the same time, he seems like a very uninspired supporting character. Now, how Sandman became to be, he is running from police and jumps a fence falls into what seems a huge hole with sand at the bottom and is a bit confused, as was most of the audience. Then we cut to a testing facility that is about to run a scientific procedure when one of the techs state that there is an unknown mass int the chamber. Another tech responds, it is probably a bird, it will fly out when the machinces is turned on. It has been a while since I was Biology, but I am very positive that a BIRDS mass is EXACTLY the same mass as a HUMAN. I must have completey forgot that. So Flint is stuck in this sandbox with spinning turbines (or are they Warp Nacelles?) and his mocelular cells are bonded with the sand. Yep, that is it. We get a scene of Flint Marko running from the police and then talking to his family that disowned him so we can somehow get an emotional connection and then he is sandman. Whip, bam, BOOM, instant villian.
We also have a very long and Horribly executed fight between Harry and Peter. They fight and battle through New York and then Peter Defeats Harry by almost killing. Then Peter takes him to the hospital and Voila! Harry has Amnesia, yep the classic Soap Opera tactic. Harry forgets Peter :"killed" his Dad and basically anything bad at all, in fact he is super duper happy!!!! Now, mary Jane is having a few troubles with her play, seems that critics do not like her singing. Peter tries to console her and says that people HATED Spider-man but it takes time and now he is LOVED. MJ is mad and says that it is not about him but about her. Now, here is where it gets DUMB. MJ is mad at Peter because he is the Famous Spider-man, which only a few people know about. she is so self-absorbed that she doesn't realize that Peter saved her ass a few hundred times and that she could take some of his advice.
So we go to another odd scene. A crane is breaking and Gwen Stacy is in danger. Now the father of Gwen Stacy is the Chief of police and is there not knowing his daughter is in danger. The crane cannot be trned off and the Chief tells them to turn of the power to the block. Now, I must be new to power, but a lot of construction equipment is powered directly into the cities mainframe. In know way could you cut power to the skyscraper crane ither than cutting power to the whole block. Spider-man rescues Stacy (nope, no breaking neck) and we see Eddie Brock there (topher grace is not a good Eddie Brock in ANY way.) and he happens to be by the Chief and he tells him Gwen is the one falling to her death and then says, oh, by the way I am dating your daughter. YAWN.
So MJ and Peter are fighing. Spider-man had the key of the city given to him by Gwen Stacy and in a really dumb and idiotic move by the director, Spider-man tells Gwen to kiss him because the audience will love it (remember, he doesn't have the symbiote attached to him yet.) SO exactly like MJ kissed him in that very awesoem rain scene, Gwen kissed Peter. MJ is of course watchig this as she was invited and Peter knows she is there. Why would it be okay for them to kiss? They are trying to make drama where in no way would that really happen? In the only great scene in the movie, with of course, Bruce Campbell, Peter is going to propose to MJ with his Aunt's Wedding ring. So he is in a french restaurant and Bruce Campbell is HILARIOUS has the host. He was the great part in this movie. Of course MJ is mad and is questing the kiss (when you would question much sooner than that) and she leaves. Yep, she leaves. Then, Peter and Aunt may are called to the Police department. Well, it would seem that Uncle Ben was killed by Flint Marko, not the other dude. Even thought the first movie confirmed it was only one guy and it was the guy with the balding blinde hair. I think it was a cheap move to make Sandman the killer. Why does EVERY villian have to be connected to Peter Parker? Every Villian is either connected or knows Peter. It gets old. SO Peter and Aunt may learn that Flint is the real killer and Peter is mad. Sounds like perfect timing for the black suit, huh? Well, Peter has a police scanner and he is scanning to see if there is a Sandman (you see Spider-man fought the sandmand earlier when he was given the key to the city. So he know what the sandmand looks like and he now knows it is Flint Marko) For some odd reason, Peter is listening to the scanner in regular clothes, then really late into the night he puts on the spidey suit. Then he falls asleep on the bed. Guess what? The symbiote attacks and bonds with Peter. He is now the Black suited Spiderman. Peter wakes up hanging from a building not knowing how he got there. Does he question it? Nope. The suit feels to good and he is jumping and flapping about. We rarely see Peter in the black suit. Even though it is promoted a lot, we probably see him in the black suit for about 7 minutes tops. Black Spidey then goes after everyone bringin destruction and brutal force. Peter is turning to the dark side. He goes after Sandman and he thinks he kills sandman with water in the sewer. Everything is sweeeet. MJ, however, is feeling lonely because she is not getting the attention she thinks she deserves. She calls Harry and arrives at his house. They start cooking and dancing and then they kiss. MJ leaves because of shear guilt and Harry is mad, and then his Dad talks to him again and Harry Remembers everything in a 4 second memory flash. Now he goes after MJ and forces her to break up with Peter Parker. How? Magic of course. Harry devices a plan to make Peter even madder and comes forth as the reason why MJ broke up with him for another guy, HARRY is the other guy. Peter is realizing the suit is bad and takes it off. When MJ breaks up with him he puts it back on. Peter goes to Harry's place and they fight. Peter throws a pumpkin bomb at AHrry and you think he 'splodes. Peter is bad to the bone and we have a really cheesy and corny tribute to Saturday Night Fever. Peter exposes Eddie Brock as a fake when Eddie photoshops a picture of Spidey stealing money. Eddie is saddened. Then Eddie see's Peter with his gal Gwen and he is enraged (remember, Eddie did not for one second have any concern that Gwen was falling to her death) Then we have Peter taking Gwen to the little shack that MJ sings and waitresses. Peter then does one of the most absurd and uncalled for acts in cinema history. HE DANCE TO JAZZ! Yep, Peter Parker dances to JAZZ! For six minutes! As I stated before, that is one of the things I was SO hoping to see when I was arriving to the theaters. I was thinking that the one thing that Spider-man is missing is spontaneous dancing. Moving on again, Peter gets in a fight with a bouncer and accidently hits MJ (who has not mark on her what-so-ever.) Then Peter realizes it is the suit AGAIN. He goes to the top of a church where Eddie happens to be. Eddie is praying to God to KILL peter parker because he was exposed for being a fake. Talk about drama. Peter gets the symbiote off of him and who happens to be there? Eddie. The symbiote attaches himself to Eddie and he becomes Venom. Now, does Venom look scary? No. Does Venom say "we" or "us" no. Does he have a deep raspy voice? No, he sounds like foreman. Venom has been knocked down to an annoying supporting character that is not even resembling the Venom we have come to love and know. Venom makes an alliance wih Sandman who IS alive. They kidnap MJ, YAWN, and they web her up in a construction site. Spider-man asks for Harry's help, Harry reveals he has a hideous scar!!!! Wait, didn't MJ comment on how his scar from his memory lost accident healed so fast? Then why the scarring? Anyways, Harry refuses to help. Then, Harry's butler comes in with great info. Spider-man didn't kill his Father!!!! Why, if that was only told in the FIRST movie, none of this Harry having revenge would even be happening!
So, spidey is fighting Venom and Sandman (horrible affects for sandman by the way) and Spidey is almost killed, but Harry at the last moment comes in to help. YIPPY! Very boring fight scene and very boring story. MJ is falling slowly to her death....as usual. Now, Harry with his glider was melting Sandman and turning him into glass, so why not continue to do that? Or, since there are firetrucks everywhere, then why not Spray him? Sandman is forgotten for some reason and Spidey and Venom fight. Harry helps and even sacrifices himself by throwing himself in front of Peter before Venom can stab Peter. However, why couldn't Harry Just ram into venom? If Harry could get there in time before he was stabbed, then why not just ram the hell outta Venom? So, Peter is devastated by Harry being stabbed and thrown through the air and attachs Venom. He defeats Venom by using pipes as sound weapons and then pulls out Eddie Brock as Venom is going crazy by the vibrations Spidey is making. Then SPidey throws a pumpkin bomb at the symbiote and Eddie doesn't want that to happen and runs to join the Symbiote. Then it explodes leaving a small residue of the symbiote. Then Sandman shows up out of the blue. Says he is sorry and tells how Peter's Uncle really died. Peter forgives him and Sandman is on his way in a huge dust cloud. Now we are at a funeral, for who we do not know. It is made to be believed that it is Harry, but There are people at the funeral who do not even know Harry and it is more likely it was Eddie Brocks Funeral. The next scene is Peter going to the restaurant where MJ works and he takes her hand. Then the movie is over.
The movie lacked originality and depth. This movie cost 250+ million to make and I did not see that. Nothing was memorable in the movie. No action scene was memorable. The train scene in spidey 2 is a great example, that scene kicked ass, it stuck in my head. It had action emotion and suspense. No action scene in Spidey 3 had that. What is the movie supposed to be? Action, Suspense, Horror, Comedy, romance, Musical, dance, or superhero? Pick one or a few, not every genre. I am surprised there was no western elements or time travel. Wait, the opening credits count as time travel. What is with the crying? Everyone was crying ALL the time. Was I watching a soap opera or a Superhero flick? One thing is obvious. Raimi has lost his touch. Lets move on. Do not expect Spidey 3 to make a lot of money. It made it's record making money and now people are going to realize it is not worth it. Demoting Venom because Raimi hates the character ( and it shows) and having Venom do nothing other than be a side character is lame. Sandman was not used well either. The movie was more about Peter, Harry and MJ than anything else. 250+ million? Where was that shown? There was more talking, singing and dancing than anything else. It really is sad.
One thing I have to say is that it does not go well with Spidey 1 or 2. I can watch 1 and 2 and they mesh, but after watching spidey 2, 3 just does not belong.
Sorry for this being so long. I am sure there are mispellings and grammatical errors. However, if you can see pass the crap that is Spider-man 3, then you can see pass my errors as well. Lets hope Simpsons, FF:ROTTS, HP:TOOTP, Die Hard 4, Transformers, Pirates 3, Evan Almighty, Rush Hour 3, and even Ocean's Thirteen are really great and fun movies. I purposely Excluded Shrek the Turd because I hate those movies.
Posted by TimeTRAVELER
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May 6, 2007 9:46 PM
Some parts were corny. The giant & flying Sandman for starters. Would've loved to see more of Venom! That character needs time to develope! I do however think Topher Grace was mis-cast. Eddie Brock needed to be a little more serious. Not a smart alec. That's Spidey's job. Loved Peter's dark side sequences!(Except for the "Saturday Night Fever" like strut Peter did down the street!) Harry had that ass-whipping coming though! Over all, a good film & sequel. On a scale of 1 to 10 & 10 being best...A solid 8.
Posted by eman930
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May 7, 2007 12:16 AM
I love spiderman, I mean LOVE him. HE is the awesomest, did i spell that right? is that even a word? anyway the first two movies although not perfect they were really good, i believed the movies were progressing to be better and better. the fact is that with this film they actually took about 10 steps back. they cram alot into this movie and all in the wrong way. How hard is it to write a script about something that has already been written? they should of looked at the comics and stuck close to them since the comics are popular and already have a winning story. im not saying they should of copied them ecxactly but it would of helped alot if they would of summarized some of the most popular moments from the comics, hell even the cartoon series is better than this movie. i have a couple of major complaints that i want to air out.
1. the black costume SUCKED its the same one as the red and blue one except for the color and the small logo on the front and back. the costume from the comics or cartoon series is the best costume ever for any hero or villain i mean solid black all around with no lines and the huge venom spider that wraps arounds the chest and back. even though venom uses one almost identical it looks better on spiderman. not only that the costume shape shifts into basically anything and has a mind of its own in the movie its almost as retarded as harry when he gets hit on the head. I saw that as sam raimi taking and easy way out and not having to make a different suit.
2. Spiderman is funny in the comic yeah! but in the movie he is plain retarded wanabe funny, not as retarded as harry but pretty damn close. i mean what was up with the scene when he was walking down the srteet hitting up girls and they were rejecting them, i mean they should of at least made the girls like him a bit and they should of made him look badass not just bad. Lack of respect for spiderman as a character and as a superhero.
3. Spiders dont dance they spin webs, eat flies, and look evil while doing it. i would of have walked out of the theater if i was alone but the people i went with would of probably been upset. wasssup with emo peter? ithougth they were suppose to have make him look evil not gay/goth.
4. SANDMAN. Although his look was almost right on cue, his presence wasnt. he didnt belong in this movie. i hate the part in the movie when he apologizes for nearly killing half of new york city and nearly squasing spiderman to death and spiderman just forgives him. them to add insult to injury he flies away! wtf! since when can sand fly? sam raimi needs a break seriously. cuz hes not thinking logically.
5.they completely killed a perfectly good intro, they should of started the movie with the symbiote (the goo) arriving on the space shuttle from outer space and spiderman had to save the austraunauts and infected with the blakc suit. instead they just decide to drop it from the skye with no explanation whatsoever.
6. MARY JANE all i got to say is that they made her look like a WHORE!!!!!!!why would they make her kiss harry? why? she knows hes the green goblins son and possible enemy to spiderman. WHORE. and her singing scene sucked.
7. GAY BUTLER whats up with this gay ass butler that comes out of left field to tell harry something that would of been usefull years ago. and how does he still walk he looks like hes about to fall over.
8. How corny did it have to be? theres comedy and then there is corn, this was the whole corn patch, why would we want to laugh more than we would of want to see spiderman do something cool such as fight more or swing around more.
9.why couldnt he take the costume off, he had obviously taken it out throughout the movie cuz he had it in the little box, did he struggle everytime he took it off? the suit cant tell the future so it couldnt of possibly known peter was gonna put it on for sure. it was stupid.
10. VENOM although he almost looked perfect, he just like the rest of the movie was really flawed. why did he have spider webs on his costume? oh well, my biggest complaint about this is that nobody call him or refers to him as venom. he doesnt event know what his name is. MY SECOND BIGGEST COMPLAINT IS: WHY WOULD YOU WANNA KILL VENOM? WHY? ONE OF THE BEST VILLAINS EVER. SAM RAIMI YOU LET ME DOWN BAD. HOPEFULLY U DONT DIRECT THE NEXT THREE IF THEY STILL GO ON TO MAKE THEM AFTER THIS ASSASINATION U JUST SERVED ON SPIDEY SAM SHOULD FOCUS ON ANOTHER ARMY OF DARKNESS NOT ANOTHER SPIDERMAN BRUCE CAMPBELL SHOULD DO ANOTHER ONE BEFORE HE GETS TOO FAT. PASS SPIDERMAN ON TO TIM BURTON.
11. WHY WAS GWEN EVEN IN THIS FILM? WHY? DID THEY HAVE A REASON? A GOOD ONE? NOOOOOOOOOO...... THEY COULD OF BUT THEY DONT.
I COULD POSSIBLY GO ON AND ON AND ON AND ON BUT IM TIRED ALREADY. I JUST HOPE FANTASTIC FOUR DOESNT SUCK THIS BAD.
SINCERLY
OMAR......... I LOVE SPIDERMAN STILL.
Posted by omar
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May 7, 2007 5:08 AM
WTF!!!! This director ruin the movie!! Please please.. in the future stick with SPIDER-MAN AND HIS VILLIANS. Who cares about the relationship between Peter Parker and MJ??? huh?? Answer me!
The people that just wants an action movie and kids that do not read comics may like the movie, but you have let down all the true Spidy Fans who followed him in comics and TV shows. I am in my 30's and I have seen just about every Spider-man cartoons.
Peter Parker likes MJ..End of story. Why couldn't the director left it there??????
Venom's entrance into the movie was so retarded.
Posted by ntujyug
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May 7, 2007 6:50 AM
Since my introduction to the Marvel Universe in the early 90's thanks to various cartoons at that time(i.e. "Spider-Man" and "X-Men"), I caught on quick to the Marvel Universe. Spider-Man has never been my overall fave, but I know just enough about the comics/stroylines. Flash forward to now, Spider-Man 2 and X-Men 2 stand as my faves of all time. When X-Men 3 came out, it delivered on some cylinders for me, yet I was somewhat disappointed, which made me wonder: "Oh, oh, is this a foreshadowing of what Spider-Man 3 may do." I went into SM3 with HIGH EXPECTATIONS. Did SM3 deliver, on various aspects: Yes. Other aspects: A resounding HELL NO!
Now I don't know a lot about the Venom
Storyline(s), I mainly focused on Batman and X-Men, but anyways. Spider-Man 3 delivered on everything... except for various things: #1: Venom. Now, I may not know my Spider-Man and Venom. But, if I'm correct, Venom is supposed to be Spider-Man's ultimate adversary alongside Green Goblin. I would have loved to have seen Venom and Spider-Man battle it out in a swingfest over NYC. I would have loved a better way for the symbiote to be introduced, that Meteroite convienently striking down in the VERY SAME PARK THAT PETER AND MJ ARE IN. I mean c'mon, use the guy that MJ dated in SM2, John Jamison visiting the moon to retrieve various meteorites that have hit the moon over the years and reveal the Symbiote in one of the rocks. That would've made more sense for two reasons (1) The meteorite/Symbitote is introduced in a more fashionable and easier to digest storyline. And (2) Not only is the Symbitote introduced, but that is the very same stuff in which transforms John Jamison into the Wolf-Man(like in the comics.) Pretty good for someone who reads more Batman than Spider-Man. That would then setup Wolf-Man as a potential villain for SM4.
Another letdown is actually more out of anxiousness(If that is even a word). And that is Dr. Connors. WHEN DO WE GET TO SEE HIM BECOME THE LIZARD. Sam, will you please just stop showing Dr. Connors, isn't it time for Mr. Dylan Baker to cut loose in his role of Dr. Connors. I would pay BIG MONEY to see that.
Other than my whiny complaints about the lack in story for both Venom and Dr. Connors and not re-introducing us to MJ's ex-fiance, John who we all know becomes the Wolf-Man. SM3 delivered in it's performace of it's actors. Tobey, Kirsten, and Thomas did one hell of a job. I got a big laugh out of Betty Brandt reminding J.J.J. about his anger issues. I actually got a bit teary-eyed at Harry's death, despite seeing that from a mile away. And I'll say it here: WHY DID YOU KILL EDDIE BROCK!!! HE IS VENOM AND HE DESERVES TO COME BACK!! OH WELL, hey who is that turning in is grave, is that...couldn't be...
OMG it's Norman Osborne.
Hardcore Spidey-Fans should know why I just mentioned Norman. If you caught on to my little *wink* *wink*,head on over to MySpace.com/BCMartens and leave me a message. I'd like to hear on what my Spidey family has to say about SM3.
Posted by Iceman22
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May 7, 2007 8:56 AM
The movie was Great but Raimi made 5 fundamental mistakes.
1)liberties- Raimi took greater liberty with this movie than the others. People may not articulate this but things like flying SM, SM killing Ben, new Green Goblin costume etc. hurt the overall experience.
2)Short cuts. There were too many convenient and poorly explained coincidences. The meteor landing next to PP & MJ, Brock being in the church at the exact time PP was, the crain affecting Gwen only, SM finding a truck full of SAND in the city to hide in, etc.etc. these kinds of short cuts insult the audience's intelligent and detract from the movie.
3)Editing. many scenes needed to be deleted in this movie. Like the broadway scene, the finger pointing scene, the selling camera to JJ scene and many other comedic scenes. they made the movie too long and didn't serve any purpose.
4)Peter Parker crying. This seems to be an unforgivable mistake for the fans. People dont want to see a weak/wimpy hero.
5)Ending- this perhaps is the worst mistake of them all IMO. audiences need to see the hero kick some a$$ in the end. Regardless of the odds. SM should have beaten the crap out of Venom, THEN destroyed him with sound. Also, the way he "forgave" SM was lame and very anticlimatic.
Having said all that I still feel that overall it was a very good movie. It's easy to overlook this but There is a lot more good than bad in this movie. Raimi gave us some really good and spectacular scenes in the movie.
I give it an 8 out ot 10
Posted by horatiorome
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May 7, 2007 9:32 AM
Not bad for a comics fan, but not good for someone seeking a good follow up story to a superb set up from Spiderman 2... An equal balance of depth in all the characters was definitely lacking and I haven't seen such silliness in the villians since Batman and Robin. Totally didn't live up to the hype as a whole !
Posted by mysteryz33
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May 7, 2007 9:36 AM
*********SPOILERS****************
First off I am really disappointed in anyone whom gave this movie a good review.
Sam Raimi has killed the Spiderman movies.
Time to start from scratch.
There are so many things wrong with this movie. Let me just rant here.
Venom was killed way too easily and sounded like some homo from That 70's Show, are you kidding me?
The whole movie just felt forced, the editing is crap. The script was horrible.
Who keeps allowing Alvin Sargent to get away with writing mediocre material?
How many times will Spidey cry?
Seriously, I felt like he was ragging it.
Note to Mr. Raimi:
It is okay to have a few jokes in Spidey movie, not turn the character into a joke.
I was expecting so much action, instead I get less action then the previous two films.
So many things didn't make sense.
A meteor lands right next to Peter, how ironic. Stick to the story that the fans all know. It is more feasible that he goes and saves some astronauts from crashing then is taken over by the symbiote. Was that not in the budget? There is a reason your making the movie based on a comic book, follow it. Another thing this butler of Harry Osbourne's. He just pops up all of a sudden. If he knew his father so well, where was he the last two films. Then he decides to tell Harry, right before the battle at the end, that his father was killed by his own sword.
Thanks butler, you could have brought that to my attention a year ago.
Can you try to make me feel more sorry for the Sandman?
F@#! the Sandman, he was a thief and a murderer. Spidey just lets him blow away. Where the hell is he going? Back to Egypt to chase Brendan Fraser.
Just because I enjoy comic book movies, doesn't mean I will swallow all this crap. I will not be seeing anymore of these. I feel ripped off.
Obviously disappointed. I could elaborate on more points, but right now I am just pissed.
Posted by dr_sid_jawtug
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May 7, 2007 10:14 AM
All of you who are saying that movie was bad...dont matter to us u know why because people who liked the movie lined u up with the Critics who didnt like the movie.....Yeah my policy is if that critics like the movie dont go see it (certain time) but if Critics hate the movie do go see it because That will be the only good movie ever (critics r sometime right but NOT ALWAYS) they critisized X-men 3, they critisized Pirates of the Caribbean 2, if these movies r not good.......then i agree with the spidey reviews but if they r good (box office records says all) then We can ignore Illiterate Educated People.....because they all do YAP YAP........SPIDEY ROCKED............SPIDEY 2
Posted by supideymanrockshard
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May 7, 2007 10:16 AM
..........rocked.......spidey3 rocked hard....I dont need to say it u can all see the BOX OFFICE.......now 3 more spidey movie to go.....cant wait
Posted by supideymanrockshard
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May 7, 2007 10:18 AM
I THOUGHT THEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB TO TRY TO MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL THEMES IN THE FILM (REVENGE BEING FUTILE AND FORGIVENESS/REDEMTION)THEY COULD HAVE VERY EASILY JUST MADE AND ACTION FLICK AND LEFT IT AT THAT. LIKE ALL GREAT FANTASY MOVIES THERE ARE THREADS OF THE STORY THAT ARE REATLITY BASED AND RING TRUE WITH PEOPLE. JUST LIKE STAN LEE ALWAYS TRIED TO DO IN THE COMICS. WHICH IS VERY STANDARD AND POSITIVE IN THE JEWISH CULTURE. SURE THERE WERE SOME PARTS THAT SEEMED AWKWARD AND CORNY, BUT THATS WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT COMICS THERE ARE EXZAGERATIONS OF LIFE. LIKE OUR REALITIES ONLY MORE EXTREME. isnt that what entertainment really does?
Posted by USMCFAN
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May 7, 2007 12:33 PM
All I can say is that this movie was made for the money. This is a prime example of how a good thing can be completely destroyed when you have the wrong people doing it for the wrong reasons.
My biggest gripe is that like the horrid X-men 3 this 3rd installment tries to do too much with too little space to do it in. Frankly I think that this movie should have had only the Sandman as the main villain. Also, Spiderman had such a short time with the Black Suit that you barely even notice anything truly different about him with it on! Don't even get me started on the ridiculous dancing numbers that he did in the movie! What the hell was all that doing in there to begin with?
This is how the movie should have gone. Enter the new villain Sandman. Spiderman gets the black suit. Spiderman uses the black suit throughout the movie and struggles with what it does to him while trying to figure out how to stop the Sandman. Spiderman breaks the hold of the black suit over him. He learns something new about himself and still manages to beat the Sandman and save the day. The black suit is discarded. Enter Eddy Brock who Peter screws over during the movie while in the black suit. Eddy wants revenge on Peter. He wanders the streets crazed with anger. He stumbles into an alley where the black suit has crawled off to. The black suit finds Eddy Brock. He becomes Venom. The movie ends and we wait for a movie where Spiderman battles only Venom and possibly the Lizard which would be Spiderman 4. That would have been a better way to do it!
I grew up reading Spiderman along with X-men. I'm so disappointed that the 3rd movie in each of those franchises was completely and utterly ruined because studio executives were pushing to make more money! Spiderman 1 and 2 were so phenomenal that I had hoped that this would be the trilogy to remember. With how things have ended it's another one to forget.
I'm afraid that Fantastic Four will fall under the same sad direction once the second one makes the money that the studios are looking for. That's hollywood for you! For once I'd like to see a studio get it right and keep up the quality and ignore the quantity. In the end if the quality is good the quantity will follow and keep up that momentum far past what they had expected and then some! Sadly because this movie made so much money opening weekend they're going to see it as a triumph rather than a movie making tragedy. It was a pretty movie but that's the only nice thing I can say!
Posted by shadowsorceror
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May 7, 2007 12:35 PM
9/10 and the best chapter yet in the Spider-man movies! Highly recommended - especially in a large theater environment. Even with numerous villains, this movie was well done in all aspects, including special effects and storyline. Can't wait for the next movie!
Posted by pairofdivers
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May 7, 2007 2:00 PM
OK, wow, people are being WAY too critical of this film if you ask me, and it seems mostly due to one reason: Venom. Not what was actually in the film, but because they're such huge freaking Venom fanboys that they hate the fact that he was killed off and didn't have enough screentime. Boo hoo. It's a Spider-Man movie, not a Venom movie, He AS Venom, was in the film for about 35 minutes, and Eddie Brock was in a substantial portion of the rest of the movie. His story was handled quite well, and YES it was rather true to the comics in most of its key features. I'll agree that it does sting to have him killed off, but really, not so much as to tear this movie to pieces the way some people have been.
I saw the same film, and yeah, it has several flaws. That butler scene was atrocious and absolutely the worst possible way that the information as to how Norman Osborn died could have been conveyed. The Sandman retconning Uncle Ben's death just really didn't work all that well, and his motivations in the film were rather suspect. And yeah there were some pacing issues and editing issues with the overall film and how it handled all of it's storylines.
But you know what? Overall, I loved the film!
The acting in this film was far superior to the previous two films, especially for James Franco and Kirsten Dunst. This was the first time I ever actually cared for MJ's character in the movies. James Franco got a role that was tasked with the most difficult chore in the entire film for an actor, a totally cheesy, comic-booky amnesia sub-plot, and he made it work. And Work rather well at that. And Tobey Maguire I think did an excellent job as Peter Parker in this one, far better than in either of the previous two films.
There are more major action scenes in this film than in the previous two films By my count there were about 4 major action scenes in movie 1 (5 if you want to count the bonesaw fight for some reason), another 4 in movie 2 (although the train sequence was very long) and 6 major action scenes in Movie 3 (and that last fight was WAY longer and IMO cooler than the train fight ever was). So the film DOES have more action in it as well, and for the most part, better action.
People are complaining as to the plot being too much of a soap opera . . . well, duh! That's what Spider-Man has honestly always been to a greater or lesser degree. Read some of the old issues sometimes, it's one half Spider-Man adventures, one half Peter Parker's romantic struggles on a very soap-opera esque level. I'm fine with that, and honestly, I felt that a lot of it worked well. Not all of it, but most of it.
I still say most people's issue with this movie are all Venom based. And while I would agree that it would have been cool to see a movie where Venom was the only villain, and another entire film where Peter Parker was wearing the symbiote and was dating Black Cat, I can accept what was made and enjoy it without dwelling on what my fantasies for the series are or were going to be.
Overall, the movie works for me, on pretty much every level. And yeah there are issues that prevent it from being perfect, but still it's a solid film that doesn't deserve the amount of scorn it's getting from people who can't see around their hard-on for Venom.
Posted by MrGone
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May 7, 2007 2:43 PM
I thuoght is was awesome as hell the villians rocked venom in particular was well worth the wait can see why it did such a good job in theaters the only thing i did not like was it was to much of a love story but it had alot of action so all in all i give the movie a 9.5
Posted by coloradomale
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May 7, 2007 3:07 PM
I thought it was really great, and I enjoyed it better than "Spider-Man 2." However, it did sort of end on a sad note, so I hope that more will be made. I think Maguire should return, but maybe it's time to let another director try his hand at Spidey. I think Kirsten Dunst played Mary Jane well, especially in this film, but I never thought she was the best choice physically. And judging by the box office receipts, we will see more Spidey films, which right, I prefer a lot more to the current comics.
Posted by HulkSmashNow
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May 7, 2007 3:17 PM
Ridiculously stupid! I was hoping that with the venom story they might actually do this one right! Silly of me to have though that!(especially with actors like Kirsten Dunst, and James Franco there to destroy any halfway decent performance tobey might have given.) I thought we had hit the epitomy of predictable in number 2 but golly me who couldve known that Peter and Harry wouldve teamed up to save Dear Mary jane as she is again suspended from another psychos death trap. Will they ever end a spiderman movie differently? I have to say the moment where Spiderman lands on the rooftop in front of the American Flag blowing in the wind after he again dons the classic red & blue suit about made me lose my popcorn because I was in hysterical laughter. The one bright light among this blind example of cultures lack of depth was ms. Bryce Dallas-Howard. Although her part may have been small she played her role well and was able to make me forget who she was and become wrapped in her character(however ditsy she may have been.)
Posted by !Cinemafan!
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May 7, 2007 7:47 PM
I thought that Spider-Man 3 was a good film. the best film of the trilogy. Everyone should go see it. The visual effects are amazing. I give it a perfect 10!! Can't wait for it on DVD
Posted by Fabi
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May 7, 2007 8:55 PM
People that are trying to defend this movie should be truly ashamed of themselves.
I truly enjoyed the first two movies - because of the tight control that Raimi kept in the story/editing departments and some very human (for comic book stories) portrayals from all the main characters. In essence, the movies balanced their action and their drama very well.
As much as I hate to admit it, Raimi completely dropped the ball with S3. The inconsistencies are baffling - MJ is whining because she hasn't made...yest she has been in two major Broadway shows and was a face model for a major perfume company too - lets not forget this was right out of high school also. That's quite a disappointment. The Sandman scene looks great, but this must be one of those times when science doesn't have to mean anything - demolecularizing sand? And why can SM control all the sand, and why would bullets hurt him? How did Harry become an tech engineering genius, a master painter, a chef and a world class glider pilot in the span of about a year? The bomb blows up Harry's face but it leaves his hair intact? and the BUTLER...my god...the Butler and Jar Jar can battle it out for most unnecessary character in a movie ever. The club scene is without a doubt awful. Anytime MJ opens her mouth it pretty much is awful.
This was an awful movie. Time to let someone else take the reigns. This film actually made me look forward to FF2 and you can imagine what that would take.
Posted by JohnnyCanuck
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May 7, 2007 9:52 PM
I had high hopes for this movie, based on the OUTSTANDING quality of the previous two films in the series, but this is the first one to have felt like a "Sam Raimi" type of movie. The film had great elements of action and drama but also had the almost slap stick humor of "ARMY OF DARKNESS" or "Xena: Warrior Princess".
While there was a lot of buzz about Sandman and especially Venom, I found that the villian I had the least amout of faith in, "New Goblin" Harry, contributed the most to the story, and presented the best over-all fight sequeces. The only thing that I would have like to have seen was a more classic look for Goblin, but the "New" look, worked better than I had anticipated.
And while Venom looked cool, Topher seemed to still being playing 'Eric Foreman'? What's up with that?
Overall there just too much going on. This seemed like a 5 act play, where 3 would suffice.
Now I'm not going to spoil it by telling you what happens, but I think that the team behind this should have spent a little more time in script revisions and editing.
It's hard not to enjoy the movie with all the action going on, but at the same time, I'll be glad when the DVD arrives and I can skip certain scenes.
Well that's my opinion, take it or leave it.
Posted by Wanderer
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May 7, 2007 10:20 PM
They shouldnt of killed off venom, hes my favorite villan hes been since i was a little kid, i was dissapointed when they did that, but oh well , who knows he might of been able to get away anyways, other than that it was a very good movie i enjoyed it had a good time, but my question is there were so many villans in this one, what villans are left to use in the next spiderman??
Posted by LIL RoN
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May 7, 2007 11:01 PM
Moral of Spiderman 3: Turn Emo and your world will fall before your eyes.
I can't believe how terrible this film was. The camp factor was off the scale, not to mention some of the worst dialogue and plot lines in any superhero-themed movie to date.
Overrated and so utterly disappointing, what were you thinking Sam. The only shining star in the film: Bruce Campbell.
4 out of 10, for the sandman fx and the joy I felt in my heart as the end credits started to roll.
Posted by P3Animal
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May 8, 2007 1:12 AM
Spider-man 3 was alittle less of what I wanted from such a big franhise as spider-man. It wasn't a bad movie at all, it had a great storylines but its the 3rd film now, everybody knows peter very well, we need more spider-man action, their should of been more action and less chating. I feel Sandman storyline was understandable; its great how they added him into the mix of uncle ben death it made the story worth paying mind too. Second well, The Green Goblin Jr wasn't a problem because he was a charater builded since day one, I'm alittle mad they killed him off after they became friends again but whatever his point was proven. Now venom the reason everybody stood online for a ticket, The reason box offices records were broken, the reason there isn't a second guess of another film. I feel they worried so much about everybody else that they forgot about the main villan, we need a bigger longer fight againt spidy and venom (it reminded me of daredevil and kingpin a 40 second fight, a big build-up for that battle for nothing), we didn't get much from vemon, we got more brock then the man himself. I feel they shouldn't of kill him off and sam should bring him back as the king of the chess game in the fouth film with shocker and rhino as pons like sandman was in the 3rd (I think we should save the lizard for the fifth film when peter is in his first years after college cause if you paid mind to the film he's a jr in the 3rd movie and it all make scencs peter finish college and tries to help an old friend that becomes a monster "The Lizard") I think they should end spidy 4 like spidy 2 wit a new villain (The Lizard) Tranformed or becoming tranformed like G.G.J.R., and we should have vemon stocking peter thought-out the whole film. Just have this in mind Film Makers more action, we know what we need to know about peter. Now show us what spider-man can do, think about it like this tobey doesn't want to do anymore spiderman films perfect save him for parts needed and have stunt-man do all the action and if you have alot of action and less chating the less work for tobey and he will do more films promise.
Posted by KAY
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May 8, 2007 1:46 AM
The first thing that i said after seeing the movie was, "I'm confused". I had mixed feelings about spiderman 3. On one hand, the movie plays with your emotions enter the love drama between Parker and Watson. On the other hand, there was 2 much going on in the movie 2 help establish a set storyline. The visuals were awesome, the drama was awesome, but the action was sub-par. I think that they should have had 15-20 minutes of the actual venom, not venom with eddie brock's head. I hope they come up with some crazy story about how venom's symbiote survives and dedicates the spiderman 4 movie to him. all in all, i give the movie a 7.5/10
Posted by vanilashaker10
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May 8, 2007 2:06 AM
Warning!! Spoilers ahead:
I am not sure what I think about SM3. It's a great film just because of the $ spent and the exciting plot. It's definitely a better looking film than Disturbia, Meet the Robinsons, or some other garbage film that should be viewed on DVD or TNT on the weekends.
But in the Spiderman 1,2, and 3 universe, I don't think it stacked up too well. First off, I saw so many previews and leaked footage of the movie that I basically knew what the story was going to be ahead of time. Second, SM3 did exactly what I was afraid it was going to do. It pulled a Batman where they try to incorporate too many themes and characters in a superhero movie. The golden rule is to keep it simple. This is a case where less is better. Third, why didn't Raimi try to incorporate some of the real concepts of Spiderman. Spiderman makes web cartridges, he doesn't have natural webbing coming from his wrists. The alien symbiote doesn't fall from the sky in a meteor--- John Jameson, who was in the second film, brings it back on his spaceship.
Why didn't Peter's spidey sense go off before Harry came flying in to beat him up. In fact, we didn't see Peter's spidey sense at all in the third film. The Sandman wants to heal his sick mother, not daughter.
But the biggest problem that I had with the film was the idea that Harry was willing to give his life for Peter after all that was done to him. I don't believe it for a minute.
Venom's character was alright, but really underused. He is one of the best villains in all of sci-fi--Have some respect and use him wisely.
I didn't feel I was satified with SM3, I needed a more solid plot.
I hope 4,5,and 6 go in a different direction.
Posted by jzaik
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May 8, 2007 4:05 AM
Warning!! Spoilers ahead:
I am not sure what I think about SM3. It's a great film just because of the $ spent and the exciting plot. It's definitely a better looking film than Disturbia, Meet the Robinsons, or some other garbage film that should be viewed on DVD or TNT on the weekends.
But in the Spiderman 1,2, and 3 universe, I don't think it stacked up too well. First off, I saw so many previews and leaked footage of the movie that I basically knew what the story was going to be ahead of time. Second, SM3 did exactly what I was afraid it was going to do. It pulled a Batman where they try to incorporate too many themes and characters in a superhero movie. The golden rule is to keep it simple. This is a case where less is better. Third, why didn't Raimi try to incorporate some of the real concepts of Spiderman. Spiderman makes web cartridges, he doesn't have natural webbing coming from his wrists. The alien symbiote doesn't fall from the sky in a meteor--- John Jameson, who was in the second film, brings it back on his spaceship.
Why didn't Peter's spidey sense go off before Harry came flying in to beat him up. In fact, we didn't see Peter's spidey sense at all in the third film. The Sandman wants to heal his sick mother, not daughter.
But the biggest problem that I had with the film was the idea that Harry was willing to give his life for Peter after all that was done to him. I don't believe it for a minute.
Venom's character was alright, but really underused. He is one of the best villains in all of sci-fi--Have some respect and use him wisely.
I didn't feel I was satified with SM3, I needed a more solid plot.
I hope 4,5,and 6 go in a different direction.
Posted by jzaik
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May 8, 2007 4:39 AM
i liked the movie SM3 but i think i more like SM2 cause SM2 had more action.
i think that in SM3 they should have made more action with Spiderman or end the movie with Venom's creation for SM4 cause i remember venom from the comic and they had long fights not a 15min or 20min at the end.
Now i think that in th fourth movie venom will play cause don't think he died and it would be nice to have Venom+Carnage in SM4.
i have heared that there will be 6 spiderman movies, well i hope that in the last one it will be Lizzard and maybe in SM5 put Mysterio or socer, rino dunno some1.
i just wanna see venom+carnage in SM4 and lizard in the last one dunno which one will be
i give SM3 a 8/10,cause it was needed more action
Posted by nontin
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May 8, 2007 5:44 AM
This movie was terriable! It was a waste of money seeing it. The movie had a few parts that were funny and entertaining. Sandman was great, but they should have left Venom out for another movie. I was very disapointed.
Posted by Batz
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May 8, 2007 7:58 AM
Dear Sam, what happened to you ?
Seriously, too many bad guys equal a bad film (remember Batman 3 and 4). Science was the main problem of the two first one and now you Sandman is less important than Venom. Should have keep Venom for a fourth film.
At the end, no answer about the Sandman's daughter, Harry's becoming good (very bad idea) and more than that, the last scene seems to be added after the tests.
Where is the interesting relationship between Peter and MJ ? She was a model and she's now singing.
So you want it darker ? Do it darker ! Harry is bad, so go on !
And then, Sam, as you're a producer and not a good one don't try to make the people working for you do the same kind of film than you !!! (I remember how bad were "Boogeyman" and "the messengers") Please leave David Slade keeping good job !
Posted by MagicTanuki
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May 8, 2007 10:40 AM
I agree with what someone said before, it's a COMIC BOOK movie. People need to stop taking it so seriously, and lay off the "Spider-Man went emo" crap. I think most people would get emotional if you were in a situation like Peter Parker's. But besides that, I thought the movie was very well done. It may not have had as many action scenes as the previous Spider-Man movies, but it was still well done. I liked it the best of the three, even though I love the first two as well. The only things that could have been improved were some of the cheesy scenes, like when Mary Jane broke up with Peter. I'll admit, that was cheesy. I also think Venom should have been in the movie more, or at least saved him for another one. If they do indeed make another Spider-Man, I hope they have Carnage as the villain. That'd be amazing.
P.S. The S-M 3 game for Playstation 2 is fun, too.
Posted by Chris138
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May 8, 2007 1:41 PM
As a Spider-man fan who use to read the comics and watch the T.V series I have to say I was dissapointed. I thought the movie seemed very rushed. I thought the writting was horrible. The symbiote story is suppose to be a big deal, however it seemed second rate and boring.
I really don't think Sam Raimi and those other guys really cared about the story. They knew that fans wanted to see another spider-man and would come out to see one no matter what. At the end of the day it's all about money. They don't give a crap about what the real spider-man fans want and could care less how much they butcher their characters and storylines.
Spider-man 1 was better then the other ones. They should have stopped there.
Posted by Vboy
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May 8, 2007 6:35 PM
Overall I really enjoyed this film. I don't mind the finger pointing so much but they definitely could have gotten the same effect with just 2 finger points and not 20! Venom was done well and he better not be dead cause that would just suck. I liked the way he looked and the way he fought and the dark webbing I think is an improvement on the TV show. Sandman was done well and I liked the Peter/Harry dynamic. I didn't care for Topher Grace as one of my all-time favorite comic book villains when I heard he would be cast but I must say, he did a good job at being evil. He was convincing, even if he was a scrawny Eddie Brock. I would love to see Spideys 4,5, and 6 involve Venom again with Carnage, just as insane as he was in the animated series. Just remember, we never saw a body when Peter threw the bomb at the symbiote and there is a small part of the symbiote still at Dr Conner’s lab. In Spiderman 3 the symbiote is kind of glazed over. It crashes to earth with a meteor and attaches to the back of Peter’s “scooter thing.” The characters never talk about where it came from and what it is is glazed over in Doc Conner’s lab. Maybe in the next one some backstory about the symbiote could be revealed?
Posted by LUFlames29
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May 9, 2007 1:00 AM
for me it just felt flat .. i did not feel anything really
but i still think it was good (could have been better of course)
it was to much 3 bad guys in one movie .. i dont think so.
could have taken away sandman and just focus on Venom and
hobgoblin (harry) and a little less on M J
AND completly taken away the dancing scen ...
Posted by berkett
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May 9, 2007 4:30 AM
Venom encounter was too short. plot was doing fine but not until the last part. it seemed that Sam got tired during the end of the movie which made him decide to defeat Venom(one of the hardest villain) quickly. CG and other visual effects were amazing. saw a few "first on screen" scenes such as the detailed Sandman formation. Venom was not bad itself. nicely done. Hope the 4th sequel would find a way to cover the 3rd's mistakes.
Posted by exl168
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May 9, 2007 4:58 AM
I very much liked the film. I only had a few problems with it overall. I will buy the DVD when it comes out. I don't buy a movie if it scored less than 6 on my awesome-ometer!! I give it an 8 out of 10. Sandman and New Goblin were downright awesome. The visual effects on both were really good too.
I was very impressed with everyones acting, especially James Franco, The guy that played Sandman and Tobey McGuire. The guy that played Eddie Brock did really good as far as the human version.
The Venom version was baaaad. Why use his human voice when he is venom? Sometimes Venom almost looks claymation in the closeups and sometimes elsewhere. Too unreal with all of the other great visuals in the movie. Venom is barely in the film which if the visual effects on Venom were better and change his voice, I would have liked venom more and would like more screen time too. But that didn't happen.
I liked all of the fight scenes, especially the end battle. What's with the American Flag? I wonder if they changed the flag for the overseas versions?
The butler revealing to Harry about his dad's death was idiotic. I mean c'mon The butler??? Couldn't he have told him at the end of the 1st film and get it over with? That made no sense whatsoever and was a bit cheesy too.
Venom seemed to be more of a last minute add-on if you ask me. Considering most of the effects on him sucked. Black Spiderman was awesome. What the hell happened to venom??? The end with Eddie out of his suit and the black symbiote creature almost acting like it could live without a partner was cool. The effects were good on that.
The one thing I liked overall is how much time Sam Raimi spent on the Harry and Peter relationship. It made his death at the end seem really upsetting. Yes, one tear streamed down my face for that.
Posted by s76yu
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May 9, 2007 8:35 AM
First off the movie was not better than the first two. It has less pros than cons. The story did not add up to the comic book. I mean the black suit spiderman didn't hop around and dance. He was confused and thought dark thoughts. New goblin was terrible for the simple fact that they changed his whole character around. James Franco is a terrible actor and its sad that he got to be in spiderman. Sandman's character was good because it stuck with the basics and they didn't change him. Venom (a huge dissapointment) was hard to watch. I mean watching my favorite villian being played by Topher Grace. Topher Grace is a good actor, but he didn't fit the needs of the Venom character. Having a huge beast coming at you and talking like a high pitch dork, not executed at all. The movie was filled with useless footage. I mean it should have been called Mary Jane and Sipdermans relationship problems, because thats all I saw. The coolest part of the whole movie is Electro's cameo during the first part of the movie. Being such a huge fan of spiderman and waiting with so much excitement I was not happy at all about the third installment of the trilogy.
Posted by Alex Reaves
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May 9, 2007 5:06 PM
Ok... lets get things straight!
Spider-man 3 was pretty amazing i mean yea, it could have been better, but i it was better than the first two
This isn't the fault of Sam Raimi... He just wanted to give the audience wat he wanted. If we all would have kept our mouths shut none of it would be this way.
at first raimi wanted to just put sanman and harry in it as villians, but everyone wanted venom... he promised he would be in the fourth but that didnt happen because the audience wanted it NOW...
so i mean that was the only let down for me was venom because there wasnt enough of him. besides that the movie was pretty great.
ok i'll admit theree was a couple of un needed scnes but their there to show peters dark side.
you need to see it again. lol
Signed:
Giuseppe (joe)
Posted by Giuseppe-Joe
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May 9, 2007 8:45 PM
One line.........
Did Spider-Man lose his spider sense in this movie? Not once did I see the effect of spider sense.That's like having a peanut butter sandwich without the pb =(
But over all not a bad movie, hope the next 3 Riami has signed on for will bring life back to the spider!
Posted by tazzcom
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May 10, 2007 12:05 PM
WOW .. So many posts. Didn't get to read them all. Not sure if this was posted, so here goes. I liked Kirsten Dunst as MJ, until I saw Bryce Dallas Howard in this movie. She was BORN to play MJ. Kirsten would have made such a better Gwen Stacy. Don't get me wrong, she did great in the first 2, but wow, seeing BDH in this movie really was amazing. When I first saw her in this movie I thought "thats MJ" ... I'd love to see her play MJ in future films.
Rest of the movie already said here. Too much and not enough depth. Loved the Sandman character, but it should have been the 4th film. This should have focused on Harry/Goblin, Peter/MJ, and Venom. That would have been perfect.
Posted by LilKing
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May 16, 2007 11:35 PM
Once again, I won't disagree with 99% when I say that this is a perfect example of when more becomes too much. Why did it need 3 villains besides the actual challenges that Peter Parker is facing within himself? The effects are amazing but a movie cannot be carried by its visuals alone. It needed more character development between Mary Jane and Peter. It did do a good job at wrapping up the trilogy with all lose ends tied up, especially between Peter and Harry. However, with Sandman dying and coming back about 20 times during the film, and the other side stories going on, this is a major let down compared to the first 2 films, which have already gone down in history as being amongst the 2 best superhero films of all time. Sam Raimi should really consider making the 3rd one again, if only that could happen.
Posted by Jamal Essayah
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June 9, 2007 7:22 PM
I was disappointed with SM3 for the reasons others have already stated, but I will add the following:
1. Some have said this is just a comic book movie, don’t take it so seriously. To the contrary, SM1 & SM2 were comic book movies. SM3 was an overly serious & overly dramatic love/friendship character study which just happened to contain comic book characters in it. This is why fans like myself are so unhappy about SM3. Rami & co deviated from a winning formula & tried to fix something that wasn’t broken. They believed that since they had a great story [their view] & script & “drama”, that this alone would carry the film, & they gave most of the action & plot & villans secondary consideration. In SM1 & SM2 the action & plot was given equal consideration. To prove my point, Check out the interviews for Arad, Rami, & Grace on the SHH website.
2. Arad said they went with The Thing as a man-in-a-suit instead of CGI, because they learned from the Hulk movie that making Hulk too big made him hard to relate to it. He was right then, but why in SM3 after going to so much effort to make Sandman a real person, did they turn him into a giant faceless sand monster & thereby take all the humanity out of him? I was waiting for Godzilla & Ultraman to appear!!
3. The Butler scene: All they had to do to was have Harry and/or the butler convey that they had discussed Goblin’s self-inflicted wound theory long before, that Harry never believed it, & then have the butler tell Harry that he now had to make a choice, believe his father or Peter. They way the scene was done made it appear that the butler sat on this information while harry turned into an obsessive drunk.
4. Having Peter ask Harry for help to fight Sandman & Venom was very weak. Spiderman should have had a fire in his belly going into the finale & not have asked for help. The makers of this film made Peter/Spiderman look weak & overly vulnerable in the finale. Let Harry decide to help Peter on his own.
5. False advertising: We were sold Sandman, the black suit, & Venom, but instead received The Harry Osborne story. As a consequence, Arad didn’t do the fans any favors when he told Rami to put Venom in SM3. This decision shortchanged both Sandman & Venom. Harry’s story & character, although important, should’ve been reduced, or Venom should’ve been saved for SM4.
6. Read the interviews by Rami, Arad, & Topher Grace, & you’ll see why SM3 failed: to much emphasis & reliance on “story” & Peter/MJ/Harry character development, & secondary consideration on FX & the quality of the action scenes.
7. Wishful thinking: maybe Venom’s limited use in the film, the music-video-style edits of him in costume, & they way he kept disappearing during the fight finale, were done intentionally to whet out appetite for a full treatment of Venom in SM4.
8. How do we disappointed fans make out voice heard to those who will make SM4?
Posted by sasesq
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June 15, 2007 8:12 AM